What IVF dose and how many eggs did you get?

[Hyppyb]

Hey,

It's my second cycle if ivf, I'm on Bemfola 225 iu and it's day 4 of my cycle. Last time I was on Gonal F 150iu. Was wondering if it will produce more eggs now.

Just wanted to ask anyones dosage, the name of their ivf medication and the egg result, home many were retrieved?

@Hyppyb I thought that the same ate was a good sign too although a little spooky. I'm really trying not to think of it, I still have a few weeks until I'm start taking the meds, the more I think of it the more stressed I get about another failed transfer. I'm happy living in my own little 'oblivious bubble' at the moment :)
This will be the first time I've had Lubion too, its one a day and I assume until 12 weeks but the said they would give me more details on this nearer the transfer date. I too think my progesterone is too low as on both failed transfers I started bleeding/spotting within the week which some say is OK but I still convinced this is playing a factor in it. In fact on the first failed FET I was starting to spot on the day of the transfer with increased spotting 2/3 days later. Luckily I get this through the NHS so unsure how much it is privately, I'm sure private costs mount up that is why I'm trying to do as much as I can via the NHS so once I go private I would have eventually covered a lot of the tests/medications.
Any sign of this months period? I'm hoping it falls on the days you want as easier to align up with days booked off. I've booked the 3 possible transfer days off in July so will cancel the 2 days it doesn't fall on nearer the time.
I have heard that estrogen symptoms similar to pregnancy which is difficult to monitor isnt it :(

@SH998 I would say try not to think about everything too much, just go with the motions of having the FET, if you get pregnant this time great, if you don't it sucks but you are likely to get pregnant with the remaining embryos as its 1 in 4 that a live baby will come from them and you had 5. With me I don't know if my etopic was that healthy baby so my chances are well reduced but not going to get hung up on that just have to keep moving forward. Go through the motions.

I don't believe my progesterone is low. I've had 3 failed embryo transfers so the docs are just thinking of reasons for it, although they know its doubtful it is as its 95% of failed transfers is the actual embryo, genetic problems. Ive had hormone level checks in the past and was fine.

I don't know if I will have Lubion. A person from the clinic said lubion can only be picked up at 2 clinics in Central London. Sounds crazy to me and if that's true I'm sick of doctors not telling you everything it's happened so many times! I will talk to the doc at a scan, see what they say but I doubt I will check the progesterone levels if that is the case unless there's an alternative like more progesterone suppositories a day to increase progesterone level.

No period yet, I'm hoping I'm full flow Friday but if I'm not I will wing it and make my excuses.I don't really go into FETs believing it will happen, which is good for me keeps me balanced. This time I have started baby asprin quite early 30 days before FET. So will see if that helps like a thicker lining. Also may help with any potential clotting issues not saying that I have any. When I had my last egg collection I was very anaemic, 88 haemoglobin should be 115 and higher, now 116 still have smaller cells. I was thinking I still created blastocysts even though I was that deficient. Hoping they're OK enough to implant if any are normal.

The eostrogen is definitely the one thing that isn't the best about FETs everything else is fine. We'll see.

@SH998 so positive news my period started today, will be in full flow later today / tomorrow. Will start my 3 x 2mg eostrogen tomorrow. So Monday will call clinic to arrange my day 10 scan. That day has been booked off at work as I expected my cycle to go this way. Really hoping i have just the 1 scan. 28th if my lining and eggs behave (suppressed by eostrogen) I imagine is my transfer day. Love the sedation. One thing I will miss about it all. 😆

Baby asprin may lead to my period being heavier due to it being a blood thinner, hopefully not too much, but will see. I am on iron which has got my haemoglobin from 88 to 116.

Had quite a few stresses recently with my job, just been told tenant I rent a flat out to has stopped paying the rent and not communicating with my lettings agent, the flat I rent out the roof needs fixing so a huge bill with the other leaseholders coming. I am going to stay as zen as I can. I don't want it messing with my IVF. I've seen it say stress in some women can block their hormones which can stop ovulation which as you know is soooo bad. No point in causing more stress.

@Hyppyb Oh I'm sorry to hear the additional stress your under with work and home life. I really hope you manage to sot the issues out with the agent, some people have no morals and clearly expect to live there for noting with others footing the bill! I hope your managing to stay zen with all this happening.
On to positive thoughts, hows the meds going so far? You felling OK in yourself? Will you know a more definate transfer date after your scan?

@SH998
So started 3 x 2mg estradiol on Sunday. Day 2 of full flow period. So far so good. I start getting affected of the estrogen post transfer. Lots of cramps.

I will only find out the transfer date at a scan when my womb lining is thick enough, I think it's 7.5mm and above or 8.5mm can't remember what the clinics ideal thickness is. My first scan is 19th, next Monday, day 10. Depending on it this they may increase my eostrogen pills (never have) if its too thin. If its progressing OK but not thick enough then I would go back day 14. I'm so hoping the asprin makes my lining thick enough by my first scan.

I'm planning on back to back FETs if I'm not successful this FET, then I think a egg collection in October. Hopefully I won't have to. Its just the rest of the year it will be hard to take time off work now. If I get pregnant this FET I will do a Halloween pregnancy announcement at the time. It's nice to think of positive things.

How are you doing? Have you been googling? Getting prepared for your FET? Before you know it it will be here for sure. Have you decided if you will take time off after for it? One doc described the embryo like a pearl in an oyster. So it really is snug inside once its inside there.

@Hyppyb scan day tomorrow isn’t it, how are you feeling about it? Any side effects from the meds? Have you been making a note of everything this time around? I will be so I’ll have notes for next time around.
What grade egg is being used this time, I want to say a 4cb?
I have booked the day off work this time but will be back in the following day, last time I took the following day off and it made no different. I think I’ll use baby aspirin next time, didn’t you say you need to use 30 days before transfer? If so it’s too late for this cycle x

@SH998 Yes scan tomorrow, day 10, first lining thickness and eggs supression check. No real side effects from eostrogen yet. Will be 5 day 4cb this time, which leaves a 6 day 4cb which I read is likely to be a girl. In IVF the best looking and best growing rate is usually a boy but slow growing is usually a girl.

I feel a bit numb to it. As you know I've done this lots of times before. I'm just going through the motions not thinking it's definitely going to happen. I feel like I don't really think about the potential baby anymore more like just going to dentist but better. This time I didn't even have any contact with my patient co ordinator I arranged everything myself.

Baby asprin it's not too late to take now. Some clinics tell their patients to take baby asprin as part of their policy, unless they have other issues where they couldnt take asprin. Some IVF women take it all the time, others start when their cycle starts or start when taking eostrogen, some a week before transfer. I read in the same clinic some doctors will recommend it others wont tell you to take it but all will state that the evidence show it wont cause any harm and that it has helped a minority of women get and stay pregnant. IVF fertility just says it's pointless waiting after transfer. I was told to take one just before bed. It's meant to help get blood to the uterus, to prevent clotting and a thicker lining. Exercise and pomegranate juice is said to help also. I exercise anyway.

So will see if my lining is thicker than last time on day 10, it was 6.7mm and 7mm prior. Day 14 9.7mm. I always make notes on my menstruation app. They want the lining at 7.5mm and over. Usually I have a day 14 scan but hoping I don't have to as will have to make an excuse at work to go.

I booked the 26th to 28th off for my transfer but that's because I didn't know when my period would start, if my transfer is the 28th then I will be working the next day. As you say it doesn't matter. If its going to happen it will. Its 95% down to if the embryo is normal and healthy enough to go through the implantation process, if you are jumping up and down, over heating exerting your body during the implantation process that can have an effect, everything else wont.

Kourtney Kardashian is pregnant at 44. She froze her eggs at 39, they failed the thawing (they weren't embryos which are way stronger) did ivf, then natural and now is pregnant. So if she can we can. 😊

@SH998 So had my day 10 scan, she said my lining was 6.7mm. Exactly the same as my last day 10. I was hoping the baby asprin would make it thicker than last time. She said my eggs were quiet.

She's told me to come on day 13, Thursday not day 14 like every other FET I've had, for next scan. I get why. It's so that she can say tomorrow day 14 start taking the progesterone rather than me come in day 14 and she say take it ASAP. So very much looking like my FET will be day 19, as its 5 days of progesterone, next day transfer. Next Wendesday.

I've worked out from the past FETs my lining at this point thickens 0.75mm a day so by day 13 in theory it will be 8.95mm and that's fine. Way over the 7.5mm. Did have to make some excuses with work to get Thursday off. Ah well.

So are you expecting your period next week? When does your clinic say to start the eostrogen pills? Well it's all happening soon.

@SH998 So I have some news. My medicated FET has become a natural/medicated FET. Day 13, today had 2nd scan, my lining was 8.8mm, I predicted it'd be 8.95 which if I was scanned later in the day not at 8am I would have been. The Nurse Practitioner was thrilled! Saw the 3 layers.

She started scanning my ovaries and my right ovary had a 18.mm follicle. I was like oh no! I thought the follicles had to be suppressed for a medicated cycle. The Nurse was like no its a good thing and it does happens sometimes. It means today I can have the ovitrille (hcg) injection, tomorrow I will ovulate, then this will go in line with the progesterone pessaries I start taking also. So ovulation on that precise day will top up my progesterone levels for sure. It's more that they don't want you to ovulate too early in a natural FET as that would produce progesterone too early, meaning they wouldn't know what time to insert the embryo.

So yeah....a nurse injected me with the hcg, i start progesterone pessaries tomorrow, for 5 days, Wednesday my embryo transfer. I have to remember about the hcg injection as if I forget I'm going to think I'm pregnant from the test if some still remains in my system.

Something different to report 😊

@SH998 she also commented that my blood flow was really good so that could be the baby asprin.

@Hyppyb sorry for the lack of replies, I was away last week. Kept it to the UK in case period started early and I needed to get home. Had a lovely, chilled week, I definitely needed it before starting this unpredictable journey again lol 😂
Well that’s fantastic news about the lining, just what you need it to be. Wow an 18mm follicle on suppressed meds, that’s unusual but not a bad thing. This will hopefully release additional hormones in keeping with a natural cycle.
How are you feeling with the meds? I tested day 4 on last transfer and the trigger was out of my system as a complete negative but maybe leave it a little later to be on the safe side, you don’t want to be experiencing a fake positive. The countdown is on for the transfer now? How are you feeling about it all?
I know your very level headed and calm about it all, I wish I was lol 😂 x

@SH998 Hey, please don't worry about prompt replies, I was more just updating as things were happening to keep you in the loop while it was fresh as I wanted to give you as much detail as some info regarding all this isn't easily available online and doctors I find the least forthcoming.

It's good to hear you had a nice time away, a bit of a refresher may do you the world of good as you restart your fertility journey. So your cycle starts soon? Have you got your meds at home ready? Grade B embryo?

Thanks, I feel like during this process it's emotionally and financially hard, failed attempts, miscarrying, how can you not get upset, but if you put too much emotion in how would you be able to continue? So I do try to take as much emotion out as I can. Go through the motions.

This time has been different, very bloated, like my tummy is huge, just like after my egg collections. Must be the eostrogen. Then couple days after the trigger I fell asleep during the day maybe the HCG, first time thats happened with FET cyclr, only when pregnant.

So yeah it's like my body is the perfect vessel for receiving the embryo, good lining, loads of progesterone...but what does that mean if the embryo isn't normal. We can do everything to our bodies but 95% is down to a healthy embryo. I will test the trigger out. Took a test a day after trigger, it was very positive so will do another test on Wednesday, watch as it fades and if it gets darker I will know for sure.

The plan is on Wednesday to drink loads 3 hours before FET, after I plan on walking for about 20 mins, a woman on YouTube did that after her succesful FET to promote blood flow to uterus. When I got pregnant before I did no mild exercise so I don't believe is one will ensure success but I just want to do something different. So will see how this one goes. I do feel different time.

@SH998 An update - an embryologist called today, just to go over the details of my transfer, exactly the same info the nurse said yesterday. I did ask him about the blastocyst quality. He said they would never freeze an embryo they didn't believe wouldn't give a good chance of pregnancy. That to them C is average, B is above average and I guess a A is excellent. So I thought I'd share that. As online the literature is different, C is poor.😊

@Hyppyb hey that’s great news, 2 embryos left of average quality is pretty awesome. My embryologist advised also an A is really good, B is good and C was average but as you said a lot of sites state C is of poor quality which it isn’t. Most sites say different things so it’s hard to know which is correct.
Please continue to keep me updated on your findings, a lot of the things you’ve told me isnt always easy to find online and a lot of information is conflicting. Now I just go via yourself, your my own little google lol :)
What time is your transfer tomorrow? You said you’re taking the rest of the day off didn’t you? I’ll be doing the same although I don’t think it makes much difference. Are you taking a friend or going alone? To be fair the transfer is second nature to us both now it’s happened that many times, I could do it with my eyes closed lol 😂
Well my period started 1 day early on Sunday so on third day of progynova, dosage will increase to 3 a day on day 6. My scan is booked for 6th July which I think is 11/12 days after period start date so wouldn't know much until then I guess. I’m feeling OK at the moment but it’s still early days for me. I normally feel quite fat so a little bloating wouldn’t be noticed over here lol x

@Hyppyb sorry forgot to mention, yes a grade B this time. I think it’s a 5B which was the same as when I miscarried. Also transfer dates will be within a day or so of that transfer date as my period arrived early … I’m hoping that all these are positive signs it will work this time x

@Hyppyb and I’ve started the baby aspirin

@SH998 Happy to hear you have started your cycle and have started your meds and baby asprin. Day 11 and 12 are good days to have your scan, my clinic I feel scans too early at day 10, it's never thick enough. I definitely see all these coincidences as being a good thing. Thinking it's not will only taint your experience. I get it. I feel like after a pregnancy loss there's a huge cloud over your head. I constantly think about 5 and a half weeks, will I get pass that in another pregnancy. That was when i had serious cramping. Also it was life threatening and to risk that again. Obviously trying to think positively.

I'm the only one apart from my clinic and online that knows I'm conceiving via ivf and a sperm bank. The reason why is the only person I trust to speak to my potential child about this stuff is myself, I want to be the one to discuss that they're donor conceived. Friends know I'm trying to conceive but that's it. I know what people are like they will make stuff up. Mindy Kaling said until she can have a conversation with her children about their parentage, then she's not telling anyone and its for her kids to share if they want
I totally agree with that. Conception is such a personal thing between a parent and child, no one else has a right to know anything. People can be so entitled and arrogant to think it's their business. My plan is to read donor conceived books and a book I will write myself from an early age to my kid so they always know.

My transfer is 10.45am, need to get there at 10am. I booked the day off. As you say it's same old. I know exactly what goes down. It's my 8th attempt of pregnancy and my 4th FET. I feel like I will know by day 5 or 6 post transfer if I am pregnant.

Will update. Fingers crossed we get our rainbow babies this time round.

@Hyppyb at the moment it’s not even entering my head about hitting that 8 week milestone that I didn’t meet last time, I’m just hoping to get pregnant, every milestone after that will be a bonus and dealt with at the time. For you, your obviously going to be far more cautious due to the ectopic and seriousness of it. It is hard not to compare in that situation. The first I knew something was wrong was when symptoms practically disappeared overnight a few days before the 8 week scan.
Your being very sensible about all this and thinking with your head instead of your heart. I have a big mouth and wouldn’t be able to stay as quiet as you lol. Your doing the right thing as Chinese whispers often grow into untruths, that’s the last thing you want a child to hear and especially from someone other than it’s mother, just make sure you have someone to talk to should it get to much or you just need to vent.
This will be my 4th transfer too, let’s hope it’s a successful one for us both and we get our rainbow babies 🌈.
Would be amazing if we could go through this journey together.
Wishing you all the best for tomorrow. Good luck and please keep me updated x

@Hyppyb all the best for today, I have everything crossed for you :)

@SH998 Aww thank you. 😊 It went well. One of the doctors said it went perfectly, couldn't have gone better, I think she said the embryo was released at 1.5mm which is the best area. She showed me in the scan. You can see the catheter and the dark area on the right side is one of my fibroids.

So I am PUPO, pregnant until proven otherwise. I think I will know by Monday. Will test tomorrow morning to see how dark the pregnancy test is still.

Only a few days to go for your scan. Hope it's thick enough by then and your eggs are behaving.

@Hyppyb oh wow that’s great :). It’s amazing that the little bean was conceived in a little dish and now in your tummy ready to begin it’s life with you 🙏🏻🤞🏼, it really is amazing how it all works.
How are you feeling? Was the trigger line still showing last night? So you will start testing on day 5 or sooner? When did you start getting symptoms/feelings on your last positive? Did you know before testing it would be positive?
I don’t recall anything before testing (again wish I had made a note as it’s a year ago now). I can remember once I had tested maybe day 8 or so the whole night my stomach felt strange, not pulling just a weird feeling I’ve never experienced before but nothing before the test.

@SH998 it is truly amazing how our embryos have been created. We are lucky to be born in a time that we get this kind of assistance in creating life for sure. 😊

I'm feeling fine. Not had any symptoms, usually the eostrogen pills kick in but so far so good. I tested this morning, 7 days past trigger and the test is still really dark, last time this day I tested much lighter, so it's taking some time for the trigger to go. 2 and 3 days past embryo there was line last time but I'm 1 day past and it's so dark. I think this means either if I'm not pregnant it will fade and go, if I am pregnant the line won't go, it will fade a little then get darker. Sometimes the line never goes.

Last time got pregnant it was different because it was a fresh transfer so I didn't have eostrogen pills so no side effects from that which made it clear to spot pregnancy symptoms. Yes I knew I was pregnant before my BFP. I had implantation cramping, 2 days past transfer, sharp pains, like a little woodpecker in my womb, I walked to work hunchback, lasted 2 days. That's how I knew.

How are you feeling? Getting excited? Or anxious? Does your partner come to the scans and transfers? I always see partners in the tiny waiting room. What I like about the clinic is there is no judgement unlike the nhs where I've had a doc say really un PC things about being single and TTC. Hope you are taking it easy.

**last time 2dpt and 3dpt no line, 1dpt barely a line, this time 1dpt very strong dark line.

@SH998 food wise I've been eating really healthily, but I did buy Baileys Colada, if I'm pregnant of course that's in the cupboard until mid March but if I'm not pregnant that will be my consolation prize. Never tried it before. I've not had alcohol since January.

@Hyppyb how are you feeling? Any signs? As you say it’s difficult to tell the difference between the meds and pregnancy symptoms.
Im feeling ok at the moment, I’m sure the nerves will kick in nearer the scan on Thursday. My partner comes to the transfers although I could do it alone, that’s the easy part of it all. They are quite strict and expect partners to attend the transfers. I do the scans alone as he’s not allowed in the room so seems pointless taking time off work to sit in the waiting room.