Assisted conception (and the bits in between!) - part 3 - all welcome

[Caitni]

Right ladies, time for a new thread.

And a big welcome to everyone . Here's to many more success stories and healthy pregnancies!

Still haven't cracked open those cheddar wurst yet, it's a small victory!

I'll be testing next week - official date is 27th/28th depending on how you count to 14.

Oh sorry - I didn't see your post roseca hang in there sweetheart, try to distract yourself with something fun or some gardening or something. I know the positive/negative outlook has a way of going back and forth, especially for us who have been trying so hard. Huge Hugs to you!!! You are going in for a blood test rather than a HPT? Wow, you do have will power!
Chin up and keep moving forward - it ain't over yet!

OAP ? glad to hear scan went well ? all the best for EC tomorrow, hope you get some good ones.

Sooty ? superduper sperm, sounds wonderful, can imagine them with capes and masks on like superheros! I agree with you about the iui ? and I had to fight my corner on monday which felt horrible as you kind of hope they are on your side. It was all a bit strange because our consultant only let us do iui this year after we begged her, she actually advised we go straight onto icsi ?

Islegrin ? lol at your small victory, what IS cheddarwurst?? Some kinda cheesy sausage im guessing? hope 2ww goes really quickly for you.

Roseca ? we have v similar protocols, im doing short one too and same buserelin dose as you but only 150iu gonalF a day, thanks for the reassurance about follies growing lots over 2 days. Not surprised you feel a bit down in the dumps, all those hormones affect your mood too, but chin up, only 6 days til Monday? will keep everything firmly crossed for you. Hope you have some good things planned to keep you busy until then. Sending your embies lots of sticky burrowing vibes ((((((@@@)))))))

Gingerwine ? sounds like you timed it perfectly this month go swimmers go! Lol at your husband suffering those cold showers, hmmmm maybe I should threaten mine with that?

Londonlottie ? can I just say a big thank you for giving us your perspective on things ? not trite at all, very very helpful, its so hard to take a step back when you are right in the middle of everything and look at the bigger picture.

Caitni ? took on board your advice re hot water bottle and persuaded the cat to sit on my lap all evening ..

Bumpless ? it sounds like you?ve been through the mill, wishing you all the best for the next month or two.

Ailz ? lots of hot food, what a GOOD idea (mmmh curry, never ever need an excuse to have one of those!) Glad to hear you have a date in the diary now, have you looked at lots of different clinics? Got to admit we just went for the one nearest us without even looking at any others? which is probably not the best plan now that I think about it.

Thanks everyone for all your positive vibes, hope these follies have been listening... Right Im off to accost the cat for his warmth. Will let you know how scan goes tomorrow.

islegrin aint got that much will power just taking sensible option as i dont really want to think about the HPT over wkend unless i really ave to and dont wanna set myself up for a fall

bluebell think its just one of those days for me over tiredness still not sleeping i know i should be resting but think i will have a baking and cooking frenzie over the wkend to keep myself occupied seriously though dont worry about the follies will sprinkle some magic fairy dust over your follies and am willing them to grow lots.

Roseca I've been in a cooking frenzy too! Although I bombed on two vegetarian dishes today - ewwww - they were totally terrible!!! (Wish I had a dog to eat them up, rather than throw them out.) I'm just trying to keep my mind off of things and off of work (lots of stress).

Bluebell yes, yummy chessy sausagy goodness! Oozzzing with fat, loaded with calories, salt and tasty meat. (still not opened!!!)

Bumpless so glad you are feeling better. we all get into a state, believe me i know the despair. but there is a new day dawning and we will be fine. I love the 'carpet bombing' name, i will have to tell dh asap. i think it deserves such a name!
roseca hang in there girl. nearly there! ignore all symptoms and signs, they really mean nothing in my opinion. wait for test. i KNOW that is easy for me to say, but if we allow the signs and symptoms to take over, we go insane! trust me on that! you are definitely strong if you resist the hpt. i am impressed.
islegrin i am sorry but i dont think i like the sound of that cheesewurst. really sorry, maybe if i am really disgusted by it, then it will put you off eating it? that usually works for me. if someone goes euuurgh to something i am about to eat i literally cannot eat it. see if it works for you. eeeeuuuuuurrrrrgggghhhhh you are not going to eat that are you?
Bluebell good luck with scan. we are thinking of you

Just a quick one from me - EC today was fine, I had 7 eggs removed, of which they think 5 are mature. Just have to wait for that phonecall tomorrow morning to let me know if they have fertilised overnight!

Feeling OK, a bit spaced out still but having a lovely idle afternoon and evening being looked after. I showed DH the info letter that said I wasn't allowed to operate machinery including a kettle so have taken full advantage of this temporary inability of mine.

Back tomorrow, hope everyone is doing OK

OAP ? lol at the leaflet warning you away from the kettle, you put your feet up and enjoy the rest so happy to hear your EC went well, 7 eggs too, keeping everything crossed for you.

Well thanks ladies - those positive vibes, fairy dust (roseca!)and the heat of the cat have worked wonders. You were all right, lots can change in a day or two.

Now have 8 follicles, 6 are between 14 and 20cm. Saw different person today, they didnt understand why iui was mentioned to me on Monday and said its obvious I need more time stimming especially since my cycles are 30 days - next scan on Friday and all going well booked in for EC Monday.

Went for Shiatsu massage this afternoon - my kidney energy is now sorted (apparently in Chinese medicine this is related to reproduction. who knew!) - would recommend it as an alternative to acupuncture, works on same principles but no needles

Gud luck onlyaphase with the phonecall tomoro morning i will be thinking of you. the machinery thing and kettle after EC i tried for a couple of days extra but all i got was 2 days grace laying on the sofa and a day's worth of having tea made for me and 2 days out of kitchen i think i might have to feign illness now to get a bit more pampering

bluebelltold ya not to worry but you doing same as me i went round telling everyone that mine were measuring about 17cm the fertility nurse nearly fell off her chair laughing cause i was meant to say "millimetres" gosh could you imagine having 6 measuring on average 16 cm lol

ailz i am feeling happier today

islegrin i have been conjuring up in my head what i am going to be baking, have decided i am going to make some samosas for savoury and then for the seriously naughty part a couple of lemon drizzle cakes and some mocha fairy cakes with mascapone cheese chocolate icing sounds gross but are absolutely devine got the recipe out of hello magazine ages ago

hi to everyone else big fat positive vibes to everyone and some more fairy dust

Hello all, a long overdue from post from me, I've been lurking a bit but not posting as my life variously got turbulent (lengthy visit from Mother that was very stressful and ended badly) and busy (work got frantic) that left me feeling a bit battered and even typing seemed a struggle! But I'm feeling a bit more energetic now so thought I'd stop neglecting the thread and say Hi.

Glad to hear the EC went well OAP (I always feel so mean using that abbreviation ) and I hope the news is good tomorrow!

I hope the extra days stimming works well Bluebell and good luck for your next scan.

Islegrin, cheesewurst sound like the highly processed and highly delicious cheese sausages I grew up eating at family barbecues - divine!

Glad you're feeling better roseca and anything with marscapone chocolate icing sounds gorgeous to me.

Bumpless I know what you mean about the down patches. Just before I went on holiday last month I got my AMH test results (dire) and just wanted to avoid anything related to reproduction almost entirely, good or bad, I just didn't want to think about it. Now I've got my head around the prospect that this cycle is highly unlikely to work (on day 5 of 20 days of Marvelon now before starting on Buserelin on the flare/short protocol, will be injecting 600 units of Gonal F, eek!) and that hopefully by the end of the year we'll be looking at a cycle with donor eggs, and I feel calm and quite accepting of this. It has taken some time and some black moods however. I had another glum day today - three friends all had baby girls yesterday, can you believe?? - but generally at the moment things are good. I just try to ride them out, as best I can.

H to everyone else on the thread I haven't mentioned! I'll post more, promise

OAP that is great! oh the hard bit is over truly. and it is fantastic about the kettle. i also read on my paperwork that i should not go near a hot oven or iron! i gave them a wide berth i tell you! i did not have to be told twice! hope it is a great phonecall.
Bluebell hurrayyyyyyyy! SEE we were not joking when we said that we are all knowledgeable and wise! we know everything! I am delighted! These people, they just say whatever springs to their mind, not thinking for one moment that you might walk out of there with a broken heart and dwell on it for days thinking it is all over. well it is far from over, great news. REST, REST and more REST, good thoughts and good vibes, thinking of you.
Roseca glad you are feeling better and those cakes sound gorgeous. if they turn out well you must post the recipe.
NotPrincessAnne i am so sorry you have had a hard and awful time. I hope all that stress is behind you now. That is really hard, those 3 friends having babies. it took my breath away when i read it. that must have knocked you over. the drugs sound strong and tough, you are strong to go through this. you can be even stronger. just draw on the positives and you will get where you want to go.

ailz made the cakes before will post the recipe on here providing it wont iritate the hell out of everyone.

NotPrincessAnne soz to hear you had a rough time of it lately hope you are feeling more positive now and that everything works out for you

onlyaphase getting worried you not been on yet hope you got the news you wished for

onlyaphase hope you got a great phone call today [hugs}
Roseca it wont irritate anyone dont worry. we could all do with some lovely homemade treats! it makes me feel less guilty when they are homemade. i dont know why.
hope everyone is having a great day x

ailz will post tomorrow am watching some documentary on the worlds oldest mums at the moment

god no rush posting it. i have just switched over to the programme, didnt know it was on. i am shocked!

Roseca how old is that indian woman?

I am having a really pooh day. Currently undergoing assisted conception cycle with zoladex, puregon and now synerol. Went for a day 9 scan today and was told that my ovaries have barely responded. Urgent blood samples give my FSH at approx 250 when it should be in excess of a 1000. The trouble is I really feel as though I am responding. I've had menogon and menopur in the past but have had dreadful skin reactions to the jabs which is why we have changed. Also I generally run late with ovulation normally. The docs kind of want me stop today but I have asked if I can go top whack with the injection (up from 300iu to 450iu) and incorporate synerol spray. Th eplan is to rescan Monday and I am hoping for a miracle. My 1st assisted conception (we have have ICSI) produced 2 grade A but implantation failed, 2nd gave me 4 grade A and 2 grade B. Little Ellis is the result and he is now nearly 2. This is 3rd attempt and we are paying! What do I do ladies???

nessandellis sorry you are having a really bad day. it is so hard to hear bad news like this. unfortunately i dont know a lot about the figures, i have had one failed ivf, but i never paid much attention to the numbers. however you may read above on this thread about another woman who was told she may as well quit on day 9 too and is now pregnant and another woman who was told same and waited a couple of more days and it changed dramatically. I would definitely say stick at it, up the dose and sit back. i would see what others with more knowledge and experience on here have to say, but good luck. hope it works out. let us know.

On the other hand nessandellis in my experience each cycle is different. This may just be a dud cycle and in the past you have had some pretty good ones, so maybe it's worth pulling back at this point and trying again in a few months? It depends on the costs of course, but my understanding is that abandoning is relatively inexpensive (it is in Australia) compared to going through to EC. Just because this cycle has been difficult, doesn't mean that the next will be . . . I know how hard it is to abandon a cycle (I have now abandoned 3 due to lack of response), but this one failing doesn't mean the next one will. You may need to change your protocol. The cycle that produced no response from me was a flare using Synarel, it completely shut me down for about two months. I'm now on an antagonist protocol with no downregg which while producing low level results is at least reasonably reliable (always one follicle and up to four mature sometimes). Take a deep breath, do the maths and look at the big picture, don't focus on the immeadiate sense of disappointment.

Sorry nessandellis I didn't mean to sound completely negative, and I think that waiting until monday is completely fine too. But if you still have had a low response, don't feel too bad about letting it go.

There will be another cycle. . .

Hi Girls.
So I'm looking to pick your brains. I'm on clomid. Took 5 pills starting July 14th. Was told to start TTC July 21st. So hubby and I had intercourse Tuesday and Wednesday, and tonight(Thursday). But after intercourse tonight I had some pinkish (assuming blood) discharge. It's way too early for my period, but is it too hopeful to think it may be implantation bleeding from just 2 days ago??
Probably wishful thinking, but I just thought I'd ask if any of you ladies had experienced it?
Thanks

Hi ladies - thank you so much for your feedback! I am definately going with it until Monday! However, I am pretty much resigned to my fate but then that's my clinical head on (I'm a nurse)and not not my emotive head. The cycle refund is only partial and so far it's cost nearly £5,000, so naturally it's tricky to raise more cash. Ellis was a funded cycle though and they never told me at the time how many I was entitled to so I have written to the director of public health today to get some answers. Watch this space . I let you know what happens Monday afternoon. Good luck everyone else!

Hi ladies - thank you so much for your feedback! I am definately going with it until Monday! However, I am pretty much resigned to my fate but then that's my clinical head on (I'm a nurse)and not not my emotive head. The cycle refund is only partial and so far it's cost nearly £5,000, so naturally it's tricky to raise more cash. Ellis was a funded cycle though and they never told me at the time how many I was entitled to so I have written to the director of public health today to get some answers. Watch this space . I let you know what happens Monday afternoon. Good luck everyone else!