July/August baby threads, where are you now? Wishing, Sunnydale, Homeinthesun, Headfairy, Bubble, etc..

[Issy42]

Please don't be offended if you're not named, you're still welcome, I just have a rubbish memory. I can see a couple of you on November thread but there's a whole load of people not there. Just wondering if you wanted a little thread to keep in touch?

Headfairy - just replied to you on grapefruit thread. So sorry about your sad news. Was hoping a new thread might provide you with support from old friends.

And Sunnydale, I know you're wary of new threads, so though you might also like the company of old friends.

Wishing and Bubble having your weird long cycles and missing whole month's threads, thought this might be one for you too.

So what do you say? I'll start a list just in case:

Issy, ttc#1, cycle 14, ucl 28ish, cd 23/10dpo, mc Mar08, cp Sep08, IVF in April.

Thanks blue and girl, i just dont think its true coz i dont think ive ovud yet this cycle. my cycle is all over the place and if it was +ive it would be too good to be true iykwim.

i will let you know in morn what result is but like i said i think it was a fluke. dh says he can only just see the line

Oh bubble, keeping fingers crossed for you, I hope you get a stronger line tomorrow. Perhaps you haven't ov'd because you're up the duff?

Bluesatin.... sorry to hear the terrible 2s have arrived, I think I got my first taster this afternoon, ds spent the last ten mins of our walk bawling his eyes out, absolutely nothing would console him, he was just in a foul mood. I had to giggle, the sight of him stamping his feet really made me laugh. Poor thing, he doesn't realise his mummy's totally immune to tantrums (so far!)

ooooh bubblebell it would be magic if you are, really hoping the first test was right and the line a "real" one- fingers crossed for the next test! How is your chest today?

No romantic gestures planned here for tomorrow either- DH doesn't have a romantic bone in his body- but I did know that pretty much from when I met him! But he is sweet in all sorts of other ways, very considerate- I'd rather have a man like that than one who doesn't bother most of the time but is flamboyantly (sp?!) romantic occasionally. Saying that a few flowers would never go amiss- but we have promised we're not "doing" valentine's tomorrow so of course not expecting anything! In fact he might be taking DCs to MILs so I can work tomorrow eve (although, awful as it sounds, an uninterrupted night of sleep all on my own would be wonderful!!)
Hope you all have a lovely Valentine's/weekend anyhow! (and enjoy BDing in the non-BDing sense!)

bluesatinsash I took low-dose aspirin throughout my second pregnancy (but due to a history of severe pre-eclampsia- and on advice of a consultant of course!) and it definitely made all the difference in terms of keeping us healthy and getting nearly to term. Brilliant stuff!
We are also suffering with the terrible 2s here, though at the early stage (DD is 19mo, but I swear started tantrumming the moment she hit 1yo!)- funnily we had an easy(ish) time with DS so are fairly unprepared- I resorted to reading a few books and tying a few "methods" of soothing her meltdown moments and we are finding ways around it a bit better now, and definitely her mood is always worse (like us all) when tired/hungry/sore (teething at the mo doesn't help!) so I've had to become very strict on our daily routine (which I used to hate!). Whenever my two seem to be having an "emotionally fragile/volatile" day I have found being outdoors helps enormously (but maybe that's more from my sanity's perspective than theirs!!)

Headfairy I haven't even read the instructions on my OPKs yet - when are you meant to use them each day? I was planning to start mine around CD10 as I have a 26-28day cycle, but DH is going to be away for work on CD11 & 12 so not sure whether to bother as it'll just make me frustrated if those are the days I get a positive result! Not that I'm cycle watching, honestly!!

Oh Bubble, I realy hope you are, let us know as soon as you test. Fingers crossed x

Fingers crossed for tomorrow Bubble

Hi all,

thanks girls but this morn my test was negative. no matter how long i squint at the test i cant see a line. there is still a faint line on the other 1 tho. it annoys me that this could happen esp when ttc is so painfull you dont need false hope. DH said to try a better quality test tomorrow morn but i said that there is no point wasting money.

my blood test results are back. i asked the receptionist to read the figures but syupidly didnt right them down. vaguely i think LH was 10.5 FSH 7 and i cant remember what what progesterone was but the gp has asked me to go in and discuss it monday pm. they said that it suggests im in the lutel phase.. which would mean ive ovd is progesterone not detected before ov then?? i will check with gp but wondered if anyone knew so i dont google the results and find that i have actually turned into a man

DH hasnt got me a pressie but he did give me breakfast in bed.

hope your all well and feeling better than me

Oh bubble honey, that's rotten. I do hope it's just a duff test or if you're in your luteal phase then perhaps it's too early and the hormones are still rising.

I've had the LH/FSH hormone tests done and I'm afraid they didn't give me the figures, they just said it was all normal. I'm fairly sure you get a progesterone surge after ovulation, in preparation for pregnancy. Progesterone can mimic pre pregnancy symptoms, causing nausea and sore boobs, which is why you often get them before af arrives, but you can also get them if you are pg (which a really cruel trick for nature to play on us!), then if at about 10-14 dpo the body doesn't detect a fertilised implanted egg the progesterone levels fall and af arrives. If I remember... I could be wrong and I'm happy to be corrected if anyone knows better. I've always ignored any symptoms in the 2ww because I've always assumed it was the progesterone surge that was causing them, perhaps I've been wrong all this time!

I hope you enjoyed your breakfast in bed, I'm very of you, I didn't even get that, ds woke up at 5.50, I finally relented and got out of bed at 6.15. So nice as I have to work until 11pm tonight I hope you enjoy the rest of your Valentine's day.

Happy Valentine's day to everyone else too xxxx (non sexual Valentine's kisses )

Thanks head, i think my LH and FSH are normal too. progesterone was only 5 iirc. not sure if thats too low. i dont feel pregnant. i still feel really ill. if i did ov before i had the blood tests then af should be here within the week. but after the upset this weekend. im throwing out all opks and not temping at all just goin back to bdin as much as poss.

How is everyone?

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Oh that's good, I presume that means you're ovulating normally, even if you're cycles seem a little wacky at the moment.

I think giving up the microscopic examination of your cycle is a very good thing personally, I feel very liberated at the moment. On the 2ww and I've barely thought about it, in fact this is the first time in aaages. It's the only way to be, because at the end of it all you've still got only one life and to spend it on this up and down rollercoaster ttc treadmill, 2 weeks up and 2 weeks down is terribly wearying. You can still ttc without making your life miserable.

That's just what I think anyway I hope you feel better soon x

morning everyone.

well im sorry to bore you more with the am i pregnant saga but this morn i did my last ebay cheapie so i could tell the dr i wasnt pg and its positive. darker than before but still not as dark as control line. it came up quickly, straight away, a faint line. im pleased to say the least but extreamly confused and worried. on my other thread about progesterone levels they think that such a low level may mean i didnt ovulate and i know from being on mumsnet that low progesterone can be a cause of miscarriage

Hi Bubble, that sounds like tentative very good news. As far as I am aware, if there is a line, however faint, then you are pregnant, and if you are preg, then you MUST have ovulated. If you let your gp know that you are worried about mc due to your low progesterone levels, can they give you something. I'm sorry, I can't remember, but has your doctor expressed concern about low progesterone?

Oh Bubble, that does sound exciting, fingers crossed the doctor can reassure you and you can start celebrating...

ps, was SOOOO tempted to poas this morning, but didn't. Please headfairy, help me get through this ignoring my cycle. I'm obv. nowhere near as good at it, as you and really need some help. I LOVE the idea in theory, i just can't do it in practice. AF isn't even due for four days, so please tell me how to take my mind off it and the cheap tests that are just asking to be peed on... x Twig

thanks twig

Can u try and imagine the tests asking to be used in a foreign language.. 1 that you dont understand?

i think my progesterone level was 5 but im not sure so will check with dr today.

ive been so upset this weekend with the tests changing from + to - and back to + again that i think you should try and wait the 4 days atleast

Hi ladies,
Are you all loved up then??!
So what did you all do on St Val's night? My DH is a bit of romantic really - and a great cook Huge bunch of flowers and chocs in the morning and steak au poivre in the evening. It was lush. Although DH did have to waken me to come and get it cos I'd fallen asleep with DS! . No champers either; it would have been nice but I wasn't bothered.
Bubble, I think its sounds as if you are indeed pg - sounds like you are where I was exactly this time last week, squinting at lines! Read my neurotic posts last week.
Best of luck to you at the docs; I hope I'm right. Let us know how you get on.

Hello Gateau as well. Lovely Valentine's Day treats!

Bubble, you are absolutely right, that is what I'll think of, the horrid roller coaster you're going through with +, then -, then + results - it must be terrible for you. Are you meant to be feeling overjoyed, or miserable, poor you. Thank you for putting it into perspective for me and SO hoping that the GP can confirm a preg for you.

lol at preg tests calling me in a different language

Bubble I hope the docs are able to put your mind at ease WRT the progesterone levels. I think a line that's increasingly dark is a good sign, to me that means your hormone levels are rising. I'm keeping everything crossed for you.

Twiglet (I think we can call you that as the original Twiglet has left to become a Moldie ) all I can say is throw those tests away. Never mind the expense. It's like when you give up smoking (don't know if you ever have) you have to throw away all your ciggies now matter how much they cost. The same with tests. I don't have any in the house, then there's no temptation. Snap them all in two, treat it like a liberating ceremony. That's all I can suggest. I have absolutely no will power about anything. I even have to ban biscuits and crisps from the house because I am rubbish at not eating them. I've been known to throw away whole cakes to avoid me picking at them. Mind you, to look at me you'd never think that

I'm sorry I can't be more helpful than that! Whereabouts are you? Shall I come over there and snap them for you? It would be my pleasure, all that snapping is very therapeutic

Gateau - sounds like you had a lovely St Valentine's day. I was working sadly, but we had a nice meal on Friday night, with a bottle of fizz (hahahahahaha gotta be some advantages to being barren ) It wasn't so bad working actually, very quiet, and I didn't have to start until 3pm so I was able to spend most of the day with dh and ds, all I missed out on was the bath and bedtime. I'm off all week again, I've had some really odd shifts recently, this week I'm only working 12 hours, the week before last I did over 60 hours, and next week I'm back to 50 hours! I'd rather it was a bit more even but it's nice having a week off.

I've got the estate agent's photographer coming round at 2 today, so I've got some major shoving things into cupboards tidying up to do! I'm off to wash my windows, have a lovely day everyone

Thank you Wise Woman Headfairy. I do completely understand the giving up smoking analogy as went through hell a few times before permanently stopping smoking, however, can't quite bring myself to throw the little sticks away, so am going to try will power this cycle and remember Wise Woman Bubble's sage words. (in fact the thought that I have to destroy them all otherwise, might just do the trick - thank you)

Good luck with the sweeping things under the rug tidying. Have you found a new house to buy? Are you moving anywhere exciting?

ps what's a moldie/mouldie??

(hmm, why doesn't my striking out not work?)

On the subject of Twiglets why can't you get the curry ones or the spicy ones any more? I LOVED them!

twiglet you have to put the dash thingys before and after every word... i think???

could be wrong (will c when i click post)

Oh bubble how frustrating, bet you are all over the place. Still keeping everything crossed for you!

Hi all just popping on because am shitting myself about twiglettini's post re defective sperm. My DP does drink more than he should. Is the word on the street that this is the most common reason for defective sperm?

oh dear - DP is such a 'bon viveur' and i can't face waiting 3 months for him to detox before hopping back on again.

and breathe out

Twiglet... How about giving the HPTs to your dh to look after, get him to take them to work or put them somewhere you can't get them easily if you can't face destroying them and find yourself weakening. Tell him, he can't give you a test unless you are a week late! Good luck, you're being very determined!

Moldie = Mumsnet Oldie... a few mumsnetters who'd been on here for ages set up a private, invitation only forum of their own and have decamped there. Has caused much upset on here, I'm not bothered but some felt very hurt they weren't invited by people they thought were friends. Twiglet is I think a Moldie. Not sure though...

Sifuentes, not sure about what sort of level of drinking you have to reach before it starts to affect sperm.It is one of those things they always mention, along with smoking, that can affect sperm. Would your dp hate giving up for a few months? I wouldn't bother waiting for the three months to pass if he does give up drinking. I'd still ttc, because you never know, you might get a good 'un before then.

Well I'm feeling very smug, I have absolutely blitzed the house since I spoke to you last. I was like a woman possessed. It's now sparkling, got a lovely hour and a bit until the photographer gets here so I can relax and mumsnet do something constructive

Good work headfairy, fancy doing mine next?
twiglet goodluck with not poas... i have actually got a lot better recently, mostly because i understand my cycle better, but still do find it hard especially as my cycle seems to be getting longer and longer, so I am always "late"... grrr

Not a chance girl Got myself a nice bar of G&B butterscotch choc as a treat, I'm going to sit down and have some lunch now... am shattered.