SYMPTOMS, SYMPTOMS, READ ALL ABOUT IT!!! 2wwaiters chat and cuppas at the ready[grin]

[MrsEi25]

righty-ho ladies heres for a lucky thread now what are your symptoms then?? im not even on my 2ww and im convinced its this month... {note to self: must not get obsessed} yeah right...
xx ei xx

Pistachio and Missus congratulations!! What lovely news to start the week with

DG did everything go okay with the internal scan, not read all the posts but presuming you and tinydigibean are okay?

GG at your DH, have a feeling mine would be acting similar in that situation...really hope he will go soon..

Abbey so sorry to hear about possible problems with your DD...hope both your consultant appts are okay and to see you back here soon..

Shreks will miss you

Jolly and Mibbes lol at your trying to beep quietly! Jolly would love to see you get a BFP this month pre the scan..everything crossed for you..

Waving to anyone I've missed...

Have a question..day 10 for me today - going by the Clearblue ovulation sticks info it says to start testing in correlation with your shortest cycle..recent cycles have been 31, 28, 30, 30 , 35.

So to go by the 28 day cycle I'd start on day 13...but am itching to start earlier..please stop me wasting money and starting today! It's very unlikely my cycles are suddenly going to get shorter than 28 days isn't it!?

And if I start testing on day 13 does that mean that technically I could get a smiley straight away? And how long after the smiley face do I have to grab DH?

We are away from day 12 to 16 at my mums which is disastrous...the girls are in her spare room and we are sleeping in the sitting room! Not quite sure how we're going to get a moment of privacy! I imagine with my longer cycles that I could be ovulating later though?

Any advice gratefully recieved...

hello everyone and thanks for the lovely words. DH and I are talking but he absolutely refuses to discuss the "going to the clinic" matter any further. I know what you are saying about him putting it off because he doesn't want to go to a grotty old hospital and w*nk into a test tube (sorry, I am crude because I am angry) and/or find out there might be an issue, but I am pretty sure it is work related.

He is really career focused (and I am usually so proud of him ) but the down side is that I can see that everything excpet his career is coming second best. He When backed into a corner (and we have been over and over it ), he simply refuses to discuss it any further.

furtively - you are sooo right when you say work is always busy. Who would admit to having a quiet and easy job?! . I have a high pressure job too with sometimes highly unreasonable hours, but I would find a way. He is putting job first and this worries me, because after a year of trying, he should be putting me/us/family first for once. He is busy - he worked all day yesterday and has been coming in at 11pm/midnight all week, but I would still make time. I think what owrries me most is that if there is a problem, I will not have the support and commitment I need and his work will get in the way. I think he has also changed his mind about a promise he made me three years ago - that we would move back to my home country when we had a family. Lately he goes very quiet on it. . I can see trouble ahead......

Congratulations, Pistcachio! What lovely, lovely news to start the week with! I'm so pleased for you.

GG - I'm really sorry to hear that things are still difficult. I think that I woud have the exact same worries and concerns if I were in your position. My DH is a 'backs into his cave' kind of man whenever something important crops up and discussions are needed. I generally have to perservere and wear him down. It's that or very calmly and matter of factly issung him with an ultimatum - that we talk it through like adults or I'm going to assume something very serious is wrong and I want to know what. This usually prompts him to start talking. I'm not advising that you do this because it is a really stressful way to go about doing things; it's just what I end up resorting to. I really hope that your DH sees sense very soon and starts talking or gets himself down to the clinic (he should realise that the sooner he does either of these things, the better). Don't forget that you can always come here to vent and get things off your chest.

Yeah! Congrats pistachio

Fairy that is evil of your body to send such mixed messages ggrrrr... could tingly boobs be a sign ov about to happen ? or maybe I'm just clutching at straws on your behalf !
scully sorry she got you
Pistachio fantastic news ! Any top tips for us ? did you do anything differently this cycle and what were symptoms ? Share the details so that we can add them to the archives for future reference ! Did you think you hadn't ov'd if you were doing opks last week ?
hatty I have similar cycle lengths to you (also inconsistent) and will be doing first opk on CD13 this month too so try to hold off ! and I agree that you may well ov after Cd16 so you'll hopefully not have to bd on your mum's sofa !
GG why are men so rubbish at talking ?! My dp is the same, we never have "serious" conversations, he runs a mile ! I can't imagine him being too keen on having his swimmers tested as men seem to equate strong swimmers with being more manly somehow... I think we have to conclude that men are weird but unfortunately we can't do this without them !

I am a BAD poster and virtual friend - I forgot to congratulate pistachio and missus!!! . You wll be bundling me off to the hut of doom soon

Thanks for the support everyone - you are all officially brilliant

mibbles furtively - typing this out makes DH sound so unreasonable. He is not, most of the time and discusses things, but he is adament that because he can put off going to the hospital, he will wait until it suits him to go. If he hasn't changed his mind by now, he won't . Normally, I could work on him and talk him round, but that takes a nice relaxed time and place (a beer too ). All unlikely, as he is so busy that any attempt to bring it up will be shoe-horned into the conversation when he is short of time and therefore will automatically be classed as "nagging" and he will refuse to discuss it any more.

I think I am so partly because we are in limbo until he does this, but mainly it's been more than a bl**dy YEAR of trying and he is putting work first (again). It's a pattern I don't like, and esp. if we need further medical help or investigations for TTC. What will happen if things really do start to get stressful? DH is very logical (a much better looking Mr Spok?? ) and weighed up in his mind what was more important to him and decided on work . That is what is so difficult, because after laying out all my carefully marshalled arguments as to why he should go TODAY (hell, I'm a lawyer I can be persuasive ) and finally asked "what is more important to you??!!" he looked surprised I need to ask, and said "at the moment, work. I'll go in a month"

Thanks for the hugs pistachio - I am absolutely thrilled for you and missus! Is there a due in October thread yet? You have a little pistachio "nut" instead of a bean!

hello to jolly bucky 07MTW twinkling hattyyellow and everyone. Sorry to anyone missed. Did you all have lovely weekends

hi ladies
GG just a suggestion but would it not be worth buyin one of the home sperm fertility tests for DH?? you could catch him unawares and take a sample to test at home. i was goin to do this if things dont work out (i dont give my DH any option but my way usually) for this cycle aswell as checking my own cycle activity etc just to cover the bases. this is what my friend did when TTC her DS and found that her DPs count was low according to the follow up test from the poor result iyswim!! he was advised to change his diet and stop smoking/drinking alcohol etc and BAM they got a BFP about 2 cycles later might have been a coincidence but you never know
anywho... how is everyone else??
pistachio CONGRATULATIONS!!!
sorry TEW got you scully
have i missed anyone out??
xx ei xx

Good morning all!

Pistachio Hooray! So happy for you!

GG - I really feel for you. I would be beyond hurt if DH decided work was more important than trying (in fact I would probably be in hysterical, inconsolable tears and would refuse to speak to him until he got tested - but I'm quite emotional!)

Well I spent a lovely weekend with some friends including a gorgeous 2 month old little girl. I was a complete and utter baby hog and had her sleeping on my chest for hours. So as I can't use all the baby dust I collected for myself I thought I would share it all with the rest of you! So here is tons of babydust for you! *

Oh and what does "TEW" stand for?

bb2b xoxox

hi BB2B TEW means The Evil Witch!! just another unpleasant name for your period as she is trully evil and a witch
ooh ooh ooh guess what...WE SOLD OUR HOUSE

MrsEI - Hooray on the house!!! Selling can be so stressful so you must be thrilled! Congrats!

Hey, I'd like some of your house sale dust, please MrsEi25! We've been trying to sell our house since the summer but the market around here is completely dead. It seemed to pick up a little just after Christmas but we've had no viewings for the past two weeks (needless to say no offers either). We really should wait until we sell before ttc, so we're only half-heartedly going for it at the moment. I'm finding it really hard - I hate the disappointment each month (especially knowing that we 'could have done better') but I also feel that at the age of 39, I can't really take any of my cycles for granted. I really want us to make a proper effort and go for it big time but DH will refuse as we haven't sold the house yet and he'll be worrying about space etc. He does have a point, I have to admit - DS is in our room in a cotbed and we're really cramped for space as it is. We'd never fit another one in!!!

Sorry for ranting and raving - I've started spotting and am fully expected AF to arrive properly tomorrow, so I'm just feeling a bit down. I'll be ok again tomorrow.

thanx BB2B and FP FP you can defo have my house selling dust
where about do you live?? the market came to a stand still around here over xmas aswell we have been on the market since august and are over the moon to have this offer as it means we dont have to pull out of our house we have our hearts set on we did have to lower the house price to get the offer but it is a means to an end IMO
xx ei xx

dont know what happened there... that was full of dust for you FP
xx ei xx

Hatty I have quite short cycles and started OPK's day 10 and got straight away Having done OPK's for the last few cycles I OV between days 9-12 I probably shouldn't tell you all that incase it encourages you to waste money Also I've read that you should BD for a few days before as the swimmers can survive up to 5 days in fertile CM and up to 48 hours after So once you know your cycle you can start the BD'in a day or two before to maximize your changes. Hope that makes sense

GG What more can I add so you are having a tough time.

Pistachio Well done in you restraint! I would have had to tell someone

Mrsei New baby new house I do hope so.

Heehee, MrsEi25! Thanks for the dust! We live in South Staffordshire in quite a nice semi-rural area where property usually sells quite well. We went on the market at the end of July and only had three viewings in total up until December, when we instructed new agents. The new agents have been good and have managed to get another five vewings for us (two of which didn't turn up) but it seems to ground to a halt again. I've checked Rightmove and made sure that our house is competitively priced and it's on the market for lower than the valuations we were given. The market in the whole area has died down - the only properties that seem to be selling are bungalows and flats. DH and I have been chatting about it tonight and I think that we'll give it until the weekend after next (when we'll be into February) and then have a chat with the agents to see if there is anything else we can do - like lowering the asking price or making it clear that we're open to offers etc.

FP we were quite lucky with the viewings and had an offer which fell through after 7 weeks of being messed about and then we had a total viewing drought until last week after we had lowered the price i know if we had stuck at our price we would still be waiting. it sucks doesnt it havin to wait!! have you got somewhere to move to?? we have got our dream house on hold and if it all goes smoothly we will be living there in this time in 2 months time i will send all of my house dust to you definitely...just give me your address and ill send the articulated lorry full to your front door lol
xx ei xx

Congrats Pistachio and MrsEi I love good news!!!

GG I can offer Gin and foot detox thingys to you to make you feel better . Not really conduicive with fertility but fun nonetheless . From the sounds of things you either have to a) admit defeat and give DH evil eye for a few days, b) trick DH into filling a container and then leg it to the hospital yourself without his knowledge (difficult logistics and would involve stealth like hand motion), c) Mrs Ei's mega idea of a home kit (if DG was here she would have defo thought of that!!, a true genius idea) or d) cry. 'd' only will work if you never usually cry unless someone dies...if like me you cry when American Idol/xfactor/lifestyle movies are on...this will not work.

Well the has turned up today...yippee...clockwork. But this time I have to try not to row with DP for the next 5 days as that is what has worked for Pistachio...so I am going to employ this strategy. This and halting all gin consumption and coffee. I have a horrid cold at the moment so I really don't feel like BDing...but hey ho its all for a good cause .

Hatty My cycles are similar lengths to yours. Do you know how long your LP is? I would suggest starting at CD13. If you don't know how long your LP is, the average is 12-14 days and the LH surge is usually the day before you ov. You can start whenever you want to, but you probably won't see anything until between 14-18 given the length of your cycles. My cycles are between 27 and 33 days and I have never had a positive before CD14. My LP is quite short though at 11 days.

Hope you are all having a good evening. .

Great news on selling your house MrsEi, it's such a hassle, I remember when we selling our place in Surrey before moving out here.
dd1's last day of summer school holidays today, before starting Gr1 tomorrow, think we'll have a quiet one, bit humid here to be rushing around.
Hi to everyone

at your use of the word summer scully lol how are you?? BTW did you see the dec 05 post-natal thread DQ did?? she was looking for us ladies and up to now i am the only person who answered her have a little look if ya fancy it
maybe she wants to have a meet up or somethin...obv we will be coming to aussie to do it
xx ei xx

i was three days late and utterly convinced i was pregnant until af came this morningfingers crossed for next month!

Hi all,

Tis a majorly (sp.?) quick post as am desparate for bed but just wanted to say hi to all and apologies for lack of posts.

Congrats (HUGE) to MissusH and Pistachio

Also to MrsEi for house selling success!

Commiserations to all those who TEW has paid a visit and sorry to hear about your dh and his lack of prioritising (again, sp.?) GG

Am in process of house move myself - found a cottage, am awaiting paperwork in order to move in! Yay! Means bd'ing has taken a serious backseat whilst lightening quick packing takes place (need to be out of current house by beginning of Feb) so far but am only cd12 so there's still time.

Also sorry to see you go Abby and Shrek - can fully understand why but shall miss you both hugely xx

Massively sorry to those I have missed/haven't mentioned - totally unintentional and will try and catch up better in a few days

Found DQ's thread MrsEI, thx, wouldn't have looked for a new thread, had only just posted on the old one, wondering where everyone was
Back to work tomorrow after a 4 day weekend, shouldn't really complain though, only working 5.5hrs and we're out for lunch for a colleague's b'day

Morning all!

Congrats pistachio so very happy for you!

Everyone seems to be on the move, good luck to all those buying, selling and moving.

GG I think bucky's idea of taking a sample at home is a good one - although with his consent!! Less embarassing for him. Would the hospital let you do that?

mibbes HCB - How's things?

Hatty Not sure how you are going to get any bd'ing done. Perhaps you could give your mum a large brandy before she goes to bed and be really quiet! Good luck

bucky Hope your cold has gone, bd'ing with a cold is horrible.

Hello mrsei25, twinking, bb2b, picknmix, scully, MTW and to anyone I've missed