TTC Thread 14 ... Santa knows what we want for Christmas

[hester]

Here we go! Thread 14 for the nicest bunch of women on Mumsnet

Thread 13 was very joyful and very painful for me, but what it has shown me is that even old warhorses like me can get lucky, so there's no excuse for all you nubile young honies not to deliver the goods! Come on now, Mama Hester expects you to do your duty by your fellow ttc-ers

Get ready now, 1 - 2 - 3, GO!!!

Hi SweetFudge, lovely to hear from you and thanks so much for the info. I have just googled anteverted uterus and found that it seems to be stunning normal i.e. most women have this whereas only about 20% have retroverted. The funny thing is, I distinctly remember at my first smear being told that it was difficult to find my cervix because it was very high (Pippa LongFanny here ) and tilted sideways because I had a tilted womb. She reassured me that pregnancy would 'sort me out' by pulling my womb into a better position.

From that, i assumed I was retroverted and therefore when I came across the on-tummy-after-sex advice (same as you got from UCLH) I thought I should try that. Last month was the first time I tried that, and I got pregnant... Now I'm thinking, OK even if my womb is totally normal, maybe my cervix is set at an angle and I should make sure it gets sperm coverage by gently rotating myself through 360% afterwards, like a pig on a spit .

All of which feels rather complicated, but I have to say SweetFudge, NOTHING compared to inseminating while being driven along in a bumpy van!! Can't your dp pull over in a layby, or is time of the essence?! Honestly, you ttc ladies may have this game ungainly and hilarious at times, but you have no idea what we inseminators ensure! I could write a book

Hi This morning fertioity friend decided that I haven't ovulated afterall, based on my temps which are like a W, up-down-up-down-up-down. So I am left feeling devestated and a fraud having felt so many symptoms I've never had yet. I'm sick of the whole thing and very low again. I hate being me right now, and sick and jealous of people who moan that they've been trying two or three months with no success.

Hi SweetFudge, me again. That (your mucus question) is a tricky one. Generally, I would say if you've got fertile mucus, it's worth giving it a go. Infuriating to go to all the effort, but maybe worse to not bother and then be kicking yourself that this may have been your lucky month?

But I think the most important question is: did you ovulate, or have any fertile mucus, earlier in the month? If you did, this is probably not a full ovulation. If you didn't, this is probably your one chance and you should go for it.

I don't think that was a very informed answer to your question (unlike your sterling reply to mine!) but hopefully someone else will have a better idea. xx

(((becki)))

sorry you're feeling down. every time i feel fed up about my irregular cycles i remind myself that i'm only very early on in this game compared to some of you.

i'm not going to go on and on because i don't think i can say anything to make you feel better. just as long as you know that we are here for you when you need us.......

Oh Becki, I know just how you feel. Today I am so angry I don't know what to do with myself; it feels like someone sitting on my chest and crushing my lungs. Sometimes I hate everyone who's been trying for under six months, everything who already has children, everyone who is under 40 years old.... Though you know, I don't really, because EVERYONE who is giving me the most support with this nightmare project falls into at least one of those categories (including the lovely ladies on this thread - except jeddah, who i can find no reason to hate ).

But the envy and the anger are a tough combination. Also the ambivalence of wanting to be around other women who are ttc, and finding their understanding invaluable, but sometimes wanting to scream, 'It's alright for you lot, chances are you'll get pregnant in time; but for me it may never happen and you can't know how that feels'.

It's another of those difficult feelings, like the ambivalence when a dear friend gets pregnant, isn't it? And very tough. I really do now how you feel, my love; huge sympathies to you, flying up from London to Liverpool right now. xxx

I'm sorry to hear you haven't ovulated yet, BeckiF. I am keeping my fingers crossed that you do and please hang in there with the rest of us. I realise it is frustrating and hard. For what it is worth, I think I missed this month's (took agnuc castus) and just read on another thread that it can mess up cycles. Thinking of you.xxxSF

Feel like that too, Hester. Thank you v. much for your post as well.

Yesterday was the first time I had fertile mucus for this cycle.

Are or have you taken agnus castus? I've just read on another good thread that it may shorten cycles even after a short time of taking the remedy. May explain why I appeared to ovulate much earlier.

If we go ahead tonight, I will try the lying on my tummy thing since it worked for you that time. It still feels futile- I am dry like kindling sticks. Also, I like your pippa longfanny image and the pig on a spit one. Lor, you make me laugh.

DH waits a while after I inseminate but since donor lives in an area of Central London where no parking is allowed without a resident's permit, usually we have to scarper pretty quick.

Sending lots of babydust your way and to all the ttcs on this thread.

SweetFudge - then I definitely think you should inseminate. Mind, my cm is so scanty and pathetic I don't pay much attention to it - and I have friends who swore they never got it either but still got pg. having said that, all the official advice is that it's very important so what do I know?

lol at the perils of central London inseminations... I always go by public transport, and think one day I'll be mugged/run over and when they open my handbag they will find.... a yogurt pot, a cervical cap and a syringe

Oh, Hester! Imagine the "I'll pretend I didn't see any of those items" faces on the tube if you accidentally spilled the contents of your bag one day! (Not that I wish it-It is stressful enough without such added extras) I jump at every noise or footfall near the van. Worry that the neighbours get suspicious and call the police or something. Nightmare vision of van doors opening and someone shining light in my face whilst legs in the air and DH crouched down between them with syringe in manner of Dr. Frankenstein with humped back.

PMSL at vision of you spreadeagled with sinister-looking man (no offence, dp) between your legs saying in quavery voice, 'But officer, we were only trying to make a baby...'

What WOULD they think? They're making a blue movie but forgot the camcorder? He's practising for his veterinary exams and his poor wife has had to stand in? He's one of those men we've heard about who's harvesting organs for an illegal trade? Anything but the truth, I bet!

Just as I am convinced that if one day my babymaking kit rolled out of my bag (in the way my tampons always seem to) they won't guess the real reason for my syringe and yogurt pot. They'll just think I'm a junkie with a yeast infection

Sweetfudge - just popped on for a lurk and saw your question - i researched cervical mucus a lot when ttc and the general opinion is that you can get fertile CM a few days before OV. When i got pg this time round i got the stretchy "egg white" mucus on the thursday night (didnt BD as DH was at work -and hadnt BDed for a week previous either) the next day i didnt really notice any mucus but BDed anyway - the result - Pregnant. So in my opinion it is definately worth inseminating tonight - good luck

Hester- I am sending big Hugs and humungous amounts of babydust to you!
Sometimes life is just not fair - no magic words of wisdom I am afraid but stay with this thread as the support obviously helps.
xx

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oops!!!!!!!!!! That is FANTASTIC news! Well done you - and I promise i don't hate you! Specially now I know you're nearly my age - I love you to bits! well, a little , but you give me so much hope - thank you. And I am thrilled for you.

Bella - thanks so much, lovey.

oops, I have to ask - how long have you been ttc? And is this your first? I'm sure you've told us this already, but between my bad temper and my excitement at your news, I can't remember

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oops, congrats, send baby dust our way please

Oops, you'll still be young and lovely compared to me!

And just think.. you're almost a contemporary of Julia Roberts (who I hear has just acquired two babies of her own).

Thanks so much for giving us oldies faith, oops, and very best of luck for a happy and healthy pregnancy xxx

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Congrats Oops - well done!
I have a feeling that this thread is very lucky indeed and the more BFPs the more luck is pread around!

Durh.........supposed to say SPREAD around!! (blush)

Thanks for your generous offer, oops, I do applaud your selflessnes. Please send your dp round to my tent, washed, oiled and ready for action, any time at all .

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oops - many congrats!

Oops--so happy for you.

Miaou--You were away from MN because you were busy setting up your business??? Now my guess is that you were busy doing other things. Congratulations!