2ww and the bit in between. BFP's we're waiting!

[Bucky2008]

Maybe a nice shiny new thread will get us all enthusiastic again. I am on my rubbish diet so I only have nuts and beans to put out on the table. Oh and gin of course ;o) Anyone got any cakes to tempt me with?

Ding ding....let's...go

Do you think I have gone a bit mad

Morning,

How are you doing this morning Ei? Have you managed to get an emergency appt?

Wow, Bucky, thats quite a proactive consultant you've got yourself there! Altho very scary, at least this way there's no hanging around - I've read some really sad stories of people being kept waiting for months as a decision is made. Hope the pre-op goes ok today.

How is everyone else today?

Am working from home today....somebody stop me from mindlessly searching the conception boards....

hi ladies
i couldnt get through to the docs this morning and when i did all the appointment were gone!! its alsways the same story with that surgery so i wasnt surprised!
bucky hope your pro op appointment goes well. FWIW my mums best friend had to have a laparoscopy done when she was TTC as she had very painful periods. they did it and flushed her through and voila! she was preggers within 6 weeks. she went on to have another child within a year of the first by accident!! after trying for 2 years for the first one!! i hope this is the case for you and you will be like the pied piper with your kiddies
PnM have a nice day working from home
hope everyone else is doing ok
scary know any good jokes?? i am feeling a little brighter today as i KNOW it will happen for me and i am not alone in this bloody battle!!
love yas lots like jelly tots for bein such a lovely bunch of angels
xx ei xx

Oh Ei, thats completely rubbish about your Dr's - do you still have your appt for Tues booked? Pleased to hear you're feeling a little brighter - although feel free to keep sobbing/tantruming here as the mood takes you. YOu're going through a hugely emotional (not to mention hormonal) thing at the moment.

Managed to convince myself I've been working all day at home today - even though most of it has been spent looking up random sites about fertility. Thought I'd gone through all of this in my early ttc days but with an appt looming at the Dr's I suddenly feel the need to arm myself with information again. May even create a lovely spreadsheet of ttc/cycle data for the Dr....

For Ei

What's the difference between dancing and pea soup?

You can learn to dance.

BOOM BOOM!!

Ei, you are allowed to feel down, as PicknMix says your hormones must be all over the place. Do you think it was a CP (is there no hope it wasn't just a bleed)? Just let all the stress out and rant as much as you need, we're here to listen.

CD1 for me of a lovely new cycle where I at last get another chance to ttc. So glad that this happened today as I found out yet another friend is pregnant. It's lovely, I am happy for her and I reckon she probably tried for a fair while but god I am so jealous. I even had a little cry which is foolish, because at least I have my daughter (who is worth 10 other children!). I never used to be a jealous person and don't like the nasty envious obsessive type that ttc makes me. Oh well...

Love to the rest of you.

And I love the idea of a spreadsheet PicknMix! I must be spending too much time with actuaries! Will you do some graphs too?

I am almost ashamed to admit it SH but I have now done a lovely spreadsheet, complete with annotated graph. And surprisingly enough I had no idea my cycles are actually a lot more regular than I thought (bizarrely, I went for about 4 months starting each time on either the 16th or 17th of each month). Sure does make for a pretty pattern with all the random 26 day and 54 day cycles though .

Not so sure the Dr will be quite as interested as me though..... I think I really need to get out more - working from home is not good for me!!!

So pleased you're back to CD1....must feel like its been a long time coming, esp with various friends and neighbours announcing their pregnancies. I am also guilty of the nasty envious obsessive feelings (which, I hasten to add, I think are perfectly normal ).

Evening lovely ladies

Ei, am glad to hear you sounding more positive but remember there are plenty of shoulders around here for any rants etc. And terrible about your dr's - most frustrating to not be able to get the app when you need it most.

Scary, at joke. Sorry to hear you're back to CD1, but you're totally normal to have happy/jealous conflict at your friend's news. It's so so hard to maintain the happy surface all the time, so much better to let it out (both a little cry and on here).

ooh PnM I think that spreadsheet idea is excellent! Such a great plan to have the info ready for the dr. And while looking up fertility sites is not strictly "work" it is vitally important to your sanity!

and waves to MOB, MtW, Abby, Bucky, Digitalgirl and everyone else.

Bon weekend to one and all. We're off to my sister's in Dublin, and really looking forward to it!

PnM Hurray for the spreadsheet! I was posting at same timea s you. I hope the dr appreciates how much easier you've made it for them

Scary meant to say glad, not sorry. My attn to detail is poor, esp on a friday night! Roll on this ttc cycle!

EI Am so, so sorry to hear your news. That's horrible. Shame you couldn't get drs appt today - hopefully when you go on tuesday you will be referred asap. And you are right - IT WILL HAPPEN. Hold on tight, you will get there. We are all with you. And... following on from Scary:

what's the difference between a bison and a buffalo?
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You can't wash your hands in a buffalo!!! (my favourite joke - how sad am i?)

PnM pleased to hear you have changed the appt, after we all nagged you expressed our concerns. Am v impressed with the idea of a spreadsheet!! You must know all the necessary info about our cycles to do one for the rest of us as well!!

Bucky Wow! things are moving quick!! Sounds like they can have a good look around and check everything out in one fell swoop. That's good news, if a bit scary for you.

scary for once i'm going to say i'm pleased to hear you are on cd1, because that means you can now get back to ttc. Wishing you all the luck in the world after the rotten time you've had. It wasn't at all foolish to have a cry today. I know i've found myself feeling like that in similar circumstances, as i'm sure we all have. It is a reflection of how much you want a baby.

Hello also to caitni mtw abby and the rest of the gang.

Boring CD8 for me today - another week or so and i should be in "the zone". Furry babies are doing really well. It's amazing how their personalities are so apparent already. One is calm and chilled, the other is noisy and manic. (and dare i say it, i think the noisy one is female... )

caitni have a lovely time in dublin!

Have a fab time in Dublin Caitni - I've only been there once but loved it!!

Not so sure the tinterweb researching helped my sanity any today . I have now diagnosed myself with all sorts of problems and complaints!!

I am also toying with the idea of doing another hpt as the spotting/bleeding has now stopped - never really started properly and I have no other symptoms to suggest it was af. Keep clinging on to the fact that my mum was 12 weeks gone before she realised she was pg with my sister as she continued to have periods.....

Gah....

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Morning ladies

I love that joke MOB, as you can tell from mine, those sorts of jokes are my favourites.

Yay for the spreadsheet Picknmix. I remember spending hours playing with fertilityfriend, convinced that if I tweaked the data a bit (presentationally) it would either say "you're pregnant" or "you will be next cycle"!! Lost the plot, me? no. (well maybe)

Have a good time in Dublin Caitni.

Yesterday was only spotting, today is CD1 I think and it has all started properly. I felt pretty hormonal and crap yesterday but feel a bit more "even" today and am seeing my acupuncture lady later so hopefully that will make it all better. I have awful period pains though and think I may take an extra nurofen or two!

Waves at Shrek.

Hello to the rest of you.
Have a good weekend everyone.

Morning everyone

Morning SH - period pains are awful, I really feel for you - deffo time to pop a few nurofen and kick back at the accupunturist.

Hi to Shrek, long time no 'see'! Are you planning on going somewhere fabulous next year?!

MOB - glad to hear the furry babies are doing well , guinea pigs are amazing how they're born fully 'clothed' so to speak!! I just tried to 'share' my ff chart with you so you could have a look but I can't work out how to do it....but thank you for offering!!

Am off to do highly exciting things today (said with tongue firmly in cheek)....such as food shopping and the like....how glam. Finally appear to have stopped spotting today which is good. Bizarre how long it lasted though.

How is everyone else!?! How are our pg ladies doing??

PnM you should test to be sure! All sounds v. suspicious.

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PnM if you want to post your chart, go to your chart, then "sharing" on the left hand menu, then "home page set up". On the next page it gives a URL with numbers and letters at the end - this is a link to your chart.

You can choose some of the info that is included, e.g. you can remove the shagging info!

HTH

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Thanks SH (how is it I couldn't work that out for myself?! Such a dunce!). I'll give it a go but feel free not to comment on it, not really sure what any of you can tell me apart from - it doesn't actually look like you've ov'ed yet, your temps are pretty low (Hypothyroidism? - see told you I've done too much research ) and you need to be more regular with taking your temps at the same time!!! FF reckoned I ov'ed on CD13 but then took my lines away when I spotted for more than 4 days......

PnM's Chart

Shrek what a fabulous plan you have a head of you!!! My DH would love to move down under - but to NZ. I already have family in Oz and went last year - is a truely lovely place! Have you been before??

Don't think I didn't notice your sneaky post Bucky almost akin to subliminal messaging!!! Will test tomorrow if temp goes up. If it goes down then I shall admit defeat! How are you doing?

PnM at the subliminal messaging . I am lurking around . Your chart looks a bit erratic (no offence. Um can you insult a person's chart? ) Are you taking your temp the minute you open your eyes?

I am fine, went for my pre-op and assured them that I am not obese or smoking 60 a day so as long as I don't have MRSA (they swab for it now) I am booked in to be cut open. Ah the trials and tribulations of ttc. Actually I am the same weight and height as I was at 18 they had my records. Exactly the same weight to the pound....how weird is that...I am 36 now!

No offence taken Bucky - my chart is erratic but I am actually quite religious about taking it before I do anything else, I am even getting fairly good at taking it whilst still half asleep (woke up one morning with the thermometer still in my mouth ). I think I should just draw a line under this cycle - have no idea what CD I am now though. May be thats a good thing.....

How can you be the same weight as you were when you were 18?! How is that a)possible and b)fair?!! I have managed to gain () 2 stone since I got married 4 years ago. Actually, thats really quite bad isn't it? I am still a fairly healthy size 12 btw, was just a little underweight at my wedding!!!

How long does it take them to work out if you have MRSA then? Hope they don't keep you waiting for aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaages.

How is everybody else today??

Oh, I also got a BFN this morning - had a lovely evaporation line about 30mins after though which got my heart jumping for a millisecond, but no, def just an evap line.

hello hello everyone!! i've now caught up with all your various antics.

i am "returned", as they say in books, from my travels . We were in Spain and Cornwall and now I'm feeling deliciously rested after all the sunshine and I'm also feeling very, very FAT . Clotted cream teas, beers every night in lovely little pubs, chips sitting on the harbour wall and we even treated ourselves to a slap up fish-feast at Rick Steins, which was amazing, but depleated one sort of pounds and piled on the other sort of pounds . Everyone will assume I am preggers when they see the size of me . i have to diet.

ei - thinking of you. I was so so when i read that you thought it was a CP after I jumped for joy for you at the start of reading the thread for your BFP. Did you get the doctor's appointment sorted out yet? Everything crossed for you and please stay with us and keep us up to date on the psychic predictions

hello to Caitni. It's great to have some new joiners on the thread. i am a very old timer, these days.

PnM - I am well impressed at the spreadsheet cycle monitoring. You go girl!

Bucky - i am that you are going under the knife. Did they say why they thought it was necessary medically? i don't envy you but as the others on the thread said, maybe it will mean everything gets flushed clean. You lucky thing being the same weight as you were at 18. i am too, but that's not good as i was a wee fatty in my teens and I was a stone+ lighter for the last 12 years, so i don't want to be the same weight as i was at 18 . I am hoping, like you, that after my HSG at CD12, things may have happened. i am now at CD25 and have enormous bosoms - truly, I was at a wedding and my dress looked terrible as I spilled out of my bra - but that again it's probably all the Cornish clotted cream and wine, so i don't really hold out any more hope that usual.

Scary - I love Annecy - gorgeous place. i used to spend a lot of summers there as my uncle was a sound and lighting engineer and he would do the Annect fireworks sound and light show every summer and we'd all go along and hang out there.

Abbey - urgh, i don't envy you marking all those GCSE papers. Good luck with ploughing through them. Remember that this time next year, you will have your hands full with a new baby instead!

I am feeling a bit down like you ladies about TTC, reading back through the thread. I am almost getting to the stage when my friends will be announcing the imminent arrival of DC#2 when we both started TTC#1 at the same time and i am still a hopeless case. DH also let his hair down (i.e. started boozing again) on holiday. A couple was ok with me, but he went at it to a greater extent than I was happy with. One night he mt his friends and got back to the hotel at 7.15am (!! yes, really! ) after (according to his mates) doing vodka redbulls and flaming zambuccas all night, so there was some..erm...shall we say tension at one stage.

will check in again tomorrow. i am NOT lookingforward to going back to work!

Welcome back GG sounds like you had a great time . I wasn't really any other option re the op, it was a case of 'the last thing we can do to check things is a Laparoscopy because there is probably nothing wrong with you'....so I could hardly refuse! They said they wouldn't see me again until after I have had the operation so no more tests.

PnM sorry about the BFN when are we going to get BFPs it is taking way too long! .

Hope everyone is having a good weekend.

Evening all,

Just back and enjoyed catching up on everyone. Hope you all had great weekends! Dublin was fantastic, had a great time taking my nephew (aged 5 and very good fun to be around) to the park yesterday afternoon, and seeing all the babies and children actually made me feel very hopeful/excited about ttc.

GryffinGirl, sounds like you had a great holiday. I've only been in Cornwall once and also enjoyed Rick Stein's! But sorry to hear you're feeling down about ttc - it's hard when it seems like everyone else is pregnant and you're not. In my team of four my two male colleagues announced on Thursday their wives are pregnant, due December. I'm so genuinely happy for them, but my god, I wish pregnancy was catching like all the colds and bugs that get passed around the office! But it WILL happen for us all and we'll all be fantastic parents!

PnM thanks for sharing your chart - browsing charts on FF is like a hobby to me now so it's great to see one from someone I "know". at waking up with a thermometer in your mouth! It's interesting the way temps can vary - this month is the first time in four months of charting that my temps (so far) look mostly stable and I'm also pretty strict about taking them at the same time each morning...sorry about the BFN though.

Bucky, lucky you with your svelte teen figure!! I lost a couple of stone a few years ago (go the GI diet!) and have mostly kept it off, though I did pile on a few pounds after getting married last year as the best thing about being married was not having to watch my weight to fit into the dress lol.

Shreksmissus, wow Down Under - that is super exciting! It's great to have things to look forward to. We're moving to Brighton in a month, and am excited (and more than a little scared!) to be moving to a new place. Even looking forward to the commute to London (thinking of all the books i can read!).

SH, I hope the period pains eased and the accupunturist went well. I'm thinking of finding an accupuncturist soon, so I'd be interested to hear your experience with it?

MOB, another at the joke - I'm hopeless at remembering jokes but am going to try to remember that one!

Ei, hope you're doing OK

Hello to MTW and Abbeymeg and DigitalGirl and everyone else.

Currently CD9 for me and I'm about to ovulate, though no peak reading on my monitor yet but so much EWCM. I'm not sure whether I should be worried about ovulating between CD9 and CD11 (generally have 23/24 day cycles) as am kind of afraid to google it in case I find out that having such a short follicular phase is terrible! But it means I shall be truly in the TWW soon, so expect lots of symptom spotting from me soon (I hope this month they're actually symptoms this time lol)

Hello everyone,

Sorry for being such a stranger - I've had lots to catch up on.

ei I was so excited and happy when I read your news, I'm so sorry . You are such a chirpy lovely lady always thinking of others, especially in your psychic dreams. Take care

GG Ouch, that procedure sounded horrible, although it is good to hear those tubes are pristine. Hope your return to work isn't too awful.

MOB Yeah for ickle furry babies! They sound gorgeous. Thanks for thinking of me . Fingers crossed you get a surprise BFP now you have set the ball rolling for tests.

P&M What a weird cycle you have had! Good luck with the appointment, I'm sure they'll take you seriously when they see the spreadsheets and graphs.

bucky I completely understand your nervousness about the procedure but you will be fine. I've read a few stories on MN about people conceiving after having one.

Sorry for not saying hello to everyone. Waves to mibbes, abby, hatty, shreksmissus, sparkly, scary, Caitni and everyone else.

I'm still suffering with hyperemesis. I did have some more effective anti-sickness tablets but it appears to be wearing off and I'm starting to be sick again. However, I was 12 weeks last Friday and jollycub looks to be fit and healthy on the scan! Hopefully the sickness should be coming to an end soon .