9DPO Symptom Spotting

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Hey @ButterscotchBabe! Continuing our chat here 😁

I loooove that your temps did exactly what mine did too. So good that AF hasn't arrived at CD26!! Happy for you! When your temps increased last month, was it is to a gradual high or did it jump up again and then AF started? Because if this pattern is new, it could mean good news!

Ours definitely look like the beginning of a triphasic chart. My temps last month started dropping at 7DPO, so it still being high at 9DPO is such an achievement for me and no sign of AF either although my vulva feels AF'y in a weird way. My pulse and breathing rate have also continued to shoot up!! If temps don't tell you AF is coming, pulse rate defo will because it always starts falling a few days before AF for me.

I do suspect chemical but no BFP so can't confirm and nothing else changed that cycle so I can't explain it. Hormones were defo the reason I never took the pill, it plays such a big part in changing your reproductive cycle that of course it would have an affect on cycles after you come off them! 45 day cycles sound like a nightmare - especially when TTC too.

I do have a FRER! I'm always so scared to use it though. I always use rubbish ICs which probably aren't the best thing but I will use my FRER with you!

I like predicting what my temps will do with DH. What do you think will happen tomorrow? I think both our temps will go up again 😆

Yeh so strange to be spotting for so long! I'll do an IC if af hasn't arrived tomorrow morning.

If my tubes are clear then in theory it could happen naturally but I've had unprotected sex for 8 years (with 3 long term partners) and not fell pregnant, so there's clearly something wrong. I'll be pushing to go ahead with IVF regardless of the outcome of the MRI.

That's good the clutch bag shouldn't be too difficult! You'll soon have your own little empire 😀😀

That's strange the swab at the clinic doesn't test for Trichomoniasis, I hadn't heard of it but apparently it's very common. When I've had STD tests, I think they've only checked for Chlamydia and Gonorrheoa. Well done for arranging a test, as it's private you'll probably get the results quite quickly, so you shouldn't need to postpone the HyFosy.

"Await his arrival" 😂😂 DP doesn't go away often but before covid when he did, I generally had very lazy days, ate bad food and stayed in bed for ages! It's kinda like being a teenager again, when your parents are away 😂😂😂.

I haven't done any crafts today, I planned on being productive but it didn't happen 😂😂. Thanks for that link, I'll check it out! I was also considering selling on Not On The High Street. Do you think you'll sell your items on any other platforms, or just your own website?

Can't believe AF still hasn't started for you and you still have high temps. I wonder what's going on in your body??

What if the clinic says your tubes are fine so they won't be recommending IVF until you've tried xyz? They might put you on clomid or something for a few months.

Yeah, I think they only check for the dangerous ones. Trich doesn't really do anything but I guess as it's bacterial, it could cause damage in its own way. I'm just waiting for my health insurance people to call me and schedule me in for a test at a hospital. If not, I'll order an online test and do it that way.

Haha! Is your DP the super responsible one? Yesterday I did absolutely nothing, except almost kill my rabbit 😭 I kept having flashbacks of Float convulsing on the floor 😭 What a terrible evening. He's fine now and back to causing trouble. DH said I can't have hit his head because the broom stick was against the floor so he must have just been really terrified 😭😭😭 I can't believe I did that. I usually did that to get him and his brother out from under the sofa but this is the first time things went awry.

I think maybe I'll start off selling on my website. I don't know if I'd get much traction through other platforms. Maybe one day I'll have my products in shops like Harrods, House of Fraser, etc 😁

How are your ads coming along? Good to hear you've been getting some interest. It's just a matter of time before all your stuff gets bought!

I'm having a back to back double sided ovulation right now. Ovulating two eggs with none getting fertilised feels like such a stab in the back ovary. It's like my body is taunting me 😪 so unfair.

So turns out it's my longest LP ever! Really odd with the high temps and spotting but I guess I'll never know the cause!

If my tubes are fine then they might want me to try Clomid first but I think they're bound to find something wrong on the MRI. It won't be long now before I find out! It will be nice to finally have an answer, hopefully it's something treatable.

Have you managed to get an appointment/test for the Trichomoniasis?

I wouldn't say DP is super responsible but he's more healthy than me, so if he's away I take advantage of being able to eat/drink/do what I want without judgement 😂😂.

I'm so glad Float is okay and back to his cheeky ways 😂. You'll have to think of a more permanent solution to stopping him from getting under the sofas.

Harrods or Selfridges would be amazing although most shopping is online now, so places like ASOS, Very or Next might be better ones to aim for!

No more Etsy sales yet, I'm hoping one day someone will order several items for a whole matching set! Next on the list to make is place names.

Did you manage to DTD again today? Hopefully your cm tomorrow will confirm if ovulation has happened.

I'm guessing AF must be over now! What a rollercoaster of a cycle for you! Your whole cycle actually resembled something normal, minus all the spotting! Let's hope this is the start of longer LPs and greater fertility.

We talk so much in real life, I forget about mumsnet! 😂

3 more days until you find out! Are you nervous about what they'll tell you? It might not be as bad as you think it'll be. You're really lucky you were able to see the doctor about your ear grommets so quickly. How did you manage that?? It's impossible to see a GP face to face in 2 weeks, let alone a day! But at least that's one less thing to worry about now!

I called the sexual health clinic on Friday but they said they had a huge backlog and I should call again on Monday. So I'll do that and see if I can go in some time next week. Hopefully they offer same day appointments too. The walk-in system worked well, although you'd have to wait hours to be seen but at least you knew you'd be seen that very day. Now with covid, everything is a mess and taking longer.

I've seen you've added all your products onto your etsy shop! It's looking great! How's the place names coming along? I haven't been able to do much craft this weekend as my friend is here and I don't want to be antisocial - not that she'd mind anyway! I can't believe how much this makeup bag is stumping me. Maybe I should focus my efforts on something else and launch without makeup bags to begin with.

I've only DTD once this cycle so not really expecting anything. 4/5DPO today so if anything actually did happen, I'll start feeling something in the next few days. Really strange that my CM went from EWCM to stretchy/sticky and now I think it's actually starting to turn sticky/creamy. I've never had that before so my hormone levels must be slightly different this cycle!

I feel like every time I go on social media, there's a new baby being born. Why is it so easy to get pregnant and yet our bodies are completely failing at it 😞 At this rate I probably won't end up with a 2022 baby either.

Yes af has finished now, although only just, I was still getting a light flow yesterday. I don't know what to expect now in cycles going forward, I probably won't do a HPT again until 14DPO in future.

Yeh I suppose there's not as much to say on here now that we talk off Mumsnet 😂.

As we live in a village I think it's easier to get a face to face doctors appointment, although with the amount of house building in the area, it won't stay like that! Would you have to wait two weeks where you are?

I was surprised you managed to get seen so quickly at the sexual health clinic! Hopefully they won't leave you waiting too long for the results.

Once I've made a sale I'll start making more stuff like place names and other signs, I just need to make some money back now! How you getting on with the make-up bag, you said you were trying something different?

All it takes is once! The amount of people who say they "accidentally" got pregnant proves that! Have your boobs started hurting yet? If that doesn't happen soon, then there's definitely a change in your hormones!

Yeh it sucks seeing lots of celebs having babies at the moment! I also saw presenter Alex Jones had her 3rd baby at 44! 🙄

I think I'll learn from your experience and just not bother with HPTs ever. Maybe I'll believe it when I go into a surprise labour in 9 months.

Yeah, with covid, you first have to have a telephone consultation. That can take anywhere between a few days to a few weeks. But before covid, face to face appointments weren't something you could get quickly unless you called first thing in the morning. The app used to be good too as you could find cancellations and book one in last minute without having to call in. Covid ruined that. You're lucky there isn't too much demand on your GP. Is it normal to get next day appointments?

I booked in my FSH and LH blood test today. The hospital has an online system and there was lots of availability. I could even book one in for tomorrow. The sexual health clinic used to do a walk-in service, so I'm sure they're trying to see people as soon as possible like how they used to. However since my issue isn't urgent, I'm sure they didn't need to book me in so quickly, but I guess since my HyFoSy is dependant on it, they didn't want to keep me waiting. Do you have a local sexual health clinic?

I've never had a yeast infection before but how my lady bits feel right now is how I imagine it must feel! My labia minora is kind of tingly-burny.

I'll send a pic of my last makeup bag attempt. I think it's only a matter of time before someone buys something. Your newer items are much more luxurious than your greeting cards, yet people bought those. I know wedding items can't be impulse buys but I'm sure interest is growing! What will you be doing in the meantime while you wait for things to sell?

My wedding photo album arrived today! It's came in a very heavy wooden box and the album cover is a beautiful brown suede and the pages are thick cardboard - no wonder it cost a fortune! But I think DH and I are pleased with it. Will you be having a wedding album made?

I'm so excited to come wedding dress shopping with you! I promise I'll step into the role of the over-emotional friend who cries at everything you wear and tells you how amazing you look!

Yeah, my boobs hurt mildly. Perhaps as the days progress they'll start getting sorer. I'm happy with how comfortable the pain is because it definitely could be worse.

Annoying. What is her 44 year old body doing that our under-35 year old bodies can't!!🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁

I'm thinking about taking next week off work to do nothing. Have you taken much annual leave this year? I'm struggling to find good enough reasons to take time off work.

Also how was your X-ray (I'll definitely be asking you this in real life but I want to knoooooow!!)

I think the tingly-burny sensation is from dryness. I am sooo dry down there, like there's no lubrication at all 😭 My CM (or lack of) is drying me out. Do you ever get dryness? What does it usually feel like for you? It's so uncomfy!

Haha I wonder how many HPT's we've taken throughout our lives... probably hundreds 😂😂. Those companies must be minted!

Here you can only get a same day, face to face appointment if you call first thing. You can book a telephone consultation online but there's normally a few days wait. However whenever I've called, I've always been able to get a same day appointment. That's cool your GP surgery used to have an app that showed cancellations, shame they stopped that with covid, I don't know why though??

Hopefully you'll get the results soon from the sexual health clinic! Yeh we have one in the city centre, not near the hospital. Haven't used it in quite a while though, so I don't know what their appointments are like now.

Are you going to continue to perfect the make-up bag or try something different? I was planning on making Christmas cards but I'm feeling quite demoralised after seeing the wedding stuff not sell 😔.

Oh wow howcome it took so long to get the wedding album? Or did you order it after the wedding? It sounds lovely, you'll have to show me when we come and see you in October 😀. Yes we've ordered a wedding album in the package with our photographer 😊.

Haha aww I'm really looking forward to you coming wedding dress shopping with me! You'll have to be honest, you can't tell me I look good if I don't! I've told MOH she needs to be brutally honest as well 😂😂.

DP doesn't want me to chase the MRI results because he doesn't want things to move too quickly due to the wedding. But if things were able to move quickly, I could do the egg collection but freeze all and have the transfer after. Not sure if the NHS would allow that but I can ask.

Glad you managed to find a cure to your dryness 😂😂😂. I've never had dryness, I often have the opposite!

Oooops!! Keep forgetting to respond here!!

Thank goodness I've quit taking HPTs, I haven't had to buy any for months! But there are definitely women who probably take tests every single cycle. I just don't think the heartbreak is worth it!

You're lucky. My old GP in the town centre would have a queue of people on the phone waiting to probably book a same day appointment that by the time you get through, it's too late! The app was really useful, I hope they bring back the booking system as it's a much efficient way to do things.

Have you been able to sort out an appointment with your consultant? I'm quite keen to find out what they saw inside you. I'm also keen to find out what they'll see inside me! What if I was born with no fallopian tubes 😱 At least you have tubes! The 16th can't come soon enough!! I'm thinking about taking my remaining cyclogest pessaries during the cycle after the HyFoSy! Only issue is if I run out then I'd be stuck!

The xray you had, was it a HSG? Maybe if your tubes are clear then it might help you get pregnant.

I hate that everything seems to be physically and even hormonally normal with me 😠 it really frustrates me that there's nothing obvious wrong, which means it could be something difficult to find and fix - and that's definitely something I don't want to go through. You're in a much better position as you know what's wrong so your expectations can be managed. Quite surprised that my FSH was 8.3 as my AMH is so high. But I'm not too worried about the number because every scan I've had my AFC has always been 20+.

It took ages to get the album because it took me over a year to actually select the photos I wanted. I kept forgetting, then when I finally remembered, the album came in like a month! Awesome you'll be getting an album too! It's a good thing to show guests when they visit. I feel like my parents, bringing out the photo album for guests to look at 😂 Do you have any childhood photo albums? I have a few at my parents.

Yeaah I'm sure the hospital can't force you to transfer an embryo before you're ready! Maybe if you offer money to freeze the embryos then they'd allow it. It's definitely worth asking in good time. Have you finished your wedding planning?

Not sure what all the dryness was about! I've never experienced anything like that before! It's probably just my stupid body being weird.

Double jabbed and ready to sleep! 😴😴😴

Still haven't heard back about my MRI results, I don't know if the consultant will be calling me or if I'll get a letter for a consultation. It will probably be another 12 weeks just to get the results 😔.

Would you be happier if they said your tubes were clear or if they were blocked? Arguably it's easier if they're blocked as then you'll go straight to IVF but you'll never conceive naturally.

Yes I had a HSG many years ago, the result was 'inconclusive' 🤷 but the procedure was very painful which normally means there's something in the tubes. If your tubes are clear then it shouldn't hurt.

I wouldn't say I'm in a better position, I could have extensive damage to my ovaries or womb which would mean I'd need donor eggs or may not be able to carry a pregnancy at all. But I appreciate them not being able to find the cause is very frustrating. You've still got more investigations to go yet and some issues aren't found until you go through the IVF process. One way of looking at it, is if they can't find anything wrong, then there shouldn't be anything to prevent the IVF from working 🙂.

Ah I see! It's lovely to have photos in real life and not just on a screen 😊. Have you had any framed or put onto a canvas?

My Mum has lots of photo albums of us as kids, I have couple which she made for me, using the photos she didn't want 😂😂.

Wedding planning isn't finished yet, the main details and suppliers are booked but I still need to sort invitations, wedding dress, bridesmaids dresses, stationery, rings, groomsmen outfits, background music and hen do! I'm sure there's other things as well... 😂

How are you feeling since having the 2nd jab? Did you get many side effects? I was told side effects are worse with the 2nd but I actually found I had less. I felt worse after the 1st one.

We're finally in the TWW together! Got my ovulation pain on the evening of CD15. Ovulated from my left side this cycle. I think there must be 6 days between us right now if I'm 2DPO and you're 8DPO. DH and I have continued to abstain... Not that I've gotten the urge anyway... I hadn't felt any pre-ovulation pain prior to CD15 so I thought I'd either ovulate late or that my previous pains were all in my head because I was actively focused on my body, but nope, the ovulation pain came all the same at the right time.

Have you heard anything back about the consultation? How long will you leave it before you chase them? Let's hope it's not another 12 weeks, that would be a ridiculous length of time to get results for a procedure. They should let you know within a week, even if they have to call you on the phone. They shouldn't be allowed to keep you in the dark about your body for so long, it can cause stress!

I'd be happier if I knew the reason behind why we weren't getting pregnant. I'm tried of everything being fine. How can I be the epitome of health yet my body doesn't act like it! I'd love to conceive naturally, but it's been 13 cycles, something must be wrong.

Oh, ouch. This time around they didn't put any fluid into your tubes right as it was an MRI and not an X-Ray? I should remember to take drugs beforehand in case it's painful for me too. DH will be coming with me, so he'll get to see the future home of his unborn children 🏠 After the hyfosy, I wonder what will happen next if I don't conceive in the next 3 - 4 cycles. I'm thinking about taking soy again to boost my chances of a hyperovulation so I can have twins and never TTC again!

I don't think you'd have extensive damage. I'm sure if it was that extensive, they would have been able to see it through an ultrasound. Plus you'd probably have very painful periods. You'll be able to carry your own baby and use your own eggs, don't worry about that! You ovulate every cycle so that's already half the battle won.

I just don't want to be diagnosed with unexplained infertility. I've bought an allergy test to see if maybe something I'm allergic to is causing inflammation inside me.

Yeaah, we have two photos of us on canvas, gifted by my cousin. We have them displayed in our living room, although I do kind of find them cringe 😂 I'm not really a photos-around-the-house person, but maybe when I have kids, I'd have their photos plastered everywhere. Do you guys have any romantics photos of yourself in the house? I only remember seeing your baby pics - so cute 🥰

Oh wow, you really do still have loads to do! Will you be making your own stationery? How do your bridesmaids feel about their dresses?

My second jab took me out completely! I didn't even take the day after off work because I thought I'd be fine but I literally felt like I was having a psychotic episode that night. My thoughts and heart were racing. My head was pounding. I was cold and hot and sweating and shivering. I couldn't sleep. I just couldn't relax my body. Then the next morning when I woke up, I felt like shit but thought I'd power through it. But ended up falling asleep and waking up at the end of the work day 😂😂😂 I think you had a lucky escape both times. I never get ill so this was so strange for me to experience. Going forward, booster shots may need to be given, do you think you'll get them?

I have a launch date for my business of 1st Oct but might need to shift it as I don't even have the materials I need to make any of the products! I'm actually starting to feel nervous.

Some advice needed please. This month I had brown spotting for 2 days instead of a period. My husband and I have had two rounds of IVF and sadly both failed. My his and has low morphology, but could I have conceive naturally? Has anyone else had this brown spotting and been in this situation? Any advance would be greatly appreciated.

I'm CD6 today so if your af starts tomorrow we'll be a week apart! Has spotting started yet?

It's very stressful just hearing nothing from the fertility clinic, I had the MRI a month ago now and I have no idea how or when I'll get the results. DP reckons it's gonna be another 8 weeks!

I hope you're relieved knowing that your tubes weren't fully open, as appearing to be the epitome of health was frustrating! Now your tubes have been cleared it's given you hope again 😀. Fingers crossed it happens in the next 3 months 🤞🤞

I do have very painful periods, I've been on prescription codeine for many years. My AMH and FSH scores are not normal for my age and indicate a diminished ovarian reserve. That could only happen due to the damage caused by the peritonitis. So I am expecting very bad results but expect the worst and then anything better feels like a positive outcome!

Did you do the allergy test?

Aww lovely, I think we'll probably put up some wedding pics when we have them! Haha the only other pic we have of us is in the bedroom, on DPs bedside table 😊. Yes I can imagine us taking thousands of pics of our kids 🤣🤣

I'm making some wedding stationery and ordering some, it's too much to make it all! Did you make all of yours? Bridesmaids were okay about the dresses but I've ended up swapping the MOH and Bridesmaids dresses, as they preferred each others!

Wow that's strange you had such a bad reaction to the vaccine! Hope you're okay now and haven't experienced those symptoms since? I probably won't have the booster, I've had random sharp pains in my chest, no idea if it's to do with the vaccine but I just think I'd rather not have it. Do you think you'll get it if offered?

1st of October is really close now!! How you getting on with making products?

You must be super close to ovulation now? I'm due to ovulate next week Thursday or Friday! They'll still be a few days between us but we'll probably be in the TWW together again! DH and I started DTD yesterday, so we'll probably do it every 2 days and maybe everyday when I get my +ve OPK.

How does it feel not tracking temps and taking a break this cycle? I've started wearing my Ava bracelet again and taking soy too! Hoping for a double ovulation!

Have you heard back regarding the consultation? I got a letter from the NHS about a telephone appointment to discuss my referral for IVF in January! Exciting stuff! Hopefully we'll be referred around the same time and won't have to wait long!

Ah! Didn't realise how painful your periods could get! The HyFoSy was my first experience of super pain in that region and I was just thinking whether that was how it felt for some women every month! I actually know some women who get hospitalised from the pain so it's probably worse than what I experienced with the HyFoSy!!

I think you'll be surprised with how you respond to IVF meds. Your ovarian reserve doesn't sound terrible to me!! It's not amazing but I don't think it's that bad! Plus it might not paint the full picture. My FSH was 8.3 and if I recall correctly, your FSH wasn't too far from that and I have loads of eggs! So don't put too much weight on one number!

I did do the allergy test! Well, it was an intolerance test. Not sure how much I believe it though! I'll have to send you the full report!

I didn't make much stationery. I made the wedding booklet but never sent out invitations, I took RSVPs online! I also designed the seating chart and table names then got those printed. I'm looking forward to seeing how yours turn out!

Not sure I'll get the booster either. I don't get the flu jab so I can't imagine I'd need the COVID one either. How's your chest pain? Did it start since getting vaccinated?

Haha 1st October is here and I haven't made anything!!! Terrible! I need to order more stuff like zippers, lining material, etc.

How did prep for the interview go? Hope you're not too snowed under? Are you feeling confident? Good luck with it! You've got this!