Clomid Attempts and Successes 2

[Clwc]

Hello all,

This is a thread for those who will be/are TTC with Clomid and those who have successfully conceived with Clomid.

Please join us if you are currently;

1. about to try Clomid,
2. on your nth cycle of Clomid,
3. have a Clomid success story that you would like to share with us, or
4. aren't taking Clomid anymore but enjoyed chatting to the girls on the old thread

Here is a link to the old thread that inspired this one.

Clwc

hi again everyone,

read the entire thread.. golly.. it's been really tough going for everyone..

Claire001: i'm especially sorry to read your story .. i think i may be headed the same direction as you.. i remember how it felt to be suddenly not pregnant 2 yrs ago and to have my stupid body not get up to speed.. having read your story and how i described things suddenly "improving" 3 days ago.. well, it's all abit deja vu really .. oh man..

good luck to everyone..

xxxxxxxxxxx

Hi Girls
I need advice. So I started clomid July 14th. I didn't wait for my period to start because I never get my periods. They are very random, and my Dr told me not to wait, just to start.
So I took the 5 pills 50mg. DH and I went to work for a week straight, and today July 28th AF arrived. Last night when DH and I were bding it was a bit painful, and now today here is AF in all her fury.
I can't get into my gyno until August 17th and really don't want to waste a month if I don't have to. So I'm wondering what you ladies would do if you were me......should I begin a second dose of clomid for the next 5 days. And if so what days of your period do you start taking it. (having never started the first round on my cycle I don't know what days to take it)Sorry for the novel, but I know you ladies have been through it ALL, and may be able to offer me some advice
hugs to all xoxoxox

Usually clomid is taken from days 2 to 6 of your cycle.

I guess you did not receive a diagnosis prior to taking this either. This is poor practice on their part. You need a diagnosis first and foremost as to why your periods are irregular and or non existant. Common causes for this btw are PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrome) or thyroid imbalances. You should have been ideally evaluated properly to see if either were present before starting the first clomid course.

Also your man should be tested as a matter of course now to see if there are also male factor problems.

Clomid is quite powerful stuff and it is not always suitable for all with ovulation problems to take. Also you should be monitored whilst on it as you will have no way of knowing whether its working or not otherwise.

I would try and talk to the gynae subfertility unit first off before taking the second lot of clomid.

If intercourse happens to be consistently painful (rather than a one off occurence) do mention this to the gynae as well as this can be indicative of endometriosis being present.

Hi fifi08

Have you had a misscarriage in the past then? Are you taking clomid now? X

hi claire001

had a m/c in Nov 2007.. golly that really is a long time ago now that i see it written down.. it was pretty severe and ended up in hospital as it was a natural m/c and it got kind of out of control while trying to deal with it at home .. didn't suspect a thing until i actually started to bleed.. day before my 1st scan.. was so upset but after a few months we started to try again, 2 years later nothing, not another m/c not even a "chemical pregnancy" .. on clomid now at my own request as dp and i diagnosed with "unexplained infertility".. got faint but coloured line within 1 minute on test last night and repeated it this morning hoping it would be stronger.. it wasn't.. will test again tomorrow.. but i'm not confident.. there are so many variables.. with the clomid i've no idea what it's done to my cycle or me.. any ideas? how did it affect you?

Thanks for the advice AttilaTheMeerkat.
I've had all the bloodwork my gyno could give, and hubby had sperm tested (he's fine) then I had both and ultrasound and dye test to check my fallopian tubes, all was fine, so he told me it was unexplained infertility. So I'm on clomid without much direction. Asuuming I ovulated, but seem to have done so much too soon. I think I will take your sound advice and wait to see him before I take clomid agin.
babydust to all

Hi Fifi08

Is this your first month on clomid? Iv found clomid ok really, The first 2 months i got quite down and unhappy while taking it but the last 3 times have been fine, Just get lots of hot flushes, XX

hi
just spoke with gyno.he was nice enough to call me at home. Going back on the 2nd round of clomid on day 5 of my cycle. Here we go again. I didn't have too many side effects on the first round, the only to note was HOT FLASHES. Oh dear, now I understand what my Mom is going through.LOL.
Any of you girls have any luck with OPK's on clomid??Ive heard mixed messages. Some say they're great others have said the clmid can cause it be inaccurate???

yup it's my first month.. physically at first i felt nothing(50mg day 2-6) and then around day 9 could feel my insides beginning to swell and it got a bit uncomfortable.. by day 11 it was quite uncomfortable.. i was scanned 3 times in the lead up to them deciding whether it was ok to proceed i.e. not too many follicles and i was given the go ahead on day 12 with 1 lead and two follow up follicles.. they gave me a hcg injection which triggers ovulation.. had major ov pains the next day and some "not fresh" spotting 2 days later which i assume was from the explosions in my ovary! for the next 7 days i was demented!! swollen aching raving my digestion was shot (i have never felt so unladylike!!) it felt like it was building and building and then on sat i was in the horrors.. all i can describe it like was it was as if i was in absolute agony but there was no actual pain.. like all my nerves were screaming but for no reason, then sunday i woke up... fine.. by the end of the day my tum was less swollen and by monday my belt was back to the usual notch and .. well here i am now.. all day today there have been achey cramps and i'd have sold my soul for a bar of chocolate.. pms symptoms or what! i know the hcg inj can hang around for 8-10 days but i should be clear of that.. either the clomid is messing with the second part of my cycle (or the hcg) and i'm testing too early or i was briefly, like for a few days, "pregnant" and now i'm not and the HPT is picking up the tail end of that.. i shouldn't be asking you lots of Q's and raking all that's happened to you up again Claire001.. i'm so sorry.. it helped me a lot after my m/c to read lots of posts and talk to lots of online people but after a while i read so many sad stories and realised how many many people are out there suffering literally aching to the point of insanity that i had to stop cause i was just absorbing all the sadness..

wishinandhopin seems like we're in the same boat, "unexplained, on clomid" the girls are right get as much info and be as closely monitored as possible, you only have a few goes with the clomid so make each one count..

will do another test in the morning.. got a digital one so no is it or isn't it there this time..

good luck fifi will keep fingers crossed for you

Hey *claire sounds like you had a nice relaxing holiday, when you due to test?

clwc not long till friday, I'm next week wish it would blood hurry up lol

Hey wishin I left you a message on the other thread but think I left it for kiwikat got there too late though, you've already spoke to your cons. I don't use opks cos of the pcos gives a false reading.

Hows everyone else? xxx

wishinandhopin,

Unexplained infertility is infact no diangosis at all; it simply means that they have failed to find out what is wrong. Sometimes is is a "diagnosis" given when both parties have not been adequately investigated.

I am wondering why he has put you on clomid; I would be looking now to get a second opinion.

Will post up a list of tests that are often missed out.

The most common tests that tend to be omitted are:-

Adequate x-rays of the uterus which may show abnormalities not otherwise seen at laparoscopy.

Hysteroscopy - telescope inspection of the inside of the uterus which may occasionally show abnormalities not seen otherwise

Repeated sperm counts over several weeks and months to make sure there is no subtle abnormality

Testing the sperm in special media such as swim up testsvelocity testing. However, when they are done, they often uncover a hidden cause for the suppposed unexplained problem

Thorough hormone tests to detect abnormalities of male hormone or early falls in progesterone

Scanning of the ovaries to see if follicles really are developing and there are no sign of polycystic ovaries.

morning everyone..

dig test positive.. dear Lord, the clomid may have actually worked..

Atilla, you surely are the definition of an expert patient.. i agree completely with what you say about unexplained infertility.. in my experience with the NHS unless you go about gaining not just the same but MORE info than the "professionals" you encounter you will be lost in the system.. for me it took me a good six months to realise that the clinic i initially attended was in no way going to treat our case any differently to anyone else not that i want "SPECIAL TREATMENT" i just mean they seem to have a schedule set out where they dictate what happens next and when and it doesn't matter if you can prove you can skip a step because it's not relevant to your case it falls on deaf ears, you just join the conveyor belt and that's that.. i arrived at the clinic with all my bloodtests done through my GP i thought it would save time, but was asked to repeat them ALL!!!! so that they could be on their computer system as they had no way of inputting tests done externally to their hospital!!! i asked for clomid for over a year and was declined, told to keep trying, waited for appointments that were 6-7 months apart for updates, saw a different person every time who read my notes for the first time once the consultation had begun, wasting my time by making simple mistakes and not even listening to what i was saying half the time.. and at one point i had actually slipped off their list and if i hadn't rung up to enquire what was the status of my case i'd still be waiting! and no apology! and after an 8 month wait (and that was the last time i attended that clinic)the day i attended the clinic they had to pull in novice staff to cope with a larger than usual clinic and an emergency that had kept the more experienced staff in theatre.. fair enough these things happen but the doctor who saw me was younger than me her hands shook and couldn't read the consultants handwriting on the report he had made when he had reviewed our case as to what the next step should be.. she then suggested i take metformin first as it worked the same way as clomid.. as nicely as possible i explained the difference to her while trying to hide my horror and shock and she quickly left the room to "ask some one else's opinion" .. i mean how can you have confidence in a system like that? it was the most disheartening and frustrating experience of my life.. in the end we felt we had no other choice but to go to a private clinic and the sad facts of it all is when you have a credit card (although with not much credit!)you ask for whatever you want and get it straight away..

and finally all this might, just might, be over.. or beginning ..fingers crossed

xxxxx

Hi Everyone,

I am new to this board, i have starting clomid at 50mg from day 2 - 6. I am currently on day 12 and had a scan this morning, no signs of ovulation. Having a progesterone test on day 21. has anybody been in this siuation and actually ovulated?

If it does not work this month, i have to up the dose to 100mg. Has anybody had any successes with clomid?

Been trying for a baby for a year and miscarried last october. Lots of friends are having babies. I just want to be pregnant

Hey jlo Welcome to the thread. I didnt get scanned but did have cd 21 bloods and then bloods on cd 28 and cd35 so I could start provera again , think there is still a chance you may ovulate. What you been diagnosed with? I have pcos and am waiting to get an echovist scan to ensure no tube blockages.

How is everyone today? xx

Hi stac24

I have pcos, diagnosed when i was 16. Scan showed both ovaries, nurse had struggle to find them but she said she couldnt see any folicles. Having bloods on day 21 just to see progesterone levels. I am hoping i still ovulate but not sure. The specialist has also given me tablets to induce period if it doesnt happen after day 28.

Its a horrible waiting games isnt it!feeling a bit fed up with the whole thing

Hi, im new to this thread and to mumsnet and thought I should join up and join in because ttc is driving me insane!

been ttc for 12mth - started using OPK and realised I wasnt ovluating, doc diagnosed PCOS in one ovary and am now on clomid and on day 18 of first mth. Even though some of you say OPK not recommended or accurate for people with PCOS and on clomid but OPK tells me today is the day so will be bding tonight for sure.

ttc takes over your world doesnt it? Its a wonder I havent been given the sack for all the internet time i spend on the matter! How can you relax and let it happen when its all you think about, counting days, peeing on sticks, getting scans etc so on and so forth!

Haylp!!!

hey JLO26

You are up to exactly the same point as me, I've been trying for a baby for nearly 2 years and then went through infertility and found out I had PCOS, i have done 2 months on clomid and haven't ovulated i am having bloods taken on 5 Aug which is day 21 to see progesterone levels, so i do know exactly how your feeling i feel pretty low about it too but i've read so many success stories from clomid and hopefully it will work for us too

take care let me know how u get on

Jen x

Hello all,

Welcome to the new ladies

Attila, if you come on here... I have an appt with my cons on Friday (31st). I have PCOS. The GP prescribed me Clomid, which I took for 2 cycles in early April and early May. She shouldn't have prescribed it (I was told) and didn't monitor me, so I stopped taking it. I think Clomid did mess up my periods. I had a lot of spotting between them. I am currently on my 33rd day of light bleeding. The nurse at my GP's surgery (different GP now) found only thrush. Do you have any idea what I should ask the cons when I see her? Could it simply be PCOS-related? Or might it be something more sinister? The only pain I have is occasional strong ovulation type twinges.

Clwc

clwc

First and foremost, good luck with your appt on Friday ((sending good luck vibes your way)).

I've had thrush as well but it never gave me any problems with bleeding.

Any bleeding between periods should be investigated further to ascertain the cause. Its often not serious, it could be cervical erosion for instance which can be treated. Hopefully they will be able to tell you the exact cause.

I would certainly mention this to the cons along with the frequency of pain experienced. Continuity of care is vitally important, you should ideally be seeing the same person each visit and be seen on a regular basis.

(I will be on holiday from tomorrow for a couple of weeks).

Attila x

Hello, just thought I would pop in with a success story, and good luck to all of you who are still trying. I was quite pessimistic about my chances, felt in many ways I was just wasting time (I'm 37 so I wanted to get a move on).

After coming off the pill I didn't have a period, then just one, then nothing, so after 7 months was referred to consultant (I knew PCOS was in my family so pushed to get an early referral and my GP v. understanding).

provera to get started, and then 50mg of Clomid, going up to 100mg after 6 months or so. No terrible side effects except feeling emotional / moody.

All the other tests came through OK, but while checking my tubes they noticed a polyp had developed in my womb. It hadn't been there 3 months earlier, could have been a side effect of the Clomid though consultant said that this was quite rare. Also, the polyp could have been acting like a coil and stopping conception. Anyway, had a small op to take it out (spinal anesthetic, one night in, about a week off work), and conceived next cycle round. Now 13 weeks preggers.

Should mention I also had 2 months of weekly acupuncture treatment before I conceived, I find it difficult to know how this might or might not have helped, but the acupuncturist was a specialist in fertility issues and did seem very knowledgeable. Can't say I found it a barrel of laughs though.

Hope that's encouraging. I only knew friends with PCOS who hadn't conceived on Clomid (though had eventually got pregnant) so it's good to have some positive stories.

Good luck to you all, it feels tough I know.

Thanks Attila,

I had come to the conclusion it would be something like cervical cysts, fibroids or polyps.

I had the same cons the first two times I went, and I imagine it'll be the same one this time.

Have a great holiday, wherever you're going. I hope it doesn't rain as much as it has been here, in South Wales!

Hi comeonbishbosh. Thanks for popping by to tell us your story

x x x

Hiya, not sure where to start really im 23 i have a 5yr old child been ttc for around 2yrs now not really putting alot of thought into it until around 7months ago when my consultant told me i needed to have a baby now or never due to my cancer cells so he referred me to a fertility spec all test for me an my husband came back ok other than i wasn't OV just started my first round of clomid 50mg on the 21st 2-6days haven't felt any side affects other than hot flushes im cd 11 now felt a few cramps hopefully they are related to OV pain i just dont old out much hope an they are only following me up with 21day bloods not.... everyone else around me is preg or just had a baby an its driving me mad

Hi kelly and sunshine welcome to the thread, know how you feel I was also only monitored with cd 21 bloods, clomid does work for lots of women as you see with comeonbisbosh's message so try to keep positive and if your fed up come on here and have a rant, thats what we are all here for.

clwc are you all organised for tomorrow? I see attila has gave you advice on what to find out, shes great! Defo let us know how you get on

Congratulations fifi please keep in touch on how you are

How are the rest of you ladies? xxx

hi well i have two year old twins after takeing two cycles of clomid boy and girl i was on 50mg. i am takeing clomid again so hope it works this time and good luck to you girls