Post Pill Party – The Garden Soiree

[TheHotelCalifornia]

Tables laden with high-end afternoon tea, beautiful bouquets of fresh flowers, and a string quartet playing softly in the background…it’s the Post Pill Party Garden Soiree! The girls have swapped their checked shirts for pastel dresses and it’s time to sit back and relax after a stressful few weeks (months…years!!)

Welcome to the 10th (!) post pill party thread for women who have recently come off the pill. Whether you’re struggling with an insanely long cycle or an insanely short cycle, your luteal phase is crazy short, your temps are all over the place, or you’re just feeling like if you see one more day of a damn flashing smiley you’re going to throw it out the window…we’re here for you. Perch yourself daintily in a chair and join us!

Ladies already at the soiree:

@juno231
@Kay00
@Moocher90
@Emmgrem
@Nellieee
@TheHotelCalifornia
@ams19
@chinchilly
@sperr
@crabette
@LauraT94
@TheDaydreamBelivers
@cams50
@robyn101
@abi555
@tillybabs
@MissC07
@minipilling
@glow92
@FlyingGiraffe
@Elsie2021
@Gracie2021
@Flowers222
@MancMama39
@firsttimemumm321
@mrsmacmc
@MintGreenLife
@Ttcin2021
@Melissaq94
@AllyCat31

Please tag anyone I’ve missed!

@kay00 have you tested? Sounds positive to me but then I'm TTC damaged lol. I'd call it spotting until you get full flow!

@Juno231 I tested yesterday mid morning (2mu) and BFN on FRER, so i'm pretty sure i'm not pregnant. I was more than happy with being CD3 but my bleeding is just sooooo light and my temp hasn't plummeted yet.

Interesting if it is just spotting, I have never thought i produced a lot of progesterone as my temps never get super high and the private test I took at 6DPO was borderline. Perhaps I have LP defect?

@Kay00 it can also be a sign of things like endo - which is often linked to other autoimmune disorders if you have any?

@Juno231 yes, endo has crossed my mind before, esp. due to the long heavy period I has last cycle. Plus I remember my periods being v. painful before I went on the pill. Hopefully they will detect any endo when I get further tests at the fertility clinic.

I just went to the loo (certain I had started full flow period) but it was just a little pink tinged CM. Odd. Maybe I just got a mini period this month? Maybe It hasn't started yet?

I have cross hairs!

@Kay00 that is really odd! Whacky bodies are whacky v frustrating

Congrats @TheDaydreamBelievers. Now the waiting commences!

@Kay00 the fact that your temps are still fairly high.... would that indicate you’re still in your Lp?

Morning ladies! 👋😊

@Kay00 Personally I would stop the soy until your temp has dropped or the full flow starts. With my chemical at the end of Jan I logged days of bright red bleeding as well as darker spotting, pale pink and thicker brown discharge (sorry tmi) I thought it was my period because it lasted like 8 days but after the spotting stopped for a couple of days (13/14dpo) I noticed my temperature was still high so I took the test on 16dpo and it had a line. I took agnus castus when I didn't realise, thinking I was at the start of my new cycle so I always err on the side of caution now until I know for sure! It's annoying as it's made me get my hopes up the last couple of cycles when Ive had pre AF spotting! I hope you're out of limbo-land soon lovely!

@ChinChilly @Moocher90 I was going to ask you both about thyroid levels. My blood results came back with a tsh of 4.96 but t4 was normal. The doctor has said she doesn't see it being an issue and will repeat the test in 3 months time. Did you have a similar response? I'm worried it may mean problems conceiving 😖

I also had a weird liver enzyme result which the doctor thinks may be due to one of my vitamins. Having spoken to a pharmacist friend she said that Biotin can raise liver enzymes if taken in excess, and I looked and was taking 100% of the recommended amount in the seven seas, and 100% in the busy bee b complex...i know you've been taking this @kay00 and @Cams50 so just wanted to warn you! I've had one alcoholic drink all year so it cant be that! 😂

@TheDaydreamBelievers congrats on the cross hairs! 🙌

@TheDaydreamBelievers Yey!! Hopefully this is Ov for you.

@Gracie2021 My high temp certainly threw me this morning!

@FlyingGiraffe Hmmm... OK. I think those are wise words. Maybe I'll hold off on the Soy unless I get an obvious full flow. I just had a bit of a poke around up there and my cervix is low, firm and closed and CM is wet to creamy, definitely no blood . If it turns out that I had a mini period then I will just have a cycle without Soy... its not the end of the world!

Interesting about the Biotin! Luckily I had liver tests done recently and all is fine, but I'll go through and check all my vitamins on lunch.

@Kay00 although endo can only be checked for with a laparoscopy so if you suspect you could have it you'll need to push for it as I think most clinics don't hand them out they way they have with me!

@TheDaydreamBelievers and so the wait begins...

Anyone else feel nausea just before their AF?? I hate it! I begrudge feeling nausea with no pregnancy eughhh

@Juno231 OK, i'll talk with them about it in my appointment. I guess if i'm paying private they might be more willing let me take the extra tests? I'm slowly reading through the 'First Fertility Appointment Tomorrow' thread (i'm on page 11), it has been such a valuable resource so far!

@Kay00 I’m going to look for that thread! I’ve got my first appointment next month

@Tillybabs ooh what date? Mine is on 6th May, the day I get back from my mini getaway in Cornwall

@Kay00 mine is 21 May! Good luck at yours and look forward to hearing all about it

@FlyingGiraffe mine came back in November as 4.4 then in Feb 4.1 my GP also said she doesn’t see it as a problem and TSH is individual so what is normal for me might not be for someone else! I dunno it seems like an odd topic with quite abit ot conflicting info. I also asked if my TSH had anything to do with my chemicals and she said no so I’m not sure, 2 different GPs have told me the same thing now so I’m just bothering to even ask anymore!

I’ve got my day 21 bloods booked for 4th of May but apart from that there’s nothing going on over here!

Oh and I spent 6 hours in the hairdressers on Monday getting my hair sorted and I’ve joined the gym today, going this evening with OH to try and keep my mind occupied

@FlyingGiraffe thank you! I hadn’t realised that. I was a bit worried about generally overdoing the vitamins so I was planning to swap from pregnacare to seven seas as the numbers in that are generally smaller in most things but I need to rethink it. What are you going to do? Will you stop taking the seven seas? My TSH was a bit raised too but they didn’t seem concerned either. Has to be pill related as everyone of us seems to have that!!

@Kay00 hmm the spotting/AF debacle gets me every month. My GP said the first day of bleeding should be marked as CD1 but there’s a lot of conflicting info. Something I read essentially said if it’s around AF then it’s AF but if it’s more mid cycle then it’s spotting. Hopefully this is more implantation related!! I’ve also wondered if I might have endo as I have long periods but they’re not that painful. So maybe just a progesterone problem.

@ChinChilly fair play on joining the gym! I am trying to go on a health kick too but I’m not doing too great 😂

@FlyingGiraffe liver enzymes can also just be randomly out for things like minor infection. One of mine was out then when they retested was completely normal!

Yea, in the words of jon snow, now my watch begins! To be honest we had sex once after approval to TTC before ovulation so it would be an unlikely miracle if I conceived!

@FlyingGiraffe I’m now medicated and I’m only subclinical but I had lots of symptoms and also I got hashimotos which is the autoimmune version of hypothyroid. Mine has gradually gone up my last result was 4.99 but had bloods done at beginning of month but haven’t had my results back yet and also a thyroid ultrasound.

I spoke to my gp who referred me to an endocrinologist as I was not happy with his blanket response that my tsh was normal but normal for TTC should be under 2.5. Hashimotos has a higher risk of miscarriage and thyroid issues in my family so I guess it’s just a case by case basis.

I got a flashing smiley today on cb today and I’m CD12 so I’m hoping I ovulate soon as my last cycle was 27 days but day 27 I was spotting.

@Kay00 I'm glad your liver test was fine. It might just affect me more. Drugs seem to affect me more than most so maybe vitamins are the same! 😂

@TheDaydreamBelievers that's good to know! I'm hoping it was a one off but I've cut out the busy bee complex for now anyway. I was hoping it would help my luteal phase length but I've taken it for 2 cycles and it hasn't changed much. It still does whatever the hell it wants each month! 🤪 Fingers crossed that the one time hit lucky for you this month!

@Cams50 I've cut out the b complex but kept the seven seas and vitamin d. I think I'm going to stop the agnus castus too now as I want to see what happens with my next bloods without things maybe affecting the results. Where are you in your cycle at the moment? Have you been referred? The doctor said shes sent off our referral now. Feels real now!

@ChinChilly 6 hours in the hairdressers sounds long! 💇‍♀️ did you have a big change? I had mine cut a few weeks ago (Welsh hairdressers were open earlier!) but I'm booked in for a colour next month. I'm looking forward to having it a bit lighter again for summer! Well done on joining the gym! I've been making sure I do over 10k steps a day this week and its definitely making me feel better about getting into some 'normal' clothes after wearing a uniform/pjs/loungewear on repeat for the last God knows how long! 😂

@flyinggiraffe High Five from a fellow Welsh lady 😁

@cams50 yes, I certainly thought it was AF, albeit earlier than usual. Its just not turned into full flow yet and my temp is still quite high. I wonder if maybe I over did it on my long walk on Sat and eroded a bit of my fanjo 😆

@FlyingGiraffe one of my liver levels was off the chart then 3 weeks later it was normal again, my GP said they can just have blips.
As for the hairdressers I haven’t had it touched for 3 years so I had a full head of a highlights and a cut, it took so long because I seem to have loads of hair it’s not thick but there is just lots of it!

First gym session done! I didn’t realise how unfit I was 🥵 I used to be a real gym bunny so I’m going to try get back into it properly.

@ChinChilly Well done for the gym!! Me and my OH joined one too and were supposed to go this eve, but he said he couldn't be bothered and 'we'll start Monday' so I'm now sitting here with a G&T 🙈

Hope everyone is doing ok and looking forward to the weekend! I've somehow managed to get a last min table at a wine bar in London on Sat eve so now I'm panicking what to wear and done a big asos order! Everything I've been wearing the last 4 months is loungewear 😂😂

@Moocher90 That's what my GP said it indicated- that it was subclinical hypothyroidism. Eek. I dont have any symptoms though really so I guess that's a good thing. Maybe I'll go back to her and see whether anything can be looked at further/sooner. Brilliant you got the flashing smiley today! I am CD11 and got my flashing smiley yesterday and today. DH is tired tonight so going to have to hope he's up to it tomorrow!😂

@Kay00 I'm not actually a Welshie 🙊 but DH is so luckily I get to live in this beautiful part of the world now! 🥰

@ChinChilly Welldone on the gym session! That's good to know that your liver result was a blip. Fingers crossed mine is the same! I have the same thing with lots of fine hair! They always have to go and get more dye and always underestimate how long it's going to take them! I try to warn them now! Bet you feel like a new woman!

@FlyingGiraffe I had two better LPs so I thought the b vitamins had worked but then this one was super short so who knows! Have you been referred to the fertility specialist? Hope you ovulate soon! Sounds like it’s around the corner! I’m CD6 of AF so nothing to report here. DH has to have his semen analysis done again so I’m hoping we’ll be referred after that’s done! That’s booked for the end of the month.

@Kay00 eroded fanjo 😂🙊 hope it’s not AF 🤞🏻

Morning ladies, @FlyingGiraffe hehe, well your baby will be Welsh, so that makes you an honorary Welsh lady

@Cams50 I think it was a mid-LP spotting event as I didn't spot yesterday at all, i'm 13DPO today, AF is due tomorrow and i'm getting AF cramps now, so I guess she'll show up today/tomorrow. At least that gives me a more decent LP length!