SYMPTOMS, SYMPTOMS, READ ALL ABOUT IT!!! 2wwaiters chat and cuppas at the ready[grin]

[MrsEi25]

righty-ho ladies heres for a lucky thread now what are your symptoms then?? im not even on my 2ww and im convinced its this month... {note to self: must not get obsessed} yeah right...
xx ei xx

I think 12days PO could be too early. Don't give up yet.

I did a test at CD33 got a BFN - I am now on day CD36 with no sign of AF.

I have extraordinary willpower with regard to not testing. At least at the moment I have a bit of hope. I am going to wait another 2 days I think.

I'm usually very good at not testing but I ov'ed so late this cycle, I'm on CD56!! It has been going on so long now.

I hope AF stays away for you. How long are your cycles usually willmouse?

willmouse - I think you need to change your posting name to willPOWER, because you have so much of it . I would be testing away if it was me, but I am very impatient. Get thee to Boots for a CBD!

scully do you ahve a condition called scoliosis, which means you see a chiropractor? My friend had it.

hello scaryhairy - we've missed you and I am so sorry to hear that you have been feeling down. I have had a few emotional ups and downs with TTC recently, so I can empathise with convincing yourself you are PG and then getting woefully disappointed. Please do not give up and we are here if you need a moan.

Jollybear - hang in there and get the scan out of the way.

Well, I took your advice 07MTW and went for a reflexology sessio this morning. Quite naughty of me, 'cause I told work it was a doctor's appointment as she coudl only fit me in during office hours. It was lovely and I am suddenly feeling all fertile and serene . Send all your baby dust this way (the sticky sort ).

I haven't had another in-depth discussion with DH about the testing, mainly because he's getting home at midnight and leaving the house at 7am. I have told him,calmly, that I want him to go this week or we will have an "issue" (and I'm not talking the white stuff with swimmers in it. Aarghh, can't believe I just wrote that on a public forum!). Next week the key week for TTC and you have to go without BD-ing for three whole days before the test, which is not an option at that time of the month, so before you know it you've wasted another week. Lo and behold...it's March before he gets round to it.

I have decided to get things moving for me and booked another appointment at the GP without waiting for DH's results, which I was originally doing. Because my cycles are always super-regular I wanted to rule out a DH problem first before we went any further, but I am past that now.

Big hello to hattyyellow bucky mibbes MrsEi and everyone else.

picnmix have you moved house yet? You will now have to "christen" every room by BD-ing in it

Jollybear you have my heartfelt sympathies with a 56 day cycle! I used to have really long cycles when ttc no1. It used to really depress me.

I have tried to look back at my cycles (I record them discreetly on the kitchen calendar so I know when I am due). Back in August I had a 35 day cycle but Last time it was 32 days, the three previous to that were 28 days.

As I have had a long cycle before I think it would be wise to wait a bit more before testing again.

Having said that I have been weeing for England this morning and now feel distinctly faint and strange now that it is lunchtime (and it can't be hunger as I have eaten 4 biscuits this morning).

Also I went to bed last night at 11.00 and then went to the loo at 12.00is and and again at 4ish and then woke up at 6.50 desperate again!

• time will tell no doubt.

Just did a test and got another BFN (used predictor).

Perhaps I am just going to have a long cycle this time

about the BFN willmouse

Hi Ladies,

It sure has been busy on here. Sounds horrible to have a bad back Bucky and Mrs EI.

Sorry about BFN willmouse. Although its not over until AF rears her ugly head. One question erm are you .. Constipated just that seems to be a sign for a lot of people and was for me.

Will pop in later after swimming.

hi ladies
how is everyone today?? im just sticking around for a bit to avoid tidying the house as we have got a survey tomorrow for our buyer and the house is like a pigsty!!
willmouse sorry about your BFN
hi to everyone else aswell
xx ei xx

'tis quiet on this 'ere thread today. Cooooee everyone!

willmouse, i wud like 2, but depends on DH! He doesn't even know that i might have been! CB digitals r supposed gud, but first response gives u an earlier result!
Is this your first pregnancy, soz carn't remember spoke 2 so many MNetters!

Wow - I've been reading and trying to catch up for the last half hour and have even ended up writing notes, so here goes - a mega-post...

Scully - I hope your DD is feeling better. Mine split her lip a couple of weeks ago while I was out and I came home to find her sitting on DH's knee wearing a blood soaked towel. I thought she must have knocked her teeth out from all the blood. They know how to shock us, hey?

Picknmix did I read that you are moving soon? Am impressed by fitting 3 BD into 2 days and packing up a house - very efficient!

GG I am sorry to read that you've been having a hard time. I think TF summed it up best. Men do get frightened of change, and can be poo. In fairness to your DH it does sound as though he is working very hard and men do grow up thinking "me man. me provide" and that going to work all day is all that is required of them. It takes quite a lot to deprogram them IME! When you do manage to speak to him, would you consider suggesting that you both go to a clinic, such as Zita West? I've been reading her website and while there would be a test of the diddy men, they take a holistic approach and look at diet and all sorts. It also says most problems can be fixed without IVF, and maybe it would help your DH to be told that (i.e. if the problem is his swimmers, it may be treatable).

TF I hope the black eye is going down.

I have my fingers crossed for JB

Hi to Pinky, Willmouse and Disenchanted who I had not met before.

Mibbes re the charting, I would put sticky and add a note in that space at the bottom of the data entry form.

Glad you're back and feeling better CK

So sorry to anyone I have missed... my pen ran out and there are a bunch of undecipherable scratches on my page!

I think I ovulated in the night last night, although my temp is still low. DH is still away a lot and last night drove for a couple of hours to come home and make a deposit. Unfortunately he can't come back today to seal the deal (I still have some EWCM), but it was a good effort all around.

hi scary how lovely of your DH to drive all the way home to fertilise you i had a strange moment where roy orbison was playing in my head when i read that
not much happenin here unfortunately...no symptoms are good symptoms though...
xx ei xx

LOL at Roy Orbison!

(I shall tell DH that should be our song. It's just unfortunate that he's doing the driving, otherwise we could have the Cyndi Lauper version. Ooops, showing my age there!)

JB HCB thanks for FF info. Sorry you got BFN but probably too early to test - do you know how long Luteal phase usually is ?
GG good for you taking positive action
another -ve opk and no more EWCM for em today so the wait continues....

Scaryhairy . Glad to see you back we missed you my ex-cycle buddy. Hope you are feeling bright as a button today .

Belated welcome to Willmouse and pinky

Confession time for me...I've been at the gin again . I just have weird state of mind at the moment. I kind of subconsciously convince myself that there will be no BFP each month (I guess so that when AF turns up I am not too disappointed). Then once I decide its not going to happen I just get up to naughtiness. I only had 3 G&Ts but still, not exactly making a welcoming environment for a bean. What was that GG 'caution never affected fate?' Well let's hope this is the gospel according to whoever gives out babies!

How is everyone doing today anyway? PicknMix and Hatty where are you?????

Bucky - I like the phrase "fate is unaffected by caution", which I though was quite profound and sort of summed up my attitude at the moment . I succumbed to the lure of red wine last night , but it was CD4, so I thought I could chance it. That means no sypmtom spotting for weeks, but I'll hang around here with you ladies if I may

PMSL at Roy Orbison , MrsEi.

I am very impressed at your DH's dedication to the cause scary. I once read a thread on here about someone asking (I think seriously) if they could freeze their husband's swimmers in ice cube trays in the freezer amongst the frozen peas, because her DH was working away during the key dates . The answer was swift and definite "NO!" from all the wise scientific ladies on here.

hello to everyone else mibbes coolkat and hatty, wherever you are!

I am sooooo bored at work at the moment. It's gone all quiet (normally I work on project specific stuff and it's all ground to a halt) so I have spent a lot of time on MN learning all sorts of useful things

jollybear when is your scan. Fingers crossed everything looks fine for you

Hi scary How wonderful of your DH to travel back - that is dedication

Ei LOL at Roy Orbison

Bucky Naughty naughty I really hope sods law works for you and you get a BFP.

GG Glad to hear you are taking positive action and all the time spent at work doing your research is ideal

Hello to everyone else.

I did another HPT this morning (still only CD24 but 14 dpo) and it's still positive. Hopefully this is a sticky one.

Morning Ladies,

MrsEi are you still resisting the urge to test ? I was very proud of you yesterday .
JollyBear when do you plan to retest ? Are temps still roasty toasty ?
MTW all still going well then, sounds like a sticker ! Fingers crossed
Anyone else planning to test ? (wasn't around much yesterday so have fallen behind a bit)
Bucky don't beat your self up about a few gins - I had a few wines last night as was out with friends. Hope sod's law means BFP this time !

Well I have a temping query. This morning I had lowest temp ever 35.94 - my temps this cycle so far have been between 36.22-36.49 so this is a significant dip. I have read that a dip can occur just before the rise so if this is the case then surely ov is imminent. I just googled it and apparently as soon as you see dip you should bd... but no time for any action this morning . Obviously I'll try my best tonight but am concerned may have missed the boat (again grrr...). Anyone have any experience of this ? Oh and also I have not had any +ve opk yet, although am aware these don't work for everyone so maybe best not to rely too heavily on them..? Had some more stretchy cloudy CM last night and this morning.

GG enjoy the break at work and google about my dip in temp if you like ! I am way busy today - I hate it when work gets in the way of MN chat !

Morning all,

mibbes That does seem like a dip. I'd just BD as soon as you get home from work and try not to fret. Even if your temp rises tomorrow, do keep bd'ing until you get three days of high temps.

MTW great news!

wilmouse Sorry to hear about your BFN.

GG I think red wine on CD 4 is perfectly acceptable! My scan is at the end of Feb so I might still might be able to TTC next cycle depending on when (if??!! ) AF arrives.

I don't know how long my lutal phase is mibbes. I wish I did!!

Hello to everyone else!

TMI alert ! OMG just had a teeny weeny dot of blood when wiped, I have heard of this at ov time but have never experienced it before - is it good/bad ? I only spotted it because was doing very detailed analysis of CM quality on TP... I am amazed that I have had periods for almost 20 years and have never noticed any of these things that go on !
Am now really worried have missed the egg - boooooo Will have to use womanly powers when I get home to get a bd !

Could it be an implantation bleed? I think that is more likely.

Could be implantation mibbles - Eek. Never TMI on here I might add.

Bucky and Griffin enjoy everything in moderation only give up when you get your BFP. My doctor laughed a me when I said I had had a drink and eaten stilton prior to finding out!

Scary most impressed at your DH driving home I am pleased to be back

Willmouse where are you any news yet?

Mmm now I have seen a few people with bad backs on here and I need to know if there is something in the Symptom spotters gin because today as stupid as it sounds I have had an uncomfortable pain on my low right side. I can not decide if it is muscular or whether something could be going on inside. Wierd or what? Never had a bad back before really.

No news here

CD37 and still no sign of AF

I am slowly going nuts - which probably isn't helping.

I am wondering;

1. When to test again
2. Which test to use (am thinking of firstresponse or a digital one next time)
3. Whether I have in fact started the menopause at 33 (watching too much Eastenders)
4. Whether I should go to see the Doctor if nothing changes in a few days.

Thanks ladies but definitely not imp as have not ov'd yet this month - I think this is ov as had a temp dip this morning...
willmouse CB digital prob youe best bet

Hello mibbes I wouldn't worry - I had some blood streaked EWCM this month too, albeit earlish... well CD 32ish on my lengthy cycle! It can happen when you ov so jump on your DH as soon as he steps in the door

I think that as you say, you've never paid as much attention before! I certainly haven't!!