emmsys room...only a few left...we WILL graduate the final few :-)

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hi ladies
here is a nice new thread with some nice brand spanking new bags of baby dust....
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i will bring our list over in a sec after i have linked
COME ON GIRLS WE WILL GET TO THAT ANTENATAL THREAD BEFORE EMMSY POPS!!!!!!!
xx ei xx

Mollie 12lbs is a lot .. I hope you have a lot of enjoyment putting it back on .
Scully Your noodles sound lovely (even though I'm not keen on spicy food when i'm pregnant).
HTGG Welcome home. Sorry about BFN but glad you had a good holiday. Really hope this 2WW is a lucky one for you.
fruity and yarnie Where are you?

Had a text from the lovely Emmsy this morning. She is enjoying her holiday and is back on Saturday.

Ei and scully you know the rule, it's not over until the evil red witch shows her ugly mug... so you're both still in with a fighting chance.... good luck !
HTGG welcome abck - sorry for BFN but at least you're back on the home straight now
Sparkly congrats on graduating
Mollie so glad the MS seems to be getting better - eat while you can though as you never know when you'll have an 'off' day.
I am currently addicted to choclate - think it is a genuine craving as think about it all the time and am usually more of a crisps-girl !

HTGG Sorry AF got you on holiday of all places But hopefully being away may have made you more relaxed and you'll see a BFP in a couple of weeks In any case, as somebody mentioned the other day, we're leaving nobody behind so don't worry about that
Ei and Scully Still keeping everything crossed for you both...
Mollie Pleased the ms is getting better. Don't worry too much about what you're eating ATM - in a few weeks' time you can hopefully go back to what you normally eat.
Teehee France really isn't the best place to go when you're pg food-wise... Far too many temptations especially in early pg when you'll probably be more careful than I was a couple of weeks ago Soft cheeses are OK as long as they're pasteurised, all types of pate is out but I believe you can have shellfish as long as it's cooked (so moules mariniere would be OK OK). Check the FSA website here, although they say avoid soft cheeses altogether, oops! As Mibbes said, there's no restriction on the patisseries and bread you can eat so make the most of those! How long are you away for and whereabouts are you going?
Hope everybody else is OK DH and I had a lovely time in Oxford and enjoyed our wedding anniversary meal. That's probably our last time away before the baby comes... Parentcraft and NCT classes start next month and we really must sort out the nursery!

Hello lovely ladies, we have been away for the weekend but I have been thinking of you all, especially Scully and Ei and wondering how you are getting on... I'm so sorry you're both being given the run around atm. Really hope something happens for you both soon either way, so that at least you can start to move forwards in whatever direction, am keeping everything crossed for you both that it will be the right direction though! Trying to find a positive slant for you both... how about this: I think you both know when you ov'd, so the later you find out, the more pg you will be and the less time you will have to wait til your first scans! Any good? Feel free to tell me to bog off if not. Am thinking of you both.

Hello Georgie! So glad you had a lovely holiday! Had you been to Kalkan before? I can't remember. Did you have a favourite restaurant? I was thinking of recommending some before you went, but they're all so good there's really no need, plus our favourites may not be too child friendly. So sorry TEW got you while you were away, she's got me while I've been there 2 years running so it's obviously something to do with the place... Hope you're feeling ok, or as ok as you can... Can't believe you're on the 2WW again already! Hope this is your last one for a REALLY long time! (Possibly ever, unless you want an Emmsy sized family? )
You certianly won't be the last to graduate, we're not even allowed to start trying yet... . I have a hosp app for more tests on tuesday and I have a horrible feeling the results take ANOTHER 10 weeks and they don't want us to start ttc again until we have them. That makes it the end of OCTOBER! Am def going to wait another month or so, but not sure I can handle waiting til october... ideally I would love to be 12 weeks before christmas, but then wouldn't we all...

Mollie so glad the ms has eased up somewhat, 12lbs !! Hate to admit it, but now I am ever so slightly of both your weight loss and your pg!

Hello to all the pg ladies , how about a load of baby dust for those still on the first half of the list?

We have a really tough week coming up. Some of you may remember me ranting quite a while ago, poss on Avengers, about some 'friends' of ours we/I fell out with after we lost Thomas because of the incredibly insensitive and hurtful way they handled not only our mc but the news that she is now pg and due in November... I haven't seen them since May when everything kicked off but we're going to a wedding next weekend and he's the best man. They're coming round for a drink on tuesday and I have NO IDEA how to behave. They've made it quite clear that they don't want to talk about how/why I've been upset, they just want to pretend it never happened, and I just don't know how to handle it for the best. I don't think we're ever going to be as close to them as we used to be whatever happens so I'm not really sure there's any point going into it all but equally I don't think I can just pretend everything's ok and we have to see them next weekend anyway... So looking like a tough week for me.

Sorry (a) for the MONSTER post and (b) not to finish on a more positive note.

I am bound to forget something so if I miss anyone please forgive me!

cricri & mibbes thanks for the tips, I had forgotten about the delicious patisserie so that cheered me up no end and knowing I can have a bit of moules/frites is fab. Actually it will be so fresh that I can't imagine any danger. Cheese isn't the same without wine anyway so hopefully won't miss it. Am hoping that I am so happy after my no disaster scan that I float to France on a little cloud of happiness. We are going to the Laungdoc/Rousillan region near Beziers & Montpellier. I am looking forward to it but am too nervous about scan to really get excited. Can't wait to see DP though.

Mollie Glad to hear that you are feeling more normal and can now EAT - congratulations!

Kate I hope you don't think I am being mean but if your friends don't want to talk about why you were upset then they are probably not the friends you thought. When I was off work I thought alot about some of the awful things that so called friends said and decided that I could stop being angry with them but that I would also slowly let them drift out of my life. There were so many great people that I do treasure that I just thought life is too short to waste on those who don't really care about me. You were the one who had an awful thing happen and they should be sensitive to that. I hope it goes OK though, you know we are here if you need a good ol' rant.

Hey to everyone else

teehee you're so right, I absolutely agree with you. I would def let them drift out if I could / when I can, it's just that we have to see them next weekend whether we like it or not and DH thinks (probably rightly) that we should see them for the first time before that to get it over with in a less pressured situation... Joy! They are definitely not the people I thought they were, and I am very much aware that the way they have behaved isn't just something they have done, it is who they are, so there's no point hoping they will change, and in a way there's probably no point telling them exactly why I've been so upset because they just don't have a bloody clue. I think I will probably need to take you up re ranting though!
Also, teehee I hate to say it, and it's totally up to you, but personally I wouldn't touch moules or any other shellfish right now, especially with your/my history. If the worst does happen, and there's NO REASON to think it will, if it was the day after you had a dodgy moule you'd never forgive yourself. I have a friend who had her 4th mc the day after eating lobster and she couldn't shake the thought that there was a link, even though logically she knew there almost certainly wasn't. I think with ANY shellfish it's the listeria risk isn't it? You'd 99.9% be fine, and it's totally up to you, but...

Sparkly I'm so sorry to hear about your friend, I remember you saying about her before but I didn't realise there were problems with the baby as well as with her
I'm afraid I can't think of anything anyone did that helped, I've just asked DH and he can't either. TBH I don't thinik there is anything you can do or say which will make her feel any better. The awful thing is that there are plently of things people can and do say which make you feel worse even though they don't mean to. You will probably be a lot more sensitive than most given the time you've spent on here (I'm not sure what your own history is sorry) There are a few things I would say though, and the others may have some ideas as well:

1. Don't confuse the need for support with the desire for advice - you're not a obs and gyne consultant, let them get advice from them unless of course she asks you your opinon on something
2. Don't say "I'm sure it'll be ok next time" "at least you know you can get pg" "it obviously wasn't the right time" You're not sure it'll be ok next time, you just hope it will. Knowing you can get pg isn't much comfort when you find your baby is going to die before it's even born. And "wasn't the right time" - so it was the right time for a heartbreaking mc but not the right time to have a healthy baby? I know these are all things which are meant well, but they don't help.
3. If you don't know what to say, tell her that. She'll understand that. Tell her that you wish with all your heart that there was something, anything, you could do to make her feel better but you know there probably isn't and that if she thinks of anything she should just ask you and you'll do it
4. Does she know you're pg? Tell her as soon as you feel able. Don't go to see her without telling her. It'll be really hard for her whenever she finds out, not telling her may make her feel like you've lied to her somehow, irrational I know, but how I felt.
5. The hospital took Thomas' footprints for us after he was born, I will treasure them always, would they like to do the same?
6. Remember her baby, if they name him/her, use his name, don't forget him, she never will and it hurts when people stop referring to your little one, like it's in the past and finished. Again it's only because they don't want to upset you, but the thought of them being forgotten is more upsetting.

Ok. Rant over . Hope that helps a little. Actually, the only things that gave me any peace were a meeting we had with our vicar - he came to the house (though ordinarliy we're not particularly religious). It was incredibly hard and incredibly emotional for both of us, but it was the right thing to do for us, and the other thing was a little verse I found which I can post if you'd like to hear it. Not much help I know, sorry.

kate i know it sound odd but it makes me so to know that you have the experience to be able to advise about this sort of subject i had a 2nd trimester loss but it was at 14 weeks and all of what you mentioned about what people say to try and make you feel better is what i heard and still do when i have a wobbly moment when it would have been my EDD (28th march) for that preg it is such a horrible thing to happen to anyone and people should be more sensitive to it im sorry to hear about your friend being such an insensitive arse teehee is spot on about not needing that type of 'friend' in your life. you are worth a million of those kind of people and dont you forget it!! your thomas is so special and should be remembered and not dishonoured by such a pair of horrible wretches!! {{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}} for you and your DH and lots of strength and perseverance for your visit
nowt to report here... still no AF from me. it was my best friends birthday today so we went for a meal with her to celebrate it tonight we went for a drink afterwards and i could barely stomach the taste of my FAVOURITE drink i had about half a bottle and gave the rest to DH i ended up going home by 11pm as i felt so dizzy and ill by the smell of ale so what dya all reckon to that then? i start my n ew job in the moring so wish me luck im off to bed now so speak tomorrow night
xx ei xx

Thx everyone, no news here, cd34 today. Very tempted to test but will wait until tomorrow, I think
Sounds promising for you Ei, hopefully another good sign for you
Sorry af found you on holiday HTGG, sounds like you had a relaxing time otherwise. Hopefully the 2ww doesn't feel like months rather than weeks
Quiet day at home for dd2 and I today, the financial year ended on 30/6 here so I am finalising dh's and my tax returns so I can submit them both online. Hopefully our refunds will be through about a week or two after submitting everything, gotta love an efficient tax dept, especially when they owe you money

Morning ladies, Bloody hell you lot can write!

I haven't been on cos even staring at the screen has been making me feel sick.
Plus DS has been ultra demanded lately. I can't sit down for 5 seconds without him asking for something. Right now he's moaning and whining about eating my toast..... He's just taken the biggest bite out of it I'm not good at sharing food. Especially if it's curbing my nausea. DP took 2 huge bites too before he left for work too

I actually managed to do my tax return! hooray! Much easier than I thought too I bet they still send it back to me with something I've missed They sent it back to me 3 or 4 times last year

Ok, I'm going to have a read through the posts I've missed, I'll be back soon.
Oh, just gonna update my weeks:

Piper ??.??° CD10 TTC#1
Kate2179 CD13 ttc#1 (mmc Nov 07 & mc April 08)
QueenyEi 36.43° CD29 cycle 9 14DPO TTC#2 (CP april 08 & june 08)
scully CD33 Cycle 3 TTC#3 (m/c Apr08 & Aug07)
HTGG CD37 Cycle 1 TTC#3 (MMC Nov07/MC Mar08)

Emmsy1 -- weeks pg, EDD 23 Oct)
cricri 27 weeks pg, EDD 1 November
Mibbes 22 weeks pg, EDD --
molliemooma 9 weeks pg, EDD 13th March
Fruity 8 weeks pg, EDD 22nd March
Yarnie -- weeks pg, EDD 26th March
Teeheelaydee 5 weeks pg, EDD 12th April
Sparkly 5 weeks pg, EDD April 10th-13th

Kate so sorry you have such a tough week ahead, like others have said you are more than welcome to come here and rant. I am absolutely that they have the nerve to insist the 'falling out' issue is not discussed, how dare they . I guess you'll just have to see how you feel when you see them and go with whatever feels right for you - if you need to talk about Thomas and why you are so upset just go ahead, it is their problem if they have issues with the subject. We're all here to listen whenever you need us xx.

Sparkly what a difficult situation for you and how dreadful for your friend - have you started telling people you are PG or do you plan to wait, it is so difficult to tell certain people - our best friends can't have children and it was really tricky telling them . I have no idea what you could so to make your friend feel better - I reckon Kate has given you a lot of excellent advice, you can't do anything that will make her feel better so just be there for her - it sounds like you'll be great anyway as you have a strong desire to do what is best for her xx.

Ei great news about no AF and of course aversion to fave drink ! Let's hope your new job brings an aded bonus of a BFP Best of luck for today (on both the job and the BFP...)

scully have you managed not to test ? everything crossed for you

teehee TBH I'd have to agree with Kate on the shellfish - in the long run it is a small price to pay. If you are not cooking them yourself you don't really know if they are fully cooked but it is up to you of course.

I am off work today with a really upset tummy - not sure if I ate something dodgy or have a bug but have been headachey, running to the loo and can't face food (a defintie sign all is not well for me !). Just resting and drinking water zzzzz.....

Hi Fruity cross posted - surely there was no toast left for you after those greedy boys scoffed so much of it - that is terrible robbing food from a preggy lady !

Addding my EDD

Piper ??.??° CD10 TTC#1
Kate2179 CD13 ttc#1 (mmc Nov 07 & mc April 08)
QueenyEi 36.43° CD29 cycle 9 14DPO TTC#2 (CP april 08 & june 08)
scully CD33 Cycle 3 TTC#3 (m/c Apr08 & Aug07)
HTGG CD37 Cycle 1 TTC#3 (MMC Nov07/MC Mar08)

Emmsy1 -- weeks pg, EDD 23 Oct
cricri 27 weeks pg, EDD 1 November
Mibbes 22 weeks pg, EDD 6 December
molliemooma 9 weeks pg, EDD 13th March
Fruity 8 weeks pg, EDD 22nd March
Yarnie -- weeks pg, EDD 26th March
Teeheelaydee 5 weeks pg, EDD 12th April
Sparkly 5 weeks pg, EDD April 10th-13th

Scully fantastic news that AF hasn't shown, really hoping a BFP is just around the corner for you after all the waiting you've had to do
EI How promising does that sound?? Really hope things are looking up for you too Good luck for the new job today
GG Welcome back Sorry AF got you and on holiday too TEW! But sounds like you had a lovely time and now your on the 2WW hooray, symptom spotting here we come!
TeeHee So pleased you've started telling people, it starts feeling more real then doesn't it? Just be sensible about what you eat in France, you may not get a choice if the MS kicks in (really hope it doesn't while you're away!)
Sparkly So sorry to hear about your friend and her baby, I think Kate's advice is invaluable, and definately not a good idea to hide your pg from her. You sound like a sensitive sensible person and I imagine that you will be able to offer some comfort and sympathy at the right time. What a horrible situation for everybody
Kate Like EI said it's so sad that you have had this experience, but I suppose it's sitations like this that make us the people that we are, Thomas will always have a place in yours and DP's heart and will never ever be forgotten. Your friends sound like arses and as TeeHee said you don't need people like that in your life, but I understand why DP wants to see them before Saturday. I would imagine that it is going to be incredibly awkward and I don't know how you will be civil to them, this bollocks about not wanting to talk about why they upset you, honestly are these people that selfish and shallow? Good god, I don't even know them and I don't like them! Just think kharma, and what goes around comes around, one day they will be in a situation when they need support and won't get it, I am a big believer in this and seriously their behaviour will come back and bite them in the arse in a really bad way!!
Yarnie You OK?
Fruity Sorry to hear your feeling ill, is it MS kicking in?

Mibbes Sorry to hear your poorly Hope you feel better soon

Ei well I have absolutely no idea what's going on with your chart can you feel AF yet? Weird how your temp's jumped up again. I'm excited to know what your temp is this morning!
Scully any news from you yet?
Sparkly so pleased you've finally graduated! How are you feeling. Have you heard from your poor friend yet? When will she get the results from the tests through?
Mibbes How funny about the heart beat. Your LO is just going to keep you guessing . How are you carrying your bump? They say if you put weight on everywhere it tends to be a girl and if you're all up front then it's a boy. It was certainly the case for me and my friend. I had the biggest bump I'd ever seen but only looked slightly chubbier from the back and I had a boy. My friend put weight on everywhere and had a girl - She's lost it all now and looks gorgeous btw
Mollie I'm so pleased your sickness seems to be subsiding. It must be awful It's bad enough just feeling nauseous let alone actually throwing up night and day. I've got a real sick phobia. Amazed at the weight loss. Now just be happy and eat You need to feed up that baby of yours, funny how they seem to love biscuits, cakes and chocolate isn't it
Piper How's it going with you? Any sign of ov yet?
Kate Oh poor you. Goes to show who your true friends are at bad times I hope Tuesday isn't too bad for you MAybe you all need to chat and get t out in the open. No use ignoring it unless you don't plan on seeing them again. Were you good friends before?
Georgie I'm so of your holiday but really sorry about the BFN Still it's your 1st cycle so hopefully next cycle will be a goodun
When's our meet up BTW? I've forgotten
Emmsy I hope your holiday is going well. I hope you've not had the rain we've been having here in London I keep thinking the sun's coming out so put my washing out then it buckets down. I've got huge amounts of wet washing waiting to go out to dry. I have no space to hang it in this tiny flat and I'm not using the dryer cos it's soooo expensive to use!
Cricri ooh how excting, parent craft (whats's that?) and NCT classes! Do they have ante-natal classes at your hospital too? I have to say, from what I remember about the classes at C&W they weren't that good. Very patronising. I almost felt like I could have taken the class myself! Also it was full of older "posh" mums to be who I had absolutely nothing in common with. I might not bother this time round Never done NCT before though.
Yarnie and teehee how's it going with you two?

Sparkly So sorry to hear about your friend Some people really seem to get given far more to cope with than they ever should and it's always the nice people too You sound like a fantastic friend and Kate gave you some very good advice. I guess the main thing to remember is that everybody has their own way of dealing with things and you should take your cues from her and let her talk if she needs to or not, as the case may be. Although being the sensitive person you are I'm sure you would do that anyway.
Kate So sorry you're going to have a tough week. at your friends. I know it's not the same, but I lost my dad unexpectedly 4 years ago and gradually stopped seeing those friends who didn't (or refused to) understand what I was going through. You don't need them in your life and if you continue to see them then at least you know where you stand and know you won't ever be able to rely on them for emotional support. That's how I viewed it anyway. There are some people who just don't want to or can't face up to the fact that bad things happen in life and that being a friend means being supportive. (((Hugs))) to you and feel free to rant here if you need to.
Ei Hope your first day went OK! Fingers crossed for you, and you too Scully Mibbes Hope you feel better soon
Fruity Sorry you're feeling sick too. Parentcraft classes is just the posh term the mw uses for the AN classes at the local hospital It's one day from 10am to 3.30pm so I don't suppose we'll cover that much ground. It includes a tour of a delivery suite, although given that I'm hoping to have a home birth I hope I won't need it! One of the girls on my AN thread found even the NCT classes a waste of time as she knew most of the stuff from being on Mumsnet so I'm sure you won't need them either

Hiya, no news here
My days were out by one, just updated below. Off to bed now, enjoy the rest of your Monday

Piper ??.??° CD10 TTC#1
Kate2179 CD13 ttc#1 (mmc Nov 07 & mc April 08)
QueenyEi 36.43° CD29 cycle 9 14DPO TTC#2 (CP april 08 & june 08)
scully CD34 Cycle 3 TTC#3 (m/c Apr08 & Aug07)
HTGG CD37 Cycle 1 TTC#3 (MMC Nov07/MC Mar08)

Emmsy1 -- weeks pg, EDD 23 Oct
cricri 27 weeks pg, EDD 1 November
Mibbes 22 weeks pg, EDD 6 December
molliemooma 9 weeks pg, EDD 13th March
Fruity 8 weeks pg, EDD 22nd March
Yarnie -- weeks pg, EDD 26th March
Teeheelaydee 5 weeks pg, EDD 12th April
Sparkly 5 weeks pg, EDD April 10th-13th

Hi there ladies. Thought I'd better update my stats.

Piper ??.??° CD10 TTC#1
Kate2179 CD13 ttc#1 (mmc Nov 07 & mc April 08)
QueenyEi 36.43° CD29 cycle 9 14DPO TTC#2 (CP april 08 & june 08)
scully CD34 Cycle 3 TTC#3 (m/c Apr08 & Aug07)
HTGG CD15 Cycle 2 TTC#3 (MMC Nov07/MC Mar08)

Emmsy1 -- weeks pg, EDD 23 Oct
cricri 27 weeks pg, EDD 1 November
Mibbes 22 weeks pg, EDD 6 December
molliemooma 9 weeks pg, EDD 13th March
Fruity 8 weeks pg, EDD 22nd March
Yarnie -- weeks pg, EDD 26th March
Teeheelaydee 5 weeks pg, EDD 12th April
Sparkly 5 weeks pg, EDD April 10th-13th

Kate what wonderful words of advice. This is what I love about this thread. Everyone helps each other out. There's no ulterior motives. Just plain old fashioned kindness. We weren't stayine anywhere near Kalkan. Doh! Got it worng. Staying near Datca on SW penninsular of Turkey. Still bloody nice though!

Sparkly So sorry to hear about your friend. it's wonderful that you're being so supportive. I wish some of my 'friends' had been so lovely when I had my m/c's.

Scully Any news yet? Am getting butterflies in my tummy for you!

Ei Hope first day at work went well. Do you feel like the new kid at school?!

Fruity We're meeting on 20th Sept in Wim Vill. There's a new swanky coffee shop called Le Pain Quotdian (I think!)on the corner next to Cath Kidston. How's the MS? Still feeling grotty? Tried Lucozade? We did parentcraft classes at Patrick Doody Clinic in Wim. Total waste of time. Got told off by HV for saying you can bath baby in kitchen sink rather than buying baby bath..... silly mare!

Mollie Glad your MS has eased off. Now you can enjoy your pg (as much as possible) without having your head down the pan 24/7.

Emmsy Hope you're having a nice holiday.

Mibbes Hope you feel better soon. Am sending you nice cup of tea and some home baked bread with jam on.

TeeHee Just stuff your face with cakes! Maybe a quiche or two? Think they are ok? Hope you have very romatic rendevous with DP!

Hi to everyone else.

Who's stolen the sun????????
xxxx

Georgie Coffee shop sounds fab, what does everyone else think? Maybe we can organise a time nearer the time. Who's coming? I've forgotten! What was the HV reason for not bathing a baby in a sink? Can't see what the problem would be. It's how babies were washed years ago! In fact DS was bathed in a kitchen sink when we stayed with family once

I haven't tried Lucozade for the sickness but I have been drinking lots of Fanta/Orangina. Weird cos I never ever drink fizzy drinks. Ive completely gone off sugar free squash which I used to drink loads of (as I cant stand plain water). My body's way of reducing artificial sweeteners I suppose

Cricri actually, now I think about it I think it was called Parentcraft classes when I was having DS I seem to recognise the name now. I think it's a good idea to go if your a 1st time parent as you have no idea what to expect. That's if they are any good!
I imagine NCT to be a bit better as you have to pay for them. Or I like to think so anyway

I've got my 9 year old mindee back. She's been staying by the seaside for the last two weeks and has brought me back a big stick of rock I'm munching as I type!
She's tearing up old bank statements and bills for me as I have a humongous pile of them. I managed to reduce 2 bulging boxes of papers to just one have empty one. I can't believe I even had bills/statements from 2005!

Sorry to rush off before. We were going swimming and I was running late. I'm exhausted now though so DP has taken DD to visit his mother so I can have a rest. [yawn]
Thank you all for your kind words and advice re: my friend. I'm sorry I've rambled on so much about it but I've been so worried about her.

Ei and Scully I can't believe you're both STILL being given the run around. I really hope you both get some answers soon.
Fruity Hooray for tax return!! I'm really alright at the moment; more tired than normal but no sickness yet. Hope you're feeling better soon.
Cricri I found that I was already aware of most of the things they told us in NCT but it was worth it because I made some fantastic friends. I hope it's the same for you.
HTGG This weather is so miserable, isn't it .

Afternoon ladies, hope everyone is having a nice Monday. I am just home from work and am about to curl up on sofa for a bit. It is such a relief to put my trackies on as whenever I eat anything it feels like my skirt is about to pop. v/attractive I'm sure.

HTGG Yes I think I will make it all about the cakes. As for the romance I read on the internet the other day (so obv must be true) that you shouldn't bd in week 8 or at all until agter week 12 if concerned about mc. So bearing in mind I won't even have a bath at the moment I'm not sure it will DP's idea of romance! Can't wait to see him, hope I get a copy of the scan to put in his birthday card. Hope your relaxing holiday brings BFP at end of 2ww.

Sparkly Bring on the symptoms - yey

Kate Had another thought about your 'friends'. It sounds as if they are pretty shallow really so it may not be too bad as conversation can be kept to the surface stuff. The other alternative is you get outrageously drunk and behave appaulingly.

Fruity I love it when you can persaude children that a chore is fun-well done! Perhaps you can get her to do all your accounts!

hahaha good idea Teehee I've still got to catch up with my accounts from June

As we're on the subject of NCT. I assumed, as a couple of my friends went to them, they can't be that expensive. How wrong was I! I've just had a look on the website. Ouch, I think I'll be needing all that spare cash to pay towards my mortgage at maternity allowance time Apparently I fall into band 'C' so there's no chance. I thought it might be something like a fiver a class or something. I'm obviously in the wrong job. Perhaps we should all get together and start our own ante natal classes
Think I'll stick to the free ones if I go at all

Hello ladies, lovely to hear from you all Thank you for all your kind words, it's great to know I can talk to you all, in a way you can't always do in RL. Teehee I love your suggestion about getting drunk and behaving appallingly, it's like you've already met me! Am meant to be starting a trial tomorrow so that will probably dictate whether I can have much to drink... watch this space!

Ei & Scully I can't believe you're STILL being given the run around, it's like our bodies do it on purpose, just to see how much we can take Really hope you get some (GOOD) news soon!
Ei hope today went really well, how about a nice fat BFP tonight to finish it off?

Sparkly I can't believe how much your friend has had to cope with! As long as she knows you are there for her, which it sounds like she definitely does, all you can do it let her cope in her own way. Fantastic that you told her about your pg in the way that you did, so much better than having to do it now. Wishing you and her lots of love and support, we're all here whenever you need us

Mollie I loved Georgie's comment to you - we may find it difficult to enjoy pg with our various histories, but it's nothing that couldn't be made worse by having to have your head down the pan 24/7! Glad you're feeling a bit better lovely. You too Fruity. Good to see that Mibbes has come out in support of those suffering from ms, very generous of you to throw up too Mibbes! Hope you feel better soon too

Anyone seen Yarnie around recently? Methinks she is likely working too hard.

Georgie what's the best way from Waterloo for our meet-up on 20th? Though I have recently banned myself from Cath Kidston on the basis that I have some sort of compulsive shopping problem so not really sure I ought to come...!

Hi Cricri , thank you for your lovely message Hope you are currently getting bigger by the day

HTGG Just to let you know that I'm planning to come on the 20th I think I'll drive, unless I combine our meet-up with other business in London. Where is best to park in Wimbledon? Perhaps you could also give us the exact address of the coffee shop so that I can get directions off the internet beforehand. I'm really looking forward to it and it sounds like a great venue
Sparkly I'm looking forward to NCT classes for the very reason you mention - making new friends. All my friends who have done them are still in touch with most of the other couples they met so I'm hoping it will be the same for us. Fruity the classes are expensive but I think you can pay in instalments. They also do refresher courses for non-first timers which are probably more reasonable. Like you I'm not looking forward to the time I have to claim Maternity Allowance I informed one of my clients today that I would be stopping work in mid-October and not starting again until the new year (at least that's my plan at the moment). Fortunately they were fine about it.
Teehee When is your scan? Is it on Friday? I'm sorry I can't remember
Mibbes Hope you're feeling better.