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Feisty & Fabulous at 40+ - the continuing adventures of TTC

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fruitbowl · 24/04/2009 20:32

Erm hope this will do as a continuation thread. Hello to anyone new to the thread. All welcome... xx

OP posts:
vonsudenfed · 24/07/2009 08:50

hello everyone, and welcome summer sky, and TFLS

I'm still here, waiting for AF, which is late but imminent judging by the pains which woke me up last night. No clomid next cycle as the fecking drs surgery couldn't get me a blood test anywhere near the right day. Grrr. I am now concentrating on the upsides, which is the chances are that I won't be pg when we go to France in Sept so I can eat cheese, salami and oysters until they come out of my ears.

peasoup - how are you getting on with the fertility monitor? Is it worth the investment?

spiral - I had heard that too about the winter return of the flu. it's in my town now, so we shall see. Am about to go into town to buy some high grade echinacea to boost our immune systems...

KiwiKat · 24/07/2009 13:46

Afternoon everyone. Popping in quickly during my lunch hour. Did anyone see that tv programme last night about older mums? Part of me was rejoicing, because I'm so much younger than them, so SURELY I have a chance? And part of me wanted to cry, because I could see how much having a baby meant to these women. Very emotional.

Yes, I still have the PHBs, Rowing. Crap weather in London all week, and I'm reassessing my life/career etc and starting to wonder whether it might be time to move somewhere else.

However -

Hope you're all having a lovely Friday.

vonsudenfed · 24/07/2009 13:49

news update: surgery have relented and I pick up the prescription this afternoon (AF having arrived in the meantime...). So what am I letting myself in for?!?

KiwiKat · 24/07/2009 14:07

No cheese, salami and oysters, anyway!

vonsudenfed · 24/07/2009 14:20

I hope so - should be going a bit after the next AF, so we'll see.

But is it going to mess with my head? Dr just said get some good painkillers for the ov pains...

KiwiKat · 24/07/2009 14:24

Treat it like you would PMT - I warn DH that's it about to be dangerous, and try really hard to be rational - this of course, doesn't happen.

SummerSky · 24/07/2009 15:38

Hello, I just read about the TV program on last night I didn't see it, what channel was it on? Perhaps I can find it on the internet and stream. I'd love to see it as any hope is a light. Mind you just listening to my 5 yr old have a major, major paddy about a pair of socks, love em and hate em all at the same time, silly me for wanting to have a minute to myself during the daytime.

This has given me new incentive though I have an acupuncture session tomorrow and am taking the vile herbs twice a day as instructed and not the once. Just had 2 cycles of 17 days though - Chinese Dr says I am readjusting - it's dreadful though when you should be OV to see AF, the worst. Had thought about taking Agnus Castus as I think my progesterone levels must be low - breast pain during the month.

Is anyone else on the herbal route?

SummerSky · 24/07/2009 15:42

Oops sorry think I just posted my last message!

Hello, I just read about the TV program on last night I didn't see it, what channel was it on? Perhaps I can find it on the internet and stream. I'd love to see it as any hope is a light. Mind you just listening to my 5 yr old have a major, major paddy about a pair of socks, love em and hate em all at the same time, silly me for wanting to have a minute to myself during the daytime.

This has given me new incentive though I have an acupuncture session tomorrow and am taking the vile herbs twice a day as instructed and not the once. Just had 2 cycles of 17 days though - Chinese Dr says I am readjusting - it's dreadful though when you should be OV to see AF, the worst. Had thought about taking Agnus Castus as I think my progesterone levels must be low - breast pain during the month.

Is anyone else on the herbal route?

chegirl · 24/07/2009 16:07

Hello all. I am being very lazy and jumping in at the end.

Is it ok if I join you. I am 42 and tcc No 5 (3 birth children, 1 adopted). Feel a bit cheeky but I just cant stop till I have to IYSWIM.

Took me a year with DS3 who is now 18mths. I was honestly suprised that I managed. Now of course worried that it was a massive fluke. I am not sure if I am in the right place so please tell me if I am not. Is this a general tcc thread? I know there are sometimes threads for people who have been tcc for a long time and I have just began.

Anyway nice to meet you all

fifitot · 24/07/2009 20:14

Anyone 40+ who is ttc is more than welcome! Hello.

kaffywaffy · 24/07/2009 20:45

Hi all,

Feeling down as had a 17 day cycle . Very reassured by SummerSky having the same - felt a bit of a freak until then
.

Got all excited thinking the discomfort and spotting was implantation then AF arrived (what does AF stand for please? I have figured out what it means, but am curious at risk of sounding dumb...)

Shocked at how upset I was - tears and snot for days - I thought I had a 'what will be will be' attitude, but I want this more than I thought. It doesn't help that I share an office with a hugely pregnant woman (her third child) who just will not shut up!

Anyway, on a positive, my DD did her first poo on the toilet today! So proud!

chegirl · 24/07/2009 20:58

Thanks fifitot

Sorry about your news kaffy. Every time I have ttc I have been exactly the same. Even when I have sworn not to. Always go into it thinking 'I am NOT going to do loads of tests or look at the calendar' etc etc and I always do.

Last ttc was the first time I had used ovulation sticks and actually tried to learn about how my body works. I suppose because I was much younger when I had my first children I didnt even think about it.

Not sure how I will approach it this time. I would like to relax and just let it happen or not but I am not counting on it.

I work in a huge open plan office and most of my colleagues are younger women. Consequently there are at least 2-3 pg all the time!

AF = auntie flo (flow) as far as I know. Not keen on the term myself but

Hurray for DD and her advanced poo'ing skills

kaffywaffy · 24/07/2009 21:23

Thank you chegirl

I feel better now

Can anyone recommend an ovulation stick? the cheaper the better... and do you guys think they are worth using?

fifitot · 24/07/2009 21:37

I use cheap ones from Access Diagnostics but think the digital ones are easier to read. YOu get a smily face when you are fertile. They cost about £17 for 5 though so a bit of an investment.

kaffywaffy · 24/07/2009 22:07

Good Grief! (picks her fat ar*e up off the floor)

This TTC thing is sounding a bit pricy... I can only begin to imagine how much the other interventions can cost.

I guess I will just keep BDing whenever I can and hope for the best.... for a few more cycles anyway.

kaffywaffy · 24/07/2009 22:13

I sound so tight.

Please note - I am not undervaluing a precious child.

kaffywaffy · 24/07/2009 22:22

Just looked at Access Diagnostics web-site - great! thought you meant cheap ones were £17.
Valuable lesson learned - do not go on Mumsnet when p**d!

Off to my bed...

pat42 · 24/07/2009 22:59

Is it some kind of virus going around, so many people having short cycles? I was horrified by my 19 day cycle. Initially I hoped it was implantation bleeding and when it continued I convinced myself I was going perimenopausal. Anyway, no signs of ovulation yet, CD10. I guess I have worried myself into anovulatory cycles. Need to loosen up. Easier said than done. Once you get the ttc bug in your head, its almost impossible to feel relaxed. Godd luck to all of us.

SummerSky · 25/07/2009 05:53

Kaffy waffy so sorry to hear about the emotional time - you are not alone, every mnth I think this is it I know the symptoms I even had terrible pains around implantation on the last pgcy, so I look forward to pain as it might be a sign. My mnths are so precious now. I bought some ov sticks on ebay for about £4.00 for 10 inc P&P, sorry can't remember the name look under fertility. I think though charting is the best way, not that I always trust my thermometer. Well done about the Poo!

Too early in the morning for anyone - I think I haved picked up a real virus from DD she decided 'it's Ok I'm going to brave about the socks' so I may have to cancel acup, have to get better by next weekend as this is around OV (if I do this mnth)

Pat42 Yes easier said than done to relax and it's a big reason not to concieve, hence the acup I got very worked up that's how I found this site. I was doing yoga and it helped but now the summer holidays are here I'm on full time duty.

spiralqueen could you tell me please what tests your Dr gave you. I am going to make an app.and need some facts before she hands me a catologue on stairlifts and mobility scooters.

kiwikat Do you remember what chanel that program was on please? I'd love to see it. I love to know I'm not the only one out there.

Fifitot How is is going are you still ttc? I'm interested because you are close to me in age.

The sun is up so I'm going back to bed but contrary to popular belief I am not Dracula!
Have a lovely weekend all.

KiwiKat · 25/07/2009 15:33

Hi everyone, the programme was on Channel 4 on Thursday 23rd July. This is the link to the show, and this is the link to what the MNers had to say about it as they watched. I'll be interested to hear what people on this thread think, since we have a slightly different interest in it from the rest of the MNers.

rowingboat · 26/07/2009 08:55

Hi everyone,
my broadband connection has been playing up for the past couple of days grrr!
Hope I get to post this!?!!?

Kaffy I used a couple of Ebay sellers for OPKs (Ovulation Predictor Kits) and they seemed to work OK.
They all seem to sell similar sticks on Ebay, but I have noticed that some sellers have recently changed to sticks in a black packet, which I don't find as responsive.

I saw the programme Kiwi - so sad about the little boys losing their mummy at the end, but the other mums seemed to being doing well.
Where are you thinking about going/working?

VSH hi sweetie did you get your clomid?

Pat and Summer welcome to the thread, it's great on here, I don't want to ever leave, although I may feel rather out of place when I am seventy.

My latest is that I saw the IVF counsellor last week - I don't think I reported back? She wasn't quite what I was expecting - kind of started arguing with me about the number of embryos put back at our clinic. I thought counsellors listened and reflected back, not argued the toss. I have made another appointment - she was mainly OK, but just not quite what I thought she would be.
I noticed another IVF'er had not recommended this counsellor on another forum, so I may send her a message to find out what her experience was.
I think the side-effects of the pill I am taking are kicking in now, starting to feel a bit negative and anxious, kind of PMSy. Rubbiiiish!

rowingboat · 26/07/2009 08:57

Hi everyone,
my broadband connection has been playing up for the past couple of days grrr!
Hope I get to post this!?!!?

Kaffy I used a couple of Ebay sellers for OPKs (Ovulation Predictor Kits) and they seemed to work OK.
They all seem to sell similar sticks on Ebay, but I have noticed that some sellers have recently changed to sticks in a black packet, which I don't find as responsive.

I saw the programme Kiwi - so sad about the little boys losing their mummy at the end, but the other mums seemed to being doing well.
Where are you thinking about going/working?

VSH hi sweetie did you get your clomid?

Pat and Summer welcome to the thread, it's great on here, I don't want to ever leave, although I may feel rather out of place when I am seventy.

My latest is that I saw the IVF counsellor last week - I don't think I reported back? She wasn't quite what I was expecting - kind of started arguing with me about the number of embryos put back at our clinic. I thought counsellors listened and reflected back, not argued the toss. I have made another appointment - she was mainly OK, but just not quite what I thought she would be.
I noticed another IVF'er had not recommended this counsellor on another forum, so I may send her a message to find out what her experience was.
I think the side-effects of the pill I am taking are kicking in now, starting to feel a bit negative and anxious, kind of PMSy. Rubbiiiish!

vonsudenfed · 26/07/2009 14:05

yes, have clomid. Am so tired and stressed and hormonal anyway that I can't see how it can make me any worse [grrrr]. How long are you taking the pill for? At least clomid is just 5 days.

fifitot · 26/07/2009 18:47

Summer - yes still ttc and on 2ww but not hopeful. I think I am slowly coming to terms with it as this months have finally got rid of some baby equipment and baby clothes. I may have turned a corner....will have to see how I feel next month.

thefatladyscreams · 26/07/2009 23:16

Hi to everyone.

summersky - is TCM traditional chinese medicine? I'm curious as I've just started seeing a acupuncturist who specialises in fertility. The EPAU talked a lot about 42 years being a significant point but my acupuncturist seemed to focus more on how my cycle was etc rather than age.

rowing boat - sorry you didn't click with your counsellor. Not an ideal situation. Have you heard back from the other forum?

I've lost leave of my senses and purchased a Clearblue Fertility Monitor this weekend . DH did point out that it would be just as effective and much cheaper to just have sex every day.... You can tell we are TTC no 1!

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