TTC 35+ Thread 7

[sickofthisyear]

New thread- apologies for the unimaginative title!

I’m just catching up on everything.
I have ovulation pain and then I’m pretty sure I ovulate because a day or so after CM changes.

@Lexber these are mine this is mine

Trying again it didn’t seem to post before

Well since my photo I've had a massive bleed/clot (sorry tmi) 😩 my body hates me! Feeling shitty as, my back aches, stomach feels yucky and I feel generally down and fed up of it all.
Sorry to bring the thread down esp being so new, I feel like all I talk about is bleeding?!

I'm going to ring the drs tomorrow to enquire about tranexamic acid I think it is? As I feel wiped out and I'm now on day 12 of bleeding - it seemed to drop off then wham! And I've seen a. Few posts when I've searched mentioning that helped lots.

My apps both seem to be showing ov around 24th, so will be interesting to see if it matches up but thats with my bleeding starting on 10th from removal.

Roll on normality xx

@Kitekat81 I'm a terrible sleeper, move a lot, wake up lots, sometimes get up, so I don't feel it's worth temping, I feel that will be just too in effect and stressful for me

We'll try again tonight, different positions & OH said hips were killing from his first jog in a year yesterday, so didn't want to move much which is probably why he couldn't finish lol. He's done some stretching and aches less now lol. Will then dtd tue & Thurs (cd20), just to cover all bases & keep opk-ing.

@Marvellouslymadmum they worked well for my friend and bunch of others so thought worth a shot as a fraction of the price as the clear blue, but if not successful this cycle will definitely try clear blue next!

I'm getting a few v mild cramps again just now. No idea if ovulation related!! Guess at least if I don't get a peak, or any cm, I'll have no idea how many dpo I am so least likely to symptom spot or poas 🤣

@Twelvestars

Thank you for the article link, really interesting read.

'Rarely mentioned is the source of the data: French birth records from 1670 to 1830.'

🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ No wonder we are all stressed about facts and figures!

Omg at last I've finally got a bit of ewcm! Cd16, tho another v small bright red dot

Do we think I'll probably ov tomorrow or tue? Mild left side possible ovary pains

Guess push OH to dtd tonight, tomorrow and tues?

@climbershell I would go for it. I always get cramps ewcm and usually a day or two after cm changes.

@Katiekattty I've read up on my spotting, and I think it's likely ovulation spotting, which is rare (5%), never had it before, but timing is right. Especially with left ovary pain.

So dtd tonight, think no point from tomorrow

That will mean dtd cd8,10, 12,14,16 prob ov 16. So that all sounds fairly good (tho would have dtd yesterday too without silly opk!!)

@02Carol right! It was truly eye opening for me as well. So I really love to share this article around because it negates a lot of false information and outdated statistics and it promotes more recent studies that offer a more realistically positive outlook.

@Lexber sorry you’re bleeding again. I thought based on your earlier comments that you’re done with it. It’s good you’re seeking medical advice. I’m sure they’ll give you some reassurance and probably meds to stop the bleeding. I wish I had any idea about coils and coil removal to offer any advice or support. But I hope this will be sorted soon 🤞🏻

@Twelvestars so did I...! But the last one was worst than ever so def time to ask for help as it's starting to get me down. I was so excited to start our journey and my OH even got excited last night, to the point he proudly declared "that's the one, I've got a feeling first time lucky" 🤣🤣🤣 oh if only he knew what we all know... 😜🤣

It's so frustrating oh well, there's plenty of time yet! And I like even numbers so a 2022 baby would work for me...🤣🤣

@Lexber bless him! It helps when our men are positive and upbeat about it. I can imagine it’s putting you down but fingers crossed there’s always a solution to most problems so it’s just a matter of time. It’s hard I know when we’re all feeling like time is flying by but hopefully it will happen for you and all of us in good time.

@Twelvestars great article! Thanks for sharing! X

@Lexber so sorry you’re having such a rough time of it! You go ahead and talk about bleeding all you like! 💖 I remember after I had a D&C, the following week I passed a huge clot, it was just awful!! Sounds like a great idea for you to ask for help now. If nothing else, it sounds like it’s starting to affect your day to day life and that’s no way to be. Let us know how you get on with the GP x

Premom App advice needed... it’s the first time I’ve used this app and am using the tests function to take pictures of my ovulation tests. But does it work better if you use the premom or easy at home ovulation tests? Reason I ask.. I’m taking photos of my ‘other brand’ tests and the results seem to be all over the show! On one picture the reading will be low, if I take another photo of the same test it says it’s high with a completely different ratio figure?! So I can essentially just keep taking a photo of the same test until I get a result I feel happy with 😂 So confused 🤷🏻‍♀️

Thanks @Farfaraway1 ❤️
Just spoke to the dr, she is hopeful this is just a bad reaction and withdrawal after 9 years and even the possibility my period has joined in too... I have a prescription for some of the stuff to help the bleeding (can't remember the name!) so hopefully will sort itself out xx

Hey folks,

Quickly popping in to link this really useful and POSITIVE and - most excitingly - RECENT (compared to what’s normally cited...I SEE YOU 1700’S FRANCE!) study shared on another thread. Now, this is a very academic and dry long read, but the most important thing to focus on is what they found out. In a study of 346 women (pretty decent size group), ranging in age from 20-something to 44, they found that age (alone) had NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT on the chances of becoming pregnant.

Grab a cup of tea and enjoy a long read: academic.oup.com/humrep/article/18/9/1959/708200

Few things I took away from this:

1 - Age is not as big of a deal as we have been made to think. It has been ASSUMED to impact fertility, but no-one has actually bothered checking.
2 - They use one year of TTC as a base level, so if you aren’t at that point yet - try and not stress yourself out.
3 - If you are over a year you can and should get fertility investigations done and any doctor that won’t refer you due to age is not acting professionally.
4 - It doesn’t detail pregnancy outcomes, so as a 42 year old, I’m steeling myself for nature to potentially make a decision or two on any further pregnancy outcomes until we find the perfect egg. (I had an early MC in December, was sad but ‘fine’ as no worse than my already awful periods).

I know i sound like a broken record sometimes, but this TTC malarkey is just a roulette wheel and we are spinning every month to get that one good egg. It can happen for everyone, and if it doesn’t you still have ways of becoming a parent.

On another thread a fertility clinic (COUGH - TRYING TO FLOG IVF- COUGH) told a 41 year old woman that her chances of conceiving were under 1% a month....BALLS. It’s nearer 20% but nature will filter out the unviables.

It’s essential to remember that the medical profession still doesn’t even use women’s bodies as a standard in textbooks, so why would they bother investigating ‘women’s issues’ like babies?!

Anyway, that’s my vent for the day! I’m totally snowed under with work and utterly incapable of keeping up, BUT I am lurking and sending lots of love to all here. Welcome newbies! xxxx

GAWD this subject gets me so angry. I swear I’m not actually an angry person. Just those statistics make me SO BLOODY FURIOUS.

@Twelvestars That article is awesome! Thank you for sharing xxx

@Geriatric1234

Couldn't agree more, the stress and pressure these 'facts and statistics' cause!!
I didn't expect TTC would also make me so mad!

I have officially started my 2ww! 🥴 Que daily googling and gradual loss of my mind. Anyone else at this point in their cycle?

I had actually read about the 'fertility dropping off a cliff at 35' stuff being based on French medieval peasants (Ok bit later than medieval). I think it's awful that this isn't more well-known - thanks fir the link @Geriatric1234, will have a read. I have also read that those with fertility issues in their mid-30s onwards would probably have had the same issues 10 years previous with the same partners etc. I just wish that 'science' would bother to do more research on women's issues.

Even the stats flying around about how you're more likely to have blood clots on the pill than with the covid jabs, but no one ever focuses on the former. And when all that stuff came out about how there's no need to have withdrawal bleeds on the pill but some male scientists decided to advise it.

Does make my blood boil.

I'm also snowed under @Geriatric1234 but will have a read in a nice relaxing bath later ❤️

Ooh good luck @02Carol, I've opk this morning and it's rising still even though I have other issues so who knows, I may actually stop bleeding (reduced again but I'm not falling for that again lol) AND ovulate... we dtd when I had a break and I've prewarned him the minute I can, I am... and that's without TTC 🤣🤣🤣

Hopefully my joining you on the TWW in a few days?!? I have no expectations of anything this month so far, I'm not even in cycle 1 yet technically 🤣🤣 I'm just eager to get going...

Unable to keep up but just read your post @Geriatric1234 (thank you!!) and am going to search back and find yours @Twelvestars! 😂
Love the positivity thank you. Think as restrictions ease and we have other things to focus on in life it will help all of us too! Xx

@Geriatric1234 and thanks to you for this study! I happen to have a taste for these overly dry and academic studies so will give it a good read. But your summary of take away points was helpful and reassuring!

@Misty84 the article I shared goes hand in hand with the study @Geriatric1234 shared.

Here is the article just in case some of you missed it:

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2013/07/how-long-can-you-wait-to-have-a-baby/309374/?single_page=true

Sorry, unable to keep up, but cd17 and finally a reading on opk! Wow, what a surprise!

The first strip that Prenom actually read automatically, says 0.48 low. But an actual line finally!! Will keep dtd every other day for a bit longer

🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼@climbershell