been ttc#1 forever (and a bit longer) ....

[nomoremagnolia]

Thought it was time for a new thread - we're almost out of room on the original one

Hi all...

Ready! - OHHHH a spa.... sounds like heaven... but get off the bloody computer! But lovely to hear from you!

KD - Fab news on your scan yesterday... do you have a little name yet?

Viksam - sorry to hear about AF. Hubbies are bloody annoying sometimes, men just don't get it! My DH has been a royal pain sometimes, but we have both decided to commit to the IVF, but it took some debating. Which was really annoying as he know sod all about it and I researched everything, I just wish they would look into things more instead of seeing it as a dent to their male pride! Hence I think why they say women are from venus and men are from Mars... lol

Gilly - I think the clomid increases the amount of follicles viable for producing an egg and then the HCG exhilarates these and releases any follicles that can produce an egg, so they can be then fertilized to make an embryo... I hope that makes sense

Got to go... busy busy busy

Hello to everyone else... by the way its my birthday tomorrow... I'm bloody 33! GRRRRR

Hi Everyone, I posted on this thread a while ago but have just been lurking and not posting for the last few months. Just to give you all an idea of our situation, we have been TTC for 2 years, had lap (private) in November which diagnosed endo and cysts which they removed. They put me on Clomid 100mg for 6 months and that has just come to an end. I went to see my GP and I was surprised to get a referal to a fertility specialist so quickly (25th June), my question is that they have already diagnosed me and given me Clomid so do you think that this appointment could be to discuss IUI/IVF? Any advise would be great.

Rah - Happy Birthday!
KD - Great news on your scan
Ready - Hope you are enjoying your holiday
All - Hello!

Hi Bonnie! Great to hear from you. I am very interested to hear about your situation. I am not quite at the same stage as you, but getting there. We have been TTC for 18 months, and have done blood tests and sperm tests which have all come back as 'normal'. GP has now referred me to a fertility consultant- have the appointment on 25 June- same day as you! So we can be appointment buddies! I am wondering whether they will recommend me for a lap and dye. I think that is what I need, as i would like to know if I have endo / cysts. What happened with you? How long into TTC did you have your lap? (if you don't mind sharing )

kd73, how are things? wanted to ask actually, regarding laparoscopy, how big a deal is it? Am getting married in August, and am wondering if I should wait until after the wedding, or if it's not that big a deal, if I should just get on with it and get it done (that's assuming the consultant recommends it, and assuming there is not a long waiting list for laparoscopies on the NHS??)

Morning,

Things are good thanks evergrounded, feeling human although I heard that 3 people who I work with made "discreet" enquiries asking if I was prg! But then 2 other people, came upto me put their hands on my (rather large) stomach and congratulated me on the bump!!!! I was somewhat stunned and stumbled out with a thanks!!! I had hoped to keep it quiet for another couple of weeks until I was at least in the 2nd trimester. Oh well....

On the Laparoscopy, I was seen by the fertility clinic from recollection early Dec 06 having been ttc since Oct 04 and went onto have Lap and dye at the end of March 07. I was disappointed to wait 3months but was advised that this was not a long waiting list. The op itself wasn't a big deal, however in my case there was a complication which resulted in the keyhole surgery being abandoned returning to traditional cutting open (which is a risk). However the wound healed well, I was only in hospital 24 hours and I was off work a week recouperating. My only regret is not seeing the fertility specialists / GP earlier. Its also worth noting that the Laparoscopy identified no reason for us not getting prg & we would told to try clomid, if that was unsuccessful we would be offered 3 cycles of IUI plus 1 cycle of IVF. However we decided to do nothing for 3 months (giving my body the best chance to heal after the op) and conceived within this period.

Bonnie and Evergrounded - sorry for waffling but hope the above helps!

Hi Guys,
Just thought i would tell u my experiences.
I have been TTC for four years. Within that time i moved counties/houses and jobs so put FTC down to the stress of the upheval. After settling down for a while in my new home, about 18months ago, i went to the docs for the firts time. Since then as you all know we did the enevitable blood/sperm tests, mostly normal apart from Underactive tryroid being discovered and high FSH. I was put onto thyroxin and the dosage is still being altered, it takes a while to get it right. I had a L&D back in January of this year. Mine was done through keyhole, they use a phrase, filling and spilling when refering to ur tubes. My left side didnt fill or spill, but my right side was fine. So there may be a blockage on my left side but aparrently, if you ovulate from ur left overy it can be fanned over to ur right side.....thats what i was told at the hospital.
The L&D isnt too bad, i would highly recoment three days of rest afterwards. They blow you up with gas to seperate all ur organs to make it easier for them and its the gas that hangs aroung in ur system. Its true when they say it hurts in the tips of ur shoulders, it does, but if u dont move around much its fine. The wound is small and nothing at all to worry about i have the most miniscule scar in my belly button, wierd.
I hope this has helped, its just my experience, everyone seems to have very different experiences of the NHS. I did have to wait about three months and it was cancelled twice, which was anoying but if there are lots of sick people they cant really help it i suppose.
I have just started my 4th course of clomid at 100mg, nothing yet but im feeling more positive about this month!!

Rah kinda glad to here im not on my own with the dreaded man thing. How u feeling this morning?? Hope u had a fab day yesterday!!Happy Birthday!!

KD Glad ur ok, must have felt wierd that people knew, you must be glowing!

Bonnie and evergrounded Hope it helps. June 25th must be a significant day, i have my appraisal at work on that day!

Ready Are u back yet? did you have a fab time?

Hi to everyone else
xxx

gilly and KD I meant to say, thanks for telling me about ur DH's. It has made me feel better. Its clearly a man thing and not coz he is a git! which is good!

Thanks guys for my birthday wishes and song by Gilly! LOL>>> Had a good birthday and met up with lots of friends and consumed pimms all weekend...
(might of drank a few other things too
), so yesterday I was feeling a bit ropey, but recovering well today.. LOL

Hope everyone is well and having a good start to the week.. I will catch you all later! Xx

Also does anyone know when Ready gets home?

Hello. I am back. A little more bronze than when I left pasty faced. Had a WONDERFUL time and didn?t want to come home?

I was only popping on to check on you all while dh was checking his emails? I was not denying myself any relaxation.

Rah, sorry I wasn?t here to wish you all the best on your birthday, I hope you had a fabulous time!

Gilly, fingers crossed for you for everything

Oh Viksam, that was so sad to read that about your dh worrying that you would go off and find someone without a problem ? I can empathise with that sentiment, as I have said to dh many times before the hsg that if it was my problem would he hate me. It?s terrible to feel that way. Have you convinced him that the sample is the right thing to do now though ? it is better to know what?s going on ? have all the information! Hang in there.

Kd, so pleased to hear that the scan showed well

Bonnie, hope you are ok? I would say that the next appt probably is to discuss what next, and how you are doing with the clomid. How do you feel? And what do you want to get out of the next appointment? Make sure you go armed with a list of questions, so that you don?t forget anything and kick yourself when you remember later that day!

Evergrounded, August wedding huh!! How exciting. How are the plans going for that?

Everyone else? where and how are you all??

Ready

Well of course... how could I possibly forget you nomore... I am terribly sorry - how very rude of me

I am so excited for you Nomore... everything crossed....

Hi girls

Sorry I haven't been around - been trying not to think about it all, TBH. Glad to hear so many of you are at exciting stages of 'assisted conception'. Surely there'll be at least one BFP (though don't start fighting over it...)

As for me, let's see. Not great...

1 Couldn't go to fertility appointment at local hospital, and wasn't allowed to move it. I have to go back to the GP, get referred again, and make a new appointment. Stuff that... So...

2 Contacted private clinic. They can't see me until mid-July. But I Want It NOW!

3 Belly all swollen and bloated, making me think - in my truly mad moments - that I am in fact pregnant already, and my last period was one of those trick ones. FFS.

4 At least I've managed to do jiggy at the right time this month. Not that it means it will work. Hasn't done for the past year, after all...

5 My best friend, a lesbian, is going to try and get up the duff with donor sperm. It shows what a bitch this process is turning me into, as I don't think I'll be able to bear it if it succeeds.

6 Completed our adoption prep course, and now have to jump through all the multiple hoops of application. As Coggy says, it's a long, winding, and uphill road.

BUT I'm going on hols to Cornwall at the weekend. Might just stay down there, open B&B, and 'downsize'. MMmmmmmmmm

herbaceous life sucks huh!

Had NT scan today, hate the hospital right now. It revealed an elevated risk of downs syndrome . For my age it should be 1:351 but the adjusted risk is 1:120 . Choices are :-

Do nothing and hope everything works out ok
or
Have further tests which put me at greater risk of miscarriage

Whilst I know the risk is elevated by less than 1% and the overall risk is less than 1%, why is the risk portrayed as an elevated risk FFS. After all if you had the numbers which gave a 99% chance of winning the lottery wouldn't you be delighted. So why the hell do I feel like someone is tormenting me....

Sorry for the me post........

Herby, big hugs, enjoy your trip away and try not to think about ttc. I know it is easier said than done!
What did the adoption people say about assisted conception? I read somewhere that you have to have stopped treatment 6 months before the adoption process... is that really true?

Kd, Oh babe, I am so sorry to hear that. Can the test be repeated to see if the same result comes up?
A friend of mine was told that she had an elevated risk of Down's syndrome during her pregnancy, much more than yours, they pretty much told her the baby would be Down's and suggested termination. She refused and decided that she would deal with whatever came her way. Her baby was born totally healthy.
What do you think you will do with regards to further tests?
Biggest of hugs for you sweetheart.

(((((herby KD)))))
I totally agree life sucks - AF arrived this morning which along with the BFN (also this morning - to remove any 'wishful thinking' that it wasn't really AF) spells GAME OVER for me

I'm so sorry no more.

Thanks Ready, it appears from speaking with a couple of friends and family members that this is commonly happening but it doesn't stop you worrying .

Oh NMM - I'm so sorry. You must be gutted. Have an enormous (((((((((((((((hug)))))))))))) and a big kiss.

(((Nomore))), sending you the biggest, warmest cuddles, I am so gutted for you and your dh - and I wish there was something I could do or say that would change this. Please look after each other at this tough time.

Kd, oh, totally, I didn't think I'd be able to stop you from worrying. But really just to say that the medical team can be, and often are, wrong. What will you do next?

Hi all,

(((Nomore)))... Go gutted for you... sending you massive hugs. I agree life truly sucks!

KD - I decided not to have the amnio test, but I think its very much a personal choice. My friend who was carrying at the same time as me came back high risk, had all the tests, got completely stressed out and very upset, but lucky her tests came back OK. To be honest I just had the abnormalities scan at 20 weeks, and that will pick up anything of great concern. For me the risk of losing my baby was greater than if it had downs. Downs can lead to other serious health issues, such as heart defects, but again this should be scanned for at 20 week. I hope I've been of some help, but I know very upsetting to have all the information and having to make a choice.

herbaceous- opening a B&B sounds like a nice idea... hope you have a nice time in Cornwall.

Ready... I hope your head is out the clouds by now from your nice relaxing holiday

Catch you all in a bit XX

Sorry nomore

kd - 99% still sounds really positive although it must be really hard not to worry. Do you know what you're going to do about further tests?

I'm on CD1 here too, although oddly slightly relieved this time round because at least it means an end to the last week of stressing out. I think I've decided not to go to the doctors straight away (you might remember I posted recently about just getting to the 12-months-of-TTC milestone). We're not really ready to get our heads round any kind of treatment at the moment so I don't really see the point of doing all the tests right now. So I'm thinking of trying for another 6 months at least before going down that path, but I need to negotiate it with DH because I think he's quite keen to at least find out if there's anything wrong. Did everyone else go as soon as they got to 12 months or did anyone wait a bit longer?

Sorry I haven't replied to everyone on the thread - hope that's ok in mumsnet etiquette, but sometimes it's hard to know what to say. Hope you're all doing ok anyway.

cd1 for me too! woke up at 4am with stomach cramps and the rest is history! I am in a shit mood, as had no sleep and have loads to do! GRRRRR

Hope everyone else is OK....

nomore (((SENDING SOME ANGRY LOVE TODAY))) - Thinking of you.