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Over here ladies! Will try and link to here.

HC
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FF has a dotted line so it isn't completely sure. I think it may change the date. Get your jim jams on and we'll start a fresh day tomorrow.

Watching the Ice Dancing results then I'm offski to bed.

HC
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Morning ladies

Fresh day today-how is everyone? DD1 back at school so peace is upon us. Bless her.

Love to all

HC
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Good morning ladies

Don't worry MJIM I think yesterday got out of control, hormones a flying !!!! We musnt disband for all the reasons you mentioned, i find myself laughing out loud, crying & worrying too

HC FF can't detect any ovulation today, the red line has dissapeared !! Mind you, ive been taking my temp at lots of different times as DH has me up and down like a bloody yo-yo through night !!

Talking about DH....Hospital has just phoned, they want him in at 8am tomorrow to put him to sleep (not like the dog!!) and inject a local into his 'hip' bone and we will then find out what is to happen next...I hope they find a way to help, Dr Ions talked about fusing the femur to the pelvis, but this meens DH will never walk again yet he would never be in pain again !! What a dilema, emotions are running on an all time high in this house (bungalow).

As for me, im still getting craming and spots with bloody stress & lack of sleep !!!

Much love and lets keep chatting

D xx

Hey all,

I haven't been online all weekend so I was quite alarmed when I read the latest posts, I hope that everyone is feeling a little better now.

CE, well done for sticking your neck out hun, I think your suggestion was brilliant and frankly, I don't mind where I have to post, as long as we are all together!!

HC, a nice peaceful household for you today then hun?! Has the MS eased at all? Gosh, I can't believe you're over 8 weeks already - that is amazing!! I can't believe how time is flying!! Little Jelly is 25 weeks on Wednesday and is certainly making herself known.

MJIM, How's little Naomi been over the weekend? Is she sleeping a little better now? How are the colds?

Ceebee, oh lucky you!! I can only dream that Jelly will be as well-behaved as Sam!! How wonderful for you, especially now Josh has calmed down aswell - peace is reigning over Ceebee's house!!!

Belgiand and Dawni, I hope that you're both feeling a little better today.

Dawni, good on your DH for working through the pain, it must be really hard for him.

Waves to Mandy and Juanitad. Only 21 days now Mandy, how exciting!!

I have to confess that when I first got PG this time, I did pop over to an antenatal thread briefly, but there was so many ladies on there that it was very impersonal and even quite bitchy at times. It didn't have the "comfort blanket" type atmosphere that this place has. I think that's why I haven't moved off permanently. I wonder whether that's why all the other PG ladies stay too... This thread is non-judgemental and so friendly and supportive, it's really really helped me, particularly through the MC and the CVS/Amnio issues. So if you do move somewhere - just make sure we all know where!!

So anyway, thought I'd give you all a giggle. I had my first completely irrational sobbing fit on Saturday evening over the silliest thing. I decided to have Nachos for tea (something I love...) and DH had taken the dog out for a walk and I wanted it ready for when he got home. But I couldn't open the salsa jar. It took me ages and I was virtually crying with frustration, when I finally managed it. However, as it undid, the jar slipped from my hands and landed, right-side up on the floor with a bang. The salsa went EVERYWHERE!!! Believe me, I am not exaggerating!! It was on the ceiling, on the wall, on the fridge, all over the oven, all over the kitchen units, in my hair, in my eyes, all over my clothes, all over the floor, literally everywhere.

When DH got home, he found me stood in the middle of the kitchen, surrounded by salsa, sobbing my heart out!!! But he was brilliant, he cleaned it all up, gave me a big hug and sent me upstairs for a shower while he finished the dinner. What a gem!! We can laugh about it now, but I didn't find it funny at the time!! What topped it off though, was that when we got out the sour cream and guacamole, the guacamole (that we'd bought fresh from Asda that morning) was off!! The plastic seal wasn't sealed!! So it was a bit of a disaster really!!

So, how many of you can see that you've colourfully decorated your kitchen with Salsa??!!

Hope everyone's Ok.

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Hi DawnAS Poor you, sounds funny now to read it but it certainly would'nt have been funny at the time, did'nt the dog want to lick it all up ?? Im afraid things got a bit out of hand at the weekend, hopefully we are all sorted now, i would hate for you all to leave to another thread, it has been a megga help for me in such low times through the month. I panicked at the thought of just a few of us TTCers being left, when all you ladies have a huge knowledge of all things womanly and keep me us sane and stop me us from going off the rails If you do start another thread, please dont leave here xx

D xx

good god women we cannot leave this thread!

I do realise there are times when it is hard when you are TTC and all you hear is baby talk. Something similar happened on the ARC email group I belong to but the resolution was still that everyone should stay on one email group. I remember when I had had my termination and was in limbo before I could try to get pregnant again, it was torture reading about the pregnancies on ARC but at the same time I still needed the email group for support

HC I was so glad DD is going back to school today. I am nackered!

Dawn-hope the kitchen is now salsa free.

Hi guys,

I'm here...I'm here!! I'm not leaving...although with a two year wait for IVF I did wonder whether to take a sabatical! Esp as I've been so busy and distracted of late! But even if I'm not getting PG, I love you guys!!! So...we all have to stay! And PG ladies and ladies with babies and small people...guys - we really do want you to share! It's what we are all here for. Yes...sometimes it is hard. But I've missed hearing about growing bumps and funny PG stories (Dawn - the salsa story is funny! I think I would have cried though too and I'm not PG!! )

Anyhow I realise I am very late in posting this and it's all blown over...but I still wanted to say as a TTCer, I love having everyone around and hearing all the news!

Anyhow, my news is that after the bad news on Thursday, we went for dinner at our close friends on Friday...where they announced they were PG! I kinda had an idea and i was worried I'd burst into tears and leave...but I did really well. Both DH and I were pretty much knocked for 6 though. We had planned to stay over and get trashed with them, but I couldn't and we went home. Saturday I had an awful day...it was as though the realisation hit home.

The only way I can describe it, is like a massive sense of loss...your whole life you believe you will do the life thing...grow up, get a job, get marry, have children, watch them grow up and have families of their own. It's like your whole future (or at least how you'd pictured your future) is just wiped out.

Anyhow, I am still trying to process...yes private IVF might be an option (but I am angry that that's something we even have to consider frankly!).

Anyhow, I'm boring myself with the me me me!

I'm not going to try to do a catch up now...just will try to post more and hold hands with Dawni and BB and the other TTCers!

Bluestar x

Hello again,

Dawni, I think the important thing about close-knit threads like these, is that even when we do get BFPs, things don't always go according to plan and the wealth of experience on here, gives us the support to "see the wood for the trees". Several of us have been through MCs or worrying scan/test results, problems with new-borns or illness and everyone on here can now say that they are a little more informed than they once were. I have to say, that if it wasn't for HC, I wouldn't know anything about temping or CM or anything else, hell, I thought you BDd and hey presto - a baby - and I'm 34!! This thread has turned into so much more than a TTC thread. We can support TTCers, MCers, new mothers, problem babies AND toddlers and form fast friendships.

Your feelings are totally totally understandable and the nice thing is that you can be honest about them on here and no-one would ever judge you. You can be envious and sad for others BFPs, because we've all been there and even if we don't admit it, that is how we feel. And like with HC, when you get yours, there'll be tears of joy all around.

To the other extreme mums can come on and whinge about sleepless nights (this is a warning that I will do that - I like my 8 hours!!) or their naughty children without feeling guilty because they should be grateful that they have them. Everyone is different and everyone needs support and that is the one thing that each and every person on this thread provides.

So, Dawni, the bottom line is, wherever you guys are, that's where I'll be, even if we have to hop onto different threads at times if we want something more specific, this is the safe haven that we are all drawn back to...

I don't know whether this post has been more for your benefit or mine!! But I just wanted to put down in writing, what I've felt about all the ladies on here for some time.

I've now finished my cadbury's creme egg and really should get on with some work!! If I can find any.... things are a little quiet!!

Hugs and kisses to all the Bonkers ladies!!

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Bluestar-bet you just wanted to leave when you heard the news. Well done for keeping it together. 2 years does seem such a long time.

Dawni-I suspected FF would remove you line. You will get it back though. Your poor DH though-what a difficult thing to deal with.

Having poo problems with DD2 who has developed an aversion to weeing/pooing in her nappy. Then she took it off and pooed on the lounge carpet. Not good when you feel so sick. She can't get the hang of using the potty and confuses wees and poos.

HC
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DawnAS You are so right, i am often a little blinded by my own selfishness and i also have a short fuse, but i will tell you how i feel as i wear my heart on my sleeve, DH says i open my mouth and my brains fly out !!! I also dont always read things through properly, then get all het up and type before thinking
This thread is just amazing and it was HC who befriended me 1st on another thread and brought me to this one, for which i will be eternally greatful, she has also learned me so much over the months and has had great patients with me asking stupid questions. I am also a very paranoid person and think everything is my fault, and what i touch never turns to gold !! 'Jesus' you must be thinking im a real nutter !!!
Anyways....thats that and i really do love you girls to bits, warts and all as they say {sorry i went on} I would never cope without you girls and this thread to sound of to xx

HC Sorry hun but your DD2's pooping brought a smile to my face, i remember Michael toddling into the kitchen one day calling for me, when i looked around he had a poop in his hand, he looked at me with a big smile and said 'here mammy', so innocent xx

Gotta huge pile of ironing

Much love

D xx

Oh Bluestar sorry i forgot to post You were very brave hun, i would have crumpled. 2 Years is such a long time to wait, and i know you shouldnt have to go private, but for your own sanity, is it an option ???

D xx

Hey Bluestar,

Sorry for Xposts!! Honey, you bloody be "me me me" if you want to (not that you are!!!), you have every right to be upset, I just wish (like we probably all do) that we could take this pain and worry away from you.

Dawni, you're not selfish at all, you're upset and you're worried!!

HC, must ask, who went out of Dancing on Ice last night? Also, sounds like I've got all this joy to come - potty-training hey... Talking of that, I must ask (I don't feel that I can ask my friend incase she gets offended), her daughter has just turned 6 years old and still wears nappies (pull-ups) at night. Is this at all usual?! When I spoke to my Mum about it, she said that the minute it was time to potty train us, she refused us nappies during the day AND at night and that worked very quickly for all 5 of us. Several soggy sheets I would imagine, but we all grasped it fairly quickly. Totally understand that every child is different and where some may excel at this, others may be slightly slower but faster to grasp other things like walking/talking, but is 6 years old a little extreme? I really don't know (can you tell?!).

Majormoo, sorry missed you out hun, hope you're doing Ok!!

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DawnAS-it was Melinda that went out. Was between her and Jessica so of course she had to go.

I have to agree that a 6 year old shouldn't be in pull ups at night. Emma was a nightmare to potty train so was nearly 3 but by 4 we had her out of pull ups at night. Once you've cracked the no day nappies you can work on the night time. We had a few accidents and I'm sure there may be some in the future but the longer your friend leaves it the more difficult it will be. Emma is 5 1/2 and won't even have a potty in her room, she runs to the toilet on the rare occasion she needs to wee.

Fed, fed, fed up of being sick!!!!! I know, I said I would be grateful to have MS but that was then. OK, moan over.

HC
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Ive reactivated my face book account, its just as confusing 2nd time around !!! Im really not fantastic with computers, i can manage the basics and shout for DH to do the rest

D xx

Wow what a couple of days we have had here on Bonkers! I have been reading it but not really had time to post a proper response - but as it is, it has all been sorted and there have been some lovely posts that pretty much say it all. CE hope you aren't feeling bad about bringing it all into the open - I suspect it has been brewing for quite a while and it needed to be discussed so well done for being brave enough to do it I, for one, couldn't imagine MN without having you lot to discuss things with - it is so much more than a TTC thread as we discuss our older children aswell etc - so so glad it is all sorted

I know a couple of you have said you have been onto AN threads but found them bitchy etc. - am interested to know how/why/in what way? Both my AN/PN threads for both boys have been nothing but brill - full of supportive mums and not a bit of bitchiness in sight - have I just been lucky?

Well as we are discussing the subject of poo can I join in?? Yesterday Josh decided that he didn't want to wear a nappy - it has been coming for a while as he has started taking his nappy off. So I went with it even though it really was the last thing I needed yesterday! Not one wee accident - which was brill - but he did a mahoosive poo in his underpants [bleugh emoticon] Even worse, I took him upstairs to sort him out on the changing unit and without me knowing a huge chunk of poo dropped into the top drawer which was open - fortunately I saw it after I had finished cleaning up - can you imagine if I hadn't?? Back in nappies today though as I still don't think he is ready if he couldn't tell me he needed a poo or a wee....is this wrong? He didn't tell me he needed a wee yesterday either - it was just me asking him every 30 minutes or so and him saying yes, and sitting on the potty and weeing.

Dawni lol at the 'here mammy' comment - I bet you tell that to all his girlfriends

BSL for you but well done for managing to be happy for your friends, despite the circumstances - it shows you truly are a good friend. I can only imagine what you are going through

So much for Josh being better - these last 2 days he has been in such a 'contrary' mood - can't think how else to describe it. Not listening, refusing to do anything asked (he is usually quite obliging) etc. He does have a cold so I am hoping it is just because he is ill again rather than a personality change - he has 'done my head in' today!!

Dawni-Facebook is my 2nd love after MN of course.

Ceebee-sounds like Josh and Sophie are at the same stage except she won't sit on the potty. She has no idea she wants to wee or poo.

HC
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Oh CeeBee Now that DID make me laugh heartily...Thank goodness you spotted the stow away before you closed the drawer

By the way ladies...This gal is gonna try and stay light hearted for this months 2ww even though im cramping on CD12, what will be will be !!

D xx

Evening all,

Dawn - you have absolutely hit the nail on the head with your earlier post about this thread. I could not have put it better myself!!

HC - you poor thing with MS and poos on the carpet! Moan all you like about the morning sickness! Grateful?....sounds not nice to me!

Myjob - good luck for the dedication!

Ceebee - oh no...not more poo stories!

Well having a crap night here again. DH and I are fighting.... He's finally (finally finally) told our friends and his family. And not a single one of them have bothered contacting me...not even a text to see if I'm okay. I am very upset. I've been there for and talked to our friends whenever things have been been hard for them...now, well not one of them has reached out to me with any support. I feel very let down.

Do you know what...my DH just asked me what I was doing and I said I was posting here. Guys, you are such a massive support to me...I don't now what I'd do without you all. I told my DH, you guys are one of the few groups of people I can come to and I know you'll all be there when things are good or bad.

thanks guys!

Bluestar x

MJIM a huge well done to Naomi I bet you just feel like a new woman this morning don't you?

BSL oh how crap for you - was DH defending his family/friends?? Maybe (and I am not defending them in any way) they just don't know what to say so avoiding the issue seems easier - when in fact all you probably want is a kind word

I packed Josh off to nursery today and told the staff 'good luck' with him and his contrariness - no doubt he will be as good as gold there today

Morning Ladies......goodness, this will teach me to not log into MN for a few days...hope everyone is well today. I haven't read all the posts but just want to add that this thread has been a fabulous support to me ttc, when I had my mc and now as I plod through my pg, and I hope that's how it stays for me and all of you.

Well, had the nuchal scan and tests on Fri and have been given a 1:11,000 risk which obv I am very happy with. Saw the baby up close and he's looking good Am convinced it's a boy - just have to wait until 28th April to find out at 20 week scan hopefully.

On a less positive note, dd has managed to catch the internet chickenpox that's been going around but in a way I am glad she's got it out of the way now. Apart from being mega spotty, she is completely fine in herself - just not the way I hoped I'd be spending my week off work