Feb Bus 2021 - no more TRYING to conceive, let's blimin do this!

[BubsNumber2inTheMaking]

Here we go again girls! 💕 Wishing you all so much baby dust for this cycle! 👶🏼
CD4 for me today, cycle #60000000 at least. 🤦🏼‍♀️ TTC bubs #2 since Jan 2020.
2 miscarriages, umpteen national lockdowns, at least a stone heavier 🙄 Let's do this 💪❤️

@MiniBaker Two thankfully! Looking forward to a break and time to spend with DP.

That is fantastic and super speedy! So glad it has progressed quickly. Is your DP going for any tests or just you? Hope you get on well... please let me know 😊. £300 isn’t too bad at all! How did you decide on a specific clinic? Was there much choice by you/are you having to travel far?

£5000 is a lot but equally I completely agree! Another year feels like an eternity doesn’t it 😔. Will the tests you’re having show if you’re viable for IVF then? Sorry lots of questions I’m just genuinely so intrigued!

Glad the acupuncture is working in terms of your AF! Really hoping you’re one of many people who gets pregnant when they start all the fertility procedures 😊.

Yeah just no symptoms in general either way. I have no pregnancy tests in and have said to myself I’m not testing until I’m late- whatever month that may or may not be. Not sure if you feel the same but the disappointment of AF turning up is actually less than another negative pregnancy test xxx

@sunshineandshowers3
Ahh that’s amazing 🤩 yeah I hope it gives you a nice amount of time to relax and unwind. One week just flies by doesn’t it!

He’s not going for any tests as he already did the SA in November and he has really good quality sperm...so it’s definitely me!

I’m having to travel to Manchester which is about an hour away but I did a bit of research and this one seemed to have the best reviews and seemed to offer the most different tests and things.

Yeah the tests are basically looking at how many eggs I’ve got and the quality of them
I think? But to be honest I’m not 100% sure what else exactly but guess I’ll ask tomorrow for more info. It’s not looking at my Fallopian tubes and don’t think this will look for Endometriosis - which are other tests you can have done but I may be wrong but as long as you’ve got decent eggs - I think you qualify for IVF? Fingers crossed mine are alright 🤞

Oh completely with you - I tested the first two months of TTC but found it so much worse getting a BFN than just having AF show up. I usually get one spot that pops up like a week before AF arrives and tbh that’s my sign that I’m out as it’s like clockwork 😂

Have you tried taking evening primrose oil? Some people have recommended it to me to
Improve EWCM so I’ve started taking it this cycle. Haha I literally seem to try something new every month😂

Xxx

@MiniBaker glad things are going forward for you and I have all my fingers crossed that all is well and even more so like @sunshineandshowers3 said that you conceive naturally now you've started the whole progress.

Completely agree with the whole no testing thing too. I tested the first 3 months but I couldn't bring myself to do it after then as it was worth than AF arriving. It's like the BFN takes your hope away if that makes sense. AF is fact.

@MiniBaker Yeah I’m never sure with men, like if their sperm count is fine, is that pretty much it? Why are so much more complicated 🤦‍♀️.

Sounds like you’ve done the right research finding the best clinic! 😊 How did the tests go? Did they put you at ease? Hope so. It’s all so daunting and such a minefield!

Yeah I just don’t buy pregnancy tests anymore to avoid temptation. I buy ovulation tests but not pregnancy ones.

Not primrose oil yet but let me know if it helps and I may do next cycle! 😊 still sticking religiously to grapefruit juice (it’s clearly not helping but what the heck 🤦‍♀️).

Definitely feel like AF will be here in the next few days. Been enjoying wine in the garden and trying to relax.

Where the tests uncomfortable at all? Xxx

@sunshineandshowers3
Yeah I don’t know really 🤷‍♀️ I think pretty much if their sperms fine that’s it 😂

Tests went well! She did the scan and showed it all to me there and then on the screen - everything looked fine and I had a really healthy follicle count 13 on one side and 14 on the other, so that suggests I’ve got plenty of eggs left and I’ve not got PCOS. It was reassuring to see on the screen that it all looks normal and it wasn’t uncomfortable at all. Would recommend if you wanted peace of mind.

I don’t get the blood tests results for a couple weeks when we have the Zoom with the doctor so will see what she says but I think it’s probably stress that’s not helping me conceive... as everything obvious seems to be fine... I just need to chill out 😂 glad you’re enjoying the sunshine and it’s timed perfectly for your time off! Maybe luck is on your side this month 🍀 👶 has your OH got any time off with you?

What is making you think AF is on her way?
Xxx

Coincidentally my DP got the call about his SA today. Sod’s law it’s the day I’m meant to ovulate next month 🙈😂. Literally why?!? How long did you have to abstain from sex before your partner had his?

Great news about the follicle count 👍🏻😊 really happy for you that it was strong. Remind me, you started your period quite young like me didn’t you? That’s reassured me a little as I always worry I’ve used my good eggs up 🙈.

Stress seems to be one of the main causes it really does. I know alcohol relaxes me and I’ve never been a big drinker so going to have 1/2 glasses a week in the hope of feeling more chilled! He’s got the 4 day weekend and then might take a bit more time off. Both of our birthdays are coming up (my 29th). Worked out like a crazy woman that id have to conceive by July if I was to become a Mum before I’m 30. I need to get out more, don’t I? 🤦‍♀️🤪

Just boobs as they always are before my period and just that feeling that you can’t put your finger on and yet you know it’s there 😔 xxx

@MiniBaker Also with the follicle count do you need to book the scan in at a particular time during your cycle or does it not matter? Apologies for all the questions! clearly I think you’ve become the oracle of such things! 😋xx

@sunshineandshowers3
Wow really? That’s annoying - so does he have to book a specific appointment that far in advance?
It said in the pack at least 48 hours but no more than 5 days... to be honest his was just under 48 hours but I don’t think it mattered too much.

Yeah I started in primary school so was worried but she said it’s pretty much the ideal amount. A few glasses a week can’t hurt at all and it will definitely balance you out by feeling more chilled. I’ve literally not drank for over a year now and it’s not made a difference, clearly! But now it’s been so long I’ve just completely lost the taste for it ... sure it will come back once we’re out and about again 😂

Are you doing anything nice for your birthdays? Ahh I’m always working out the dates of things don’t worry you’re not alone there!

Yeah I know what you mean exactly. Actually, you can have the scan anytime in your cycle along with the blood test. Haha I’m on another thread that has some super-oracles on so I feel like I’m learning so much! xx

It’s the NHS one so they (finally) rang him and gave him that date. It’s also fallen on his birthday too 🙈 the poor thing! We’ll leave it 48 hours minimum then and hopefully I’ll still stand a chance at month!

Glad to hear it 👍🏻😊 how long does the scan take? I know what you mean- the longer you leave it the taste just then feels weird.

Probably just have a few family members in the garden if the weather holds up. Not much else really. We’re not huge birthday people but as long as cake and a small glass of fizz are involved then I’m happy 😀.

Ah great so none of the scans/blood tests are cycle dependent? That’s good to know! Did you have the endometrial thickness scan? I’ve read the lining has to be at least 7mm for successful implantation. SO many factors!

Haha you’re good keeping up on multiple threads...I just about manage this one! xxx

That’s interesting as it’s really different in our area - we rang GP who gave us the pack and then DH rang the hospital a few days before to book a time slot to drop it off but he could have picked any time slot really - so he picked a convenient one for him. Guess they have a corona backlog now though...
How is he feeling about it?

Really quick just 10 - 15 minutes - she took lots of measurements including the endometrial lining - which was really thin (1.5mm) but I had just finished AF so she said it was what she would expect it to be - showing it’s shedding properly. Interesting to know it has to be 7mm - definitely could be a factor for me as I do have such light periods (without acupuncture). Probably a combination of small things I reckon... do you think you would consider getting a scan?

I don’t know if it’s a good thing as I probably spend too much time obsessing! But I wanted to be on one with more people who had been trying for longer than me to see what their next steps were if you know what I mean xx

@sunshineandshowers3 sorry forgot to tag you 😂

That’s so different to what DP has been told. He honestly feels absolutely fine about it. He’s very practical, sees it as something that needs to be done and therefore will do it.

My periods are so light so that’s definitely playing on my mind as a possibility.

Have people on the other threads looked into scans about the same time as us? I have had a very weird cycle this month! Ovulated on day 14 (usually CD11) and then my AF started last night (two days late). Another month of hope and disappointment gone and I think I can officially say goodbye to the idea of a 2021 baby 😔.

Have found a clinic in my area so going to give them a ring today and try and take some control. How’re you? Hope you had a nice Easter weekend and ate all the chocolate! ❤️Xxx

@MiniBaker Antral Follice Count Scan booked for Thursday 👍🏻🤞👍🏻 xxx

@sunshineandshowers3

So glad you’ve taken control and got something booked - it’s definitely worth it for the reassurance!

Yes - the thread is full of people who are 12 months + and looking at IVF and scans etc so it’s really interesting reading about their journeys and what they do next.

It’s sooo disappointing when your period is a couple days late it’s absolute torture isn’t it. Did you do any tests?

With regards to the light periods, I’ve been back to acupuncture this month and I told him my period was much heavier again after having acupuncture which I thought was good and was pretty happy... But he said that 2 days of heavy bleeding is improvement but really it’s not enough for really healthy eggs and thick lining and it needs to be 3-5 days of heavy bleeding. So he’s sticking a few more needles in to increase the blood flow. So I definitely think you’re on to something with the light periods.

The acupuncture is a accumulative so the more months you have it builds it up more and more and I they recommend 3 months to see best effects.

Do you regularly have cold hands and feet?

Had a great weekend with my mum visiting for the weekend so feeling nice and relaxed. How’s your Easter holidays going? Hope you enjoyed a few wines 🍷😊☀️

@sunshineandshowers3
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/4195697-ttc-for-what-feels-like-an-eternity-then-you-ve-found-your-bus-no-fertile-unicorns-here-only-infertile-donkeys

This is the other thread I’m on if you’re interested xx

Me too- she said the follicle count scan will be the most beneficial to get done so hoping that’s positive like yours was 😊🤞.

May pop a comment on that thread too then - thanks ❤️.

Didn’t do any tests this month which I’m glad of now obviously. I have two clear blue ones in my drawer but have vowed I’ll only take one if I’m 5+ days late. Let’s see how long that willpower lasts eh? 😂🙈 this cycle has felt so different though. Never ovulated as late as CD14. Will use OPKs this month and pre-seed but haven’t got anything else in to use.

3-5 days of heavy bleeding? Gosh that is quite far from where I’m at now. Do you know what constitutes ‘heavy’? I wonder if people’s thresholds are different 🤷‍♀️.

Not really in terms of cold hands and feet. Do you?

Ah sounds lovely 🌞 the weather certainly helped! It was my birthday so had a couple of people round in the garden, and yes, a few weeks wines 🙊.

Where are you in your cycle? Only good thing about period coming late is that hopefully I won’t be able to ovulating when DP goes for his SA. Trying to think of the positives 😧xx

@sunshineandshowers3
I’m sure it will be as really it’s about age isn’t it - and you’re young and healthy and have regular cycles so it’s probably going to come out normal but it’s nice to get that reassurance.

Haha that is good! 5 days is a good amount to wait. Hopefully the time you wait that long is the time you get your positive.

Well for me (without acupuncture) I get 2 days of heavier bleeding - and sorry for TMI but those two heavier days still don’t really max out a ‘normal’ tampon in like 4 hours and I could do with a lighter than normal one really as it can be uncomfortable removing it because my flow has not been enough. But when I have acupuncture my two heavy days are like almost over-filling a ‘normal’ tampon every couple hours and a lot more clots. So that’s the difference for me... the other days in my cycle don’t even need tampon and just an everyday liner would do as it’s more like inbetween spotting and a period.

Yes I have really cold hands and feet most of the time which apparently is another sign of poor circulation- which in acupuncture they call ‘blood deficiency’ - which my acupuncturist says is what I have. So basically my blood flow enough to the places it needs to.

It was amazing weather wasn’t it! Glad you had a nice time celebrating - Happy 29th Birthday to you 🥳

I’m just at the start of the fertile week but did a CB digital ovulation test and no smiley today just regular ⭕️ so will keep doing those for the next few days...

That is good that he won’t be have his SA on your ovulation day. It’s frustrating when these things get in the way. For your follicle ultrasound will they discuss it with you there and then or do you have a follow up appointment?

Xx

Back from the scan. She said I have 6 follicles on one side and 7 on the other. She said it was normal but I’m thinking it’s on the lower side. @MiniBaker yours was much higher if I remember correctly?

I’ve been researching and it says between 8-15 is an acceptable/normal amount. Not sure if that is combined or just from one ovary though? Feeling a bit worried about it all. She said everything she saw with the scan was completely fine and that my endometrial lining was nice and thick but now very worried about the AFC!

Also the lady taking my ultrasound said short and light periods aren’t a problem at all. She said she thinks mine is either a) stress or b) slightly short luteal phase. She said I’ve got to track it for another 3 months xx

@sunshineandshowers3 that’s great news that she said it’s normal and your lining is thick - mine was pretty thin but it was on CD4 - maybe it’s depends what time of the month to how many follicles you have? Yes I had 13 on one side and 14 on the other... I’m not 100% sure from googling but I remember her saying it was a good amount and I asked about PCOS (which is when you have too many) and she said it wasn’t high enough for that but it was the nurse not the Doctor. It may be worth asking on the other group? Did you have a blood test for your AMH too?

I’ve got my follow up with the Doctor next Thursday so I will ask a bit more about AFC and see what they say as Dr Google can be so confusing 🤦‍♀️ Xx

I was CD3 when she did the scan...it’s so confusing isn’t it?! She didn’t mention anything at all about my follicle count being low, but from looking online it appears to be (for my age at least). Didn’t have a blood test...did you? And if so, did you have your results back yet? She did notice an ovarian cyst on my left ovary...which she didn’t seem too concerned about and said it should go by itself. Never had one before though (that I know of).

How’re you doing? Have you ovulated this cycle yet? My partner has his SA tomorrow so glad that’s finally being looked into! xxx

Forgot to tag....oops @MiniBaker hope you’re well!

I'm currently cd22 of a cycle of unknown length. Last cycle was 24 days which is usual for me but the 3 or 4 before that ranged from 24 to 30!!
No symptoms just a bit emotional really, doesn't feel any different to normal. Hope you are all well x

@sunshineandshowers3

So very similar cycle time to me! From reading on the other group it sounds like 15 total is the norm but a bit lower or higher is fine. I think yours sounds normal? Mine’s really quite high I think as 27 is nearly double the normal amount... I also had a little cyst but she didn’t seem too concerned either. Yes I had an AMH blood test - results are due back Thursday and got a consultation with the Doctor via Zoom so will pin down what the follicle count means... good news the SA is here 🎉

Did you manage to DTD around ovulation this cycle? My clear blue OPKs suggested I ovulated last Thursday so we’ll see. I’m a bit distracted as I’ve got quite a lot on with work at the moment so not given it my full attention which hoping is a good thing! x

@PeanuttyButter 😬 right in the core of the TWW. Hope you’re doing okay. Completely with you with the emotions - my emotions literally go up and down so many times within a day 🍀 sending luck your way xx