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QueenyEisGotTheBall · 24/07/2008 18:25

hi ladies
here is a nice new thread with some nice brand spanking new bags of baby dust....
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i will bring our list over in a sec after i have linked
COME ON GIRLS WE WILL GET TO THAT ANTENATAL THREAD BEFORE EMMSY POPS!!!!!!!
xx ei xx

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Sparkly08 · 15/08/2008 23:03

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scully · 16/08/2008 09:48

I saw your status on Facebook Ei, so what's your reason for being happy?
I'm on my 2nd glass of wine, dh p**sed me off lunchtime today and I've been very very ever since. Sort of talking now, but on my 2nd glass of wine so that may have helped
dd's are getting on my nerves as well, think I just need to be home on my own, which of course isn't possible, but I can dream
I'm hoping to win part of the $19m lottery draw that is happening tonight, then I could come over for your SW19 meet up

scully · 16/08/2008 09:49

ps. Sparkly, I love Monsoon. I still look on Ebay for Monsoon bargains I can buy from down here, loved their sales and Portsmouth outlet store

QueenyEisGotTheBall · 16/08/2008 10:26

morning ladies
AF is gone from here all i have is a small amount of brown spotting so CD3 and no more AF
scully i am happy because it is the weekend and me and DH went for a nice meal last night with my mum and dad so thats why i hope you are ok and not hung over in the morning
sparkly sorry to hear about your friend and her baby i had my fingers crossed for her that things would be ok im so sorry
fruity how are you feeling? not too rough i hope
hi to everyone else

QueenyEi 35.85° CD3 cycle 10 ?DPO TTC#2 (CP april 08 & june 08)
scully CD5 Cycle 4 TTC#3 (m/c Apr08 & Aug07)
Piper ??.??° CD14 TTC#1
Kate2179 CD17 ttc#1 (mmc Nov 07 & mc April 08)
HTGG CD19 Cycle 2 TTC#3 (MMC Nov07/MC Mar08)

Emmsy1 -- weeks pg, EDD 23 Oct
cricri 27 weeks pg, EDD 1 November
Mibbes 22 weeks pg, EDD 6 December
molliemooma 9 weeks pg, EDD 13th March
Fruity 8 weeks pg, EDD 22nd March
Yarnie -- weeks pg, EDD 26th March
Teeheelaydee 5 weeks pg, EDD 12th April
Sparkly 5 weeks pg, EDD April 10th-13th

here is our udated list aswell it hadnt been done since tuesday
hope everyone is ok
xx ei xx

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Sparkly08 · 16/08/2008 12:20

Morning all,
What a dull weekend!! We've just come back from a play cafe and have decided to go bowling this pm. We should be sat on the beach in August!!
I've updated the bottom half of the list..not sure if I've put the right number of weeks in for everyone so can you all check?
Scully Any news on the lotto? Hope you're head isn't too sore in the morning!!
Ei What a weird cycle for you . Glad you had a good meal.

Have a good weekend all.

Emmsy is back today [waves]. She has lots to catch up on......

QueenyEi 35.85° CD3 cycle 10 ?DPO TTC#2 (CP april 08 & june 08)
scully CD5 Cycle 4 TTC#3 (m/c Apr08 & Aug07)
Piper ??.??° CD14 TTC#1
Kate2179 CD17 ttc#1 (mmc Nov 07 & mc April 08)
HTGG CD19 Cycle 2 TTC#3 (MMC Nov07/MC Mar08)

Emmsy1 30 weeks pg, EDD 23 Oct
cricri 29 weeks pg, EDD 1 November
Mibbes 24 weeks pg, EDD 6 December
molliemooma 10 weeks pg, EDD 13th March
Fruity 8 weeks pg, EDD 22nd March
Yarnie 8 weeks pg, EDD 26th March
Teeheelaydee 6 weeks pg, EDD 12th April
Sparkly 6 weeks pg, EDD April 10th-13th

MollieMooma · 16/08/2008 13:26

Kate I am so sorry I forgot to mention about your friends, I'm really glad you told "him" straight and didn't bottle anything up, really hope you feel much better about it all now. You were bound to be upset it was a highly emotional issue.
Sparkly So sorry to hear about your friend, it is hard to know what to do, but you will instinctively do the right thing. I have no experience of this kind of situation but a friend of mine lost her 18mth old boy,I didn't go to see her straight away but just happened to bump into them soon after and I was so pleased because all I wanted to do was hug them, which I did in the middle of the road! Didn't really say a lot because what can you say?
Hi to everyone else on this miserable overcast day

cricri · 16/08/2008 16:26

Sparkly So sorry to hear about your friend I know you want to be strong for her, but I'm sure she won't mind if you cry with her too so don't feel you have to be brave for her sake. As Mollie said, sometimes a hug is all you can give and words aren't enough in these circumstances. Kate will know more but I'm pretty sure the hospital will be able to arrange a burial if that's what your friend wants. A lot of cemeteries have a special baby corner as well
I guess I should count myself lucky that it's been warm and relatively sunny here this afternoon Hopefully any rain we get will go overnight as we're meeting up with some friends and their two DDs tomorrow for a walk at some gardens nearby
Hope everybody else is OK.

HeyThereGeorgieGirl · 16/08/2008 17:03

Hi All. Just dropped DD1 at her Dad's as she's off on hols for 2 weeks with him. Bit as will really miss her. But of course she's so happy that she just skipped off and practically slammed front door in my face . So just DD2 and me for next 2 weeks. Am going to find it strangely hard just having one as with two at least they play together.

Sparkly Am so sorry about your friend. Have been trying to think about what I'd want friends to do if i was in that situation. Only thing I can come up with is maybe to ask her what she wants? Space? Company? Food cooked? Help with arranging funeral? It's really difficult as you don't want to stifle her, but you don't want her thinking she has no support. Would gently let her know that you are there for her when ever and however often she needs. You might actually be more when the shock wears off, couple of months down the line.

Am gearing up for mother of all meetings with our builder and architect on Tues. Builder sent through revised costs and timings. So we're 'only' £24k over budget and 'only' 12 weeks behind schedule. Hmmmmm. He's got some explaining to do.

Quiet weekend for us here. My bro coming over tonight for vino, steak and DVD. And tomorrow. Who knows? Walk on Wim Common with DD2 and DH maybe and some lunch somewhere.

Mollie If I don't catch you before Monday, best of luck chick for the scan. Have everything crossed for you.

TeeHee Missed you before you went on hols but yyyeeeeaaaaaaa for good scan results. You will so so much more on the next one.

HeyThereGeorgieGirl · 16/08/2008 17:04

Ei Can totally empathise with you feeling crap about your body messing you around. Hopefully your appointment might be able to shed some more light on it?

FruitynNutty · 16/08/2008 17:28

Oh Sparkly your poor poor friend I wouldn't have any idea how to support her. It's difficult because you want to give her space and be there for her at the same time. I think I'd do what Georgie says and let her know you're here for her when she needs company. Maybe text her every week to check on her and to let her know you're thinking of her and if she's ready for a friends shoulder.

Emmsy1 · 17/08/2008 09:13

Morning ladies, just a few lines from me this morning as have loads of ironing to catch up with and dd is going to a party at 12noon.
Lovely news that THLD and sparkly got their BFP's,sparkly kindly let me know via text. CONGRATULATIONS THLD it's lovely news, and sparkly what can I say...You have made me very happy! Only a few girls left now,hang on in there, your turn will come!
kate we will stay put, until all of you have your bfp's. We are all very loyal on this threadReally sorry that you have had such an emotional week. Can't believe that your friend's DH didn't realise how insensitive they have been to towards your feelings regarding your loss of Thomas. Think that they have chosen to ignore them, life isn't like that, I'm sure that if they went through the same scenario that they would want and expect some support, can you imagine your DF reaction if you just decided to sweep it under the carpet anyway you don't really need friends like that in your life, well done for handling it as best as you could, it doesn't matter that you got upset in the pub,you are human after all, at least you got a few things off your chest,even if they don't really take on board what you have said, it's important that you have said them. X
sparkly I think kate covered all the best advice tips for you to give to your DF. Sorry that you and your friend are going through this terrible time. Just keep being your lovely true self and don't shy away from her, she will be hurting for a long time, but she will also remember who stood by her, love and strenght to you bothXXX

Sparkly08 · 17/08/2008 09:15

This weather is awful again!! Does anyone have anything exciting planned on this wet weekend?
Thanks for all your tips. Have heard from my friend and she seems to be doing ok at the moment. I'm waiting to hear whether she has visitors today or not - if not then I'll go and see her.
Happy Sunday all.

Emmsy1 · 17/08/2008 09:16

Hello to everyone else, will try and get on line later for a 'proper' chin wag!

Sparkly08 · 17/08/2008 09:34

Emmsy x posts! Lovely to have you back. xxx

cricri · 17/08/2008 11:02

Welcome back Emmsy Look forward to hearing all about your holiday later.
Sparkly The weather here is rubbish as well. We were supposed to go for a walk with some friends this afternoon but we've decided to meet for lunch and see what the weather is doing afterwards. Might brighten up Hope you manage to see your friend today.
Hope everybody else has a good day

MollieMooma · 17/08/2008 13:19

HTGG How you feeling about DD1 being absent today? Is this the first time she's been away for so long? You'll just have to regard it as quality time with DD2 and symptom spotting like mad!
Sparkly If you go to see your friend, hope all goes well
Emmsy Welcome back, it's lovely to "see" you again, it felt like aaggggeeesss!!! I really hope your holiday was nice and relaxing, hope you got some photo's of you in your dungarees how is bump?

Well I found EI on facebook today, so have asked Fruity Sparkly & Piper to "be my friend" Is anyone else on there from our little gang?
MS seems to have subsided during the day now, just throw up every other night but obviously getting much better. Still to scared to take off my travel bands though One more sleep until my scan, there is a little part of me that is actually excited rather than worried!

QueenyEisGotTheBall · 17/08/2008 19:09

hi ladies
emmsy nice to have you back how was your holiday?
mollie how did your MW appt go? good luck with your scan tomorrow
sparkly hope your friend is as well as can be expected today
georgie i hope you are having a nice time with DD2 while DD1 is away
a big hello to everyone else
xx ei xx

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kate2179 · 17/08/2008 19:17

Facebook? Me me me!!! Please can I be your friend...? [shy emoticon] Give me some clues and I'll go looking for you all

Emmsy so lovely to have you back, Mollie's right, it does feel like you've been away for AGES! Hope you had a great time

Sparkly I'm so sorry to hear that the worst has been confirmed for your friend. I think the others have it exactly right, all you can really do is keep telling her you're there for her . She will def be able to have a funeral for her LO if she wants to, but if they'd rather not the hospital will 'take care of things' for them. The hospital may offer to do a service in their chapel, there ought to be a bereavement officer she can speak to about it.
Don't think I have mentioned it on here before, but my DH is actually a funeral director. It's a family business, started back in the 1860s, now run by my dad who is (allegedly) starting to think about retiring so 2 years ago DH was looking for a new challenge having taken his old job (skipper of a 75ft motor yacht) as far as he could without moving abroad so he started working for my dad!
The reason I mention all that is cos it was obviously a bit different for us when Thomas died than it would be for most people. Actually it was really nice (iykwim). DH went and picked him up from the hospital and brought him home - the business is run from an office next to our house and there's a little chapel there. So Thomas stayed there til the funeral and my dad made him a tiny white coffin with a little silver plaque with his name on . James wrapped him in a blanket I had used when I was a baby and put him in the coffin then on the day of the funeral we just went to the crematorium in our car and I held the coffin on the way there and carried it in. So it was all very personal.
But any funeral director worth their salt will help your friend as much as they can. There shouldn't be any charge except maybe some fees, although if they'd like a vicar they will probably do it for free too. They will be able to chose whether to have a burial or a cremation but they may be a bit restricted on which plot they can have if they want a burial, it will depend where there's space. I think she is 19 weeks? She should be aware that if they decide to go for a cremation there probably won't be any ashes for them to take away afterwards as their LO will be too tiny. We decided to have Thomas cremated anyway, although that certainly made the decision harder. DH has always thought of him as a free spirit and he liked the idea of him being 'released' somehow. We will have his name and DoB inscribed on a wall in a new garden of remembrance they're building in the churchyard of the church where we were married, his details will go next to my Grandma's who I have always thought will be up there looking after him for us. and . Sorry that's such a long message, but I hope it's maybe helpful in some way

Want to tell you about our weekend, we were at a wedding yesterday with "them" (Sooooo hard...) but am about how long my post is already, so think I'll come back later to give you all a break

kate2179 · 17/08/2008 19:25

Just re-doing my stats, I seemed to have lost a few days somewhere!

QueenyEi 35.85° CD3 cycle 10 ?DPO TTC#2 (CP april 08 & june 08)
scully CD5 Cycle 4 TTC#3 (m/c Apr08 & Aug07)
Piper ??.??° CD14 TTC#1
Kate2179 CD20 ttc#1 (mmc Nov 07 & mc April 08)
HTGG CD19 Cycle 2 TTC#3 (MMC Nov07/MC Mar08)

Emmsy1 30 weeks pg, EDD 23 Oct
cricri 29 weeks pg, EDD 1 November
Mibbes 24 weeks pg, EDD 6 December
molliemooma 10 weeks pg, EDD 13th March
Fruity 8 weeks pg, EDD 22nd March
Yarnie 8 weeks pg, EDD 26th March
Teeheelaydee 6 weeks pg, EDD 12th April
Sparkly 6 weeks pg, EDD April 10th-13th

cricri · 17/08/2008 20:38

I'm on Facebook too but you need to give me a few clues so I can go looking for you all If you want to find me, try using "trampolining" as a search term. I think mine is the only black and white photo that will come up and trampolining will be listed under "Activities". My initials are CM-S. Very cloak and dagger isn't it
My AN thread started its own FB group and that's been good so perhaps we could do the same. What do you all think? It's interesting to see what people's real names are (not that mine is all that different to my MN name - another clue ) We've kept it private too.
Well the weather improved dramatically here so we did manage a walk with our friends after lunch More rain tomorrow though
Kate Hope the wedding was OK - please let us know how you got on. Your last post about Thomas was very moving

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piper84 · 17/08/2008 21:03

Hello lovely ladies i really have been neglecting this room lately

Sparkly so sorry to hear what your friend is going through she is really lucky to have a friend like you to support her through this sad time

mollie i accepted you on face book glad to hear the ms is easing off a bit. Good luck with your scan mrs, will be thinking of you xx

EI & Scully sorry the evil witch got you both she really is such a B%^%£

Fruity how are you hun? hows the symptoms? and hows the wedding plans going?
HTGG sounds like a nice relaxing weekend you have planned
Kate those people sound like they were really insensitve to you and your dh glad that you got to let them know how you felt and hope you fell better soon hun xxx

Yarnie and Teehee Big waves to you both, hope you are both well and beanies too
EI hope you get some answers at you appointment
Big waves to cricri and Emmsy too
you can find me on face book by searching piper

i was out by two days so have changed my stats, FF gave me ov lines for cd 13 but took them away this morning

QueenyEi 35.85° CD3 cycle 10 ?DPO TTC#2 (CP april 08 & june 08)
scully CD5 Cycle 4 TTC#3 (m/c Apr08 & Aug07)
Piper 36.29° CD17 TTC#1
Kate2179 CD20 ttc#1 (mmc Nov 07 & mc April 08)
HTGG CD19 Cycle 2 TTC#3 (MMC Nov07/MC Mar08)

Emmsy1 30 weeks pg, EDD 23 Oct
cricri 29 weeks pg, EDD 1 November
Mibbes 24 weeks pg, EDD 6 December
molliemooma 10 weeks pg, EDD 13th March
Fruity 8 weeks pg, EDD 22nd March
Yarnie 8 weeks pg, EDD 26th March
Teeheelaydee 6 weeks pg, EDD 12th April
Sparkly 6 weeks pg, EDD April 10th-13th

kate2179 · 17/08/2008 22:07

Ok, am back! Been looking for cricri and piper on facebook, no joy! There are over 500 results for the search "piper"! and I can't find anyone listed for trampolining with the right initials for cricri ... More clues please ladies!

Sparkly if your friend is 25 weeks she will almost certainly have some ashes if she has her LO cremated, unless the baby is very small for dates. Some friends of ours lost their little boy at 23 weeks and they got a little. It's such an emotinal decision, and one which there's no rush for them to make. I totally agree about the name thing, we did the same. Thomas would have been a Toby had things been different. If he had been a girl as things turned out he would have been Lucy which means "bringer of light". The right name will just come to her. It was quite spooky actually, DH and I both came up with Lucy on the same day at more or less the same time totally independently. I said to him over dinner that I had finally thought of a girl's name. "Yes," he said, "Lucy" ! Weird huh? I will be thinking of you and your friend over the next few days, please don't hesitate to say if there's ANYTHING we can do. {{{hugs}}}

piper good to 'see' you! How you doing? Does your instinct say that FF was right to give you the lines when it did, or right to take them away? Day 13 is pretty early, but you never know, iirc the cycle Emmsy conceived this time, she OV'd on day 9! In fact that's why I remember, becuase I was so that she'd caught it - I think you did a super early OPK for some reason didn't you Emmsy?

Ok. The wedding. Well it was ok, there were 5 pg women there - one due today, 3 due within a week of each other in November and one 4 months pg who also had a 16month old. Now that's just showing off !
The wife of our friends, who I hadn't spoken to about things the other night came and spoke to me quite late on. I was convinced she was ignoring me for the first part of the day but who knows. I decided to follow the suggestion of whichever of you it was who said I should get very drunk, and got very drunk
She was a lot more defensive about the way they've behaved than her DH was, said we hadn't responded to messages she'd left us (untrue) and that we should have made it clearer how we were feeling. I said maybe we should, maybe we shouldn't, but at the end of the day we had a hell of a lot to cope with, and didn't expect people we viewed as friends to make things harder rather than easier. It was ok I guess. Really hard when people would come up to her and congratulate her and ask about the bump. She said that's really difficult for her when I'm there. I said not half as difficult as it is for me . The hardest thing was that a couple of times her husband came up behind her and put his arms around her and over her bump . I don't know how much I have a right to expect of people, whether that's insensitive or just normal behaviour, and he was quite pissed. It's not like it was just the 3 of us there talking when he did that, I was in a group that included her, but it happened more than once.
We were sat next to a couple who have had 2 mc's since christmas, one very early, she only found out she was pg when she started mc-ing and one at 10weeks after they'd had a scan and seen a hb. She'd then mc'd at home and saw the sack etc... She was pretty traumatised by that, totally understandably, and of course because she's "only had two" she hasn't been offered ANY medial help. Makes me so . It's as though what she went through was somehow less valid than what we went through because it happened 7 weeks earlier We got a coffin, a funeral, etc etc, they got precisely NOTHING. Poor lady. That just can't be right can it? I told her about mn so hopefully she'll appear at some point, but I'd be surprised...

So all in all, a traumatic week, as predicted, but not without highlights - although a VERY hungover lunch with the ILs and some distant relations of my MIL today was definitely NOT one of them
Am hopig for a better week this week, with less tears. It's my birthday on thursday so fungers crossed... I know it's going to be quite weird though, I'd pictured a very sober, very fat birthday, but it definitely won't be sober now

Bedtime now, am done in

scully · 18/08/2008 00:53

QueenyEi 35.85° CD4 cycle 10 ?DPO TTC#2 (CP april 08 & june 08)
scully CD7 Cycle 4 TTC#3 (m/c Apr08 & Aug07)
Piper 36.29° CD18 TTC#1
Kate2179 CD21 ttc#1 (mmc Nov 07 & mc April 08)
HTGG CD20 Cycle 2 TTC#3 (MMC Nov07/MC Mar08)

Emmsy1 30 weeks pg, EDD 23 Oct
cricri 29 weeks pg, EDD 1 November
Mibbes 24 weeks pg, EDD 6 December
molliemooma 10 weeks pg, EDD 13th March
Fruity 8 weeks pg, EDD 22nd March
Yarnie 8 weeks pg, EDD 26th March
Teeheelaydee 6 weeks pg, EDD 12th April
Sparkly 6 weeks pg, EDD April 10th-13th

I managed to restrain myself on the weekend and not drink too much, surprising considering how I was at dh for most of Saturday Men really have their heads up their own arses sometimes don't they
Might start opk's today, I have a load and who knows what my cycles are doing, after being 6 days late last time, so thought why not.
dd1's is leading the school assembly this afternoon and she is one of the children saying a prayer. Last time she had to get up in front of a large group, she freaked out and couldn't do it, and we had tears last night about having to get up in front of everyone today. So fingers crossed she gets through it, will be such an accomplishment if she does
I'm also on Facebook, Ei and I are friends and I'm her only female Australian friend, if that helps
Please send me a message on there though if you add me as a friend, so I know you're from mumsnet, as I tend to ignore friend requests if I don't recognise the name
Welcome back Emmsy, you must have a lovely bump now. Hope your holiday was relaxing.
Well done for you hangerover Kate, much needed I think and for dealing with your 'friends' as well, don't think I'd have coped half as well as you have
Hi to everyone else, I'd better go and do some grocery shopping, have delayed it long enough

scully · 18/08/2008 01:03

I also couldn't find you Cricri, will have another look later though. Are you a member of a network? That might narrow the search. My network is Australia and my photo is taken on a beach, me and my girls and my girlfriend and her daughter.

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