Soy Isoflavones

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Just wondered if anyone else with long cycles has tried these? My cycles can range anywhere from 33-45 days and I've read a lot of positive things about these helping shorten cycles. I've just ordered some to try next cycle if AF ever shows up 🙄

@RoseP123 yes definitely, I think its such a worrying time because you don't know and you can't control it. If its only your first or second month tracking, you might have have had an odd cycle and your luteal phase might be fine :)

Is anyone feeling unwell on their soy? I'm taking it at night, for two nights so far, and feeling quite sick and woozy and generally yucky today. Might be a coincidence, but wondering if it could be the soy

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 yeah that is true, I will see when AF comes this time around. If it was the same length cycle as last time then AF will be here Saturday. Currently have sore boobs, not sure if this is AF or not so I am not holding my breath.

Hi ladies, @A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 thanks for the advice re. inflammation

To help elongate my LP I used a B-Complex (with high levels of B12 and B6), I extended it from 8 days to 14 days!

I am trying Soy again this cycle (despite not ovulating for the past two cycles) as I just hope that I have my inflammation under control (through diet) that my body will produce an egg again haha. I took 150, 200, 200, 200, 200 CD3-7 (well, maybe CD4-8 if you count my first day of very very light spotting).

Good luck to you all!

Hi Kay, thank you, that's an impressive lengthening! how much B12 and B6 are you taking to lengthen luteal phase? I just checked my multivitamin and its 1000% B12 and 714% B6, but not sure if its enough.

I think its definitely the soy making me feel bad, I was so nauseous all of yesterday, headache, slightly blurry eyes. I couldn't face upping my dose last night in case it made me vomit so just took 100mg again. Feeling pretty yucky and not with it today also. Will up it again 150mg tonight, and attempt 200mg on the last dose, but feeling a bit nervous.

Better bloody work after making me feel so awful 🤣

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 I found I had really bad headaches both times I took soy and generally felt a bit crappy. Took them before bed to try and reduce the side effects, on the plus side though I felt totally normal a couple of days after stopping!

Thanks Riverskye, sorry you felt crappy also. How are things going? I read through the thread and saw you had positive sounding updates end of last month

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 yeah the headaches are real! Are you taking them just before bed? I literally take them as late as I can and it helped a bit.

@Riverskye any news on O yet? 🤞

I think I’ve ovulated. My chart says I have but I’m a bit sceptical of my last two temperatures. Yesterday I really needed the loo when I woke up & then my stepson came in the room and wanted me to read him a story, so I did all that before taking my temp. This morning I took it when I woke up, but I woke up really hot. Think we’ve got the heating on too high now it’s getting a bit warmer... so I guess will have to see if my temps stay up to confirm!

If so, then that’s CD22, which is one day later than my cycle without soy, but 10 days earlier than when I took it Cd5-9!

On “O day”, I had really bad nausea. I’ve never had symptoms of ovulation before and could be totally unrelated, but I really thought I was going to be sick for an hour or so and I hadn’t eaten anything yet. So wondering if that was it? 🤔

Hi Heybabes, yes just before bed, and still feel ill until about 3pm. Not feeling so bad today though with a higher dose, so maybe getting more used to it.

That sounds positive in terms of a stronger O 🤞! And hopefully much higher hormones!

@heybabes your chart definitely looks like you've ovulated, how exciting! Hopefully it stays high to confirm.

I'm currently on CD22, my temp dipped 2 days ago, rose really high yesterday but dropped again today. I've still had more CM this cycle so trying to not give up hope yet.

@riverskye I’m 🤞it was a fallback rise and you’ve ovulated also

@Riverskye yes I second what @A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 said, hoping it's a fallback rise for you :)

I got another higher temp today but also woke up too hot again! Don't know if me being too hot is giving me high temps, or if my high temps are making me feel too hot haha.

Hey! Just wanted to jump on. I tried soy for the first time the cycle to try and bring my ovulation sooner but it’s now CD25 and nothing! I’m panicking because I only had 36/37 day cycles so I should have just been patient! Has anyone found it delayed ovulation for them?

@Sperr what days did you take it?

@Sperr Welcome! What days did you take the soy?

I took mine last cycle CD5-9 and my ovulation was 11 days later than my previous cycle. I took them CD2-6 this month and my O day was one day later than the non-soy cycle. So no bringing forward for me at all! But mine are so irregular so it's hard to tell what they would have been without soy.

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 I took them 3-7! My last ovulation was CD22 so it’s only 3 days late at the moment.

@heybabes thanks for replying! I guess I just need to be patient for another week before I start really panicking!

@Sperr has anything happened yet?

I finished the soy, and feeling back to normal. Weird side effect, my boobs seem noticeably bigger and firmer. Having googled it, it does seem to be a thing, so even if they don't work, they won't go to waste 😁

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 wow that's the first good side effect I've heard of!

My temps have stayed up so think I'm confident in saying I'm now 7DPO! I'm going to try and not test this cycle but will see how long I last.

Also just wanted to say for the sake of this thread, a few days ago I was clearing out rubbish in my room and found the pregnancy test I took at 12DPO last cycle. I disregarded it quite quickly when I took it because I was just like "Bloody great, not pregnant" and chucked it into a basket so I didn't have to look at it. But when I dug it out it had two lines on it. I know it could be an evap or an indent as it's almost a month old... but there are definitely two clear lines. I had a period 2 days after anyway, but just wanted to say that it was my first cycle of soy and could have potentially resulted in a (very short-lived!) pregnancy.

@heybabes I know, I'm not exactly blessed in that department, so its a positive 😁 sure it'll wear off in a day or two though!

Ohh that's interesting re last months test. Yes hold out if you can! If it helps I just imagine I am peeing on money if I get tempted to test too early

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 hey! Thanks for thinking of me. I have ovulated- I just wanted to be 100% sure. I’m 6dpo I think. I have the 21 day blood test on Thursday so I’ll know for sure then! How’re you getting on?

Hi Sperr. That’s brilliant!

Have been googling because my nipples and boobs are tingling at the front still and are firm and I’m getting some minor headaches- both a sign of strong estrogen apparently. So the soy has done something, because I don’t get this usually. I’m on CD11 so haven’t taken the soy in a while

@A1b2c3d4e5f6g7 if I did ovulate when I think I did I definitely had cramping which h never have! I would definitely say I have a lot more twinging and cramping now as well!

@sperr that’s great! Hopefully it’ll be a positive. Good to compare here, because there aren’t really studies of this that I could find !

@Sperr that sounds really positive! I had my CD21 bloods done yesterday, not sure when I'll get the results - haven't had it before but having some tests done for my irregular cycles. Do have them regularly?

8DPO today. I must say I have a real lack of symptoms at this stage. I do have slightly tender boobs but no cramps or anything yet which is strange as the last two cycles I've had cramps from 4DPO. Had a pang of nausea this morning. Not reading anything into it though! ;)

Hey just thought I'd update, I have just had a positive opk on cycle day 12 or 13 (of a 30 day cycle). Last month I didn't get a positive opk (just flashing smileys), and the month before it was at CD 21. So thanks ladies, looks like it is good so far!