The WIMBEWAI(N)F Club - Only a few more to find!

[BuckyAndCocktails]

New thread girlies....running out of credit on the stupid hotel internet connection...so can't say anything..duh..

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Morning ladies

PnM what a confusing weekend for you ((hugs)). Though I think (tentatively) it's a good sign that you're getting positives with extremely weak wee. MrsH is right, you need some serial blood tests and a scan to make sure things are developing as they should. I hope your doctor's can just do the EPU referral by phone for you today. PS very glad to hear of the retail therapy - you both need and deserve it xxx

MrsHappy so glad to hear you're off work so can now focus on yourself and your family and getting ready for the shift from 3 to 4 [excited emoticon]. You look super gorgeous in the pix on FB btw - you may feel massive but you look like a pregnancy goddess . Total normal to be scared about the birth and I really hope you get your VBAC.

Ei I'm that your period arrived but that it's such a textbook cycle. I think your weight loss must be helping .

Levi I think postponing sounds like a good plan - a few more weeks/months won't make a massive amount of difference re IVF and getting off to a good start on the course counts for a lot. I also think it's important to not put everything on hold, so to speak, for IVF. It's enough to be going on with without feeling like "real life" has disappeared.

Bucky I'm glad that your start date is so soon . If you have any Qs or random thoughts on the IVF then remember you've plenty of listeners on here who know what you're going throughj (as much as anyone else can anyway).

Ready [cainit tips her hat to you and your ability to organise and travel so many people ] Hope you had fun and the party was great.

JB glad to hear that your DD likes nursery but I hope going back to work hasn't been too much of a wrench!

Waves to anyone I've not mentioned by name. I'm pretty knackered after a very fun weekend, was great to see my family (though watching them all guzzle mojitos at the party did make me miss booze for the first time!). Managed to assemble the Ikea furniture too - we've managed to really increase our storage so I'm very about it as it means we can now start buying bits and bobs for the baby...

Hiya,

Get you Caitni, actually managing to put together some Ikea furniture! That would have sat in a box in our house for months, until eiher myself or DH stubbed a toe on it once to often and set to with the [included] screwdriver only to make a complete hash job of it in our anger. We have many lopsided billy bookshelves but they do the job!

Glad you had a good weekened thoguh and can now start to buy baby bits! Very exciting!

First day of mat leave MrsH? Hope you're finding some time to put your feet up to keep that bp down.

Just had a call back from the Dr, am now booked in for a scan tomorrow. Am under absolutely no illusions that this will have a happy ending - it truely is the end but my stupid body is not good at getting rid of the hormones. Not sure what the scan will achieve to be honest...

So its prob the dildocam for me tomorrow, yippee, just what you need when bleeding from your fanjo.

It does however, give me the perfect excuse to miss a huge meeting at work where I was set to get a right royal bollocking. Every cloud/silver lining and all that....

[higs] PnM You do make me smile.

I've got that Monday feeling today.... Might pop out and browse the shops.

Whatever you do Bucky, stay away from Aldo and Gap - they drag you in and steal your money....

, so it turns out do Paperchase, Fat Face and Accessorise.... Should have stayed at my desk! I do however have a nice new umbrella and a hoodie which is all warm and cosy ready for winter. And just in case the two million notebooks and pens I already have aren't enough, I thought I would buy another .LOL.

Well if your going to be all floppy and pathetic like I am today, you may as well be floppy and pathetic with nice stuff...Aldo here I come.

Hope the scan is not too bad today, Picknmix. I can't say I remember dildocam with much fondness...

Bucky why so floppy?

Caitni hurrah for the furniture and a good weekend. I am knackered and spending stupid amounts of time on the sofa (DD getting bored I think). And am foul tempered, last night having tried to brain my DH with a potato...

Hope you're doing OK, PnM - what a horrible amount of stress.

Hope you're less tired, Bucky and MrsH. Good to hear about the retail therapy - I'm totally skint as am on unpaid leave to do my course, so am participating by proxy in your experiences! And I must say I approve of your choices, Bucky...

Thanks for the support re. the decision, Caitni - I think it was the right one in that there was an awful lot that went on yesterday and, though the individual lecturers were good, I don't think I can rely on the institution to keep me filled in on things as it seemed a tad disorganized! Hope you're enjoying the furniture now it's built (such a nice feeling at that end of the process). I resurrected my falling-to-bits Billy bookcase (poorly constructed, obviously!) at the weekend and it looks fine with books in it!

Had been indulging in a bit of symptom spotting - imagined my breasts had grown, in particular (I'm sure you all wanted to know that) - but feel completely normal now, approaching AF in a few days, so think that's it for another month. Never mind, am ringing the surgery today for another pre-IVF appointment so hope springs eternal.

Anyway, it's really work time! Thinking of you all, especially PnM x

How are you going, Picknmix? Levi symptom-spotting is what this thread was for before we all became cynical and realised there was usually no point! Anyway, I enjoy a good discussion of symptoms (the grosser the better) as much as anyone so feel free to (over)share!

Poor DD has spent today largely on the sofa. It was raining and I am tired. At one point I sat her in front of cbeebies and had a snooze. I am a terrible mother... I just wish this baby would come out now so that I could get back to normal energy levels soon. Let's hope I don't engage in any further vegetable-related domestic violence this evening...

Hope the rest of you are well.

Morning,

Symptom spotting is what we [used] to do best Levi so carry on - we'll speculate with you! Hope they surgery gave you a more suitable appt time?

Am liking the sound of the hoodie Bucky - I appear to be living in them at the moment, not enjoying the winteriness (is that a word!?).

I'm sure DD is enjoying herself MrsH, that's what cbeebies is for isn't it? To give parents a break!

I was quite surprised as the fertility nurse came along to my scan - she must do both EPAU and fertility. She was the same nurse who dealt with me during my last miscarriage and is genuinely lovely so was a relief to see her.

The dildocam showed that the miscarriage was complete - which is good as no repeat appts needed. They put me at 6 weeks, same as last time.

Spent yesterday feeling sorry for ourselves and then made the mistake of watching 'Marley and Me'.... Haven't ever seen my husband cry so much, think it just triggered something in him. I feel so sad and useless that I can't give my husband the one thing he desperately wants in life.

The one good thing to come of this is that the fertility nurse checked up where I am on the IUI list and it seems I'm at the top. So we've been invited to a meeting next thurs to discuss options. Although she did say she would understand if we weren't ready for it, that she could have a one on one meeting in a few weeks if we wanted.

Sorry to waffle on here, I just don't get a huge amount of support in RL from friends - they're great but don't really understand. This is cathartic writing it all down....

Oh PnM I am sorry that it has not been good news again. But then at least the miscarriage is complete, so you can move on and try again if that is what you want to do. And your poor DH, too. My husband never seemed all that bothered when I had all that trouble last year, but then I guess in the circs he was probably just glad I was ok. Sometimes I think maybe they just don't show it or are able to forget most of the time...

I don't know if your fertility clinic offers counselling, but if they do it might be worth looking into? I just think sometimes it is good to have as many outlets as you can - and they might have some practical tips to help you both deal with this awful shitty run of luck you've been having.

Hugs to both of you.

Oh PnM I'm so so sorry . I'm glad (glad is the wrong word ) that the lovely nurse was with you, a small compensation. I also sobbed through bits of Marley & Me - miscarriage just doesn't get shown/talked about. Hope it was cathartic. Massive (((higs))) to you.

About the IUI, I'd be tempted to go for it. It's obviously up to you, but if I were in your shoes I think I'd just want to go for it. I remember the CP I had last sept (obviously a lot earlier than your miscarriage) and all I wanted was some progress...and come and write/rant on here whenever you want. It's so hard to get RL support and we're here to listen and offer cyber support xxxx

. I'm not help to you at all PnM as I am more depressing than a depressed thing at the moment, but just know we all understand exactly how you are feeling. I've budged back over so you can come back on the bench (although I know that's the last place you want to be).

I'll message you on FB.

Higs. xx

Oh I'm sorry, PnM - can't imagine what you're going through. Although I've been quite down at times about no conception of any kind ever happening for us it doesn't compare at all to this kind of situation, which is so much harder. (as others have said). I have no idea and less experience than pretty much anyone else on this thread, so don't know whether getting on with the next step is good or bad but at least there are options and if you want the help it's there for you (although I'm sure you've probably waited long enough for it...).

I've been so busy, and commuting, the last few days so haven't even managed to get through to the surgery to make another appointment. Must make sure I do tomorrow, though it's really hard to get hold of the right person. I'm also stupidly holding out hope that I might be PG, for no good reason at all except for the odd twinge in the breasts (you did say I had free rein with the symptom spotting...) and in uterus (well, that general area - I'm so clueless it's probably just IBS!) and thinking they (breasts) might be bigger (which DH disputes - and he'd probably know... - so probably just me/wishful thinking). Certainly nothing that really suggests being up the duff. Anyway, AF due in two days so I'll soon stop this madness. Am luckily distracted most of the time by course starting and lots of work.

Sorry you're also feeling crappy, Bucky - it's a horrible time of year, on top of everything else. Must also be a weird limbo time before things get started. Hang in there.

Positive vibes to everyone, and some hot chocolate/ hearty stew/ mulled wine/ whatever-makes-the drawing-in-of-nights-even-slightly-appealing-for-you-in-particular xx

Hello everyone,

PnM I'm so sorry . It is good to know that you had a supportive nurse with you, I imagine that made things more bearable. It is a awful thing for any couple to go through but it sounds like your DH is letting his emotions out which can only be a good thing. Have you taken some time off work? MrsH's suggestion of having some counselling at the clinc is a good idea, it would help you decide whether to go ahead with the IUI right away or not.

Please do come here and vent your feelings. It is hard to discuss miscarriage in real life, people don't know what to say. On here, we might not know what to say either but we can provide a listening ear and try our best to offer support.

Bucky Sorry to hear you are feeling down. I did like your posts on your shopping trip. I always want a dog at this time of year, I love tramping through copper coloured woods with a hound by my side. I have to borrow my mums at the moment and it isn't the same!

MrsH I bet your DD LOVED watching Cbeebies, to her you are the best mother going for letting her watch TV! You'll be out pushing a pram before too long.

Caitni The buying stuff stage is fun! I spent many hours pouring over what to get. Are you going for shades of cream? You aren't finding out the sex are you?! I might have misremembered!

Levi I love a bit of symptom spotting . Things obviously feel a bit different from normal so you never know. What is the course you are starting? I agree with what the others said about postponing the app so you don't miss the start of the course. You just have to do what feels right.

DD was very good when I was away - DH on the other hand took the wrong bag to his mums, forgot to take her naptime dummy to nursery etc, it was all written down too!!! DD was so happy to see me when I got back though, it was lovely. Right, back to work...

hi ladies
PnM im so sorry this has happened i hope you are doing ok and i am around if you need a chat/shoulder to cry on xx message me on FB if you need to chat and i can send you my number if you want xxx {{{{{{{higs}}}}}}
bucky sorry to hear you are feeling down any particular reason or is it the pre-ivf sullens?? feel entirely free to vent etc as there are a fair few who have the knowledge here as you know xx(not me yet obv but im here to listen and support as always xx) hope you are feeling better soon
levi its a well thought-of 'fact' that many women get their BFP as soon as IVF is seriously considered so dont rule anything out good luck and i hope AF stays away
hi to everyone else
nowt new here except we are seriously considering the clomid option... its such a jump from last month when we were taking a break but who the F cares haha we will see though and il keep you posted on what we decide
xx ei xx

Nothing like what PnM is going through but did get AF today of course and feeling very blue. Have to socialize and see my ever-expectant-of-news-of-grandchildren parents this weekend too. Anyway will come back in a more positive mood soon -just a little cathartic MN howl... (Thanks wipes eyes and blows nose)

Levi I'm sorry your period has shown up. I hope you have a good time with your parents.

Ei clomid would be a change of direction for you! I really hope it turns out to be a wonder drug for you if you do decide to go down that route.

Jollybear That's lovely that the cub gave you a nice reception when you got back . I just used to melt when DD behaved like that (of course now that she is 3 going on 12 she is far too cool to act like she cares about her old mum)!

I hope you're managing to shake off the glums, Bucky. Surely a visit to Paperchase is the cure for all ills?

PnM how are you bearing up, poppet? Any more thoughts on IUI?

Caitni how's the bump? Are you feeling well and still liking the Whit?

I am a bit fed up now and rather horrified at the idea that I could have as much as 4 more weeks of this! Yesterday my BP appeared to have shot up (arg- shades of DD's birth) but the midwife came around today and confirmed it is back to a very respectable 115/68, so I will live! Now I just need to get this baby out before I become so utterly bad-tempered with DD that she leaves home...

Thanks, MrsH. Sorry about whinging - I know it's not that bad, it's just I was full of hope, for no good reason, this month. Hope you're having a tolerable weekend and aren't too fed up with this stage - it will all change pretty soon!

Hope you're ok, PnM and managing to forget about it all this weekend (if that's what you want to be doing).

Waves to JB, Caitni, Eis and everyone else!

Just climbed Snowdon, which was fun even though 90% of the walk was in cloud and drizzle. And going out to a nice pub near my parents' place with them, DH and friends tonight (and can drink - sounds trivial, but a small silver lining to not being PG!) so it's turning into a good weekend. Shall stop being maudlin immediately. Hope everyone else is having a bit of R&R this weekend.

You're entitled to complain, Levi. The day your period shows up is always the worst I reckon, all those hormones , cramps etc on top of the disappointment. Glad the weekend is going ok - and yes, you can cheer yourself up by drinking lots. I would love a glass of nice champagne right now but it plays havoc with my heartburn! So maybe you could have one for me?

Levi so sorry your period showed up . It's so gutting. And don't worry about complaining - I used to be so upset when my showed up (though I spot before my period so always had my meltdown a few days in advance of proper flow...and of course spent months trying not to obsessively google implantation bleeding think it was implantation bleeding). But good to hear the weekend is shaping up - well done on Snowdon! I stayed near it camping at easter but we never actually made it up

MrsH OK, I was actually laughing out loud at the thought of your DD leaving home because of a grumpy mummy . I bet she's loving having you around (and watching ceebeebees!). That must have been worrying about your BP but I'm glad it's behaving itself and is back down to a safe level. I really hope your baby girl shows up soon [fingers crossed emoticon]

Ei clomid would be an exciting option - keep us posted about whether you pursue it. Though hopefully your cycle will stay regular and you'll get a sticky bean soon xxx

PnM thinking of you and your DH and hope you're doing OK xxx

Bucky hope you're feeling a bit better (retail therapy is always A Good Thing) and that you're having a good weekend. Not long now til you start the IVF. Do you start downregging next weekend or is it the injections (can't remember ). I really didn't like the downregging (I had this sniffy drug that tasted rank)...

JB I was also giggling at your DH and I'm glad your DD was all smiles when she saw you again (must be so lovely ). You've remembered right, we're not finding out, so lots of shades of cream/yellow. I'm currently obsessing about cots...I think I'd like a bedside cot as that's about as close to co-sleeping as I could manage I think (I just don't think I could sleep at all with a newborn with me!).

Waves to Readyforno2 and MOB and GG (if you ever lurk xx). Went to an NCT nearly new sale this morning and picked up some bargains (gro bags for a couple of quid, a little bath seat thingy for two quid, a toy storage unit thing my DH fell for - he's obsessed with storage ).

Anyway, off to the cinema (exciting!) as after watching other people booze last Sat I really can't face the pub!

Caitni just a quickie to say could you have a quick look at this thread? I think I remember you doing lots of research into all of this gubbins a while ago and you might be able to help the OP.

Hope everyone is well. My pelvis is killing me so I would love courgette to get a wriggle on, bu it could be nearly 4 more weeks. Arg!!

Evening all,

Am hoping for an early arrival MrsH of little courgette to put you out of your pain - feel for you! Pleased to hear that your bp dropped back down again though, you just try and keep it that way!

Loving the bargain buying Caitni, glad to find another person with a storage obsessed husband! If its got doors or drawers my husband wants it - he loves to 'hidey' things (x between hide and tidy). Which film did you go to see? I went to see Fame last night - it was rubbish!!

Hi Levi, really sorry to hear about arrival of period. You're entitled to be as maudlin as you like for as long as you like! And nice work on climbing Snowdon! Very impressed - climbed it bout 100yrs ago when I was a teenager, not sure I could manage it now tho....

Did I see right on fb Ei? That you have a new job? If yes, thats fantastic - well done you! Have you started it yet? And yes, Clomid would def be a turn around but it sounds like you're feeling more positive? Taking Clomid wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. Just the odd mood swings and hot flushes.

Pleased to hear Jollycub welcomed you home so nicely JB thats very cute!

How are you doing Bucky? Treatment starts soon, how you feeling bout it all?

I'm feeling a lot more philosophical about everything at the moment. Think it was just that it took 3yrs to get a positive test so there was an awful lot of hope invested in that wee stick.

We've decided we will go to the meeting about IUI on thurs, just to understand what its all about. Not sure whether we'd ever go through with treatment though. Thats a decision too far for us at the moment.

Have also found out I'm off to China in a couple of weeks for work. Which makes the decision whether or not to have a month off ttc redundant as will prob be away for most of November anyway. Am a little scared of going though - anybody been before??

Hi to all not mentioned personally, am on phone and battery about to give up. Hope you're all ok xx

Morning ladies

PnM I think you're right about the IUI - you can go and find out but you don't have to make any decisions about anything just yet. That's exciting about China, but I'd also be quite nervous. I've never been there but everyone I know who has been (including a sister and one of my best friends) have really enjoyed it.

MrsH I posted on that thread, but I felt a bit bad as my understanding is that low sperm count is pretty untreatable so assisted conception is by far the best choice. Am sure she's hoping for more of the "we were told this but magically conceived anyway" type posts! I really hope courgette is getting ready to make an appearance. I know you went over with your DD, but I've heard that's common in first pregnancies but not as common in second pregnancies (certainly true in my own limited experiece of friends and family). Am sure by this stage you're getting sick of people giving you tips on how to bring on labour! I'll be checking the thread regularly for news from you

Big waves to everyone else

MrsH someone's asking after you here

Gahhhhhh, somebody give me a kick up the arse.

I've done precisely NO work today and can't seem to motivate myself at all.....