TTC and Waiting to TTC? The ever addictable wagon awaits.....

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Over here ladies, and a big Wagon welcome to any newbies!

I'll post the list in a minute too....

awh biccy that's really good news about the job! there's nothing more draining of your energy and just general happiness than a job that you don't like doing. really glad to hear things are looking up for you in that area of your life. hopefully it'll carve the path for a more peaceful you and result in a stress-free pregnancy soon!

dairy that sounds exactly like my dh. he was very about trying for another one and kept coming up with different reasons as to why we shouldn't. we also had a lot of serious talks about everything and i just left it up to him to decide because like your dh-you didn't want to make him feel like he didn't have a say in the process. he just suddenly one day said "let's try for another one" as if it was his idea all along.... lol, but you've just got to let them think that way, you know?

claire haha yeah, you've got to love men! any excuse for "practice" right? i think dh is feeling the same way. he doesn't care when it happens-he's just really enjoying the ride so to speak

right, well, on day 15. nothing spectacular to report. just following the advice of the "how to protect your human-sized sperm" tv show that was on last week and sticking to every 2-3 days. can't really say when my two week wait period starts, so will probably just keep going until af shows up (or not hopefully!).

Well it appears I know nothing about my body. As I'm now 4 days late & did a test earlier today & got a BFP. Had a bit of jumping about, crying & generally behaving like a loony then phoned dh who had to act like it was a totally normal conversation as he was at work & there were other people in the office. Got midwife appt on 29 Apr & edd of 8 Dec.

Claire - OMG! Thats wonderful news! CONGRATULATIONS! So so pleased for you [gri n]

Thanks Dalrymps. We're now trying to decide when to tell people as I'm visiting family tomorrow & dh doesn't think I'll be able to stop myself saying something. I can't believe I didn't know tbh as I've been having exactly the same period type pains as I did when I was pregnant with ds although not as painful as with him. I think I'd tried so hard not to think about it that I'd missed the signs.

It's a hard decision to make isn't it? I told everyone about a week after I'd found out with ds. I had a bug and couldn't stop vomiting and my pils(who we were staying with at the time) called the emergency doc and were going to get him to give me an anti nausea injection . So I was like no! I don't want that, i'm pg!

Not sure if i'd have waited much longer if that hadn't happened though cause I was too excited. Not sure if i'll tell people so soon with the next one as I want more of the time when it's just me and dh who knows and it's our little secret iykwim. Plus I feel more catious now, knowing more than I did then...

Only you can decide whats best there are pros and cons to telling/not telling.

Bet you're over the moon, I am a tad I have to say!

Claire that is fab news! So pleased for you. I was really hoping when you said you were all irritable but AF hadn't appeared that this would be it, 'cos I seem to get worse 'pmt' when I've conceived, but I didn't say anything as it didn't seem fair to sympton spot for someone else when you were doing such a good job of staying sane and not testing early! Well done!

CD8 today, and I have all sorts of OV symptons (tingly, itchy boobs, bit irritable, bit tearful, feel like I'm rather pretty, lots of CM (is that the right abbreviation?) etc!) and so am looking for techniques to avoid TTC this month - it's so tempting just to say to hell with it, but I know we need a break this month, so my aim is to tire myself out working tonight and avoid DP like the plague in case I cave!

And so far 'working' has involved mumsnetting... hmm, as long as I get over the urge to seduce DP I suppose it matters not!

With ds we found out at the drs I was pregnant & I'd already told my best friend before we'd even made the 10 min drive home. Told everyone straight away even though I was only about 3 weeks gone at the time. Feel a bit more cautious this time for some reason.

I am over the moon & would be myself if the tables were turned. Will keep my fingers crossed you get your BFP very soon.

Hello,

Just being nosey really as I was on the first ever wagon thread.

Just wanted to pop in and say congrats to Claire236!! You can join us in the Ante-Natal Wagon if you want. Here

Good Luck to everyone else ttc. I'll hopefully be back on the ttc wagon next year as I really want a 3rd!!

awh, i was away yesterday and missed the fantastic news! huge congrats to you claire!! very excited for you! means there is actually hope for the rest of us

Claire, have you spilled the beans to anyone yet?!

Thanks everyone. Will have to join the ante-natal wagon. Not told anyone yet but finding it difficult.

goooood afternoon everyone. hope you all had a good weekend!

any symptoms coming up yet claire ? how about letting anyone know?

how you doing with not trying this month biccy ?

I know you must be really close to finding out dairy any signs yet?

af is due next monday and i'm praying for a bfp!! just really hope this month is the one.

I've told a close friend & dh has told 2 people. One of the people dh told is actually my boss who is also a good friend of dhs which was a bit awkward. My boss is fine but I would have preferred to tell him myself.

I've had period type pains for nearly a week which wake me up at night. I had them with ds but don't remember them being this bad which doesn't bode well for my memory of labour pains when the time comes.

Evenin' all. Thanks for asking after me BringontheTrumpets. Doing ok with not trying actually, especially as have been a bit under the weather (violently sick in the night on Saturday and definitely still not quite right) and dd has been a nightmare the last week or so, proper threenager and she's still 2 months off 3! Am a bit sad not to be sympton spotting with the rest of you, but I am sure it is the right thing to do. Will hopefully be joining in with a 2ww in a few weeks - although hopefully by then you lot will all be off happily on antenatal threads! How are your symptons Bringon? Anything to muse over?

It is hard to kick the habit of counting days though, I know exactly where I am...and I started working out Dalry's dates yesterday too when I realised you must be nearing the end of your 2ww soon! You're doing an admirable job of not sympton spotting Dalry!

I don't think I'm going to bother with the doctor. I'm going to put the last CP down to it being too soon after the MC (I didn't bleed much with the MC, so it did feel right in a weird way to have a proper AF) and to not being relaxed enough. Have been working hard to get everything in order to hand over my second job in the next few weeks and am sure a cloud is going to lift when it's gone (and my bank balance is going to drop! Hey ho..).

Claire I hope the cramps ease off soon. I suppose there's a lot going on in there as everything adjusts to accommodating a baby.

Righto, must go and do dd's milk (late night today as she ended up having a 2 hour nap this afternoon - I can never bring myself to wake her, she looks soooo gorgeous when she's sleeping...). xx

Hey Biccy, Glad you're doing ok with your 'month off'. You'll soon be back in your 2ww as you say. Sorry you've been sick, hope you feel better soon.

Yeah, I am doing well not symptom spotting although believe me, i've been looking for them, I just don't have any . I have thursday imprinted on my mind as that's when AF is due.

Claire - You get all sorts of pains when first pg that no one ever usually mentions don't you?! Hope they ease off soon and you can get a decent nights sleep.

Bringonthetrumpets - No definate signs as yet, kinda trying to make myself expect a BFN then I won't be as dissapointed as I was the other months.

How about you? Got anything to report?

awh biccy. really sorry to hear you've been feeling poorly-plus having a rough patch with the lo can make your week just that much worse. hopefully you're feeling much better soon and your little lady will resume her angelic ways quickly as well! i'm sure a heavy weight will be lifted off your shoulders once the extra job is over. best of luck with the job hand-over. then your freeeeeee! before you know it, you and your dh will be at it like rabbits once again lol enjoy the time off, iykwim!

claire-hope your cramping subsides soon! especially at night, those are a killer. just the new little bean making lots of lovely room for itself. it's amazing what our bodies can do, isn't it?

no symptoms diary? hopefully this one is a sneaky baby and will just make af late!

symptoms (probably just imaginary!) so far for moi:
-loads of mild cramps
-off and on heartburn
-feeling really sick until i eat something
-bbs are a bit sore, but just at random times
-creamy cm (tmi, sorry!)
see all of these things could just be pre-af or me just tagging any little bodily function as a pregnancy symptom. guess we'll find out next monday. made myself not even go near a test until next monday-probably will be a bfn anyway!

sorry to end on a note, just so up and down right now on whether this really could be it or not!

Oh trumpets, it's rough. How long have you been trying? (Sorry, it probably says somewhere in this thread). Do you have lots planned before Monday to help keep you away from the test. I get so tempted by the First Response. Hideous invention. Only the cost of the damned things helps keep my addiction in check(ish).

Are your men like mine, and apparently able simply not to think about it? I remember when we got our first BFP with dd; it was really faint and he said, 'oh, wait a week and then see' - very sensible advice, and he really could have thought no more of it for a week...

Well, I suppose it has to take over our thoughts, or we'd never allow ourselves to be invaded by a body snatcher and then refused sleep for a year....

Still, it has been such a relief to me psychologically to be able to come on here, witter my thoughts to people who completely understand where I'm coming from, and hear how other people are just the same - analysing their body's every change and hoping it means something, trying desperately not to test, and either managing, or (like me) giving in to temptation...

I have to admit, I'm getting quite tempted to test myself. This sick thing isn't going away, and is starting to remind me of morning sickness - as in I feel fine while I'm eating, then just a few minutes later back comes the nausea, plus it comes and goes, and I've been constipated too (sorry, TMI) and yawning constantly, and coffee seems to make me feel even sicker and the very idea of alcohol! But, I know this is just silly, my tests during AF were definitely negative having been positive a couple of days before, so there's just no way.. but then I'd be between 6 & 7 weeks now, which is just when my sickness started before. Why do I keep torturing myself like this? I feel unhinged. And so irritable all the time!

This is why I know it's right to be taking a break - I need to put enough space between now and what has happend in the last six months so I can stop fantasising about how I haven't really lost all these pregnancies and am going to have a lovely surprise to find I'm suddenly 3 or 4 months gone after all!

Oh golly, ridiculous long, self indulgent post again. I'm sorry... going now...

thanks so much for thinking of me biccy I love reading long posts

this is the first official month of trying. hubby and i have been without protection for the past 3 months. i know it hasn't been a very long time but i keep thinking back to how ds was not even planned and i just fell pregnant. just was so easy, didn't have to think about it and it was such a pleasant and amazing surprise to be pregnant with him.

i agree that first response is an evil invention. i think the manufactures know that you can't actually test that early and therefore you have to keep on going back and buying more b/c you're convinced it's really supposed to be a +'ve. perfect way to keep sales up. terrible getting our hopes up like that. i've been good so far and haven't bought any. decided i wasn't going to unless af doesn't show on monday. we're going on a mini hol. with ds to the zoo and the natural history museum so should be fun for the whole family-and the perfect distraction!

gosh those symptoms definitely sound like ones i'd be suspicious of, so trust me, you're not unhinged. maybe do just spend the few quid and use the test as a type of closure for the month? see it as a start-over for next month when you're feeling ready again?

yeah... why is it that men are just so "meh" about it? 'oh, if it happens, it happens' is my husband's thinking. if only it were that easy....

Ooh, bringonthetrumpets glad you mentioned the natural history museum. We're going to London for the weekend to see friends of DP (of the childless male variety) and I was wondering what I could keep in reserve as a back up plan if I find myself at a loose end with a nearly 3 year old in London.... thank you! I'm liking the sound of your symptons too! It's almost as good (bad?) waiting for everyone else as it is for yourself!!

Biccy the unhinged did a test this evening (I have a stash of cheapies I bought off the internet), but it was a BFN, as expected of course. And it didn't make me the least bit sad, because I knew it would be. I just can't help giving into the fantasies.

And now I've got a new fantasy to keep me going - this is the one where the cheapie tests are rubbish and don't work, as the two BFN's I got a couple of weeks ago were also with these (whereas the 3 BFPs were with more expensive ones). Ha ha, lol.

I completely understand the feeling of 'if it just happened last time, why isn't it just happening this time'. I was just the same. Really prepared myself mentally for a long haul first time, but hit the jackpot straightaway; and although I 'knew' that this would mean nothing in terms of no2, I still blithely assumed we'd be on the way within at least a few months.

Anyway, my pregnancy-test addiction is soon to be toppled off it's perch as no 1 vice by my addiction to mumsnet recently. Really must go and do some work!

Hope everyone's ok; claire, hope you got a better night last night. kittycat and joycey, are you still around. This thread seems to have dwindled a bit...

haha, was SO good just having these little chats on mumsnet with you! glad to know that i've got someone else in this big wide world who's going through the same thing, especially something like this-who you can't exactly go and talk about with your mum

sounds like you'll have a fun time with dp's friends.... we also have to meet up with my dh's childless, partnerless friends as well. should be a good time hanging out in the hotel room by myself and ds on thurs night.... hopefully the NHM will be the cure to our insanity .

hopefully your cramps have settled claire...
any symptoms yet dairy?

Hey ladies,

Still no definate symptoms

If I scraped the barrel I suppose i've been needing a wee a bit more than usual, having trouble sleeping as feeling too hot and occasionally have felt a tiny bit nauseous before breakfast, also had more cm than normal at this time of the month... These all could be down to other things though so trying to ignore!

I am definately not doing a test until AF is late, I'd hate to get a positive and then get my AF .

bringpnthetrumpets - bet you're wishing the days away till mon!

Biccy - Sorry the fantasy didn't come true and it was a bfn . I like the sound of your new fantasy though, about the cheap tests . I'm just like this, get my AF then symptom spot, then convince myself it wasn't a real AF and do a random test half way through the month , have wasted a few that way recently!

Hee hee, thank you Dalrymps, and there was me thinking I was the only one this crackers! I have appointed myself your official 'keep away from the tests' buddy... so, well done, you are dead right to wait to see if AF is late; very sensible; I hugely admire your self restraint. Keep it up, you're doing so well!!

I have just realised (while I'm meant to be working - where oh where is my concentration and motivation?) that if we try again next cycle, AF will be due while I'm away in France with parents and sister, but without DP. This is good, I figure,in terms of keeping away from the tests, as I shall be away from home from CD25, so much easier to be distracted... but, what to do? Do I take tests with me? If AF is late while I'm away, do I test? If BFP how do I keep it to myself while I wait to tell DP (who I think deserves to know first). Or take no tests with me, which means the earliest i could test would be CD32? Hmm.

Biccy - Ooh tricky one. If it was me I would just have to take the tests . You'll probably be suitabily distracted enough so that you don't test early but will have them to hand if late

Thanks for being my keep away from the tests buddy, I might need you soon!

ooh biccy, sounds like your trip to France will be the perfect distraction during your 2ww next cycle! I would definitely take the tests with, but just wait until af is late. That would be such an exciting place to find out! Come on Biccy's dh's spermies, gear up! This is the month to do your stuff. Ha, hopefully they heard me

Dairy, don't worry, you're not alone. I think I may clutching straws and just being overly acute to different things that are going on. Those are all the different things I have been keeping track of as well. Really hope you get a BFP on Friday-or are you waiting until Saturday?

aand yep, i've done the same thing. convinced it wasn't a real af and then convince myself that spending a few more on a test won't hurt b/c it'll be positive right?

brinonthetrumpets - looks like we can all be neurotic ttcers together then. Not sure how long i'll wait if AF is late. It'll just probably turn up first thing tomorrow morning and take the decision away for me! Maybe sat or sun if I get that far...