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Feisty & Fabulous at 40+ - the continuing adventures of TTC

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fruitbowl · 24/04/2009 20:32

Erm hope this will do as a continuation thread. Hello to anyone new to the thread. All welcome... xx

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KiwiKat · 13/06/2009 21:38

I'm in London - have always wanted to visit Edinburgh, I've heard it's really beautiful and full of history.

vonsudenfed · 13/06/2009 22:12

I used to be in London, but we've decamped to the south west - Somerset to be precise!

Rockdoctor · 14/06/2009 09:16

Hi everyone - just a quick catch up here as we seem to be having a hectic time this weekend. Have only really scanned the recent posts so sorry if I'm missing anything.

Grownup - I'm so sorry to hear what happened. As you say, at least you know now that you can conceive which has to be a good starting point to move forward. Its hard with your family so far away - I lived downunder for many years and loved it by the way. Would seriously think of going back. We're in the south east now.

No sign of AF here , not sure what that means but if nothing happens will be testing early next week. Wish me luck.

rowingboat · 14/06/2009 17:57

Woo Rock that sounds exciting! When next week???
Kiwi, I love it here, we originally lived in Ilford, which I do remember fondly because there were so many parks near us, but I can't see myself leaving Edinburgh. Wouldn't mind a holiday home next door to GPS though!
Do you like living in London?
VSF what do you think of Somerset?
We were down in Devon a few years ago and passed through Somerset, it looked lovely.
You won't believe today: I was just getting ready to go out and meet a friend when the phone went and it was a nurse at the fertility clinic. She was wondering if we wanted to come in for our nurse consultation on Friday. I started babbling and totally confused the poor woman, but the upshot is we are going on Friday. I was standing in the bathroom in my bra and pants when DP handed me the phone.
Can't believe it's started again so soon.
Had a lovely afternoon with a friend and her two boys, one is only teeny, and so cute.

dixie64 · 14/06/2009 20:02

Hello everyone

My name's Sandra and I'm from Warwickshire

x

Angifi · 15/06/2009 02:44

Hi, it's angie here, i've been reading along and finaly able to post(with sleeping child on my lap,hence poor use of capitals etc).
vonsudenfed asked about taking stuff for hormones, i took red clover tablets in the first half of my cycle when i was ttc my son.it is supposed to help when estrogen is dropping (when we become perimenopausal).I didn't have the eggwhite cervical mucus anymore,so used preseed, but also thought the red clover would help.
i really trust the power of acupuncturetoo,i did it for a year before i got thebfp . i read a book called the infertlity cure by randine lewis.i just loved her attitude to older motherhood - that it really is possible if our bodies are at their best.i must have read it three times over the years ttc.It is very hopeful and lead me to trying acupuncture.I am going to start acupuncture again, so that when i start ovulating again i can maybe try for a sibling for Charlie.
I wish I lived in europe - it is so far to visit the places you talk about.though can;t complain - i live in a very beautiful part of australia (south coast).
i hope i can join in a bit more often.
Do any of you do yoga? I do a bit, and I've heard it also can help fertility?any thoughts?

Rockdoctor · 15/06/2009 09:42

Hi everyone, well still no sign of AF but did a test this morning and it was BFN so not sure what's going on. No other symptoms to speak of so just hoping things start moving in the next day or so.

rowingboat · 15/06/2009 10:38

Hi Angifi lucky you living somewhere so beautiful. I agree with taking steps at our age, I have red clover in the cupboard, but I'm not sure whether to take it, because I seem to be slightly prone to cysts so I don't want to alter my oestrogen levels too much.
I have been drinking raspberry leaf tea with lady's mantle both of which are supposed to be uterine tonics - trying to heal after the last IVF.
I also take folic acid 400mg, and co-enzyme q10, which is supposed to improve egg quality.
Totally, join in whenever. I have also heard certain poses in yoga are good for fertility, not that I ever get around to doing yoga.
Rock, oo, how odd, try again Wednesday???

rainbowdays · 16/06/2009 10:42

Hi all, I am coming back to you. not that I am sad to be coming back to you, you are all great, but still hurting from m/c-ing.
I am still currently technically pg, at 9 weeks today. but my hcg levels are falling although painfully slowly. Last week they were 1024, yesterday they were 660, so instead of halving in 48 hours as they are supposed to do, they are not even half in a week, I guess this m/c is going to take some time to do.
It is my third m/c in the last 7 months, I seem to be able to get pg but not stay pg. But I did not help myself this time by reading a stupid statistic that the miscarriage rate for pg of women over 45 is 50% - who hates statistics around here - me definitely.

So since I am still m/c-ing, it will be a while before I get to ttc again. Have to wait and see. I have just had phone call from hospital, they are not going to monitor my hcg levels going down now, they will just wait til next period and I have to do test then to check it is negative . But was also offered blood tests for me and dh due to this being third consecutive m/c. Not sure if I want to do this or not, what do you all think, is it worth it at our age? Or just keep hoping and praying an ttc?

rowingboat · 16/06/2009 15:36

Rainbow, I'm sorry to hear about the hcg levels.
TTC is so tough as you get older it gets harder and harder whether you have no pg or do have pg and then mc. However, there are quite a few people who have successfully given birth after a number of miscarriages, it probably depends on your tolerance for the whole thing. It is great news that you can conceive, you may just need a helping hand.
I think, get blood tests because you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
I hope you are getting a lot of support to help you cope with this situation, it sounds awful.

KiwiKat · 16/06/2009 22:44

Am on the second round of clomid, and went for a scan yesterday. I halved the dose this month to one a day, and STILL have managed to produce four eggs or follicles or whatever they are. So they've asked me to go in for another scan tomorrow morning to see what's going on - but I've already decided that I don't have any more time to waste and we're going to go for it no matter what he says. Time is a-ticking. So there.

rowingboat · 16/06/2009 23:23

I don't blame you Kiwi. I'm not sure what they will say, but they can't all fertilise and some will be dodgy statistically, so with any luck you will be left with a good 'un.
Have fun!

KiwiKat · 16/06/2009 23:44

Well, you know what I'm like, Rowing - I hum and I ha and I'll probably change my mind. Wish I knew what my body thought it was doing though.

KiwiKat · 17/06/2009 12:58

Just had second scan, and found out that two follicles are growing and the other two are not doing anything much, so he said that there was still a risk of having a multiple conception, but that we could go for it. I nearly kissed him - I would LOVE to have twins. Or just one!

And I've just bought my first ovulation kit - I just couldn't get my head around that thing you put on your tongue - so as soon as I get a smiley face, it'll be BD Arizona! You'll be able to hear the screams all the way up to your place, Rowing.

Hope you're all having nice Wednesdays. x

(Apologies to anyone who is on the Clomid thread, who will see this same post.)

rowingboat · 17/06/2009 13:11

Eh, what do you do with your tongue? It's not one of those fern microscopes is it?
Let me know and I'll put in my earplugs Kiwi.

KiwiKat · 17/06/2009 21:56

Yep, a fern microscope. It confounded me.

fruitbowl · 17/06/2009 23:09

me just catching up on the thread and saying hi to all the gorgeous birds on ere! Aren't we great? Sorry some of you are feeling down. Hope you're doing ok.

Nothing to report here except went out and got trollied with some old friends last weekend and bloody well enjoyed myself. Had forgotten what fun was due to staying hyealthy and just in case etc etc. It was MARVELLOUS!

How's everyone?

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fifitot · 18/06/2009 17:38

OK and debating whether to BD tonight. Got a neg OPK but think OV is due next couple of days so should get one in I suppose but still undecided if continuing and a bit knackered as DD up at 5am this morning....

KiwiKat · 19/06/2009 13:41

How is everyone? It's been quiet on here for a couple of days, and I misss you all!

Good on you for partying a bit, Fruit. I've forgotten what that's like - just one wine gets me squiffy now. I used to be able to drink a lot and party till the end, but no longer.

Did you BD last night, Fifi?

Ooh, got a smiley face on the OPK - the first time I've used one, so TONIGHT's the night. Put your earplugs in, Rowing. Wish us luck, everyone.

vonsudenfed · 19/06/2009 14:00

afternoon all,

sorry, have been insanely busy and keep meaning to post and then it doesn't happen.

Rainbowdays, really sorry to hear that. I've just had the blood tests and I think it is worth doing, even if just to rule out clotting disorder (Hughes Syndrome) which can cause m/c and can be easily dealt with. I think after 3 it is worth looking into. How are you feeling now?

Kiwi - glad you're going for it. My feeling about multiples and Clomid (we're thinking about it now, see below) is that my eggs are currently so iffy that I'm not getting much joy out of them, so even if I do ovulate massively on Clomid, odds are that only one of them, if that, would be OK. I may live to regret that statement, though (and don't blame me if you have triplets!). Are you being seen privately, or is it just the joy of London hospitals (I very much doubt I will get anywhere near a scan if I go on Clomid!)

Fruitbowl, glad to hear about the trollying, we could all do with a bit of that, I think.

Dixie, where abouts in Warwickshire are you (ish). Stratford was one of my teenage stomping grounds, and my dad still lives in the area.

And hello Angifi, I'll look into the red clover, thanks.

Aaaanyway, I went to the doctor and got the full rundown on my hormones. FSH is 11.5, which isn't so bad, but the good news is that my progesterone is so fine and perky that she's a bit worried about putting me on Clomid, because there would be a much higher than average risk of multiples (although she did say I looked as though I could cope...). So we're going to have another day 21 test to see if that is my normal level and then decide. But I think we will go for Clomid, for the reasons I've said above.

So, no change for the moment, just keep trying...

rowingboat · 19/06/2009 17:53

Hi all,
good luck tonight Kiwi, fingers crossed.
Fifi, so what happened last night, hm!?!?!?!
VSF, hiii, big wave!
So you might be joining the ranks of the clomid ladies - I think there is a thread somewhere.
We have just returned from our pre-treatment chat at the local IVF clinic.
Bloomin' nurse took blood for that dreaded AMH test, I am quaking. Waah!
She reckoned that we would be likely to be advised to wait for three months to elapse between last IVF and fresh cycle, which means September. Oh joy, the very busiest time of year at work, but on the plus side a lovely big heap of new annual leave starts in September, so at least I shouldn't have to worry about taking time off.
So will hear about the AMH next week - do I really want to know. [covers ear and shuts eyes, whilst singing loudly]
Rainbow, that sounds like excellent advice re the clotting issues, it would be great if there were a quick fix to increase stickiness.

fifitot · 19/06/2009 20:11

I didn't do it but did it tonight as test showed I was near ovulation - starting to get darker. I usually OV around day 16 and it's that tomorrow.

I must be mad. Every month I say I'm going to pack in and the don't!

KiwiKat · 19/06/2009 22:44

It's addictive, this ttc thing ... We've just bd'd, so will do it again tomorrow and the next day to raise the chances. Romance has long gone out the window!

Hope you've all got something nice planned for the weekend.

rowingboat · 20/06/2009 18:09

Get the metronomes out Kiwi and Fifi, that always helps with the bding - gets those fellas in the mood!

KiwiKat · 20/06/2009 23:22

Hmm, didn't handle this one particularly well. We had a raging fight this evening, over dishes and housework, would you believe, resulting in sulking and hostile politeness on both sides, and absolutely no bd at all. Am so cross that our foolishness may have cost us the chance to have a baby, I could slap us both. Well, him first, of course. I'm not sure if the pressure of all of this contributed to the fight, but I'm guessing so. On the plus side, I've now finished my overdue assignment for uni. Sigh ...

How's everyone else? Any news? Fifi, Vonsuden, Fruit, Rowing, Dixie and all you other lovely ladies - hope you're having a better Saturday night than me.

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