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The Hut of Gl/Doom... Please don't ask about our reproductive plans as a smack round the head with TCOYF often offends

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OracleInaCoracle · 02/06/2009 09:05

new thread.

for those who are having problems getting pg

or staying pg

or are simply fed up of being told to relax and having to smile and say "you never know"

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Lulumama · 15/06/2009 10:58

sorry to intrude, but what is TCOYF?

Worzsel · 15/06/2009 11:01

Taking Charge Of Your Fertility by Toni Weschler..

It's big heavy book

Lulumama · 15/06/2009 11:05

thanks, now it makes perfect sense !!

rainbowdays · 15/06/2009 12:06

Hi all, I have been for my latest blood test, results sometime this afternoon hopefully. So will now take bets on what level it will be today!!!

Lissie - I had heard that clomid can be really cruel and extend your lp, hope it does not keep you in limbo much longer. Of course what I really hope is that you are preggers and this one (or more!) is a keeper for you. But can understand preparing yourself the the alternative.

Lulumama - never thought I would see you in the hut - hi!!!

shreksmissus · 15/06/2009 12:09

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DarrellRivers · 15/06/2009 12:16

I want to know which M+S adverts too
I'm normally pretty weepy but so far M+S doesn't make me weep , apart from perhaps the cupcake ones
and thanks to lulumama for clearing up the TCOYF acronym, I thought it would eventually come to me
Well, a lovely morning all round

I am CD27, and too afraid to test, as if it is negative, then all my hopes will be dashed as this is getting to be the last few cycles of trying.
No symptoms of anything
Will continue in hope which I am not meant to be feeling as it is most likely to not happen as usual

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OracleInaCoracle · 15/06/2009 12:49

shreks, its totally understandable, i feel that way too. i have a points system that i use for pg women by which i measure just how happy i am for them. good news about the thing going, but bad about the clomid. however a soon as period comes i will be on second round of it. its not too bad, just made me v emotional.

m&s ads were the ones with twiggy. im sitting with dh sobbing "bbbb-hut they were just a puh-henny buh-buh-buhzaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr"

rainbow, hoping that your levels have dropped

darrell, is your period due tomorrow then?

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DarrellRivers · 15/06/2009 13:29

I reckon i ovulated CD 14-15 so period due maybe tomorrow, probably more likely wed/Thursday
I keep reading magazines at the supermarket with that Cheryl Cole blethering on about perhaps starting a family with Ashley and how she's worried she will become the size of a house

Wish that was all I had to worry about
And morning sickness, I just want to feel that crap again please please please

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OracleInaCoracle · 15/06/2009 13:32

you know, this sounds odd but i love ms. its reassuring.

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DarrellRivers · 15/06/2009 13:35

I know, everytime it rose to a peak I would think, 'the hormones are strong, the baby is growing'
Then if it settled down a bit, you get a bit panicky
I have to stop myself gatecrashing the ms threads to say, 'just be glad you're getting it, it means your levels are nice and high'

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OracleInaCoracle · 15/06/2009 13:41

lol, the last time i had ms i remember sitting with my head in the bowl, dh rubbing my back and whimpering "thank god, thank god, i still feel like shite, thank god" in between retches.

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shreksmissus · 15/06/2009 13:52

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OracleInaCoracle · 15/06/2009 14:04

me too shreks, my proudest moments were throwing up in the highstreet (right outside greggs, it was the smell) and in the kitchen at work!

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Thandeka · 15/06/2009 14:12

I'm a lurker to this thread and have to confess reading about Lissie crying at the M&S advert and then reading about how you all loved MS and how it was reassuring and I was getting really confused until I realised M&S and MS are two different things.

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OracleInaCoracle · 15/06/2009 14:17

pmsl thandeka.

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Thandeka · 15/06/2009 14:22

Well it was Shrek in particular saying about how she loved her MS stories about all the places she threw up in. Was starting to think there was some kind of an internet trend to go round the high street retailer and throw up and then write up the story on the net! I was sooo confused. It really did take about three read throughs before I worked it out.

rainbowdays · 15/06/2009 14:54

Nope I have to disagree with you all, I don't want morning sickness (thought I would spell it out for Thandeka!!!!) With two of my m/c's I have felt very sick, especially just before it started, so for me all it means is that my hormones are changing, but I can't tell if they are going up or down, so even now I have painfully sore boobs, and still getting constant nausea, at least at the moment I know the nausea is due to the levels dropping, rather than giving me false hope.

Shrek - good to hear your "thing" has gone!!! , not so happy to have to be going on clomid, hope you don't get too many horrible side effects from it.

Darrell - Can I wish morning sickness on you soon?

I am still sitting waiting for my blood test results, but a good mn friend of mine is in having her baby right now, so I hope for a good phone call soon, perhaps that will help me ignore the horrible one. Just to clarify the good news will be the safe arrival of her little girl.

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rainbowdays · 16/06/2009 10:16

My blood test showed hcg level down to 660 only. As you probrably know, it should halve in 48hours, it has not even halved in a week. This is going to take some time to resolve.

anniemac - love the idea of your dh banning you from diagnosises, absolutely right no more gloominess for you right!

Lissie - how you feeling?

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OracleInaCoracle · 16/06/2009 10:34

oh rainbows, is there nowt they can do?

im ok thanks, still no period so getting another test today!

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rainbowdays · 16/06/2009 10:52

Can I ask your advice? - I have just had phone call from hospital, they are not going to monitor my hcg levels going down now, they will just wait til next period and I have to do hpt then to check it is negative. But I was also offered blood tests for me and dh due to this being third consecutive m/c. I am not sure if I want to do this or not, what do you all think, is it worth it at our age (both in our 40's)? Or just keep hoping and praying an ttc?
Doc seems to think that I obviously have retained material, but she is happy for me to wait and if I get any signs of infection to go get antibiotis. She said any retained material will come away with next af. Sounds logical and sensible, but I am anxious that it will take ages for my hcg levels to go down, so it will take ages for af to arrive. I take it that therefore I can't ttc til then? My mind is racing with questions - can you offer me any help with these?

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OracleInaCoracle · 16/06/2009 10:58

its a shit decision to make and i do think your age is probably a factor that you need to consider. if i were you i would probably take the blood tests, it may well be something simple like a clotting disorder or pregesterone defect (well, not simple, but you know what i mean) im a bit shocked that they are just going to wait for you to pass any retained products. did they not offer a d&c? it may take a couple of months for everything to pass at this rate and its not fair on you to keep you in this hellish limbo.

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cedar12 · 16/06/2009 11:11

Hi Rainbowdays sorry everything is taking so long to settle down. Re tests I asked my consultant about having some she said she would do them but thought we were very unlikely to find any thing as we already have a dd. They usually test for clotting and chromosonal problems I think. So as we both have children it would unlikely to be these problems so my dr said. She said it was just probably bad luck not what you want to hear! I know its so heartbraking I really would love for someone to give me a reason. When I had my ectopic pg I knew why because my tubes are buggered. I am not sure whether to have any tests done or not either as its unlikely to show anything. But I think Maybe I will just to rule things out. To give you some hope my mum had 3 mc and then went on to have 2 healthy pg.
Lissie good luck with your test today.
Hi Anniemac.

rainbowdays · 16/06/2009 11:18

Lissie - it is funny, I thought I would be pressured into a d&c and was mentally preparing for it. I did not like the thought of it, so actually, I am in some ways relieved that I have not been asked. Although I am in limbo still, I had a good cry last night, and it was cathartic and so now I feel more able to wait it out. But part of me just wants to get back to ttc again too. I stopped bleeding last week, so I thought I could start ttc again, but the risk of infection and the retained products mentioned now make me think that we can't just resume normal activities. That will be tough. Perhaps a d&c would have been an easier option.
Is it possible to develop a clotting disorder or progesterone defect or anything else? I thought that most of the things they would look for would be things that you are born with? Am I way off beam here? Although I suppose something like a thyroid problem can develop later in life. Would they be testing for that too? Sorry my thoughts are just poring out here.

cedar12 · 16/06/2009 11:41

Just spoke to my clinic about stil not bleeding not able to talk to dr today. I think they are going to refer me back to the epu. Not sure what to do. I dont feel pg at all but have had no cramps or back ache for over a week. My body dosent seem to know what to do any more. Its my bday at the weekend thought this would have all sorted its self out by know.