***TAKING CLOMID FOR THE FIRST TIME - PART 2***

[DungunGirl]

Hi ladies!

Hope you find the new thread!!!

baby dust*

Here's a whole BUCKET load Cam75!

Fingers crossed!

Thank you darling,
i am just wondering shall i get the pg test first response? as it will detect an early pg?
I have put on a panty liner just in case af comes??? i am trying not to take any tablets. Only another couple of hours to go eh???

peju25,

have you got any children?

not got any children we are trying for our 1st really wanted them for long time so hoping the clomid works. Have had lots of people getting pg around me at mo which is always hard. Keep getting told to relax and it will happen by the very few people that know we are trying although not many know bout the clomid.
im overweight and trying to lose some to help out but is such a struggle i can eat salad for a week and put on weight!! My bro and sis are like rakes so dont know what happened to me!! seen on some threads about something that helps people with pcos to lose it but my doc not mentioned it so am going to think about going in and asking her for it!

i am on metformin which seems to be working for me. You have to tell these dr's or else they don't listen???
My gp didn't give it to me it was my fertiliy nurse. I was got top the gym 3 times a week before and i was toned up but not losing anymore. it is worth a go. You have nothing to lose and a baby to gain

Hi

Im sorry about the IVF failiure Cam I can imagine after all the injections and stress it just magnifys the BFN. My heart goes out to all the girls on here.
Im wondering if the clinic are going to tell me to lose weight before treating me which would be a nightmare as I cant seem to shift it.
Got quite a few friend and relatives due to have babies soon so im sure its gonna be hard for the next few months.

I hope AF doesnt arrive for you cam. Let us know

x

i honey i can't remember being told to lose weight? but these dr's can get proved wrong!!! I will let you know 2moro how it goes. Ivf is good when you get the right results... I guess women in our shoes have to keep trying till we get the right result. xxx

hi cam

i went for my scan today and that little heart was beating like mad i was so happy

how are you make sire you let us no tomorrow all i have done is think of you i ad symptoms of nausia and tiredness

lots and lots of baby dust to you and everyone else xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

hi all,

Just to let you know that AF arrived with a bang like i knew she would. I hate to say it but i knew it wasn't going to be. I am so mad at myself i don't know why. I have yet to call the nurse and tell her, my dp is going away on business for 3 weeks so i won't be able to take the clomid till af next month . I am seriously thinking wheather or not to keep on it is just too much and i cannot take it. I want to cry but for the life of me i can't
All the years of trying not to get pregnant and now i want to i can't it is really getting to me and i am trying to be strong but what can i do? i can't really talk to any family or friends because they don't know what i am going through....
I need to go shopping and cheer up i think.
Sorry no BFP for me

Hi Cam75 - I am not one of your regular buddies on this thread, but I just want tell you there is still hope. Look at the three week separation from your hubby as a way to relax/de-stress and take a break from TTC. Trust me it will be good for you and your DP. When he returns you can start TTC refreshed and you never know, that might be your month my darling. Be strong and positive, I know it's hard but you can do it. Treat yourself to retail therapy, why not!

Tell me a little about your stats? If that's not too nosey of course?
How long have you been taking Clomid?Dosage?
How long have you had PCOS?
How long have you been taking Metformin?Dosage?
Have all your cycles on Clomid been monitored?
Is your DP sperm ok?

Sorry it's the scientist in me coming through again, I would love to help you, the best I can

xxxxx

Hi Cam

Im so sorry AF arrived. I know its frustrating and can get you down but if you dont carry on with the clommid you will probably always be thinking what if??
I wanna give you a big hug and try and make everything better * virtual hugs*
You know where we are if you need to chat or rant.
As Moonlit has said the 3 wk break may do the world of good and try and pamper yourself and relax im sure you will feel more positive soon xxxxx

ah dearest moonlit,
you are still a buddy to me.

Your never be too nosey, knowledge is power and if someone can help i am grateful and willing.

. Clomid 6 months cycle started june 50mg
cycle 4 increased to 100mg.

. Metformin started at the same time 1500mg couldn't tolerate 3 tables so i am on 2 a day so decreased as per nurse advise. The tablets have finally settled down and i now take 3.

. PCOS had it for over 10yrs. The early part of my teens. Been in hospital 3 times due to severe pain and black outs. Had a laparoscopy back in 2003 nothing found, Went of the ivf waiting list.

. IVF 2005 funding came through local borough. One cycle only. Fertilized 3 eggs 2ww nothing!!!!!!

. 2007 AnotheR laparoscopy and dye test. Nothing found everything normal. Although i did get and infection and my granmother passed all in the same week i was at my lowest.

Went back to my GP who then reffered me back to Professer Rymer who is the best is women stuff. I am under her team.
I am due to see the consultant in oct I don't like him he has no empathy. Basci told me that there is still a window beacause i am youngish?? and that he will try me on the clomid and if it does not work i will have to go down the IVF route which i will have to pay for?
Dp sperm is fine had it tested before i started the clomid (lucky HIM).

PCOS for me is weight, periods, sweet cravings. My periods have been regualrish for about 2yrs before i was travelling every year for 3months at a time, so i was not getting any. One year i had 6 periods in 12 months??? I get the build up where i get pains and sore boobs for 2weeks before, i feel rage and i have mood swings like crazy. My periods after i had the op where light and no pain, now i get clumps which are so painfully i am in bed for a day?? not even the strongest pain killers take this pain away.
My weight goes up and down but now i am on the metformin it is slowly going. Before i was going to the gym 3 times a week i became a gym freak, it came to a point where the weight was not coming off anymore.
Now looking back maybe b4 i should of got the metformin and i would of been in a better place???

Thanks Cam75 thats very sweet of you

Ok I have read your post three times. First of all I am confused why they made you do IVF before trying other routes. For example the Clomid first, then Clomid with IUI AND then IVF.

Now did they do the laparoscopy because they were investigating endometriosis as a culprit? (the pain you suffered and were hospitalized made me think this).

I have discovered ovarian drilling is another method suggested to PCOS sufferers. But the only problem is, you MIGHT need to repeat the process each time you decide to have another baby.

I wouldn't give up on the Clomid yet. Sometimes it works on the last cycle. However, I think you should try clomid with IUI at least once on the NHS (privately it will be 700 pounds). Although this route is usually suggested if DP's sperm is lazy, but your DP has good sperm. But I wouldn't rule this method out. IT's cheaper than IVF.

Now onto IVF. Ok you can't have another cycle on the bloody NHS, because you had one on 2005. Now here is what I suggest. Have you heard of The Lister Clinic? My research has shown they are the best in London. Now they have a scheme. Where you can share your eggs and get IVF or ICSI for free or with part payment (no more than 1k per cycle) Depending on which method they suggest is best for your circumstances. A cycle usually costs 3k with this scheme you can get three cycles. I am sure there are other clinics to, you just have to search for them.

My friends sister has had a nightmare 10 years. She was diagnosed with, PCOS, endometriosis and other conditions, she has had every treatment under the sun. After her last IVF cycle she went to the US and had several cycles there. She is now expecting twins!

Never give up hope. Those who wait with patience are always rewarded!

I wouldn't worry about not being prescribed Metformin before. Metformin is known to work better with Clomid. I have been taking it since last October. I think it's exercise and low carb diet that has helped regulate my cycle and my weight. But I still keep taking Metformin because it must be helping in some way right?

Ok that's a massive post.

xxx

moonlit,
the laparoscopy last year they were investigating endometriosis as a culprit? but never found anything.
I was thinking the same thing before? when i had my treatment at kings college i was under the consultant John Parsons and he mention clomid but did not follow through as he suspected that i was ovulating??? i would of thought he would of tried that before the ivf route.

I have heard about that clinic i would have to read up on it. When i see my consultant if nothing has happen with the clomid i will ask him about the IUI and the Ovary drilling.

When you say share eggs what does that do?

Cam the egg sharing scheme is a very personal thing. In the sense that not everyone would want to participate in such a scheme. I think the idea is that you need to produce a certain number of eggs with the fertility meds they give you, some are then used for your cycle and the others are donated to another lady who can't produce her own. I think that's the idea. But if you read at the end of the document, you can decide to keep all your eggs but will have to pay 1k (instead of 3k). So it's not a bad deal. But like I said it's every individuals own choice.

Like I said keep positive and rest for the next three weeks.

Good luck my darling. If you want to chat, I am always hovering about .

xxxx

thank you moonlit,

i think i will ask about the ovary drilling if all else fails. Thanks for your support.

Much Love MWah xxxxx

hi cam

sorry to hear your af came darling but just keep up the faith you just make sure you take it easy i think the 3 weeks will be a good break for your body just try and chill out i no its hard to do i just want to give you a big cuddle

how many cycles have you got left of clomid ?

all my love always lauralou xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

lauralou,

i have 2 cycles left??? i just want to cry honey i really do. I think my body needs a break to much of those drugs can't be good for you.

No more hot flushes for now yeah!!!

I am going to the nail salon and i am going to go primark and get something nice!!!

You are most welcome cam75

xxx

Hi again,

Cam75, I'm sorry to hear about all you've been going through, and all the other guys, I can relate to some of your stories, having been on the pill for 10 years, trying not to conceive then ttc for the past 2 years and not being able to because the pill has messed my hormones up. I am so frustrated, on day 23 today and I can't take clomid again because it massively messed my eyesight up (only took 1 round of 50mg?!), was convinced I was pg because i was feeling sick, sore boobs and loads of milk ducts came up, sorry to be graphic, and then today out of nowhere I am having massive stomach cramps and heavy bleeding with clots, on day 23?!? Has anyone else got AF this early or could it be a really early MC? May be wishful thinking but I haven't ovulated in the past 12 years so I feel clueless.

xxx

Hi everyone..
cam75, how r u dear? if u think u need a break, pls do cos' it might help de-stress a bit..
gemma n cam75, your stories sound just like mine been trying not to get preg (not my idea actually) for 2 yrs then now been trying for 3 yrs and still no pregnancy..sounds like a punishment from up above
can't believe its been nearly 9 months since i took clomid and next month will be my 2nd time taking clomid after the mc cos' i'll be back in UK only in late Oct.
gemma, if u dont mind, what did your doc/GP prescribe you since u can't take clomid anymore due to the side effects?

anywayz i really hope everyone taking clomid will graduate soon..really do

love,
nandos

hi again everyone on this frustrating mission!!

nandos, I'm sorry to hear about your mc, did the doc put you straight back on the clomid? Did you go privately in the end? I have heard if you pay for a consultation you can still get NHS treatment afterwards?

I'm back on the waiting list so I don't get another appointment til next january! Ridiculous! I have no idea what they'll give me next after clomid? Don't know if it'll be pills or injectables? I don't know if I'll be allergic to those too though, my body doesn't seem able to cope with hormones!

Baby dust to everyone xx

hi again everyone on this frustrating mission!!

nandos, I'm sorry to hear about your mc, did the doc put you straight back on the clomid? Did you go privately in the end? I have heard if you pay for a consultation you can still get NHS treatment afterwards?

I'm back on the waiting list so I don't get another appointment til next january! Ridiculous! I have no idea what they'll give me next after clomid? Don't know if it'll be pills or injectables? I don't know if I'll be allergic to those too though, my body doesn't seem able to cope with hormones!

Baby dust to everyone xx

Hi Gemma

Have you actually been given a diagnosis of the underlying problem?.

Are you on a hospital's subfertility unit's list; think it is appalling that your next scheduled appt is not until Jamuary. I would keep phoning this unit weekly to see if there are any cancellations - you may get seen quicker that way.

There is no real evidence to suggest that the pill is responsible for failure to ovulate. If anything the pill just masks symptoms of a hormonal problem (PCOS is a common culprit when it comes to irregular periods) that has always been present.

Hi Attila,

Thanks for the reply! No diagnosis, I had a scan back in January and they said they looked at my ovaries but I feel like I'm being fobbed off as they just gave me the clomid and told me to come back for a progesterone test on day 21, and come back in 6 months if I'm not pg. I was sent to hospital due to the clomid messing with my eyes and I've been told not to take it again and wait til my appointment in january! This is after 2 years of going to the doctor, being fobbed off for a year, then finally sent for all sorts of tests and seeing the consultant infertility gynae in July at the hospital. Thing is, I was allergic to the combined pill years ago and I was taken off it due to collapsing, and very high BP. I mentioned this to the doc, nurses and gynae and was told it was fine to take clomid, surprise, surprise, I was allergic to that too! Good idea to keep phoning the unit, worth a try.

Have also got AF, or early MC?? (first in 12 years!) yesterday (day 23?!?!). Is that normal to come on so early?

Anyway everyone, I'm really sorry to rant on, it's just so frustrating

What is everyone else doing if clomid doesn't work?

xxxx