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here is a nice new thread with some nice brand spanking new bags of baby dust....
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COME ON GIRLS WE WILL GET TO THAT ANTENATAL THREAD BEFORE EMMSY POPS!!!!!!!
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Ladies - sorry am way behind, you talk a lot ! Fruity sorry you are having man trouble
Sparkly looks as if you did ov on CD18 - I agree with FF - what do you think ?
All fine with me - was out buying pram and nursery furniture at the weekend

Hello ladies, am far too far behind to catch up properly sorry , but I have been thinking about you all while I have been away and have been wondering how you are all getting on, so I hope that helps a bit

Fruity I'm so sorry your DP is being an idiot, they really can be useless can't they. REALLY hope he snaps out of it soon. That's how it seems to go for my DH sometimes, I swear he's hormonal!

OK. Now. I know I am a moron but.... Can I just mention something.... I am on CD28. I think I am 8-10 days post OV, so I'm headed for a 31-32 day cycle. Except today I had some brown spotting (TMI) like I have never had before, and it occurred to me that this is about spot on timing for an impantation bleed isn't it??!?!? We have been fairly careful this month, cos I'm not meant to get pg til I get my test results, but maybe not careful enough... Any opinions ladies...? (Am NOT going to obsess) ...

Fruity How upsetting that your DP is being an idiot . I have a similar problem to you in that I don't tend to engage in arguments with my DF because he is a seriously bright cookie and will win any verbal sparring. On a couple of occasions, this has worked out badly. Because we didn't fight, he didn't know what was upsetting me, and when we did have a bit of a "discussion", he was more interested in "winning" the fight and not listening to me. I think Mollie's suggestion of writing to him is a good one. There's something quite grave and serious about seeing someone's feelings in writing, that might make him sit up and take notice, and he can't interrupt you or get hung up on oneupmanship.

I really hope he gets a grip .

How are you feeling other than that?

Mibbes How exciting that you've been nursery furniture shopping! I can't wait for that bit. I'm a big knitter, so I've started knitting with a vengeance

Ei Hope your timing is right, lady!

Kate It could be implantation bleeding if what you say is right. I did find that after starting TTC, might once perfectly predictably cycles got that little bit less predictable, e.g. no spotting when I was meant to have some and vice versa, so you may just have to sit it out and see .

Sparkly It definitely looks like you ov'd on CD18 to me

I'm on a computer assisted design course this week. We have to sit in a pitch black room, lit only by our glowing computer screens. The air conditioning is not up to much and we're not allowed to eat or drink in the room, and I'm there from 10 until 4pm . I keep having to excuse myself to have a glug of water, and inevitably I miss stuff. So annoying.

Hope everyone is well and happy today .

...meant to say "my once perfectly predictably cycles..."

Fruity Sorry to hear your DP is being a pain in the proverbial Very selfish of him esp at the moment in your condition as upset and stress is the last thing you need. I think all the advice given so far is very good and I really hope you sort things out soon. Is he having problems at work that he hasn't told you about perhaps? I don't know what it is with men when their wives/partners work at home - I'm self-employed and work from home but my work seems to be less important for some reason Not only do you have your childminding but also your DS to look after - definitely let DP look after DS for a day and see how easy he finds it.
Yarnie Your course sounds like a bit of a nightmare without food or drink! Have the organisers not scheduled any breaks? Hope it's useful anyway.
Emmsy Hope you've not had any more problems with your neighbour. She sounds totally unreasonable IMO whereas you've done everything you should. Have you started packing for your holiday yet?
Mibbes at buying lots of baby stuff We're being given lots of stuff so haven't bought much yet but we did buy a picture for the nursery the other day and a couple of cute soft toys.
Kate Sounds promising - keep us posted as I'm sure you will When are your test results due back?
Hope everybody else is OK today.

Cricri I get a lunch break and a ten minute break in the morning and afternoon, thankfully, but my bladder and thirst are just not on that kind of cycle

Well no, understandably! Hope you're managing OK anyway.

Morning,
Well we did have a chat last night. Turns out he tried to tell me twice that he thought we should slow down on the TTC front but I got so upset that he just let us carry on. I do rememeber this but I thought if he was so set against us trying for another he would've tried a bit harder. I think, like me, he thought it would take a lot longer to happen. 11 months with PCOS is a very short time to fall pregnant naturally.
So he can't get excited with me because he's terrified. Especially as (he says) things are going to get worse. We won't ever go on holiday or go travelling. BTW we've both done the travelling thing and he's always told me he wants a big family
He reckons he's too young (27) to be working so hard and have nothing to show for it. Excuse me? What about those hang-overs he seems to miraculously have at least twice week?
I just don't know what to do anymore.
He says he doesn't feel appreciated. Well, neither do I when I spend all day cleaning, cooking, washing up, washing/hanging clothes, entertaining children, doing my accounts, stressing about the EYFS, etc etc . Then he tells me I don't do enough around here (WHAT?) You girls know what I'm talking about as I'm sure you all do most of that too.
Oh and the funniest thing is, I'm absolutely shattered at the moment, some might say it could possibly be due to growing a human being. He says "well so am I"
Honestly. I just don't know what to do anymore. Perhaps I will take your advice and write him a letter.
We semi-sorted it out last night but I still feel unhappy about it.

Sorry to lumber you with my problems again, feels better writing it all down.

Apart from all that's going on right now. I feel absolutely exhausted and I think MS might be kicking in mildly. I'm not complaining though!

Gonna go and read your posts, I've been so self absorbed lately I haven't had a chance .........

Sparkly Yes, I reckon you definitely Ov'd on CD18 Oh I hope this is your cycle!

Kate Don't mean to get your hopes up but I had that brown spotting around 7dpo (or there abouts) I thought my AF had finally arrived but it kept disappearing and coming back over two days.

Cricri if I let DP look after DS for a day on his own he would make it really easy. He won't clean up after him or do any washing up from what ever he's cooked for him. If I give him a list of things to do, there's no way he'd even do one of them. Anyway, how can I ask him to do that when obviously he works so much harder than me The poor man needs a rest at the weekends!

Yarnie that course sounds dreadful Surely they have to, by law, give you decent breaks!?

Mibbes I bet you enjoyed buying the baby bits Luckily we dont have to this time as we've got everything from last time. Be nice to buy something though. Definiely buying a new double buggy for Childminding though

Ei any sign of ovulation yet?

Yarnie What a nightmare with your course, I know how you feel, I interview for 40 mins at a time and sometimes that's too long before I need to pee
Kate If your trying to convince yourself not to obsess does that mean we aren't allowed to indulge in a little excitement? Would definately fit with implantation bleed, can I ask what test results your waiting for? Would it make a huge difference if you were pg before then?
Mibbes & CriCri I bet it's really exciting planning for your new arrivals
LL & Piper Not heard from you guys lately, how you doing?
Fruity How are you today hun
Sparkly Any 2WW symptoms to report?

Shame Fruity this should be such a happy time, and you sound so stressed . Doesn't sound that uncommon though, dh/dp's, stressing when pregancies are announced. Even when they know you are ttc, I don't think it's a reality for them until the test comes up positive. You should try and have another chat, or write things down at least, you need to get it off your chest so it doesn't eat away at you.
I don't think I'd get much out of that course Yarnie, too hard to concentrate. Hope you manage to though
cd21 today for, so based on my last two 28 day cycles, af is due next Tues. Have had sore boobs since the weekend, haven't noticed anything else though.

Afternoon lovely ladies,
Didn't get to catch up last night. We had a lovely day at the beach and left about 5 because we'd had enough of the heat. We drove for a few miles and came to this sudden blackness...A huge storm started - you'd think we'd driven into another country. We then had a take out with friends last night which was lovely. What is everyone doing today? I've just been to Tesco (GRRR) and am going out with a friend tonight to the theatre and for some food.
Mollie You must have found it really hard in work yday with the heat and the MS . It's not much cooler today either. I have sore (.)(.) (boobs not eyes!) today but think that's normal for this stage of my cycle.
Mibbes Yes, I think CD18 is right but seems later than normal. Are you enjoying the baby buying? What pram have you settled for?
Kate Sounds as though it could be implantation spotting. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Yarnie at your course. I'd be rubbish at listening for such a long time. Only 3 days left anyway.
Fruity I'm glad you had a chat. Men are rubbish aren't they?! [hugs] to you. 2 more days until scan. How many weeks will you be then?
Scully My AF is due on the same day as yours. Fingers crossed neither of them show up.

Hi to everyone else.

Ei ??.??° CD17 cycle 9 TTC#2 (CP april 08 & june 08)
Scully CD21 Cycle 3 TTC#3 (m/c Apr08 & Aug07)
HTGG CD25 13DPO Cycle 1 TTC#3 (MMC Nov07/MC Mar08)
Sparkly 36.79° CD26 8DPO (LP14) Cycle 9 TTC#2
Piper ??.??° CD30 12DPO (LP15) TTC#1

BFP's!!!
Emmsy1 BFP 13th Feb 08 (due 23 Oct)
Neveronamonday BFP 19th Feb 08 (Due end Oct)
Furtively BFP 24th Feb 08 (due early Nov)
Cricri BFP 1 March 08 (due end Oct/early Nov)
mibbes BFP 26th March
Disenchanted, BFP APRIL 16TH
Jollybear BFP 18th April
MollieMooma BFP 1st July
Fruity BFP 11th July (due around 24th March)
Yarnie BFP 16th July (due around 26 March)

I have sore boobs as well Sparkly can't remember if this is normal or not, oh well, hopefully it means something positive
So has it been hot over there his week? We have had chilly days for a Brisbane winter, down to 4deg tonight and highs of 15deg. Trust me, Brisbane residents who have never lived anywhere else consider this Artic temps
Your shopping sounds fun Mibbes
Any news Kate?

Scully Are you going to test early or will you wait and see if AF turns up first? I'm determined not to keep testing this month. It's been very hot here (well for over here..). It's been around 25deg but the rain has returned .

Hurray people to talk too! It's been so quiet in here today and on the other threads
Scully & Sparkly Sending you some willpower and restraint so you don't test too early. Really hope this is it for the pair of you, Sparkly was my CB last month and look at the luck she brought me! About time she got some too

Fruity sending you virtual hugs missus, sounds like you need them.
OMG Kate imp bleed sounds like a real possibility - I had one for 3 days at 9dpo and also an imp dip in temp at 10 dpo (check my chart in case got the days back to front), I really hope you are PG assuming this is not a problem before test results come through...
Sparkly & scully I have everything crossed that sore (.)(.) is a sign...
I got the iCandy Apple

Hi everyone. Apologies for not catching up with your news, but I'm coming down after a bit of an adrenalin high. I discovered I was bleeding at lunchtime so abandoned my course and went to the hospital. It was light, scant and there was no pain so I am hoping it was just implantation bleeding. It has stopped now, thank goodness. A&E sent me away with instructions to return if it got heavy or I was in pain. They also booked me in with gynae ER tomorrow morning. I've calmed down a bit now and after some tears I feel fairly philosophical about it. I'm sure I'll be in pieces again if the bleeding restarts and I expect I'll be nervous going into my appointment tomorrow. Can anyone tell me what to expect?

Hey everyone - I'm afraid I need a bit of a shoulder to cry on today but more of that in a minute.
kate I hate to mention the word and feed any potential obsession but you could test in a day or two - no? I know it will be a dissapointment if it's a BFN but at least you'll know. Fingers crossed in the meantime.
Sparkly You always made things sound so lovely and you alway seem to be doing something good. As my friend in RL would say "you can so be bothered"
Yarnie I hate courses like that - do they not understand that if you had decent and more breaks you would actually take more it rather that listening to your tummy rumble or squirming for the loo.
Fruity Glad lines of communication are open a little at least - it's a start.

So, about that shoulder, any offers? Take a seat girls this could be a long one and suggestions needed.
I mentioned that I had a bit of a fall out with my Mum the other day which started fairly petty but I'll give you the background as it looks like things are getting worse. We have a large privet hedge around our house and it gets quite out of control. We borrowed her hedge trimmer a while back but DP never got round to it what with building our kitchen and work and being a bit lazy and we gave the trimmer back. My Mum's partner has a son (M) who is out of work so I asked if she thought he would like to cut it and I would pay him. All fine. She announced last Thurs that they would be coming on Friday. When we talked about how much to pay him she said not too much as she would be helping and so would I. I had plans Friday afternoon as it was one of my work days and I've been trying to go to the gym after (as you know it was my first week back last week and I'm still trying to ease myself in) I explained that I wasn't planning on paying someone and then helping as well so we left it that. (stay with me ladies)
When I got home on the friday they were still there and she was being her usual bossy and disparaging self (she is always very quick to tell everyone what to do) she informed me next year she wouldn't wait for DP not to do the hedge she would just turn up and do it and that we WOULD also clear the pile of crap in the garden before DP comes home, I said we MIGHT, she said we WOULD. You get the drift. I ended up saying that she had offered to help M and I hadn't asked her and that she didn't have to live with the pile of rubbish so she shouldn't let it worry her.
She is always like this about my house, my skin (spotty), my ttc ( you must find out what the problam is) and I always feel it is a pop at me and when it is about chores a pop at DP, I kind of feel that if anyone is going to be pissed off with him it should be me!
Anyway I beat a swift retreat to the supermarket and things have been frosty ever since.
I have today received a letter from her saying she is very upset and I was really ungrateful and disrespectful and that one day I may have a daugher who speaks to me like that and I will remember this and regret it. She goes on to say that she will not offer to help me again and that if I need any support or help in future I will have to ask.
I am and and don't really know what to do now. DP is away, I've just come out of a very difficult time and her timing is rubbish. I do think I could have been a bit more grateful but she doesn't half make it hard and she hasn't taken any responsibility for any of it. Thoughts? Suggestions? Am I being a cow?

Sorry for super long post but with no DP here and RL friends not answering phones I am rather on my own.

Oh Yarnie am so sorry I crossed posts with you. Are you too early for a scan? Hope all OK? I know how you feel - heart in mouth stuff.
Makes my last post seem crazy - hedges and all - although that is partly my problem with my Mum - there are more important things.
Keep us posted - will be thinking of you - if you like I will do your worrying for you so that you can stop ! I know - a log shot

TeeHee Don't worry about cross-posting. Reading about your problem will keep my mind of my woes for 5 minutes. It does sound like your mum is being unreasonable and not seeing things from your point of view. As she has written to you, I would be inclined to write back to her. I would keep it brief and try and succinctly state the situation as it appears to you and how it has made you feel. Suggest that you meet, perhaps in a coffee shop or somewhere neutral, to talk it through. Tell her you need her at the moment, but that you both obviously need to talk so you can understand more about why the other is upset. Do you think that's feasible?

Yarnie [hugs] to you. I have no experience or advice but have texted Emmsy because she has lots of knowledge about these things. It's likely to be nothing sweetie so don't panic. The bleeding has stopped and you have no pain - lots of people have bleeding in early pregnancy and go on to have healthy babies. Make sure you rest this evening. xxxx
Tee at your mother. You didn't ask for her help and your garden is none of her business. I have an interfearing/negative and ungreatful mother but I try to take everything she says with a pinch of salt. It was very mean of her to write those things to you when you've had a hard time recently. xxxx

I need to leave now to meet friend but I will come back later to see how your both doing. Lots of love xxx

Yarnie Hi hun, Sorry you have had a bleed,I'm not sure how far gone you are? If you are approx 5 1/2 to 6 wks the gynae should still be able to see a HB, if your a little earlier, they may do a vaginal scan, it doesn't hurt but I hope that they can see beanie with a regular ultrasound scan as a vaginal scan may start the bleeding off again. I wouldn't worry too much at this point as you haven't passed a clot, sounds very much like implantation bleeding, mibbes had quite a lot at the start of her pregnancy. (think mollie had a bit too) When I had my 2 early m/c's I passed definate clots, so hang on in there hun and take it easy, will be thinking of you xxxxx

THLD I was going to suggest the same as yarnie I would put your thoughts and feelings down in a letter. Your mum needs to realise that she also only has one daughter called THLD (don't know your RL name) and that you are an adult who needs to be allowed to make your own decisions without feeling that you are being bullied into things. Tell her that you love and respect her but she must also respect you xxx
(my mums is a bit of a bully to, have told sparkly of her ways, still find it hard to stand up to her and I am 43!)

Yarnie meant to also say that my bleeding never stopped, it started, I passed clots within a couple of hours and went on to have a heavy period.Yours really does sound as though baby just nestling in snugly!xx

Emmsy Thanks for the reassurance The bleeding hasn't started again since lunch time, but I'm feeling a tiny bit crampy now, which doesn't help my nerves. I will be 6 weeks tomorrow, so I am hopeful they will see a hb if everything is ok. Bloody hell, this is stressful

DF has been a star, counselling me on the phone and offering to go here, there and everywhere with me. I told him to stay at work and I just focused on my knitting(!)

I'm going to have missed lots of my course and probably won't be certified, but to be honest, I couldn't care less. Some things are more important.