***Lets support eachother again- you know who you are ***

[mummy2olivia]

charliesmum, nandos, beakas, sugr, cornflower, poppy, becky and everyone else who miscarried in may/june 2008....

We have all been very brave together and supported eachother. For those of us that are ready, it may be time to support eachother again as we return to TTC. Lets hold hands, remember our loss and give a nod to the future as we endeavour to procreate and............

SHAG!!

As promised, a thread to stay in touch. Will also see you on the MC avengers thread.

Hi everyone! Mamma mia, here I go again!

Did a all whistles and bells pg test today, a digital one with like gold plating and diamond studs and everything and it was still negative. So I conclude that the missing AF is not caused by a baby! Which is fine. So I rang the doctor's to get an appointment and they said 'well it's not urgent so ring again after Christmas'. Pah! So I am truly in limbo still. I'm also really worried there's something wrong with me or that that's it for me and babies now. But I am such a glass is half empty person.

mbm hang you mistletoe up in your house and grab your DH for a big snog!!!!! At every available opportunity

poppy hope your AF either comes soon or stays away for the right reasons!

I've got DS1 a macano robot and DS2 a Bob the Builder laptop!

I've still got to wrap the 'father christmas' presents though: FC is getting them a book each, a DVD, a pack of pants, a hat each, some cars, little toys, etc, an orange and chocolate.

Off to my dad and stepmother's today to exchange presents. It is my dad's birthday as well today.

Hope you are ok Nandos and not feeling too sicky. It will be worth it! Think how hard your little beanie is working at the moment.

Boo m2o! Hope you are well too!

Have a nice day everyone

AF HAS JUST ARRIVED!!!! I've never been so happy to be bleeding ever, ever! I am soooo pleased. Usually I am in tears when this happens. I've never been 10 days late before! What a fuss I made! I feel quite ashamed now...

Oh what a relief!!! Well done for not going absolutely crazy not knowing what was going on!

Don't feel ashamed at all - any of us would've been just as worried. Am so glad that it's now resolved, let's hope that next time AF is late for a much better reason

Lots of love x

Oh, thats good news that AF is here finally Becky..you got me worried for a while when it went missing..
you really need to find out why AF is late though..it might interfere with your ttc.
Hope you ladies would have got all the pressies wrapped up and getting everything ready for the holidays..
its going to be a long weekend for us too

btw i just came by to see how all of you are..
i dont wanna complain too much abt myself being sick n throw up but its just getting a bit too exaggerating at times. i hate the sick feeling i know i dont have the right to complain cos' its taken me this long to conceive again n that i should be happy..and i am i just wish the sickness would go away soon.

well goodnight all n sleep tight..

Oh becky glad your AF has showed up at last, it would have been great if it hadn't and you were pg but itdoes get worrying when all the tests are neg and it is still not here. GRRR

Mine came with a bang last night about 10pm and by the time I went to bed I was still in agony. Have hung mistletoe up in kitchen. Please let the spell work. I feel like a mad desperado . Ds often comes out with spooky comments and tonight he asked me about the "bunch of flowers" on the worktop and said you had to say it 9 times! I was gobsmacked as we have not discussed this with him and then he proceeded to laugh and say "I want a baby" "I want a baby" etc etc. He must know me really well .

Have finished xmas shopping at last. Will have a bit of a wrappathon tomorrow and also go and deliver some (previously wrapped ones).

nandos don't feel bad for grumbling - it is vile feeling sick all the time even when it is for the best possible reason. Hope it passes soon. How many weeks are you now?

MBM Hope you had a nice time at your dad's.

My parents were supposed to be taking their cat to the vet for his first top up booster today and he completely vanished. They were v upset and out calling/looking for him and had to cancel appt as he was nowhere to be seen. Then 2 hours later he appeared. Turned out he had got locked in neighbours garage. They are glad he is safe but he must have been going mad hearing them call for him but being trapped! What a mad moggy.

Oh Nandos of course you can complain!!!! That's the paradox of pregnancy. We want it soooo badly but it makes us feel like shite when we get it!! I think there should be some way we could just have a day off when we're pregnant, just feel normal for a day and then it would make it easier to cope with feeling crap again. It must be hard feeling sick at Christmas too

Children are very perceptive. My DS1 asked me a couple of weeks ago for a new baby. But then he said 'I'd like a hundred babies!' I told him the house wasn't big enough and they'd all want to play with his toys so he said 'hmmm, maybe not then'.

Poppy glad your parents' cat is ok! Our cat had her booster this month too. She's really placid though. Since we moved house she's being terrorized by a big black bruiser cat that lives on the corner. He is huge and his sits on our garden fence eyeballing our cat. She's so scared of him.

I'm in full flow now. Oh don't you just love periods? This'll be the first time I've ever had a period at Christmas! How I've managed in 25 odd years not to is a miracle!

hi everyone..
seems all of you are getting busier by the hour!
i have managed to puke like 3 times in the morning at different times and please please tell me this is gonna get better???
getting out of control here can u see am slowly going insane lol
poppy, poor kitty
am a cat lover and can cuddle them whole day
becky, a hundred kids!! omg how on earth are r you gonna feed them n clothe them? kidding!
MBM, hope you are doing well..

Hello!

Have to be quick (how come I always say that ) just wanted to pop on before I completely run out of energy...

M2O Have been thinking of you today. I think your due date was today wasn't it? Hope you're doing okay. Am sending you a big hug.

Nandos Yes, it WILL get better. For now you just have to concentrate on getting through each day. Don't think longer term than that. It is the toughest thing to have to do if you have sickness so badly. I'm thinking of you, and am hoping in a funny way that I'll be joining you in a couple of months, although you'll have finished feeling sick by then and will be in the blooming stage! Just eat and drink what you can, and if it comes back it comes back. I hope you are not doing anything - if you've got it bad you won't be able to do much other than lie there and try to exist anyway. It is hell, I know .

Becky Happy Birthday for tomorrow! Hope you have a good day! Do you get seperate pressies or joint b'day and chrimbo ones?

Poppy Sorry to hear AF started properly. After saying you were spotting I thought maybe it could have been something other than AF if you know what I mean.

Oh my goodness me... I am KNACKERED . I have got so very much to do and not enough time to do it in! HELP!!! Have managed to ice the Christmas cake, am cooking veggie lasagne for tonight and then have to make mince pies later. Argh! Wish i could bottle some of ds' energy

In case I don't get chance to come on tomorrow Happy Christmas girls, albeit a tinged with sadness one . Lets hope that this time next year we are all complaining about sleepless nights

Lots of love, and a big Christmas hug to you all xxx

Hello

Nandos poor, poor you. It will get better. In fact in a few months time you'll have forgotten how horrible it was...and you'll always remember this Christmas.

M2O big hug from me too. Christmas this year is going to be tinged with sadness for us due in December lot.

I've just been to a christingle Christmas Eve service with my sister and her children and my mum and it was so nice and Christmassy. It made me feel grateful that I have friends and family with me as there a lot of people who don't. I have spent Christmas alone when I was in Japan and it was hell. Even though they don't do Christmas there it was still horrible!

The DSs are watching Raymond Briggs Father Christmas on TV before going to bed. They are bursting with excitement (but then so am I).

I do get mostly individual presents because I used to moan about joint ones. Now I moan about joint Christmas ones with DH. In fact (bah humbug ungrateful cow alert) I hate joint presents with DH because we tend to get kitchen things which he goes orgasmic over and I think 'hmmm, I suppose that is, useful!' I can't get excited about a Jamie Oliver herb grinder.

Anyway, Merry Christmas to you all and I'll probs be back here on Boxing Day! Tomorrow will be a no laptop zone I think.

Poppy it sucks bleeding at Christmas!

Hello- have missed you all! have lurked to check you are all ok but have been really busy and wanted to post properly not just a quick one!

Well, am fully recovered after the lap and dye, feel fine and even started TTC this month!! Was due on couple of days ago but ov'd late and tests are negative and cramps are here so just ready for a practise again in a couple of weeks!! As you all know, me and DH are about as fertile as a pair of pandas so am expecting a long wait! Would be due date was on Wednesday (thanks for remembering me guys!) Worked extra hard at work to try and keep my mind off it and felt ok. Was a bit choked today cos DH told me that MIL had remembered and even tried to put off a relative who had a baby last week from visiting while I was there- felt really guilty for thinking MIL didnt care when actually, I think she does. In fact, have had a fantastic Christmas at the in-laws- I really do love them so much . We had a great time together and had a real giggle- it was just what I needed.

DH has been his usual absolutely gorgeous amazing self- I just love him so much it bloody hurts!!! He got me a gorgeous Ted Baker top for Christmas that I had been hankering after (my tits were slightly too big for it though and when I put it on, the buttons flew off! bloody AF tits!) and he got me a beautiful Tissot watch as a surprise and he was just gorgeous all day! I do love him- I know I go on about him a fair bit but I just wish you all could meet him- all my friends love him!

Am feeling a bit down about TTC again- I hate it!!!!! its all I can think about- every twinge. every ache!! AAAAGGGGGGHHHHHH!!! Am all prepared though- vits and agnus castus + spell (!) + lots of sex + zita west book + new acupuncturist in new year ( old one who I absolutely adored is on fucking maternity leave just when I need her most of all so have mentally fallen out with her! HA! new one is a zita west affiliate though and local) + positive mental attitude (bollocks) + positive visualisation = BABY. right? guys? right???? I need to get the 'it will happen, just be patient' frame of mind going on- I love that frame of mind- the confidence in your own body and knowing it will happen- can't seem to muster that up just yet! I will get there egg me on guys!!!!

BECKY Glad AF arrived! at last!! I am only 2 days late now and it has drove me mad so god knows how you must have felt! poor you. We can be almost cycle buddies now and compare notes. it will be good to support eachother- went on another TTC thread but missed you guys too much so am goona stay on here and the 'TTC no.1 forever thread'cos know a few others on there.

NANDOS Sorry to hear you are feeling so sick hun- completely symapthise as I was sick every day with Liv. Pleased to see all seems to be going well though- am keeping everything crossed that there is a happy end to your long journey.

POPPY I have done a spell!! I bought the luxury spell off Mia Angel on ebay- she is so nice and the stuff I got is lovely- I have lots of crystals and charms to keep with me and all in a lovely box. Made me laugh cos she sent some rose quartz with a not saying it would help me sleep if I put it under my pillow. Well, havent been sleeping well so put it under and in the middle of the night it rayttled down the back of my bed and woke me up with a right jump- so much for restful sleep!! Like you say though- nothing ventured, nothing gained- I tell DH that we need every base covered!

MBM- Thanks for worrying about me- I am ok! Will be so excited when you can TTC again too- I will hope and pray that everything will be ok this time! When is the cons appt? Mine should hopefully be in feb/march. Hope you are well

Am just uploading my christmas photos onto Facebook and thought that if any of you are on there and would like to add me as a friend then you are welcome to- I am not a raving weirdo honest!! you can see the photos of my family then. If you want to then let me know and I'll e-mail you my full name (dont want to put it on here in case RL friends see my innermost thoughts that I only share with you guys!!)

Anyway- this has turned into a monster essay!! Makes up for me not being in touch for ages I suppose!

Love to you all xxxx

OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!!
I think I win the post of the year award!!!!

Forgot to say- hope you all had a GORGEOUS CHRISTMAS!!!!!!

OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!!
I think I win the post of the year award!!!!

Forgot to say- hope you all had a GORGEOUS CHRISTMAS!!!!!!

M2O Yay!!!!!! Great to see you back! We have missed you! I'm just off to bed - am wobbling as I think I have got proper chocolate overdose ie FAR too much sugar and am so dizzy even the telly is wobbling T'was very yummy though!

I would love to see all your pics - my email is [email protected] so get in touch, and then you can see all my pics on FB too! Hooray! Ooohh it's lovely to have you back on here!

Have to wobble myself up to bed now as otherwise I may fall over, but lots of love, and 'see' you soon! xxx

ps will write proper post tomorrow...

Have e-mailed you MBM xxx

Me too! I'm on Facebook so would like to be facebook buddies too. Email is [email protected].

I'll post more later too! I can't write much now as am having to make up a Thomas the TE shed up for DS1!

Have e-mailed you Becky x

I've just written on your walls! Cool!

Poppy and Nandos how do you fancy joining Facebook??

How is everyone today? I'm having a cleaning and tidying-away-the-toys day. Fun, fun, fun!

Me too Becky - yuck!

Nandos how's the sickness?

Poppy How are you?

Have got soooooo much to do so better go - just found an unopened box of yummy chocs under the tree this morning - what a bonus

Wil try and come back on later x

We have soo many chocolates this is what we have:
Two and a half big boxes of Terry's choco orange segments
One tin Quality Street
One box Thornton's Posh Chocos
One box nice chocolate shop chocos
One Terry's chocolate orange
One bag of random sweets
One bag of toffees
One box of liqueurs

I was at my sister's yesterday and we were playing a quiz and she said 'the winner gets a box of After Eights' and I said 'noooooo thanks!'

We are slowly munching our way through the above

We are about out of Christmas food, we now have:
A few leftover bits of turkey now looking a bit worse for wear.
A bit of leftover sausage stuffing ditto.
Lots of tonics (to go with gin I think)
Half a jar of pickled cabbage
Half a jar of pickled onions
Half a Christmas pudding
A complete Christmas cake - as yet uncut!
Half a birthday cake
Half a cheese cake

Now what can I come up with for lunch out of that lot?

Right, back to mopping the kitchen floor...

Hope you are all ok.

Hi ladies! Glad you all had a good xmas. We had a lovely one this year with much excitement. Ds's tooth came out on xmas eve (had been wobbling and bleeding in morning when brushing) and when I checked it at night time it was gone so we had to leave a note for the tooth fairy explaining it was either lost or swallowed. So she visited along with santa to great excitement of ds.

We are also swimming in chocks becky it will take us a long long time to eat out way throught them .

I have also been trying to rearrange toys and presents around the house - not easy!

Am v jealous of you all on facebook - have never even thought of joining it (showing my age here) but I thought I wa maybe a bit old as I hear my young girlguides talking about it!!!
Must look into it!

Am just about to make ds and I some lunch. DH is away hillwalking with my db leaving me to try and figure out how to work the wii AGHHHHHHH

You're never too old for Facebook Poppy!!! My mum's on it, and she's REALLY old . I won't tell her I said that... Is very easy to get set up, but it did take me a while to figure it out once I'd got myself a page. Is brill now though!
Woohoo re ds' tooth! Was that his first one? They do get so excited don't they, but I think the parents get just as excited! We had a little boy at school once, that couldn't quite figure it out, and when his first tooth came out he chucked it in the bin! I couldn't believe it! Was so sad for his mum - she was gutted!

Yum, yum, yum re all the chocs!!! Sounds like Choccy heaven to me Becky especially with the Terry's Chocolate Orange. I can always provide a comfortable home for it here if you're struggling

We have about the same list of ingredients in our fridge, and I made a leftover curry for me, DH and his dad today. Was worried it was going to be disgusting, but despite the sprouts, roasties, peas (and a bit of carrot and parsnip ) that were all left over from Christmas day it was rather tasty, even if I do say so myself! Am being ruthless now, and am chucking out all other leftovers. have got loads to make/bake this week so I need a bit of space! Think am turning into a mad cooking woman. By the time we all meet up I shall be the size of a house

M2O Your dh sounds truly fab, and lucky you getting a gorgeous watch! Has AF turned up yet? Re what you said, after what's happened it's bound to be difficult trying to be confident in your own body's ability to make/hold on to a baby, but remember you've done it before (and what a gorgeous girl she is) so you CAN do it again. I think we should try to have fun with sex and try (although near impossible) to forget why we're doing it. Me and dh have been taking cold showers for the last few days - I forgot to buy any boring condoms last week, and didn't have the nerve to ask for any in the pharmacy when I went on Friday. Am feeling rather randy . (Who else could I admit that to hey?) Makes me think that when we do hopefully get the all clear we shall just be going at it like bunnies! Hooray! God I hate condoms...

Nandos How are you feeling? Am presuming that the sickness is pretty bad - I wasn't able to post much when I had it over the summer, and could hardly sit up long enough to read what you'd all written. Poor you... Am sending you a big, but gentle hug x

Right, am off to play with ds now. He's progressing with his talking - now says 'dar' for bye, and can also say 'oh loo' (oh look) and 'ah fwour' (oh wow). Is soooooo cute!

Love to all!

MBM here are some Terry's chocolate orange segments...CATCH! Your curry sounds yummy to me! We had turkey curry the other night and it was yummy. We've also been throwing away the leftovers today: I think today is 'eat or die' day for them.

M2O I hope you had a good time watching John Barrowman. I dreamt about him last night and I think it is all your fault!!!! We were ice-skating together. He was very swish and handsome in my dream.

Hope you are feeling ok Nandos and coping with Christmas ok. How many weeks are you now?

It is lovely when the little people start talking...I miss those days. I remember when DS2 used to ask for 'gratgrat' everyday (breakfast) and used to point to our cat and go 'caaaaa! caaaaa!'

This afternoon the DSs were in the back of the car and DS1 says to DS2 'I like my hat, it was from Father Christmas, it still has the label on it though, he bought it from 'G, A, P', I wonder what G, A, P, is?'. Cute.

Poppy you just have to check out Facebook. I have all sorts of 'friends' there: my sister, my sister's best friend, my friend's mum who is in her 60s, random old school friends and even my niece's cousin whom I've never met! And now M20 and MBM too! It's just fun to see what people are up to and see their photos too.

Better go, take care all!

Back to work today!! BOOOOOO!!! Thought I was going to be having a week off next week because my mum was having an operation tomorrow (for a bladder prolapse) and I applied for carers leave from work and bugger me......they have gone and cancelled the bloody operation cos of a bed shortage!! So I'm not having a week off next week now. Was really looking forward to it because Mum was going to stay at ours and was going to look after her and everything. She hasn't even been given a new date for the operation which is really pants.

AND my gorgeous lovely sexy husband is going away this Sunday for TWO whole weeks with work. Am mightily cheesed off cos he is away for when I lay my egg! Bollocks! Will really miss him- am really shit when he isnt here and I'm really scared of sleeping on my own (I sound like a right baby!). I am a right grumpy cow too. But my mum has said tonight that she will stay over at night time so that I am not alone and she will help out with Olivia . Its really crappy getting in from work late and doing dinner, washing and getting Liv to bed then getting up at 6 to get the bus to work in the dark (wish I'd passed my test by now!)- I know a lot of women do it day in day out with no help (hell- I did it for a year with a baby after I left Livs dad PLUS breastfeeding!) but since I met GH (gorgeous husband) I've turned into a real princess and cant do much without help To be honest it will probably do us good- absence does make the heart grow fonder and since the MC we have become extremely reliant on eachother emotionally so I think we do need the break from eachother. And he definitely has drawn the short straw- hes going to Chicago where it is MINUS 20!! HA HA!!

And just to tease me- my fucking period was 4 days late! I started to take agnus castus and added 3 days onto my LP as well as ovulating late and I didnt spot in the build up to the blob- I just came on! I never do that- I normally have 4 days of 'marmite wipes' before my period but I didnt get this at all! Am VERY impressed so will stick with it. YAY ME! Didnt stop me doing about 5 tests though!

I'm trying very very hard to be positive about TTC- if you hear me saying 'it will never happen' or I start wallowing in self pity- please tell me off, I need it. I was whinging to DH the other day that it was dead on 2 years since I had my coil out. To make me feel better he sat and worked out how many months we actually have tried for- so taking out summer 2007 cos didnt want to be mega pregnant for wedding in December 2007 and 5 months on the pill and a couple of months when he has been away and the MC- we have only actually tried for 12 months and the average is 18 months. And also coupled with his OK (but a little lazy if you ask me!) sperm test and my possible endo, it seems that we may have done ok to manage 1 pregnancy! He made me feel loads better. My mantra has got to be IT WILL HAPPEN!!!!

Anyway- enough about me! (god I do go on!)

poppy you definitely need to join Facebook! you can never be too old to join- please join! please! please be our friend on there! please?

nandos where are you? hope you are ok

MBM and becky am bit jealous of you pair sharing chocolates but can I please bagsy the leftover sausage stuffing? Sounds yummy!!

And talking of Babys talking- I met simon when Olivia was 1 and she used to call him 'salmon'! I was watching a video we had made of her at nursery the other day and it was so sweet- she was only 2 and she was asking the nursery nurse for 'salmon' to come and 'det' her in the 'tar'. The nursery nurse couldnt understand her but when I heard it I knew what she was saying and it made me cry to think how much she loved simon already- bless her!!

Love to all!!

xxxx

hello everyone
missed you all (big big hugs)
sorry just managed to post after a long time.. am feeling better at the moment thx for asking..
right..now where did i stop? re the facebook, my dh just joined a couple of weeks ago n hes looking at it nonstop and adding plenty of friends. as for me, am thinking abt it already have friendster and so far not many friends there cos' most dont have friendster and secondly i dont have any pictures and profile lol. i just think its for safety reason? call me old fashion or freak lol but im so scared of uploading pics ..although dh's profile have loads of pic of me
oh btw becky pass some of the chocs to me too cos' i think im suffering from low bp or something..have fainting spells at times..
re your qn, i guess im abt 9+ weeks at the moment..i dont know exactly how many wks. my mom told me just to count in months from the last date of menses and my lmp is 24th oct so its just over 2mths..