Bonkers Anonymous......so much more than just a ttc thread (and where there's no such thing as TMI)

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Hi guys
Here is the lovely new thread. Maybe we might get some newbies as well?!?!?

Aloha fair ladies! I am better!

CB - Loving Thomasland! I've just checked out the website. Don't think I'll be able to persuade DH to drive me to Staffordshire to ride on some small trains though...

Dawn - Fingers-crossed for the implantation bleed theory! Can't believe you aren't a temp-charter yet! I'd haev thought you'd have had a dedicated diary for that too!? I am sad enough to have made an excel spreadsheet specially for the purpose which overlays each month on a graph so I can see any patterns...God I need to get out more!?

hattscat - welcome to the flock!

CE - hooray for holidays!

HC - glad the caravan trip was more successful than anticipated!

detox - about the -ive. But this is the Summer of Love thread...and I'm feeling VERY positive for us all about the next few months. It's be Spring babies all round!

RANT - Now I've fairly recently moved house and I'm not sure we chose our new GP surgery with enough thought - we simply opted for the nearest one for convenience. This was a mistake. It looks nice enough, but neither my husband and I have been particularly impresed with the actual level of care. The main objective is clearly to get patients in and out asap. In the past, I've sometimes had GPs like this but rarely practice nurses - they seem to have been more chatty in my experience. Anyway... so yesterday i go for my smear test. See the nurse, who I've never met before, and she asks my name and nothing else. I lie down she does the dead; I get up, get dressed. She says, have you had a ny children, and I say no, but we've just started trying. This is the point where I think the chat mights start...her reminding me to take folic acid etc, and me askign anythign I felt like...instead. She said good luck and close the door on your way out! I left thinking that there may be plenty girls out there that maybe need a bit more advice about this, like understanding cycles, having balanced diet, folic acid etc etc and the y wouldn't be told. Just seemed like such a wasted oppourtunity for the surgery not to better inform people. Anyway...that was just my thought for the day...

Hi to everyone who I haven't mentioned...really MUST do some work though!

Flirty x

Oh no, I accidently previewed my post and didn't post it!! There's been loads more messages since...sorry guys!

Dawn - sorry about the bleeding...but you never know. If it is AF, perhaps your cycle has shortened?? Next month...

HC - sorry about the argument! You're right, it's not fair on DD1! Bloomin' men! Hope the sports day goes good and sorry for the BFN! I'm not going to bother testing. I'm so convinced it hasn't happened this month...so will just wait for AF and start again. What symptoms do you have this month?? I think you're definitely still in with a chance!!

Ceebee - Thomas land would be awesome for this weekend and my babysitting...but I'm too far south. But the pix are lovely!!!

BSL x

Morning all,

Bluestar liking the attitude ? it?s not over until AF sings - but yes definately try some charting! Temping wouldn?t suit me as I work irregular hours and I think you need to temp 1st thing in the morning, same time every day, right? I really liked the clarity of CB digital OPK but it?s not cheap. Cheaper than a couple of depressing BFN test every 2ww though...

Flirty so happy you?re better today. That?s crap level of care. Not on. . Can you change GPs? Don?t know where you?re based but perhaps have alook at local MN thread/group and ask around?

HC how was WW? You look v trim in your pics.

Hattscat lovely age!

CE I know! Feeling queezy already but so far I don?t mind . Sounds like an amazing holiday, I?m v jealous. Will you bring loads of books & mags?

Detoxdiva I?m sorry. Sending good vibes to you & crossing everything.

MJIM 28+1, well done you! Which stroller did you get?

Ceebee so happy you had a great time ? his eyes! Aaw, he is so cute & happy! You should enjoy a rest today, you deserve it.

mrsleroyjethrogibbs lovely! Pretty close then & good friends?

Dawn fingers crossed for you ? not over until it?s over - & good luck with temping ? sounds like it may really suit you.

Soosy thank you so much! BIG congratulations on offer accepted! xx

Love to everyone else.

I?m seeing GP on Monday for info and to make the Booking Appt. Will do some work now & prepare for two sets of over night guests: Wed-Thurs (childhood friend + DP) & Sat-Sund (our wedding witnesses + their lovely dog). Take care all. xx

I am out for this month AF arrived on Monday, So had a few large glasses of wine last night. Going to remain positive and try even harder this month
Good luck to everyone else

Gosh, so BUSY on here the last few days, and I've missed it all!

Have read as much as my short lunch today allows me to. Just wanted to say, DawnAS - tis possible to ov twice in one month, and if you have then even more chance of a BFP. You must be feeling all over the place with those symptoms. So hard to know what's happening. Sometimes your body just seems to know you are trying, and does freaky things, I think. Two months before I had a BFP in Jan AF came a week early, which has NEVER happened to me before.

myjobismum Just wanted to say hi - would have been one day behind you, and often think of the October thread girls. I've had to resist lurking, but it's good to 'see' you, and hear how you're doing. I know I won't be able to stop myself from checking out the births in October .

Mandy - keep bouncing and making us smile. Hope that babydust is catching.

Did a meditation course this weekend. Feel quite good, and am hoping that all the calming and positive thoughts will combine with next month's planned BD fest to create the desired effect!

Oh, flirty, just read your post, and had to say this: we did the same as you in choosing our GP surgery. When I was 8 weeks pg (I can feel my heart rate increasing and blood pressure rising as I write this - so much for Zen meditation-like state ), I had a horrendous experience with my GP. I won't go into details, but myjob might remember the massive rant I posted afterwards. He totally patronised me, and freaked me out. Wouldn't answer any of my questions, etc. I'd always had doubts about him, and changed surgery the next day. Best thing I ever did, as I mc'd three weeks later and they were incredibly supportive. I know it would have made things so much worse if I'd had to go back to him. Remember, too, that when you're pg there are all sorts of things you might need to see your GP/practice nurse about (some unrelated to the pregnancy), so you need to feel really comfortable. Also, need to feel that they'll be there for you when baby arrives, and not make you feel like your being fussy/neurotic or whatever, if you need care for baby.

Sorry for the rant, but I feel really strongly about this - if you have any doubts about them, I would change now!

hi ladies,
yes pretty close togeather and get on very well.
sorry to hear you are out for the month chestercat

Hi all

Just grabbing a few mins with the laptop and cuppa while dd sleeps (should be tidying up but, pah!)

Ceebee - Thomasland sounds great - dd would love it, and your ds is adorable!

BSL - sorry you're not feeling hopeful about this month - lets declare war together next month - those dh's won't know what's hit them!!

Flirty - that's terrible! I would look into another practice asap. When you are pg you want to feel more comfortable with the care than ever.

HC - sorry to hear things are a little tense with dh. I hope he makes it to sports day, like you say for your dd's sake. Maybe a bottle of wine and a quiet evening together is what's needed to clear the air & make way for some positve bd'ing vibes? Could it be he's feeling the pressure of ttc too? I'm very aware of trying not to make dh feel like he's only wanted for one thing at the moment . (Even if he is!!)

MJIS - loving the stroller! Tres chic

CC - sorry to hear about af. Enjoy the wine and fingers crossed for a positive result this month

Hi to anyone I've missed!

Had a nightmare morning (involved a train and 2.5 yo and a trip to the DVLA office to get my car taxed - can you imagine!!) The office was a bit of a trek from the station, and on the first floor (no lifts). It was all I could do not to ram my new tax disc down the neck of the jobsworth woman who told me to move my buggy from the corridor as it was a 'fire risk'. The office was about 10 foot x 10 foot and had about 20 people in it - where exactly did she want me to put it??? I had a few ideas!

Right - off to wave the vacuum about briefly - see you all soon x

Hi all!

AF was due yesterday (you remembered HC!)

And so was ebay pg test! grr!! Nothing today either...was in post 1st class mail saturday!!

Well at least it strings out the excitement of not knowing and if I am up duff will give me a nice bfp line...so no not being sure if the line is there or not or is it an evaperation line ...will now have to wait till Thursday to test (post gets to mine at 1pmish...) unless I hold my morning wee till 1pmish tomorrow? How desparate am I to know?...Really wondering if it is possible to hold from 6am til 1.30pm say...7 and a half hours...........

Why does this seem to drag out forever I've only been trying for a month!! So nice to read everything you all put tho...never had opportunity last time I was ttc and I just love reading all the symptoms...someone said they felt 'full', I too feel that and think perhaps my pelvic floor is a bit lower ...no more cramping tho...boobs still a bit full and sensitive...feel a tiny bit queasy with food on occasion but not consistantly...and all this is probably in my head! And AF will arrive 10 days late like it has last 2 months...actually that is a point...if it has been 10 days late my cycle must have changed and don't need to test for another 9 days...................oh god! nooooooooooooooooo!

MJIM - oops! I honestly thought you were in the Midlands but I must have got you mixed up with someone else That stroller is fab

Chester - so sorry that AF arrived - have the wine and get it out of your system and then jump back on the bandwagon

HC - how did sports day go? How did DD1 do?

Ally - yes, that wait does go on forever - no-one tells you these things when you first trying to TTC!! Fingers crossed for you!

Daisy - sorry you had such a s**t time with your first doctor. You are right that it is important to think about after the baby is born aswell as you have to feel comfortable taking the baby to see them, even if the issues are minor ones.

Hi to everyone else - should be tidying up some clothes but the call of MN is too strong

x

Detox and DaisyJ - thank for the comments! I was really horrified when i thought about the whole experience afterwards. I consider myself pretty clued up and educated and also quite capable of seeking help and asking questions when I need to...BUT...I know that this is not everyone, and the practice don't know me from Adam (or Eve!) so shouldn't assume that I'll just shout if I need help. Surly they should volunteer information. Just basic stuff, like if you're TTC, we recommend you take Folic Acid...?

This is not the first time I've been unimpressed with them.

Trouble is...there is a really nice surgery that I know near us and I'd like to switch to it, but, I called the local Primary Healthcare Trust and they told me that I couldn't just switch GP practices if I wasn't new to the area. I might try and do it anyway, but apparently local practices aren't keen to have people switching between them. I take on board that I have to be comfortable with them though...

Hmmm...think I will tackle this again...

Flirty x

Flirty - you are right to try and change. It should be natural to them to ask you if you need any advice. When I had my coil removed the nurse was asking me about my plans, was I taking Folic acid, as well as general questions about my other dd. That's not just their job, but you would think that if they are in that profession then it would be obvious to them to offer support? Good luck with the change

chestercat-so sorry that AF arrived. Witch! CD2 for you so not long until you can start BDing. Wine is very beneficial sometimes

ally-ooh, can't wait to hear the result tomorrow. What you have to do is save your first wee in a jug and use this to test. Although, as you are past your due date you can use any time of the day wee.

Mandy-I lost another 1.5 lb at WW So have had an ice cream and am about to start on the BH.

MJIM-lovely stroller. I have got this urge to buy a new big M&P pram but know I wouldn't use it for long and only the carry cot part of it and my stroller was bought new for DD2 as suitable from birth.

detox-DH has taken DD1 to his mum and dad's for tea. They normally collect her from school on a Tuesday-he didn't as me to go with them.

Sports day was lovely and DH came home in a great mood as if nothing had happened. We arrived at school in our keep fit clothes only to find nobody else was wearing theirs so went back home and changed so was a tad late and missed the dance routine they had prepared. DD2 got 2 2nd's and 2 3'rds so was very proud of her. I ran in the mum's race and wasn't ready when the klaxon went off so combined with my inability to run I was nearly last. Saved from last place only by one mum tripping up.

Right, off to get some vino. Waves to everyone else.

HC
x

HC ? sorry to hear about your ongoing arguments with dh. As has been said, it could be the pressure of ttc? (I have had similar in this house!) LOL at you running in the mum?s race at sports day!
Detox- so sorry about yet another BFN. It?s still not over so don?t give up!
Flirty ? glad you feel better now. How odd about the doctors I would def try to switch! Pmsl at the excel spreadsheet! (You make me look laid back!)
Ceebee ? glad ds had a great day at thomasland. The pictures are adorable! I could just eat him alive! Drayton manor is quite a way from us (a couple of hours) but it could be worth a visit one day!
Ally ? wow! You sooooo must be pg! I agree with HC ? pee in a jug then keep it til the post comes! You must let us know what happens!
Mrsleroy ? hope you are ok today
Daisyj ? great rant ? and grrr about the doctors. Meditation course sounds interesting. I think I may need something similar if I am to overcome my fear of hospitals!
Chestercat ? sorry to hear AF arrived . You sound quite positive about it though, and wine def helps! Good Luck for this month!
Mjim ? great pushchair! Glad ds allowed you to chat today!
Mandy ? good luck at the doctors! It?s sooooo exciting isn?t it!
Bluestar ? when is AF due? Sorry if you have already said ? I?m rubbish! Keep positive!
Dawn ? sorry about the bleeding. It still might not be AF though! Keep us updated won?t you. Fingers crossed for you xx

Hope I haven?t missed any replies! (I did this on word!)
It?s a lovely sunny evening here so we are going out for a little walk ?only 5 school days left! Woo hoo!!!!

flirty, check out this page on the right to choose a new doctor. Sorry, can't work out how to make it a proper link

www.bbc.co.uk/dna/collective/A1183015

I would approach the sugery direct. I just called the surgery I wanted to join, then called my old surgery to tell them I wanted to transfer. I think you PCT was just trying to put you off - certainly what they told you is just plain wrong, as far as I can tell.

I had exactly the same thoughts as you about how some people don't have the education and resoures to ask the questions - it does make you wonder who is protecting them. I felt so vulnerable and disempowered when that doctor got to me - NOT my normal state (although it could have had something to do with the hormones, too)!

Let us know what happens.
x

rofl at HC at the sports day - think the only way I wouldn't be last in a race would be if someone else tripped up (or I tripped them up !)

Hope you and dh get some time to talk later .

CE - lol, glad I am not the only one. I wonder if MJIM deliberately misled us about her whereabouts one day

DH been working in London today and I can't be bothered cooking so asked him to stop at the chippy on his way home

x

CE - I'm DPO7/8. I'm guessimating a 30 day cycle so I'm due on around 24th/25th, but it could be earlier as from OV it's supposed to 14 days...right? So who knows maybe AF will come next Tuesday/Wednesday. I have to admit to really not enjoying this 2WW...[grrr-emoticon]

HC - has DH come back from dinner yet?

Flirty - I must say surgeries are such a hit or miss! When I had my IUD taken out, I was useless. The doctor had to ask me what I planned next and then gave me loads of guidance on folic acid and how often to BD...I wasn't expecting any of that.... So I would say, you're having a dodgy experience and should try and do something about it!

MJIM - I meant to say earlier that I love the stroller! It's funky-looking!

DD - still no sign of AF??

Ally - I'm looking forward to hearing how tomorrow goes!! More good news please!

Daisy - let us all know how chilled and relaxed the meditation course makes you...hints and tips welcome here!!

Hi to everyone else!

BSL x

Hey All,

I know! I said I wouldn't be logging on until tomorrow, but I just couldn't resist chatting to you girls!!

HC - PMSL about your sports day capers!! Is it compulsory that when you have children you HAVE to do the Mum's race?! Went to my nephews school fete a few weeks ago and they were doing Country-dancing and asked for parents to get up so my sister got up with her long gangly legs - my poor nephew was so embarassed that he came and sat down with us - Congrats on the WW - well done you!! x

Flirty - Hey babe, I'm glad you're feeling better! You should steal Crunchy's name because you really are a nutter!! Love ya though - you and your excel spreadsheet!! Actually, maybe I should do a word document with all my symptoms and then accidentally send it to my boss - who is a man!! Not quite sure what he'd do about that one....

CE Hello there lovely, hope you had a really nice walk!! Ahhhh school summer holidays.... of course the difference is that the sun used to shine the whole time when we were young.... I remember making grass houses in massive empty fields and spending lovely sunny days in them... Ahhhhh

Daisyj - Hi there and thanks so much for the info on OVing, I didn't know that you could OV twice, although someone did jokingly suggest that you could release egg from one side and then the other but I can't remember from the first OV weekend, which side the pain was!!

Hey Ceebee and DD!! Welcome ally!!

Hey Mandy and MJIM, still no real bleeding and I'm only getting cramps in the morning, it's really odd. From early afternoon my CM is yellowy and no pain at all. A couple of new symptoms to add to the mix this morning. Felt really queasy (but not as far as to say nauseous) this morning, tummy just felt odd. Once I'd eaten at lunchtime that went aswell. Then this evening, lifted up my arm and as my top rubbed my nipple (sorry about the TMI guys...), it tingled. Strange since I don't really have any feeling there after the op. Did it again and felt the same thing. Really odd - never felt it before!!

Unfortunately, another symptom that I've got today (not related to PG I'm sure) is that my throat is hurting on one side so I might be getting a cold - boo hoo ...

BSL - are you still holding on from testing babe?! I'm determined not to do anything until after my AF date has passed.

Had a long chat with my Mum yesterday and asked her lots of questions about the 5 pregnancies that she had. Her cycles used to fluctuate between 40 and 45 days!! She fell with my eldest sibling in 2 months, I was a mistake (cheers Mum....), middle sister took 3 months, youngest sister took 2 years and my brother was another mistake. Also, with my middle sister and youngest, she bled virtually every 6 weeks through the pregnancies.

So it just goes to show that all these things that seem like obstacles, don't have to be. When she was TTC, the only thing she used was Temping - they didn't have OPKs then - - was surprised they had Thermometers!! So, there's hope for all of us!!!

xxx

PS: Welcome to all the new people - apologies if I missed people off!!

Dawn,

I'm hanging on in there! But very rah!

I'm trying my hardest not to symptom spot, but it's not working! I've spent more time today in tears...poor DH was also working from home today, so suffered the brunt of it.

Also I'm getting shooting pains in my boobs. It's not really painful, just twinges that shoot down each side. I've also had to tell DH not to hug me tight, cos he crushes them and it hurts. It feels like I've some some seriously aggressive trampolining with no bra on.... Of course could be an AF symptom...but I've never felt this before.

Here I go again...these 2 weeks are hell!!!

How are you coping? I'm thinking the bleed was implantation...all good symptoms so far too!

BSL x

Hey BSL,

One of the ladies at work knows that we're trying and I've been discussing symptoms with her and she just said "I really wouldn't dwell on it too much, it could be nothing!" - like I don't know that it could be nothing and that I'm hanging on by a thread!! But when they tell you not to dwell on it - what planet are they on?!!

Anyway, let's keep everything crossed (even the legs this time - may prevent AF visiting!!)

xxx

Oooh - dawn and bsl - we're all in the same boat. It's cd 36 and no af- grrr, but tested -ive this morning . I keep analysing everything little thing as a pg symptom. No cm to speak of since I think I was ov (cd 24) - if that was 14 before af due then I've got another 2/3 days to wait - agghhhh, it's driving me insane!

Keeping my fingers crossed for you 2 - hope we all get some +ive results soon!!!

Hey DD,

Well at least one of us should get a +ive I would hope!

How long is your Cycle normally? Mine has been 35 days for the last 3 months, which is why I'm so confused because currently on CD26!! It's 7/8 days since OV for me and they reckon that implantation takes place around day 8 on average. Strange though that I got dark lines on the OPK two weekends in a row (the first weekend I was just using one for the first time to see what I had to do!!).

So, if I do get AF tomorrow, I'm going to look on it as a good sign, that my cycle may be changing back to 28 days!!

Of course, I will be gutted, but it is only Cycle 1!!

xxx

detox - my AF always comes 14 days after ov, no matter how much ov itself moves around! 11-14 days (luteal phase) is the norm apparently, as any less than this might be too short for implantation to fully occur and the hormones to build up enough to stop AF. Does this makes sense? I only know this as I thought at one point, before temping, that my luteal phase was only 10 days, but turns out I was wrong!

bluestar - our AF might be due the same day! Mine is due prob next weds! Can we hold hands?