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Feisty & Fabulous at 40+ - the continuing adventures of TTC

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fruitbowl · 24/04/2009 20:32

Erm hope this will do as a continuation thread. Hello to anyone new to the thread. All welcome... xx

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kaffywaffy · 14/07/2009 19:28

Spiral Best to ask your pharmacist or GP about hayfever treatment.
A spray does not get into your system as much as a tablet or drops, and there are a multitude of non-steroidal preparations available - many on prescription.

pat42 · 14/07/2009 19:31

Hi, Ladies.
Anybody has any ideas about anovulatory cycles? Is it shorter than usual cycles, CM any different etc. I am pathetic with temping and don't trust opks. This month I didn't get any blue line (light or dark) on CB (except for control, of course)on the six days that I tested before getting frustrated and giving up. I am expecting AF on 21st ( based on my usual cycle length). I feel anovulatory cycles should be shorter.
Good Luck Rowing.

grownupbabes · 14/07/2009 19:37

Hi I had an anovulatory cycle about a year ago. It was really stressful because AF just didn't arrive. Of course I hoped hoped hoped for BFP. Went to the doctor in the end and had a hormone profile done because I was so confused by what was happening. In fact I evntually had about a 50 day cycle.. it was really like missing one completely. So no, I wouldn't expect it to be shorter; by my own experience, I would expect it to be longer. But basically the science behind it seems to be that you have to wait for the progesterone to fall off before AF arrives, so it could be anytime - whenever your body eventually triggers that.

pat42 · 14/07/2009 19:42

Thanks, Grownup. Now atleast I won't get my hopes high in case it gets delayed.

peasoup · 14/07/2009 19:59

Just wanted to add that really naughty sex dreams WERE a symptom of my last pregnancy , so you might have struck gold there, kaffy!
Anyway I haven't been on this thread much but wanted to re join now that I'm TRUELY TTC. As in, I'm on my first month with my Clear Blue Fertility Monitor. Day 20. managed to BD on one of my peak days and one of my high days. Note to self-must try harder next month. What does the blue lines mean? Couldn't find an explanantion in the leaflet. Sometimes one blue line appears after peeing, sometimes two. What does it mean? I've given my details before on this thread but just a re cap- I'm 42 and a half, with one DS age 3 and a half. Conceived on the first bonk age 38 (not the first bonk EVER, just the first one whilst TTC)

kaffywaffy · 14/07/2009 20:47

peasoup - glad to hear it wasn't your first bonk ever!

Have not had any more dreams - just one wonderful night (but that will keep me smiling for some time!)

fruitbowl · 14/07/2009 22:19

Hi gals

Kaffy! Glad you stuck around . (passing the choc). Think there might be something in the naughty dream theory or maybe we're all just enjoying ourselves!

Rowing - Glad the "wanding" went OK (Great expression i once heard for those nice internal scans!). Loads of luck for everything you have coming up. Askign the wrong person about "post-gym tiredness", I just get the PRE gym variety that prevents me from ever going! (passes more choc)

Spiral - what did you do about the drugs? I so know what you mean. I've been so careful for so many bloody years now, I'm in a devil-may-care mood these days, secretly hoping that I'll double bluff my body into getting up the duff! It's the double bluff-duff! U do what's right for you though (she adds quickly in case Spiral sues)

Hi to Pat & Peasoup too.

Me on (gulp) Cday 33. Trying not to squee with too much excitement as have been known to have the occassional long cycle. (Runs to hide in corner and shuts eyes until she knows for definite one way or other...)

xx

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kaffywaffy · 14/07/2009 23:11

Thank you for the chocs - on healthy eating plan in RL, so figure I can stuff myself silly on the virtual stuff

I've got some brownies... help yourself (big drawn-out burp)

Everything (except legs) crossed for you fruitbowl

rowingboat · 15/07/2009 08:54

Hi everyone,
welcome Peasoup, lets hope it's your second first bonk which produces child number two as well!

Kaffy, good to see you dusted yourself off and stuck around. Now put those virtual chocolates down and get on that virtual exercise bike.

Fruit stop doing piglet impersonations! So when do you think you will test (if you haven't sneaked in a test already)?? Do you feel pg?
Yes the 'wanding' wasn't too bad, funny the difference between doctors and technique. This doctor was very gentle compared with the last bloke who thought he was excavating a mine shaft or something.

I am just texting Orange to get some 2 for 1 tickets for Harry Potter (Potty Pot Pots as DP call's him) tonight. Oooo, excited!!!

gonepearshaped · 15/07/2009 09:21

Hello all, been preoccupied with life in general so haven't checked in for a while, its nice to catch up again.... Watch it with those handbags Fruitbowl and Rowing.

Hmm, so last month the whole ov thing was just silly, ff eventually decided it happened on cd 23 but I don't even think that was right...

Am gearing up for the next stint of BD but to be honest the temperature here has just shot up in to the high 80's and the idea getting any hotter or stickier is seriously unappealing (oops, possibly a tad tmi)

Oh for aircon. Anyway have to get on with it cause I'm back to the UK for a month in August (just so I can get a bit of grey skies and drizzly days on the beach)

Am going to try a few sessions of acupuncture when I'm back in the hopes you can sort of of store up the good effects.

Anyway good luck to all and welcome to Kaffy!

rowingboat · 15/07/2009 13:21

Hi GPS, that sounds a bit too much. It's OK if you can stay on the beach all day, but I'm not sure what the reaction would be to a spot of bding on the beach. Just tell them you are ovulating.
Yes lots of clouds and torrential rain here interspersed with hot sun. Can't go out without a hat, suncream, an umbrella, wellies and a lightning conductor.

Have just been reading a stupid piece of research linking women exercising with lower live birth rate. What! Cannot win!

spiralqueen · 15/07/2009 15:28

Hi all. Did I miss the chocolates?

Tablet disection not very successful so was thinking about one every other day. Have now seen Kaffy's advice so thanks for that and I will investigate.

Fruit promise not to sue I'm definitely with you on the bluffing front. Makes sense to us even if no-one else agrees

Rowing that's some schedule. Fingers crossed though.

vonsudenfed · 16/07/2009 09:51

Hello everyone,

I am trying to keep up, but at the moment I am buried in finishing a piece of work and a cycle where I had a stinking cold at the crucial moment, so there isn't a lot to report. So kind of accidental time off really.

grownup - glad the TCM seems to be doing its stuff so quickly, that sounds amazing. Am not sure I have the stomach for it, though.

Spiralqueen - I had terrible hayfever when I was pregnant with DD, and the doctor said that the inhalers were OK to use as v little got into your bloodstream. Imagine that's true of the eye drops too. Easier than microsurgery on tablets too...

rowingboat - glad it's all full steam ahead again. And is that really true about exercise?! I am a three times a week gym bunny at the moment in my attempts to just get on and get a life and am almost getting fit. Gah.

fruitbowl - day 33 eh? How many DPO? If it's 16 or 17 then even FertilityFriend (the world's most pessimistic
computer) would be telling you to test...

and welcome kaffy - sorry to hear you got a mauling, but we're not like that

Right - work calls...

pat42 · 16/07/2009 15:52

Fruit, Waiting to hear good news from you with fingers crossed.
All the very best Rowing, fingers crossed for you too. I am really looking forward to some exciting news from you all to pull myself out of the hole I feel I am in. AF came yesterday on CD19 instead of the usual day 24/25. Did not get a LH surge by OPK in this cycle so I was kind of expecting it to be early as estrogen breakthrough bleeding. I never kept track of my cycles since I had my daugter 11 years ago. Just had a general idea that they are regular 24/25 days. Started tracking in May and anovulatory cycle already. May be its an indication for me to give up on it and go back to being happy with my little family. After all I was happy all these years. We had medical terminations twice during this time because we weren't ready. I wonder if this is God's way of punishing me for not paying attention to the things that really mattered. I don't know why in past eleven years the issue of having another child never became anything other than an occasional fleeting thought. I recall feeling a momentary twinge when two of my collegues at work fell pregnant with their seconds a couple of years ago, but it was not enough to get me working on it and I forgot that feeling even before I got home and was actually happy for them. I keep going back to so many incidents in the past few years that should have woke us up. You can't turn back the clock but the most frustrating thing is why am I suddenly botherd by it now? Why suddenly having an only child is not enough for me? I feel very guilty that suddenly my daughter who has been a blessing all along for us and has really filled our lives with so much joy is not enough for me. Sorry for unloading all this here. I hope I have not upset any of you by my ranting.
Best of luck to all of us.

kaffywaffy · 16/07/2009 19:41

Pat42 I know I am a newbie, but I am sure I speak for everyone on here by saying "rant away!" - that is why we are here - to support and be supported through what is a very difficult time.
Personally speaking now, I believe in a God of love, not punishment.
Your daughter is, and always will be, a joy... but there is nothing wrong with wanting more.
Best of luck to you too.

kaffywaffy · 16/07/2009 19:46

Oh yes, meant to say that eyedrops are an extremely effective way of getting things into the bloodstream avoiding all those nasty stomach acids.

rowingboat · 16/07/2009 23:10

Pat, there is nothing to explain to us, we understand the craziness and obsessing that accompanies the desire for children.
I haven't come to the point where I accept that my gorgeous little boy is my only child, but I feel it's lurking round the corner for us. When that time comes I think it will be very difficult, it's so hard to give up on the dream. And just when you think you have given up, you find you haven't after all.

Angifi · 17/07/2009 01:51

Hi ladies.I'm not really a regular here, but love reading the thread and seeing how things are. I have just got home from a week and a half away.We went north (Broome and DArwin, Aust,) to the sunshine. 30 -32 degrees celcius every day, bliss!Worth a visit, it was glorious.

I'm not actively ttc at the mo, cos of the breastfeeding of Charlie, and still no AF (he's 11 months).But I'm not actively preventing either, so we'll see.I am hoping to find time for acupuncture soon, to tune up the bod.

I had a psychic reading done (just for fun), she does lots of readings relating to conception and pregnancy, anyway, she says she see a bfp between Nov and Jan.She has been right with heaps of other people I know. I sound like a right dill, but it really is for fun, and if she's right, I'll be happy!If you're interested her website is [email protected]
If you order the cheapest reading, you'll get it right away, a longer reading takes ages, so I ordered both!
Sorry, it sounds like I am advertising, but I'm really not.
Good luck with ivf Rowing.
Kaffy I am new to mumsnet too, and at first was really amazed by how nasty some people can be, it has never been my experience on other forums, but I think mumsnet is an amazing source of information and advice, and I just love reading the "Am I being Unreasonable" thread.It's like a competitive sport sometimes!
This thread is super supportive, so good to see you aren't going away.
All the best for all the ttcers.
Angie

rowingboat · 17/07/2009 12:46

Hi Angi that's great news about the bfing your son. I bf'd until my DS was three! He wasn't really bothering everyday by the time he was three, just the odd thirty second feed at night and then he just seemed to forget and that was that. Then straight away he picked up loads of bugs and was ill for ages.

It's day four of the pill for me and I'm not doing so well on the giving up caffeine this time. I'm off coffee, but I'm drinking tea: around two cups a day.
But I'm tired if I don't have it! Pooo!

tetleytea · 17/07/2009 13:20

Hi All!

Good to "see" you all. Never get a chance to come on much nowadays so grabbing 5 mins.

Feeling a bit thwarted at the moment. AF is definitely on its way. I got in touch with my "old friend" gynae who i've been seeing for a few months to go and take her some blood test results and talk about loads of things ...and got a text back to say she was in norway for 3 weeks(!) She didn't even mention the fact she was going when i saw her 10 days ago . This means we're not going to cross paths again till september because i'm going off to london....unbelievable. I'm supposed to be going on Puregon next month and i don't have a clue about it....I feel quite lost, and it makes me realise how desperately important it is for me to do everything i can to ttc each month....2 months is such a huge amount of time to let go by...anyway sorry for the rant. This ttc business is making me feel very vulnerable...

rowingboat · 17/07/2009 13:40

Hi Tetley. Oh poor you, it's frustrating to 'waste' months isn't it!
I did a quick google on Puregon and it looks like a synthetic FSH. Are you being monitored/scanned to check you don't overstimulate?

fruitbowl · 18/07/2009 09:25

Rant alert:

AF sodding well turned up CD38. Really, really thought this was it . 2 months left of clomid. Kind of thinking what's the point?... Had a cry and now trying to compose myself for our short break to Pembrokeshire and make the most of our hol with lovely DD - who I'm now thinking is a miracle child.

Hope you're all feeling less wretched. xx

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rowingboat · 18/07/2009 17:47

Oh Fruit, that is rubbish! Did you test at all? I'm wondering whether it was a CP?
Go and enjoy your holiday and take your mind off of all this TTC stress.
Sending you a gigantic hug and a little boy kiss from my DS (it's a bit dribbly).

fruitbowl · 18/07/2009 23:46

Cheers Rowing - you're a v kind and attentive bird! & ta to your lovely DS for dribbles!

Thanks for asking but no it wasn't a CP as had BFN the day before and it's usual for me to show up in tests at this point (such a veteran I am having had 4 pgs now!) I read up that the clomid can really f*@k with your cycle so I'm putting it down to that. Gonna stock up on booze n choc for hols! Have also applied for a social worker to visit re adoption as we need to think about moving on...

How are you feeling on your pills?

Soz if I don't reply for a few days, am off in morning xx

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tetleytea · 19/07/2009 11:01

Fruit really sorry to hear the witch got you...it's so horrible to feel your hopes building up and up as the days go by...Big virtual hug to you. Af arrived for me today and i intend to hit the aperitifs with a vengeance tonight... I raise a virtual G&T to you in advance.

rowing - thanks for sympathy - crikey what would i do without you lot...! No i won't be monitored at all with the puregon (the dose is 50 so apparently it's low and not risky....)- i feel very on my own! It's all very DIY seeing this gynae "friend", and it just feels like proof of how desperate i'm getting that i'm going to have daily injections of this stuff without knowing what's going on...I'm flying to london next week with dd so can't really see anyone there unless i go private....Think I'd better save the ££ for when i get truly desperate....

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