emmsys room...only a few left...we WILL graduate the final few :-)

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hi ladies
here is a nice new thread with some nice brand spanking new bags of baby dust....
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i will bring our list over in a sec after i have linked
COME ON GIRLS WE WILL GET TO THAT ANTENATAL THREAD BEFORE EMMSY POPS!!!!!!!
xx ei xx

Ei Please things worked out better than you had hoped yesterday. Hopefully it won't take too long to get your appt through and you can hopefully get some answers.
Emmsy Hope you're OK after yesterday.
It is very quiet in here at the moment. Perhaps everybody is enjoying the sunshine - it's finally made an appearance here
Have a lovely weekend all

hello ladies, hope you all have a lovely weekend. I haven't had a phone call yet about the car, it sure would be nice if driver has decided not to contact me still very nervous every time the phone rings. Well after all the trauma yesterday when we went to buy 2 fish (that may work out to be the most expensive fish that I know of!) one of them died on us today!?
children were upset, we had named them chip and dale, it was dale who died today. Can't believe it, I have followed all the instructions and waited for a week to allow the water to be just right for them, he was as fit as a fiddle yesterday. I have told the children that if chip lasts a few more days, then we may get another one to keep him company, this time we will buy the same species, I was told that mixing the 2 particular ones that we had bought, wouldn't be a problem. Ei really glad that your appt turned out ok,really do wish you all the best for all your future tests and appts xxxxxxxx

Morning everyone

Emmsy I hope they don't contact you!
Shame about the fish That one didn't last long! I remember having goldfish as a child and every time we bought one it would die within 2 weeks, gave up and bough a hamster which also died quickly, then a guinea pig which lasted a bit longer but not as long as it should have done. I think I'm doomed with pets. I hope Phoebe lasts! She seems healthy enough -if a little on the small side.
What a beautiful morning it is! I woke at about 5am thinking it was the middle of the night and said to DP, "did you leave the light on in the hall?" Turned out it was the sun streaming through the kitchen window - yes, THE SUN!!!

Emmsy at your fish. The same happened to my sister so she took it back and they gave her another one. I'm so glad you haven't been contacted yet. Fingers crossed you won't be contacted at all.
Fruity Weather is as dull as ever in Cardiff.

Just waiting for the midwife to come for my booking in appointment. She's due at 9 but we'll see.

well I did get a phone call this morning! It was a Mr G Petrie, the owner of the works car I bumped. His bussiness is painting and repairing cars has told me that if I wanted to go through the Insurance then it was up to me, initially said that cost would be approx £240, but because I was honest he was prepared to do it at trade price £180. Told you them damn fish would be the dearest ones I know of, anyway the bloke is calling at my address on Tuesday to pick up the money, he is going to ring first, feel glad that it's over, but really annoyed at myself for bumping his car.

DH was a bit peed off with me this morning when I told him what we had to pay out, told him that I would really love to get rid of the car as it is nothing but a burden, and costs so much to maintain, DH doesn't drive, so it's me that does it all, even when I went to Disneyland Paris the last 2 years is was me that had to drive there and back, even drove myself to the hospital when I was in labour with my last 2 children. DH backed off when he knew he had pushed me a little too far I have a volunteer to take me to the hospital this time so won't be under as much pressure

sparkly did your MW turn up?

Emmsy Sorry to hear about the car Another expense you don't need just now. Sorry to hear about the fish as well. Unfortunately as Fruity said, some of them do have a tendency to die just after you bring them home. Could be the change of environment which is too much of a shock to the system for weak ones. My Mum has goldfish and she's in France at the moment so I'm going round regularly to remove the post, water plants, mow the lawn etc. I got there last Saturday and there was a horrible smell... I discovered one of the fish had died and was floating at the top of the tank and all the water was murky and smelly Oooh it was horrible! I hadn't been round for 2 days so I guess it had died just after my last visit. I had to move the survivor to a smaller tank, empty the big tank, clean everything and then put him back in the big tank... Nightmare! Fortunately he seems to be OK. Hope Chip is OK and that you do get a new one.
Fruity How is Phoebe doing? Has she stopped messing everywhere? How old is she now? Some cats are just small and stay that way, not like our big boy
Sparkly Hope the appt with the mw went OK.
I have my first NCT class tomorrow - really looking forward to it
Hope everybody is OK and enjoying the sunshine (well those of us that have some - sorry Sparkly )

Hi Emmsy sorry to hear about the car bumb and poor little dale too when me and DH first moved in together we had a goldfish, we were going on hols and just before we left i noticed he died and being the lazy person i am decided to wait until we came back to "dispose" of him DH's mam was looking after the house when we were away and when she noticed him she thought he died cause she overfed him and decided to replace him, when we arrived back, we thought we had a miracle fish until she told us a week later

Sparkly hope your appointment went well

Well , had a great day at work today........ one of the girls in my office has been on maternity leave for a few months now and the temp thats in to cover her has just announced that she is pregnant

would love a bit of advice from you wise ladies on my chart, i'm 17dpo now did a test on thursday but BFN and still no af and still high temps, think i must have ovulated later than FF thinks

my chart

You may have done Piper, tricky... you can see why FF has put OV when it has as that was a steep rise, but on the other hand CD13 is much earlier than your 2 previous cycles. Looks like you had another big rise on day 20 which is when you OV'd 2 cycles ago. If I was you (if you can bear it!) I'd take CD20 as OV and count from then. Tough, I know, but has the added bonus of meaning that if you did OV sooner and you are pg then you will be that much further on when you have your first scan and the HORRIBLE first 12 weeks will go that much quicker!
Keep us posted!

Emmsy sorry to hear about the bill for the car, but as you said at least you know now. Sounds like your DH might be in for some driving lessons for Christmas!

Beautiful sunshine in Hampshire today, but apparently the rain's coming back tomorrow . DH and I cleared the diary this weekend (told a naughty lie to the people we were supposed to be seeing ) so that we could stay here and get on with working on the house. It's starting to look pretty good y'know! Don't actually feel too bad about lying to our friends, I think she would have irritated me had we seen them anyway. I spoke to her yesterday, I asked how she was and she said "surviving". I know they're only just back from holiday so I asked why only surviving, and she started moaning abuot having a 2 1/2 yr old and a 10 month old. () - Don't come moaning to me about having 2 healthy happy children lady! (think I may be being a bit unreasonable - but then this is the same friend who told me to look on the bright side after my 1st mc as I had pregnancy boobs (mine are normally tiny) without having to ruin them by breastfeeding!!! WTF?!?! Some people......)

to everyone else!

cricri chip is doing really well. thank you! I think he is in love with his reflection, most of the day he has been swimming quite fast up & down the side of the tank, and doing fancy turns, I will get a new fish on Monday so he can experience the real thing DH said that children mustn't call the new fish dale, as it wouldn't be fare on poor dale, then DH reminded me that he wanted our new baby to be called Dale if it was a boy, I just don't fancy the name Dale if baby was a boy, just doesn't appeal to me, sorry if any of you girls have a son/relation etc called Dale, it just doesn't tickle my fancy IYKWIM
Sorry you mums fish has died too cricri piper

cricri chip is doing really well. thank you! I think he is in love with his reflection, most of the day he has been swimming quite fast up & down the side of the tank, and doing fancy turns, I will get a new fish on Monday so he can experience the real thing DH said that children mustn't call the new fish dale, as it wouldn't be fare on poor dale, then DH reminded me that he wanted our new baby to be called Dale if it was a boy, I just don't fancy the name Dale if baby was a boy, just doesn't appeal to me, sorry if any of you girls have a son/relation etc called Dale, it just doesn't tickle my fancy IYKWIM
Sorry you mums fish has died too cricri piper

cricri chip is doing really well. thank you! I think he is in love with his reflection, most of the day he has been swimming quite fast up & down the side of the tank, and doing fancy turns, I will get a new fish on Monday so he can experience the real thing DH said that children mustn't call the new fish dale, as it wouldn't be fare on poor dale, then DH reminded me that he wanted our new baby to be called Dale if it was a boy, I just don't fancy the name Dale if baby was a boy, just doesn't appeal to me, sorry if any of you girls have a son/relation etc called Dale, it just doesn't tickle my fancy IYKWIM
Sorry you mums fish has died too cricri piper

cricri chip is doing really well. thank you! I think he is in love with his reflection, most of the day he has been swimming quite fast up & down the side of the tank, and doing fancy turns, I will get a new fish on Monday so he can experience the real thing DH said that children mustn't call the new fish dale, as it wouldn't be fare on poor dale, then DH reminded me that he wanted our new baby to be called Dale if it was a boy, I just don't fancy the name Dale if baby was a boy, just doesn't appeal to me, sorry if any of you girls have a son/relation etc called Dale, it just doesn't tickle my fancy IYKWIM
Sorry you mums fish has died too cricri piper Think I would have done the same as your MIL and replaced the fish if the children were at school when it happened, but they noticed something was wrong first, hate seeing the children trying to come to terms with 'death' wish I could sheild them from all the nasty things in life, I know its impossible, just don't want them to hurt.
your chart is so hard to interpret piper, did you have a few nights on the 'pop' that may have given you some early rises? I think Kate's advice is good, but you may have even 'O' a little later,possibly on day 22? we will just have to wait and see with this one x
kate DH has swore he will never take driving lessons. When I first met him, I sent off for his provisional licence, and when it came, I gave him 1 DL, if that's what you can call it. He sat in the driving seat and started the ignition, took the hand brake off and panicked! He jumped out of the car and left me very slowly rolling down the road, have tryed to talk sence into him, as he used to cycle to work many years ago, so he's not afraid of being on main roads, but to no avail will definately keep on nagging
I can't believe your friend made such a stupid remark about your boobs, when you had a m/c. I'm surprised she is still your friend? Kate where did you meet most of your friends? I'm glad I have remained a 'loner' for most of my life, I couldn't put up with people like that in my life. It's bad enough having to cope with a disfunctional family at the best of times I suppose these people 'keep us on our toes'xx

hi ladies
emmsy sorry about the bill and also the poor fish i have the belief that my house is where all home bound fish come to die as we had an extraordinary amount of fish funerals here when we had a fish tank i confess to crying once while flushing the toilet after one fish had died (in my defense i was 8 months preg and rather emotional)
kate how insensitive of your friend i dont blame you for cancelling with her! my sister is still being cheif bitch and is refusing to acknowledge that her comments have upset me she keeps going on about how much she has gone through and that i shouldnt be so upset etc she has recently split with her boyfriend she was seeing for 2 months and is acting like she is devastated in front of my mum etc and then last time i saw her she was looking on match.com at a profile of someone she is interested in and sending emails to him this was 3 days after her "awful devastating break up" so she is obviously really upset still sorry i know my situation isnt even half as awful as yours but all i mean is i know to some extent the horror of some peoples insensitivities
i hope everyone is doing well tonight watching the x-factor?? it my guilty pleasure
xx ei xx

OOh Poo! sorry girls, this laptop is too flimsy for my swollen fingers!

Ei sorry your sis is being a bitch some people are so selfish, and only think of their own feelings, it makes me so angry at times, don't let her grind you down, you are far too special for that! P.S I love watching X-Factor too, especially at this stage, the really good singers make me cry, and the bad one's have me wetting my self xx

sorry piper i meant to add i had a little look at your chart and it looks to me that you m ight have Oved around CD24 as before then all of your temps have been lower that makes you 6/7 DPO i think i hope you get your BFP this cycle
emmsy hi i hope you are ok
hi to everyone else
xx ei xx

Evening ladies,
The MW came on time and brought a student with her. Visit was fine...student midwife seemed to be on a bit of a power trip though asking me questions like, "When should you contact your midwife?" and "What foods should you avoid?" I didn't know it was supposed to be a test but I think I gave all the right answers anyway .

Emmsy I was really hoping he wouldn't contact you. How bad was the damage? It seems like a lot of money to part with - even at 'trade price'...I really hope he's being as honest as you are.
Cricri Lots of luck for tomorrow - how exciting!! Don't worry if you don't click with everyone straight away..this has been the case for most people I know. You'll all be best of friends when the babies arrive. Don't forget to let us know how it goes.
Piper Not another pregnant person!! I think you either ovulated on CD22 or 24 so you tested waaayyyyy to early. Lots of luck to you for being a 'round' bride.
Kate at your friends. They really don't know how to say the right things....
Ei I love Xfactor too ... it's such trashy tele but a must watch.

Night all xxx

Hellooo, I'm back and awake ridiculously early - must be the time difference. There has been so much to catch up on so apologies if I miss anyone out. Also warn you this could be a long one.

Mollie I hope you are still lurking as I just wanted you to know how sorry I am for you loss. I am thinking of you and sending lots of ((((((hugs)))))). Please please take as much time as you need, it really does help, it sounds like work are being supportive though which is half the battle. When you think you are ready to go back take a few more days. Hopefully you will be back with us soon but totally understand the need for a break. Take care.

Kate You sound a little more positive and such great news about your appointment but I wanted to post anyway as really felt for you when I read you post - it bought back such alot of memories of how I felt (and my m/c's were much earlier than your experience with Thomas) I think Emmsy is right when she says you will have alot of grieving to do so go easy on yourself. It isn't selfish to want to feel better and it's OK to pay attention to yourself to come to terms to this and move on. When I eventually went off sick we were having stuff done to the house and I had no interest in work or anything really, my boss was frankly an arse, as were some of the people I managed, which made things 10 times worse and whilst I didn't give it any thought at the time I just so happened to be off at my EDD and the anniversary of my 1st m/c (not a coincidence). Anyway I'll shut up now as you may be feeling loads better and I might just be bringing you down ! It wasn't meant to as I am so much better now and the help I got when I was off made such a difference, I don't talk about the specifics that helped much as I feel like a bit of a pretentious touchy feely flake! but if you think it would be useful let me know. You will get there, without ending up in the loony bit (although I haven't got a baby yet and feel I am always two steps away from the loony bin - so who knows! )

Phew - sorry ladies.

Fruity & Sparkly I too feel that I am bursting from my clothes and am too much of a scardy cat to contemplate maternity clothes. Dread to think what my umiform will be like tomorrow!
Emmsy Saw some great maternity dungarees in France and immediately thought of you. Must be a nightmare that DH doesn't drive, I had to nag my DP for ages to learn and even now he absolves all responsibility of the car to me ie: MOT, filling the damn thing with petrol etc
EI & Kate I think between us we could write a large book about the insensitive things people say. Ei It doesn't sound like you are being me me me at all - that sounds like the speciality of your sister! Glad you appointment looks like it could prove positive.
HTGG Perhaps your veneer of a PMA will actually turn into one and do not worry about your sense of humour - I definately think you have it, even though it may be a little dark, it is still there.
cricri & mibbes Glad that all progressing nicely towards babydom in your neck of the woods.
Scully Men - there either not getting enough or getting too much !
Piper Nice you hear from you, how many weeks until wedding.
Yarnie Was getting worried about you and you were simply sunning yourself, glad you had a good time.
Waves to anyone I missed.

We had a great holiday and it was so nice to see DP again after nearly 4 weeks apart. Paranoia over baby not really kept in check but helped in second week by morning sickness. My new routine is wake up, throw up and then feel sick for most of morning, when not feeling starving! As a result we didn't go on many trips out as I just didn't want to get it car and for a couple of days I was a bit home sick. I think when you feel ill you just want you own bed and sofa and food, but I still had a great time and do not want to go back to work. Scan in the morning and very nervous but kind of excited too.

Anyway before you all fall asleep I am going to check other threads - obviously you ladies are always first!

BTW - am on facebook and MSN but am rubbish at finding people - perhaps someone can find me (Sparkly ) and I will then use their friend list!

Teehee Lovely to have you back . Have messaged you on FB and sent you a list of the other MNs. xx

Great to have you back teehee! Glad you had a good time, in spite of the morning sickness! But we just can't win can we? No sickness and you would have spent the whole time panicking... Will be thinking of you tomorrow; is it your 12 week scan? I look forward to logging on and reading your good news . Thank you so much for your post, it would be really helpful to know what worked for you if you don't mind talking about it, either here or on facebook if you'd prefer to do it that way? Thank you in advance!

I seem to be so up and down at the moment. Just don't seem to find any pleasure in anything if that makes sense. Am starting to worry that I might be 'properly' depressed rather than just a bit down. DH has been really sweet this weekend, he's been manically working, tryng to get the house sorted out (he's still at it now...)while I've just been pottering around, tweaking things but otherwise doing basically nothing. He asked me why I'm so sad, I told him I don't know and that I wish I wasn't...
I'm hoping that I'll hear about the hypnotherapy this week and that it'll help. I think the fact that both my EDD for Thomas and the anniversary of the day I found out I was pg for the 1st time are approaching doesn't help, though that's not on a conscious level. I was woken up last night at 3am by a text from someone I work with saying that their baby was born at 1.17 this morning... I'm really pleased for them but it's just hard. It should have been our turn soon... AHHHHHHH I HATE FEELING LIKE THIS! God I can whinge can't I? Sorry...

Ei I still can't believe about your sister. To compare what you are going through with splitting up with a boy she'd only known for two minutes... Please don't feel that what you are going through is any less important/difficult than our situation (not sure that's the right word but I hope you know what I mean). I guess we all just try our best to cope with whatever life flings at us, there are many many people in a far worse situation than me. I don't know about you, but knowing that there are people less fortunate etc etc never really makes me feel any better! Was your facebook status the other day related to ttc? "wonders whether it will ever happen" or something? I think most of us on here know exactly where you're coming from if it was! {{hugs}} to you, hope you're feeling better xxx

Hello to everyone else, sorry for whinging, again!

PS the "boob" comments from my friend were last november, so I just about forgiven them now . TBH I don't think we would still be in contact if it wasn't for the fact that I'm godmother to their eldest. Am quite surprised they asked me, even now! The rest of my friends are nice though, promise!

Teehee just checked the list and answered my own question , I'm guessing it's a 8.5 - 9 week scan? My 10 week scan with Thomas was way clearer than my 12 week one, so hopefully there will be lots for you to see, most importantly a little bean with a strong heartbeat waving back at you!

just a quick one to say welcome back to teehee you have been missed good luck for tomorrow i wont be able to check til tomorrow so i have all my fingers crossed for you
i had the BEST bath before with lots of 'lush' bath salts etc i smell gorgeous now rather than like a cats arse like i did earlier on
hope everyone is havin a nice sunday night
xx ei xx

ahh kate now that would be telling
xx ei xx