Feisty & Fabulous at 40+ - the continuing adventures of TTC

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Erm hope this will do as a continuation thread. Hello to anyone new to the thread. All welcome... xx

That was me, by the way. I'm back to my own name for a bit, while I figure out whether my colleague would be likely to stumble on my posts and realise that I'm me.

Rowing, it all sounds like good news over there - can't wait for the next step...thanks for advice re AF, all I want is a scan, really. I think!
BRPanda/KKat your description is exactly like mine-colour and texture wise iykwim.
Fifitot -know what you mean about those stats... all those figures that get flung around, they never mention whether they include everyone ttc, first-timers, those that definitely cant have kids etc... Anyway it's prob 3% any one month which makes 36% over a year?
Enjoy the weekend folks
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Morning All !
Hope everyone is in good spirits today ! Am determined to make the most of the lovely weather here today before it chucks it down tomorrow !
Rowing - great news on the embie front. Sending lots and lots of luck and positive vibes to you.
Kiwi - I have one of those microscope thingys, personally I don't rate it that highly. Whether I got ferning or not on any particular day seemed pretty random and I hardly ever got it first thing in the morning. Hopefully it will work better for you. I do still use it though cos I can't resist playing with gadgets !
Going at it this cycle with supplements, diet and acupuncture (must not forget to BD !), as if no luck this time round will also be joining the clomid gang plus injectables as a bonus. Joy !
On the up side must be doing something right as have suddenly become eggwhite positive after not seeing the stuff for many months so you never know !
Happy bank holiday ladies xx

Hi girls! Good to see how you're all doing. Bit of a stressful few days with my parents staying. Now have a weeks break, then they're back next saturday.Aargh!

Rowing - best of luck with your little fertilised fellas!

Beamel - i'm right with you there - this month i'm really going for it, 2nd month on clomid and really determined...! Of course supposed OV week corresponds to my parents being here and me & DP on the sofa bed in the kitchen! Great! We'll have our ancient fridge as background music. Can you think of ANYTHING less likely to get you in the mood than having your parents in the next room and a sofa bed that's more like a boat?!!

Tetley, don't envy you attempting the mission with parents around!

Tell me about it! i've had such terrible timing the last few months. Back in february I booked a trip to london for april and calculated the dates really carefully as dp wasn't coming. Then followed 2 freak, really short cycles that completely wrecked my timing. We would have had to practically bd at airport arrivals to have had any hope that month. Now this month I've got my mum & dad snoring through the wall . All the grapefruit juice in the planet isn't going to help with that!

Kiwicat - how's it going with the clomid?! Am not quite at that stage yet - having bloods done next week and the week after, and then we'll see what they do. Am not sure if it will work for me, as am reasonably certain I am ov'ing. The doctor seemed to think there was more of a chance of it being some kind of clotting disorder, but we will see...

Rowing - have all fingers and toes crossed for all your eggs. Hope it's all going better than good.

Tetley - I bet they never consider work schedules and parents as contributary factors in failing to conceive. I feel a research project coming on - anyone got a grant?

beamel - that's great about the EWCM! Do you think it was the acupuncture wot done it?

As for me, I am just about into the 2ww, and (day one) trying not to obsess. I think I am getting better at that though, as I found myself considering career change plans without even thinking, but what if I get pregnant? I've stayed with Mad Boss for too long, because doing what I want to do next would take me a year, perhaps two, to do, and what if I do get pregnant. Now I'm starting to think I'd better do it anyway!

Ah yes, the acupuncture! I'd forgotten about that. Do you think that did have anything to do with anything, Beam?

VonSuden, I'm on cd27, so if AF gets me tomorrow or Wednesday, as I fully expect she will (witch), then I start the clomid on cd2. Haven't got a clue how it's going to go, but I had a sneaky peak onto Fruit and Tetley's clomid thread and it all sounded a bit scary, to tell you the truth. So I'm pretending that it's not going to happen - denial all the way!

Rowing, what news? And how about the rest of you? Did you all go away for a lovely long weekend, and are now tucked up in your beds so as to be fresh and perky for the new week? At least it's a short one. Yahoo!

think I'm going slightly insane. The truth be known DP not even that keen on the whole idea of another DC. he's a bit been there, done that and glad the really tiring bit is over, I think. O'd today and he away so that's another month down the tubes, if you'll excuse.....
Many's the day I think I should just get on and make the most of what is here rather than spending all this energy on wanting.... but do I ever?
sorry for rant. I love reading everyone's news. Post more!!!
KiwiKat - what do you think re the acupuncture?
Rowing -what's up? Is no news good news.
Tetley - good luck.
Vonsuden - how long your cycle? I would be starting 2WW tomorrow. KWYM re planning. What do you think about Mad Boss and your stress levels and the whole TTC thing?
Happy Wednesday everyone

Morning Ladies !
Kiwi and VSF - I am convinced the acupuncture is doing the job. I guess the real test is whether I either get a more impressive AF this time round (mine are disappearing) or more follies on my next CD3 scan. That would be real proof !
I also have some herbal tablets that my acu lady prescribed which I am starting today so will be interested to see if they do anything.
If I do see some real effects I am tempted to delay the clomid for a couple of months and keep trying naturally just in case it does the job. I'm getting injects too which I don't fancy very much. Will keep you posted !
Kiwi - good luck with the clomid !
Rowing - hope all going well over there !
Have a happy day everyone !

Hmm - acupuncture might be the way to go. Does it hurt? How much does it cost? And how many sessions do you have to go for? Would you do acupuncture at the same time as clomid, though?

Where IS everyone?

Kiwi - £48 first session, £35 after that, can feel needles going in but doesn't actually hurt, My acu says 6 sessions to see a good effect. I would do it whilst taking clomid but would love to avoid the clomid if I possibly can !
It is pretty quiet isn't it ?

Hello everyone,

Anyone else just hear the piece on secondary infertility on the radio just now? Not sure it told us anything new but I thought it was interesting that they didn't just come out and say, "forget it - you're too old!" even in the context of Sarah Jessica Parker and the surrogate twins. I wonder if the lady interviewed is one of us? The expert obstetrician was quite fair and even quoted a 10% chance which is better than the 3% in the paper the other day. In my mind, one in ten aren't bad odds.

Feeling as though af is imminent and tbh starting to have second thoughts about the whole ttc thing. We have done everything right this month, but have had a nightmare week sleepwise with dd and starting to think I really am too old and not sure I could go through it all again.

Good luck everyone, especially Rowing - any news?

Had the results back from the blood test and I did ov this month but not really sure where this leaves me. Have got an appointment in a couple of weeks (earliest I could get in) to speak to GP and get referral to infertility clinic. Has anyone been to an infertility clinic and what do they ask/do?

Hope Rowing is getting on well - FX

PS: Have given up taking folic acid, am drinking when I feel like it, taking medication when I need it and eating/doing all the other stuff you hold off from when ttc. It's been great but am trying not to think about the possibility that having ov'd I might be pg as I'll start worrying about the damage I could have done and the consequences don't bear thinking about

Hey Spiral - I've just been through the clinic thing. They basically do a standard set of tests: ultrasound and follicle count, CD3 bloods, hysterosalpingogram, SA for DH - nothing unpleasant. Then the drill seems to be that having excluded anything obvious and correctable they try 'superovulation' with drugs to try and give things a kick. We did go private because it made things much quicker but the same deal applies to NHS referrals. Was it a 7DPO progesterone you had done ? If so its good news that you are ov'ing on your own.
I also threw in a few supplements which took ages to research as there is so much hype and witchcraft out there associated with ttc, and started the acupuncture too.
Hope that helps !

Hi Spiral - I'm with you on the drinking (not that I do much of it anyway), medication, not taking the folic acid etc. I think it's helped me to relax a bit more and to be honest I think the chances of serious damage are very small given that we would know within a few weeks if we were pg or not - so the risk of exposure might be a couple of weeks at most - unlike some people who continue drinking etc until well into their pregnancy because they didn't know they were pg.

Rockdoctor - like you awaiting AF who feels like she is due anyday now. I am also considering giving up TTC. I am so torn about it though. Would love another baby and a sib for DD but............there are so many other issues, not least my age and how tiring a baby would be at 46 and financially we are still recovering from number 1. I don't know, I have never felt so conflicted about something in all my life.

Beams - had day 21 bloods. Thanks for all that info - really helpful

Fifi - Know exactly where you're coming from. I do seem to get more tired at 46 than I did a year ago even but was trying to think in terms of being completely shot for a few years with a second DC and then things improving but then you see some people's comments about how difficult having two is in comparison with just one and you start to think again...

It seems like for every argument for there's an equally strong case against

Hard isn't it? I'm struggling at the moment between thinking "I should be having a baby next month" and the realisation that with DD behaving the way she is and the fact I'm knackered, there's no way I could have coped (but I would have coped, wouldn't I?)

Hopefully someone will be along soon to cheer us all up.

Like Fifi and Rockdoctor, I'm also waiting for AF, due today, and am trying to kid myself that it won't matter if it arrives.

Sorry to hear so many of you are feeling down about it all - it does take it out of you, I guess, the rollercoaster ride of hope, disappointment etc. Don't think I'll be the one to cheer anyone up - am just managing to chug along, am not particularly perky tonight. About to go to bed - if I can drag myself away MN, that is!

Hi everyone!

I'm here with the introvenous chocolate and virtual happy pills to cheer us all the heck up. Oh, you've all gone to bed like sensible girls. I'm just waking up this time of night but it's not funny in the mornings!

No news here except I've completely convinced myself I'm pg for absolutely no feckin reason at all. So, the usual 2ww insanity and delusion then!

Kiwi / Vonsud - I'll hold your hand(s) if you go ahead with the clomid - coz I'm such a pro 2 months in obviously - but the offer's there. It does seem v daunting the 1st month. Oh and kiwi I'm having acup. while on the clomid and my lady just bears that in mind - doesn't do anything directly in the reproduction areas so as not to interfere with the drugs, just concentrates on balancing the energies and improving quality of blood etc. £40 and then £30 in my area. I generally get one needle that bloody hurts and the rest I can't feel. She also warms the skin with a "moka" stick which is like a huge jostick and smells like ganja! No idea if any of this is working!

Rock radio prog sounds good, which station / programme? Can we get it on i-player u think?

Rowing - hope everythings going good for you. Thinking of you. Look forward to you checking in.

Nighty night x

Sorry to hear that lots of you are feeling a bit down at the moment, it must be something in the air for us all to have it at once. Although what I mostly have is an irritating low grade virus that is making my muscles ache and my head spin if I move it too fast. Most annoying.

haraslou - my cycle is a thing of strange mystery at the moment - my ov ranges from day 11-16 and then another 17 or so days after that, so it's a long haul. How long is yours?

And do I think Mad Boss is affecting my stress levels? Possibly, but then what I would do next - go even more freelance and sell my skills in some completely new areas - would be even more stressful than that! So I can't really win. Am going to start making exit plans, though, so at least I am doing something. In fact, that is this morning's job, when I've done with MN!

Fruitbowl - what was the reasoning behind Clomid? Just to give the whole system a kick up the backside?

Hope rowing's doing OK out there!

Hello all.... brand new to Mum's net ( have been reading and taking on all your advice to each other - but haven't been brave enough to post before today).

I am 40, have two DD's aged 11 and 12, but have been TTC with new DP for a year. we have had two MC's back to back, the last one in Jan and have been waiting for AF before trying again. Still no sign of AF.... 4 months now. AM I MENOPAUSAL...is it too late ?

Hi all,

Sorry so many people have been feeling down - it does get to be a bit much all this waiting hoping thing.

Welcome to Trimummy - don't know why the witch won't visit but I do know af can get very seriously messed up following an mc and after two things would really need some time to settle - so sorry to hear you went through all that.

I'm actually feeling quite pleased with myself cause this month nothing weird happened and I got a nice day 18 (normal for me temp rise) so I probably did ov and we even managed to BD at roughly the right times (probably).

But for once I honestly haven't been getting too flustered about the two weeks of 'am I aren't I', this month I was just happy to have a vaguely normal cycle! Mind you I did get a bit excited when my temp suddenly shot up on monday (way higher than usual) but then came down with a nice dose of gastric flu

Good luck and lots of sunshine to all....