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*****PCOS - Anybody in the same boat?******

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fruitloop79 · 04/02/2008 14:58

I don't know if there are any threads already started but I've just officially found out I've got PCOS this morning - I've always known deep down. Please tell me it's not all bad I'm feeling very sorry for myself.
We've been TTC for 6 months - only 3 cycles. I supposedly ovulated on CD36 (now CD43) this cycle. Gynae reckons not preg cos uterus lining would've thickened. (Had a scan this morning)

Any hints/tips on treatment/TTC?
How to deal with symptoms?

How did Posh spice and Jools Oliver manage to fall preg?

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Hi - this thread is a little out of date. We've got some more information on PCOS here. MNHQ

OP posts:
cam75 · 04/09/2008 14:39

Attila,
Ask questions please.
that is what my consultant has said to me?? my partner is ok has had it tested may times since we have been trying and b4 i started the clomid tOO. I think it is there way of trying to eveything without taking a closer look at things that can be cost effective.
I heard of clomid before i even got onto the ivf waiting list, but the consultant at kings did not want to give me the clomid??

All else fails i will go to my gp who will sort me out, she is the best really am lucky to have her(she is the bbc 1 dr). Anything problem i have i go to her, the last gp i had was not really that helpful.

Moonlit · 04/09/2008 15:32

Hi Cam75,

I understand your frustration. We have been TTC for a sibling for my DD since 2006. My Gp kept on sending me back and saying 'it will happen'. Then I got more pushy and said I need help, so she put me on Metformin, saying it could be my weight. The weight was coming off slowly but not significantly enough to make a difference, so I went back and demanded more tests and my DH's sperm to be checked. My blood works were all normal, however my DH's were not. I am totally pissed off, because why the hell did it take 2 years for his tests (which I asked for!!!). Anyway, with the farting around with my referral to the fertility unit, I decided to take matters into my own hands in July and have lost 7kg so far. I did strict Atkins for two weeks and then just kept my carbohydrates and milk consumption to a very low amount, with 4 miles on a treadmill daily and I was taking; multivitamins and 1500 of Metformin daily. DungunGirl is my inspiration.

After all of this my Cycles has completely regulated and I feel great! So hopefully, my chances of getting pregnant have improved. Although my DH's results are a bit worrying.

So the moral of the story is, don't loose heart!

Moonlit xxx

AttilaTheMeerkat · 04/09/2008 15:56

Hi Cam

Am glad you did not mind me asking questions.

If there are no male factor problems at all then I have no idea why IVF is being suggested as an option if PCOS is indeed the only issue. You are certainly correct in that there are other treatments that may actually be more successful.

Why exactly did the cons at Kings not want you to take clomid? (I can understand this scenario as my cons did not want me to take this drug either. In my case I was not suitable to take it, he told me "it would not help me").

I would have a word with your GP again if this person have been helpful before.

Do keep us posted.

cam75 · 04/09/2008 16:06

Mwah xxx mmonlit,

thank you so much for that. I too find that the metformin is slow working as the dr's keep going on about my weight. Before i was going to the gym 3 times a week and i lost weight but then it came to a stand still and no more weight lose. I have been to see a dietican and she was honest with me (at least someone has been) she told me that she does not see me skinny as i am big boned, i have lost weight and i can wear size 12 tops comfortable it's my thighs and bum but hey we can't have it all...
I will keep my head up thank you guys hugs MWAh xxxxxxx

SHADDY · 05/09/2008 11:33

IM PREGNANT FINALLY SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY

cam75 · 05/09/2008 13:09

let be be the 1st to congratulate you

Moonlit · 05/09/2008 14:43

Hi Shaddy - Congratulations, sorry for being rude and nosy but have you posted on this thread before? Can you tell us a little about your stats e.g how long have you had PCOS?, how long to conceive? Is this your first? etc.

Cam75 - you are most welcome my darling. What I have found with taking metformin and eating less carbohydrates, that I fall into plateaus quite often. This is where it is easy to give up, but of course you shouldn't! Then after a two week plateau 5lbs comes off just like that. Which is very satisfying . It's a struggle but you have to do, what you have to do!

xxx

cam75 · 05/09/2008 15:12

moonlit where do you live? if it is the us which i believe but not sure. Is there alot of info about pcos?

Moonlit · 05/09/2008 16:29

Hi Cam75 - I live in the UK, I was in the US for 2.5 months looking after my Brother in laws kids (long story). But yes you are right they do have loads of information in the US, because everyone I met either had PCOS or was related to someone with it.

DungunGirl · 08/09/2008 09:25

hey Moonlit

Nice to see you back on the thread! That is soooo irritating to find that DPs results...men!

Well done on the weight loss! Keep going!

cam75
How are you doing? Has AF showed up yet? Still got my fingers crossed for you.

cam75 · 08/09/2008 10:05

Dungungirl,

i am waiting!!!! my boobs are so sore and i am cramping really badly??? but my tummy is not bloated? not sure what to feel as i get these pains all the time??? friday is test day!!!

Moonlit · 09/09/2008 13:24

Hi DungunGirl - I am glad you still come on this thread. Weight loss is down to 10 stone and 12lbs, thank you for the encouragement I appreciate it .

I have had the the flu for the past three days, so I feel like crap!

Hope everyone else is good!

xxx

cam75 · 09/09/2008 13:52

moonlit i too am feeling fluish
but after work home to bed b4 it get's even worse..

DungunGirl · 10/09/2008 12:44

Hey Moonlit!

It will be hard to leave this thread...as I have shared so many ups and downs here...

Well done on the weight loss! Do you mean you weight under 11 stone now? That is great.

I wouldn't classify you as being too overweight at all if that is the case!

Even after all my weight loss I am still 14 st!!!

Found out something that really irritated me the other week..that girl off Eastenders that lost 2.5 stone, went from a size 18 to a size 10!

I lost 2.5 stone and went down 1 dress size! 18 to 16. Can get into some 14....but not all!

What is that about!!!!!!

Moonlit · 10/09/2008 16:06

Hi DungunGirl

Yes I am under 11 stone now and a size 14. Well I was obese before according to my BMI and now I am overweight, which I guess is good when I have my appointment. I think celebrities talk a lot of crap, I remember reading that to about going from 18 to 10 a load of rubbish. So don't feel too bad. Your weight loss helped you to get pregnant and I am hoping mine will too

x

DungunGirl · 11/09/2008 12:54

That BMI is rubbish.

It sounds like to me that you were just overweight and not obese in the first place.

but never mind...the important thing is you have done really well and I hoping so hard for you that you get that BFP soon!

I can't believe I am close to my 12 week scan! Only another 2 weeks!!

I can't wait for the nausea to stop as it will mean that I can stop stuffing my face all day!

I was sure i would have gained loads and loads of weight, but luckily I have only gained back 1kg/2 pounds.

Considering I have stopped going to the gym and am eating ALL THE TIME, I am quite surprised!

Moonlit · 11/09/2008 13:57

DungunGirl - Where is the time going. I can't believe you are almost 12 weeks. I think I might join the gym for a while to .

weecarol · 11/09/2008 17:16

Just a wee message to everyone who suffers from the dreaded PCOS not to give up hope, it will happen one day for you all.
My story is this, I'm 30 and 31 weeks pregnant with my first, a wee boy infact! It has taken me years to get here, years of tears and heartbreak and just the feeling that nothing would ever happen.
We started TTC 9 years ago, when I was 21 and DH was 23. My GP wouldnt entertain a referral to a specialist until we had been TTC for 2 years, had no obvious symptoms of PCOS so was never tested by GP. I have always been slightly underweight if anything, I had some acne but nothing major that Dianette didnt fix when I wasnt TTC, no excess hair, Periods were erratic though. Anyway after we finally got a referral to a gynaecologist I was told that I was "probably going through early menopause". I can't describe how that felt to hear that aged 23, turns out he was wrong though. Blood tests were conclusive of PCOS, I was just given the diagnosis, no explanation, I had to do my own research to get info about what PCOS is.
I was given another appt with Gyn 3 months later and started on clomid, while it did regulate my periods, I was on it for 12 months and nothing happened on the baby front. Everyone around me was getting pregnant and I ended up with depression on prozac, feeling a failure. I tried to push my DH away, telling him he would be better off with someone who could give him a family. I was a mess. My consultant gynae retired and I got a younger, more proactive consultantwho gave me a laparoscopy and told me my ovaries were like 2 bunches of grapes. He referred me to the Assisted Conception Service at my local hospital with the facility. Another years wait and we reached the top of that list, all the while still TTC. We were both tested to ensure that DH didnt have a problem either and granted funding for IUI. First cycle I ended up with over 25 viable follicles after 7 days on meds, cycle was cancelled and I ended up with ovarian hyper-stimulation syndrome! Took us 6 months to go through it again because of the pain I was in with the OHSS. This time my meds were halved in dosage and after 9 days I had 16 follicles, again leading the IUI cycle to be cancelled. Ironic that I was now on the verge of being TOO fertile! Depression followed and it was deemed unsafe to continue while I was on the antidepressants.
Jump to summer last year, nearly 8 years of TTC we again started with the fertility treatment. Another cycle of IUI was cancelled due to my ovaries reacting too well to the medication, My consultant at the ACS unit suggested we might be better suited to IVF due to my ovarian response to the meds, so we had to go through signing all the consent forms again as obvioulsy these differ from the IUI forms. I was told I could book in for my first cycle after Christmas 2007, depending on my periods. My perioad came and went in January and we decided that we would go for it with the next mentural cycle, I again had to go up to fill out forms and sign on the dotted line. I mentioned to the fertility nurse that I still hadnt had a period but as mine were so erratic she advised me to wait anothe 4 weeks then contact them and they would do some bloods to check what my hormones were playing at.
A few weeks later I noticed I was so very easily exhausted and my wee boobs were getting slightly bigger, convinced I was imagining it until a friend noticed I filled out a top more than usual! Bought a wee cheap PT from boots because I knew that my GP would ask if I had done one if I went to se her about it, I sat and read the instructions, saying to leave it for 5 mins for the reading etc, but it only went and gave me a big great blue line in seconds! I couldnt believe it, thought it was obviously a dodgy test or a false positive so went back to boots, got another 2 tests, different makes and they were positive too! To be sure got DH to bring another in on his way from work, again a positive!
So we concieved naturally, after 9 years, EDD 16th Nov and still can't quite believe it. Cant wait to meet my special wee man.
Just wanted to say that if I can get pregnant after all these years then don't give up and keep pushing for the treatment all you girls deserve. Its a hard road and an emotional one that no-one else really understands unless you are in the same position and the suppost I have seen in this thread is amazing. I wish I knew about it when I was TTC.
Much love to all of you.

sarah76 · 14/09/2008 11:23

Hi all, don't know if anyone remembers me from a few months back, but just wanted to stop by and share the good news. . .I'm seven weeks pregnant today!

I'm 32 now, PCOS suspected since I was 25. I've always been overweight, and this past May weighed in at a whopping 18st when I started Weight Watchers for the 10th time. I'm only 5'3", but luckily fairly solidly built so at most I've been a UK 22-24.

Three years ago I came off dianette to see whether I had any semblance of a cycle, and I starting charting. My now ex-husband and I 'tried' for a while (in quotes because he didn't like sex very much, so we barely did it once a month). My GP referred me to the fertility unit after an ultrasound to look for fibroids showed enlarged and polycystic ovaries.

With the fertility clinic, XH got his sperm checked and it was fine (funny, no one ever actually asked how much sex we were having!). They officially diagnosed me with PCOS, advised me to lose weight and come back in 6 months. GP put me on metformin and reductil, and I did lose some, but not enough. Advised to keep losing and come back again, but they did schedule an HSG.

By the time the HSG came around, XH and were separated and I was seeing my current DP (this was last June). I went anyway, figuring at least I should know if my pipes were clear. They were fine, and then I was discharged from the fertility unit since XH and I were no longer together.

DP and I decided a few months later (about Sept last year) that we would stop using birth control, mainly because we didn't think I'd get pregnant anyway, and because we knew we were staying together and were both ready to have children if it happened. We were responsible and got STI testing just to be safe, and then quit the condoms. I kept charting because I am a data analyst at heart. We had only about two cycles where we managed to BD within the right timeframe; otherwise we missed it completely or I didn't ovulate. Not surprising since I never knew what day of month O would happen, or if it would happen at all (even with charting CM!).

So fast forward a year, and I'm pregnant! Some major changes have happened--I quit my stressful job in London and we moved north to Warrington in Cheshire in April. DP and I joined WW together and I lost a stone. I started having reflexology. I took agnus castus, multivitamins, omega 3-6-9 oils, & cinnamon. My cycles started to get shorter, and I was ovulating more than I ever had before (and not having those mega 116 day anovulatory cycles).

I found with my charting that I really needed to watch my CM and cervical position to clue myself in to when I would ovulate. The CM wasn't as useful as the CP. Because of being overweight, I seem to have gobs of CM intermittently. But the CP does change day to day, and I could tell my cervix was going higher and softer--got much better at predicting O! We finally managed to BD the day before I ovulated. I had an implantation bleed at 10dpo but thought it was my AF starting early since I normally had an 11 day luteal phase. At 14dpo I was pretty sure something was up and had just the faintest positive...DP didn't even believe it and waited until I took another the next day.

So I'm 7 weeks pg now, never thought it would happen naturally (even for us 'morbidly obese' ladies), completely convinced we'd be going for clomid in the next year or so. Now I'm on to a whole new set of worries, basically whether or not the PCOS is going to make me more likely to miscarry. But just wanted to stop and share and say it can and does happen naturally! Even if I have a MC, I'm so pleased that it actually happened in the first place.

DungunGirl · 15/09/2008 10:38

Hi Sarah76

I remember you! What wonderful news! COngratulations!

What a journey to go through eh! Well done on losing a stone! I put myself on a hard-core gym/low GI diet programme and lost 2 and a half stone and it did the trick for me too!

I am 10 going on to 11 weeks pregnant!

So another case of kicking PCOS in the arse!Hooray!!!!!

I am so pleased for you sarah76. Congrats again!

sarah76 · 15/09/2008 11:30

Yayyyyyyy!!!!!!

Screw you, PCOS! We made beans!

My DP and I are so sad. . .ever since the scan he's been drawing pictures of a little bean with a smiley face.

Moonlit · 15/09/2008 12:23

Hi Sarah76 and Weecarol - Well done ladies for defying PCOS. You guys really deserve all the happiness in the world. I hope your little beans are angels .

Hey DungunGirl - Are you feeling any better?

Well it's just 1 week until my fertility appointment. I am dreading it because I am worried they are going to make me and my DH repeat all our tests again. I really don't want to waste anymore time. My weight is still coming down slowly. But from reading threads on here, every hospital is different. Some just give you help straight away whilst others make you jump through hoops.

On a good note, I managed to potty train my DD in two days! Hurrah!!!!

xxx

DungunGirl · 16/09/2008 09:40

moonlit

Starting to slowly feel a little more human again. I think it is because the pregnancy hormones are settling down a little.
I read somewhere that from week 9 the placenta begins to take over so symptoms can start to get better from that point.

Well done on potty training DD! How old is she? I have JUST cracked potty training DS too. It took ages though! He is 3.5 years old and it took about 2 months! But I think we have done it now.

Moonlit · 16/09/2008 09:47

Hi DungunGirl - I am so pleased you are starting to feel better. You can finally enjoy your pregnancy

DD is 2.5 years old. I used Gina Fords' potty training in one week book. An absolutely excellent book. I can't believe it only took two days. We have taken her out for the whole day and there were no accidents. She always tells us in time she needs to go. Also the star chart is an excellent idea. I was terrified about potty training, but it was easier than I thought. Thank goodness!!!

Moonlit · 17/09/2008 18:17

PCOS can kiss my bum!!!!!!!!!

I AM PREGANT!!!!!

I can't stop crying