9DPO Symptom Spotting

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Hey @ButterscotchBabe! Continuing our chat here 😁

I loooove that your temps did exactly what mine did too. So good that AF hasn't arrived at CD26!! Happy for you! When your temps increased last month, was it is to a gradual high or did it jump up again and then AF started? Because if this pattern is new, it could mean good news!

Ours definitely look like the beginning of a triphasic chart. My temps last month started dropping at 7DPO, so it still being high at 9DPO is such an achievement for me and no sign of AF either although my vulva feels AF'y in a weird way. My pulse and breathing rate have also continued to shoot up!! If temps don't tell you AF is coming, pulse rate defo will because it always starts falling a few days before AF for me.

I do suspect chemical but no BFP so can't confirm and nothing else changed that cycle so I can't explain it. Hormones were defo the reason I never took the pill, it plays such a big part in changing your reproductive cycle that of course it would have an affect on cycles after you come off them! 45 day cycles sound like a nightmare - especially when TTC too.

I do have a FRER! I'm always so scared to use it though. I always use rubbish ICs which probably aren't the best thing but I will use my FRER with you!

I like predicting what my temps will do with DH. What do you think will happen tomorrow? I think both our temps will go up again 😆

I wouldn't have minded them being outside but DH doesn't want a large enclosure like they had before and I want something sturdy and secure so it's safer for them to be indoors at the moment. We'll have to rethink their space. They have so much to chew that it's not boredom at this point. It's curiosity and the need to annoy me.

DH definitely wants IVF more than me. I flip flop between wanting to wait to see if it'll happen naturally to wanting it to happen through any means possible. I guess I'm just sad that I can't do something that so many other woman can and we'd have to fork out thousands to make a baby. We're lucky money isn't an issue but I still don't like the prospect of using it to create a life. It would have been nice if two bodies came together to make a baby. With IVF, the magic is gone.

It's definitely a good plan for you guys to go straight for IVF. You should really push your clinic if they suggest otherwise. A lot of it is a waiting game with the NHS so you might want clomid while you wait for an IVF spot. It'll be better than DTD and hoping for the best while the waiting list is 12 months long or something.

That's good! You don't ask, you don't get so at least by asking she's put it forward and you could potentially be having an MRI. Will an MRI show the same thing as a HSG? Haha enjoy protecting yourself from a natural potential pregnancy since we're super fertile 😂 But better safe than sorry! Condoms are the worst, I'd rather abstain, but Friday is literally two days away anyway so abstaining might be fine too.

24th May will be my scan, which will potentially be on CD3. 1st June would be my consultation and the next AF after that will be due 17th June, which will be the cycle I start my medication (hopefully 🤞) The AF after that will be due 12th July so I hope things move really quickly so I can start in the June cycle. I think 3 weeks between consultation and next cycle will be enough time to get everything sorted. I've started collating all past examination results. I also need a TSH blood test, which I hope to get with ABC, smear results, and MMR vaccination evidence, which I'll need to get from my GP. If I can get all of those, it might speed things up.

Haha back to exercising you go! We've been hauling blocks of concrete, so that's my workout regime at the moment. Now that the weather is beginning to warm up (barely) you can look to start some outdoor workouts.

Yeah, I want to buy an incinerator bin to get rid of the wood quickly and DH wants a proper bonfire, so we'll get both 🔥

I have a friend staying over the weekend. Have you met up with anyone yet?

Letter arrived today for my next ultrasound booked for 18th May, so that's not too long to wait 😊. Still don't know whether the HSG scan will go ahead tomorrow, waiting for Dr to call today.

You'll be coming into your fertile period soon, one of your last cycles for a chance of natural conception! Good idea to really go for it and get lots of DTD in 😂.

Having to go through IVF you miss the romance and spontaneity but you don't lose the magic, the magic is meeting your new baby for the first time and taking them home 😊. It doesn't matter how the baby is made, the important thing is the outcome 👶.

Haha yeh it did make me laugh when she said you'll need to use protection, my body seems to have its own, permanent, mechanism of protection! The HSG scan puts dye into your fallopian tubes, they then take several x-rays to show the dye moving through. The MRI will show a detailed view of the whole area but probably not inside the tubes. So they'll show different things, there's pros and cons to both but I'd rather have the MRI - less radiation and less painful!

Will your scan on the 24th be internal? I'm just thinking you'll likely be on your period but that probably wouldn't matter.

Will ABC want a SA or are they happy to go off your DH's previous results?

You could ask your GP for a TSH (thyroid) blood test as ABC will probably charge you. I had a TSH test about a year ago when I was having chest problems, as an overactive thyroid can cause increased heart rate and palpitations but my result was normal.

You're gonna get really fit with all this garden work! Just be careful not to damage your back, I hate gardening because all the bending over gives me backache ☹️.

Yeh we met a couple of friends at the pub a week or so ago but haven't seen anyone else since. As the weather gets better we'll probably go out more. I'm 30 in a couple of months so I'd like to start planning a fun day but it's difficult to know what will be going on with Covid at that time!

Doctor just called, they've had approval for an MRI scan for me 😀😀. So I've cancelled tomorrow's HSG x-ray, so pleased I don't have to have that! My fertility doctor was concerned the MRI might not show inside the tubes but the radiology department have confirmed it's very detailed and they will be able to see inside the tubes. This will show a really clear picture of my whole lower abdomen, so hopefully it will reveal what the problem is!

Hi ladies,

Sorry to jump on here, long time jerked🤦🏻‍♀️

We’ve been TTC after our MMC in April this year. I’ve due my AF in 6 days and took a test today... I’m so confused the digital says pregnant and cheapie Sainsbury’s looks abit unsure.

Any help and advice would be appreciated🤞🏻🌈

@Awils03 Sorry to hear about your MMC 😔 I'm not really sure, sorry. It could be left over hCG or you could be pregnant again. Give it another few days and see if it gets darker. Good luck!

@ButterscotchBabe Yaaay! That's good news! Will the MRI be today as well? I hope you get the results back quickly so you can have a proper discussion about it on 18th May. You'll also finally be able to find out your DP's SA results! Are your scans and consultations from now on going to be on the NHS?

I have a friend staying over so DTD will be difficult but if he's gone by Sunday then we might have a chance, although, ideally, I would like to start now. I'm CD10! If sperm can live for a week, I should have started two days ago. How are you guys planning on DTD? Have you been using protection or just abstaining?

I guess you're right. Making the baby is only one part of the 18 year journey and probably the least important part too. It just really sucks that it probably won't happen naturally but oh well. I should count my blessings. It could definitely be worse. I spoke to a lady on here whose DH had a really similar SA to my DH's and they'd been trying for 18 months (although she was over 35) so they went straight to normal IVF (not ICSI, phew!) and were able to get 8 good quality embryos! So hopefully DH's sperm can give us good embryos and we wouldn't need ICSI either. DH's sperm are really good swimmers (64% motility) so there's some hope yet.

Yeah, my scan will be internal on the 24th but I'm not that precious about my period. A little bit of blood never hurt nobody 😂 I just hope the follicles wouldn't be too small to see. Although this day 3 image seems pretty clear so hopefully it'll be fine.

Yeah, we can have previous results from up to a year ago, so my AMH and DH's SA should be good as we did them in January. I don't mind paying for the blood test at ABC. It'll be around £30, which is ok. I think they'd also want STD results and my last one was in 2017 just before I met DH so not sure if I'd have to do another one. However! I did get inspected (investigated, checked out?) in October because I was having weird cramps and had a swab done, and I was infection free, so I hope that'll be enough.

That's good that your TSH is normal because that's another thing that'll impact fertility. I hope mine is normal because treatment would be delayed to rectify it. I don't think I have symptoms of hyper- or hypo- thyroidism🤷‍♀️

Yeah, back pain when gardening is an issue. You'll have to use your knees a lot and I'm getting old 👵 my joints aren't what they used to be. I've been lifting with my knees and haven't done any damage to them or my back, so I'm doing something right, for now 😂 You could just grow plants indoors on your window sill and you wouldn't have to worry about bending to tend them.

Did you vote yesterday? I really couldn't be bothered, but I did anyway. I voted for the candidate who actually went around and delivered her leaflets herself. All the other parties used other people. So the fact that she worked hard for herself means she'll work hard for the council. Also she studied electronic engineering and worked in telecoms, so I definitely feel a bond 😂

Eeeeeeeeeee 3️⃣0️⃣!! You'll be in your thirties!!! What a waste of a year but I hope you can get something planned and celebrate it the way you deserve! What are you thinking of doing? Will you make your own birthday outfit?

No unfortunately I've got to wait for a letter from the hospital with a date for the MRI, hopefully the wait won't be too long! The 18th May is the second ultrasound but it's in the radiology department, not the fertility department, so I won't be able to discuss my results or treatment plan. My consultant said she'll book a consultation to discuss next steps once we've got the results of the MRI and the second ultrasound. Yes I'm assuming all investigations and treatment will now be on the NHS. I've told DP he needs to ring the fertility clinic himself and ask for the SA results, else we'll be waiting months!

Aslong as you can DTD from tomorrow that should be okay, I don't think you ovulate as early as CD12? Hopefully you'll be able to get some up there at least a day before ovulation! Have you started OPKs?

We haven't DTD yet this cycle, we were abstaining due to the HSG I was going to have yesterday but turns out we didn't need to! We'll probably do it soon, I think DP is getting peckish 😂😂😂.

Yes I'm confident you'll get some good embryos! Also I imagine it's much easier for sperm to get to the egg in a petri dish, than swimming against gravity through the cervix, through the womb, then half pick the wrong fallopian tube, the half that go the right way then have to find the egg. It's quite an obstacle course!

Wow I'm surprised by that Day 3 scan, I didn't think they'd be able to see something so small, so clearly!

Yes fingers crossed your TSH comes back fine! It's surprising considering so many things can affect fertility and so many things have to go perfectly for conception to happen, that anyone can get pregnant!

I agree with joints not being what they used to be, before age 25 nothing ever clicked, now my knees often click when I stand up from bending down. Also my hips often seize up and I have to crack them to release full movement 🙄😩. I never knew I'd feel so old at 29 😂😂.

Yes I did vote, well done for voting, I think it's really important, especially for women seen as we didn't used to be allowed to! I'll send you a private message about how I voted, it would reveal too much info on here! Did the candidate you voted for win? That's funny you had those things in common!

Urgh I know, what a waste of the last year in my twenties 😭😭😭. I'm thinking of having a small party/gathering at a hotel or pub with a nice outdoor area. It depends on costs and restrictions but apparently they'll be no restrictions after 21st June. I'll make some enquiries! Unsure if I'll make my own outfit, depends how good some of the next things I make turn out!

Hope you're having a nice weekend with your friend visiting, shame the weather is rubbish!

My friend just left. Finally! I was hoping he'd leave a day earlier but DH and I managed to get x2 DTD in yesterday! So we're on schedule. 😅 I've also moved the rabbits back outside. It was either that or selling them. I bought wire mesh to cover the top of the run to keep them safe. As you can see, the garden is still a mess but we've removed all of the concrete and cut down most of the trees.

Ah so now you have to wait for another date to do the MRI and another date for your consultation. Well if they keep being this quick, maybe you'll be done with all your appointments by the end of this month. Yeah, defo get your DP to ask for his SA results although there isn't anything to worry about in that department - you lucky lady 😂😂 Sometimes I wonder if DH's sperm count was high if we'd be pregnant already. Maybe I'm super fertile secretly.

Ooops! I am CD12 aren't I? 😱 I forgot to do an OPK today! I'll hold my pee from now on and do one just before I sleep. Have you started OPKs?

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Better go serve your DP a little snack! 😂😂 Will you be using condoms going forward? I guess without an MRI date, you wouldn't be able to TTC this cycle as ovulation is right around the corner.

Yeah, I'm quite surprised too at how clear the follicles are! I hope mine are that clear. I just hope they're not so polycystic this time (apparently it can come and go.) 23 in one ovary is ridiculous and I know when on the medication my follicles will grow so big, it'll probably end up being very uncomfortable - I'm not looking forward to that.

I seriously think we're doing something wrong, because despite all odds, people get pregnant so easily! We're definitely the unlucky ones 😔

Yes! Absolutely! 25 is when everything starts going downhill!!! 😂😂😂 Can't believe your hips seize up though 😂😂😂 It must be what happens when you get close to 30, so I'll start expecting that soon 😂

No, my candidate didn't win 😞 Conservatives did 😪 but the majority of wards in Reading are Labour. Only three are Conservatives and I happen to live in one of them! The lady I voted for was Lib Dem but she didn't even come close to winning. I should have just gone for Labour 😂😂 But she was lovely either way.

Yeah, it might be worth booking waaaaaay in advance if you want to book a venue for your bday! I'm sure once restrictions are lifted, everyone will want to meet up with everyone.

How was your weekend??

Haha that's funny you DTD twice whilst your friend was there, very sneaky, good work 😂😂😂. I think it's good you've put the bunnies outside, at least they can't damage anything else 😂. Have you be able to fix the sofa?

So DP rang the fertility clinic for his SA results and they fobbed him off as I knew they would. He wasn't prepared to be pushy and they won't give them to me, so we're gonna have to wait until the next consultation 🙄🙄.

Lol well your progesterone is low without the pessaries so even if your DH's sperm count was higher, you may still need some help. Something like clomid might have been all you needed but IVF will get you pregnant quicker!

Your OPK will probably be positive today or tomorrow? I did my first one this cycle today which was very negative but I never ovulate before CD15, so to be expected.

We can TTC this cycle, it won't be affected by the MRI. I'll be on CD20 when I have my next ultrasound so hopefully they'll be a corpus luteum to see!

Hopefully they'll give you a low dose of medication as you won't need much for stimulation. You might end up very tender before egg collection but it will all be worth it!

If someone told me age 20 that it all goes downhill from 25, I might have been more healthy but you assume aches, pains, cracks and clicks don't start until you're 50! Well that's what I thought anyway, how wrong was I 😂😂😂.

That's a shame the conservatives won, the left parties (labour, green and lib dem) need to make some deals to stand down, so that all 3 parties aren't standing in the same area, splitting the left vote.

Yeh good plan to book a venue soon, I agree I think places will book up fast, especially now they confirmed today that restrictions are releasing on 17th May.

Weekend was a quiet one, ordered an outdoor run for the rabbit and have arranged collection of some furniture, so we've got room for the hutch. Once the furniture is gone on Thursday then the hutch can be built and I can finally get a rabbit!

Have you been doing anymore indoor home improvements? Does it feel like your home now you've had time to settle in?

Yeah, I managed to rewire the sofa myself so it works now. Still annoying but at least it was an easy fix. I'm sure the rabbits are much happier outside and if they try to dig out and escape, then at least I tried my best to give them a home and I wish them well with their freedom.

I think I've ovulated already. I got a +ve OPK yesterday around 1pm so my peak must have been before that as I had terrible ovulation pain last night and none this morning. I probably ovulated in the early hours of the morning. DH only managed to finish once yesterday as the second time around, the pain while DTD was too much so we had to stop. I really wanted a second load of sperm but I hope we have enough. I read that for men with low sperm count, ejaculating everyday doesn't deplete sperm, you just ejaculate a similar number each time, so I hope I have a good accumulated number in there. We're going to DTD twice today and tomorrow.

Really? What was their reason for not giving him his SA? I'm sure if he could verify his identity over the phone they'd be no issue giving it to him. I guess they're just being difficult. You should tell them to just post it to you because this is a bit silly now.

I don't know how much an impact my low progesterone would have. Maybe I'd be super fertile but I'd have multiple MCs. My progesterone wasn't so low to stop me from getting pregnant but definitely low enough for a MC. Oh well, who knows what else is going on. IVF just helps us avoid all the long and costly investigations.

I was hoping we'd ovulate around the same time so we can have our TWW start at similar times but if yours is still two days away, we might have at least a two day gap. Hopefully no more! You might get a +ve OPK tomorrow! Well, I hope you do!!

Ah amazing news about being able to TTC this cycle! Will the MRI be safe for an embryo though? It'll be a lot of radiation. It'll be awesome to see the corpus luteum hard at work getting the progesterone out there though.

I worry I'll end up more than tender. My follicle during my last scan was 22mm. Imagine if I have 22mm x30 in one follicle. I think it would feel terrible. I just really hope I don't develop OHSS, so I really really need them to tailor my medication perfectly.

Yeah, that would have been a good idea but everyone wants a slice of the pie. If everyone who voted for Lib Dem voted for Labour instead, Labour would have won. But I guess when you're surrounded by middle class people, they'll generally vote Tories.

Aww you'll be getting a rabbit soon! I hope they're a delight for you! Are you selling the furniture to free up space or are they furniture you were planning on getting rid of anyway?

I've booked an appointment to speak to my GP next week about getting on the NHS waiting list for IVF. I probably won't need it but at least the process will be starting if all doesn't go well with abc.

I don't know if it feels like home, but it definitely feels like a space I'm happy to live in. I'm not sure what "feels like home" feels like. I suppose my parent's place feels like home. Right now, I haven't celebrated much achievements and milestones here so I don't have a lot of fond memories attached to it. As time goes on, I'm sure it'll start to feel more and more like the place I always want to get back to.

Ooops, 22mm x30 in one ovary (not follicle. They poor thing would probable explode if that was the case 😂)

Glad you managed to fix the sofa, I wouldn't have a clue how to do that! That's where an engineering degree comes in handy 😂😂.

Hopefully the rabbits won't escape as they won't know how to survive in the wild, something will eat them! I had a rabbit about 10 years ago (different one to the one previously mentioned), that we let loose in the garden because we thought it was secure. However he must have dug a hole and got out because we never saw him again, he was probably eaten by a fox ☹️.

Have you had much of a temp increase? Although yours normally rises slowly so maybe it's too early to tell. As you had positive OPK and ovulation pain it seems pretty certain ovulation has happened. Great you've managed to DTD quite a few times! My OPK is negative again today, so our TWW will be a few days apart ☹️.

Their reason is they need the consultant to discuss the results but DP can't speak to the consultant because they won't let him attend appointments with me, arrgghh! I received a letter today with a date for our follow up consultation, for 6th July 😱. Seems ages away but I'll probably have the MRI in June, so the consultation can't be before that. Annoyingly they also sent me an invoice for the appointment, when I'm pretty sure I signed something to transfer to NHS funding, I've emailed them to query this.

DP seems to think MRIs are pretty safe as they use non-ionizing radiation, whereas x-rays and CT scans use ionizing radiation.

Yeh I can understand your worry about the OHSS, that is a real risk. They must have come across many patients with high AMH and polycystic ovaries, I'm sure they're used to tailoring the medication to be as safe as possible for those women. You could ask to be put on the lowest possible dose?

It's strange because typical Labour voters are working class and Tory voters are middle/upper class. However it seems the working class Brexit supporters, are now voting Tory and the middle class remain supporters are now voting Labour or left parties. Not everyone falls into those categories, as I'm a working class remainer but that's generally how the vote share has shifted. I think Labour need to stop putting all their efforts into winning back the industrial areas and Brexit supporters and focus on attracting new voters.

We're getting rid of the furniture as it's very old, so getting a rabbit has kinda forced us to have a clear out!

Good idea to get on the NHS waiting list and as you're with ABC in the meantime, it won't feel like you're waiting ages for things to happen!

Yes that's true, I suppose a place feels like home once you've got happy memories there. Fingers crossed in a year's time you'll be bringing a baby home and making lovely memories 😊.

Been trying to post this message for ages but Mumsnet must be playing up again!

Had to post the image separately, it wouldn't post it with the above message!

Haha thanks! My degree definitely helped by allowing me to recognise what needed to be done but I'm sure a quick google would have come up with instructions that you could follow, so I'm sure you could have done it yourself too!

😂😂 I shouldn't laugh as it must have been traumatising but the poor thing was probably having the time of its life with its new found freedom. Not a care in the world. Then something ate it in the end. When it comes to behaving sensibly, I don't and won't trust rabbits. When are you picking yours up? Send pics when you do!!

My temps have been a weird one so finding it hard to decipher. I didn't get an ovulation dip on CD14, I got it on CD13. I also got ovulation pain on CD13 but in the night time. However my OPK was +ve on CD13 so I couldn't have ovulated then, unless it was +ve for ages and I caught the end of my surge as CD14 was pretty much very -ve. I checked CM on CD14 and it was already starting to turn creamy. The only thing I can deduce is that I probably ovulated somewhere between CD13 and the early hours of CD14. Can I get ovulation pain before I've ovulated and not while I'm ovulating?

How are your OPKs today? +ve yet? A CD16 ovulation is normal for you so hopefully you have one this cycle. I'm jealous that you're morning DTD'ers. DH and I can never find time before 9pm and by then the day is over. I wanted to DTD yesterday and we hadn't finished watching our series until after midnight and there just wasn't any point DTD anymore as the day was already gone! I wanted to do it earlier and he wanted to watch one more episode 😠

That's still a silly reason. Why can't he have his results first and then you have a consultation with the doctor? Him knowing his results won't change anything and the consultant can still say what they need to say later. 😱😱😱 6th July! So far away but I guess it'll give you a good amount of time to have all your examinations done. Did you manage to sort out the invoice issue?

Yeah, I'll definitely voice my concerns of OHSS at the consultation. They'll hopefully start me off on lower doses and change it up as needed. I'm still waiting to hear back from the GP about my medical history!! I might have to call in or go in.

I actually saw a chart recently about exactly what you just said. How there's been this switch regarding how people vote. Brexit has definitely had a big influence and BoJo's chaotic energy is probably resonating with a lot of people.

I think mumsnet has been having issues recently. I saw some posts about how things were moving really slow. At least you got there in the end! That being said, I still have tor refresh the page to send this message!!

Really hoping to get a rabbit tomorrow! I'm gonna get up early and go to the store, fingers crossed they'll have some new ones!

You can get ovulation pain before, during or after ovulation, so it sounds like you ovulated early CD14. You're 3DPO already and I've still not ovulated ☹️. OPK was negative this morning, I'll test again later this afternoon. Looks like it's gonna be a CD18/19 ovulation for me.

Haha we tend to wake up around 6.30am and DP always has morning glory (as I think most men do!), so it doesn't take long to get going 😂😂😂. You could try setting an earlier alarm or have a lunchtime quicky?? 😂 That's a shame your DH put watching TV first, when the fertile window is quite limited but you've managed to put quite a few spermies up there, so I wouldn't worry.

So I'm now battling with the fertility clinic over NHS funding. When I queried the invoice for the follow up consultation, a finance lady said the doctor had just applied NHS funding to one procedure (probably the HSG, now MRI) and that I would go back to self funding afterwards. But that is not what I remember, I'm pretty sure I signed something to transfer completely to NHS funding. I've asked twice for them to send me a copy of what I signed and they haven't done. I've requested to be transferred to NHS and waiting to hear back. One bloody problem after another 😩. I've given up trying to get the SA results ahead of the consultation, if DP won't pressure them, then there's nothing I can do.

Has your GP contacted you yet? Did you manage to register with a new surgery or have you stayed with your previous one?

A friend on Facebook that I hadn't spoken to for years posted a couple of things that indicated she was having problems conceiving. People left pretty insensitive comments like "C'mon [husband's name] sort it out!", "Enjoy your free time while you've got it", "At least you're a Step-mum". So I reached out and asked her about it, turns out she's been trying for 3 years and is just starting fertility investigations, I think she was quite happy to realise someone else is going through a similar thing.

Have your old neighbours or your friend that you told, said anything about it recently?

So annoying have to send pic separately!

Send pics! Send pics! Send pics! 🐇🐇🐇

Haha well that doesn't help narrow down exactly when I ovulated but I think CD14 is a safe bet anyway. FF seemed to think I ovulated on CD15 so I had to override it. I think it was because of the super non-existent rise I got at 1DPO. But since then, it's risen quite a bit. Any OPK progression yet?

6:30am is so early! We're up around 8am if we're being early birds 😂 and I highly doubt either of us would be up for waking up even earlier 😂😂 so no morning DTD for us. I'll just be jealous and do nothing about it 😊

Oh dear, they didn't make the funding situation very clear. I really hope you get it sorted. Have you told them you've been trying for at least a year? Although that shouldn't matter as you have real issues affecting your fertility and it should be clear to them that you need IVF. Keep pushing!

Yes, I've been transferred to my new GP. I'll be having the appointment there. Luckily my doctor is a woman so hopefully she'll be able to understand and sympathise and maybe help get us on the NHS waiting list.

That's a really kind thing you did 💕 3 years 😔 bless her. I'm surprised she went public with it. Sometimes, people just don't get it and they'll say insensitive things like that. At least she knows she's not alone and has someone in real life to talk to about it. It's lovely you're being a good friend 💕

No one has said anything about my IVF. Although my friend said she wanted to visit next month and I told her I'd be starting my IVF then and she was surprised that I wasn't joking 😂😂 I guess since we haven't been trying for a year yet, it's a pretty extreme decision but oh well, I want a baby and I want one now! 😂😂😂

I've been doing work in the garden and my legs are covered in bites. I think mosquitos 🦟 absolutely hate them! So now I'm piling on the layers when I go into the garden which doesn't help as it's getting warmer! The garden is a mess so I'm hoping to clear some of it out. I've bought an incinerator bin so will start burning pretty much everything now!

Aski has been sleeping in our bed this whole week for some reason! And I've had to squash up against DH because she sleeps horizontally 😂😂 It's mostly me she disturbs because she'll climb on top of me and sleep on me. Or be touching me one way or another. She'll paw at the covers to wake me up and start purring. She loves affection and I love her 💕💕

Any plans for your weekend except getting a rabbit? How is your sewing project coming along?

Message won't pooooost!!!!!

I'll have to do what you do and attach the pic separately. Hopefully that'll work.

Also your chart has a +ve OPK inputted on CD15. Did you get a +ve??

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Pets at home only had one albino rabbit which had some health problems, so I've decided to buy off a private breeder and we're about to go and view these 😀😀

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Good to see you've had a nice rise in temp today! Yeh based on your OPKs it looks like ovulation was CD14. My OPK was 55% this morning but then 42% this afternoon, so I think my peak is gonna happen tomorrow. On CD15 I had 41% in the morning so I noted it as high as thought I would get my peak later in the day, but it went down so I removed it on FF and noted it as negative.

😂😂 I start work at 8am! I'm an early bird and you're a night owl 🦉😉. Could always do middle of the night and then go back to sleep?!

Yeh I've said we've been trying for over a year, so there's no reason for them to deny us NHS funding, fingers crossed they don't make it difficult! The first consultant we spoke to said it would be easy to transfer!

Do you know when your appointment with the GP is? Hope it goes well! It's really good you've got that as a back up 😊.

Aww thanks, I'm surprised she waited 3 years to seek help! I guess she was just really hopeful it would happen naturally ☹️.

I think most people will struggle to understand the choice to go through IVF because most people don't need to make that decision. You need to do what's right for you, if I didn't have low AMH and possible hydrosalpinx I would go for IVF with ABC.

Oh no, mosquito bites are the worst! Do you have hydrocortisone to put on them? There are mosquito repellents you can buy, might be worth looking into! Yeh you won't be able to continue wearing extra layers as the summer gets warmer.

Aww that's sweet that she loves affection because some cats don't! When is she due to be spayed?

Haven't done any more sewing yet, today has been taken over with getting the bunnies! When we got home we had to build the hutch, we couldn't build it before because we had to have a big clear out. I'm a bit nervous about having two males because I'm worried they'll fight before we get them neutered. They cuddle and love each other now but that might not last when hormones kick in. How did you manage it with your two?

I'll have to send pics in a different message!

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You must have a +ve OPK today right?? My temp today was the same as yesterday so I wonder if it'll get any higher. Last cycle's high temps were nice but it'll probably never happen again (naturally)! I still have seven progesterone pessaries left but I'll probably save them for whenever.

If you start work at 8am, does that mean you finish at 4pm? I'd hate to start that early. I'm guessing before covid you used to get into the office for 8am. Even when I went into the office, I'd get up at 8am! I'm just terrible at being on time for work.

Fingers crossed! I really do hope it's any easy transfer. At least they should put you in the queue. You may have to wait 6 months, but that won't be too terrible.

Yeah, my GP appointment is on Tuesday. It's just a telephone appointment though but I don't think I'd need to see the doctor face to face to tell her we're infertile. I hope she's understanding!

My 8 months trying seems like a cop out when someone has been trying for 3 years! That's a lot of faith and strength! But at least the help is out there and she's going for it! I really hope she gets her baby! Let me know how she gets on in the future.

I don't have anything for the mosquito bites but they're starting to go down now. It's annoying but since I've started wearing more layers, I haven't been bitten. The worst I've experienced was in Turkey. Those mosquitos were like warriors. They came at you with all their might and you couldn't keep them out. PTSD! It was a warzone. Have you ever seen manic mosquitos before? Tourist blood must be sweeter because they go crazy for it.

Aski is getting spayed tomorrow! Finally. She's been meowing loads because she wants to go outside. So once she's healed up, we'll definitely let her explore.

It was a nightmare with the boys. They fought. Lots! It was literally a to the death battle. But with rabbits, you need to let them fight it out so they can establish dominance. But the hormones didn't help and they were really aggressive towards each other. Try to get them neutered early before their hormones kick in and it should be ok. If not, you'll need to separate them, but at least you have two levels to their hutch. We separated our boys but because they fought loads, we were worried they wouldn't bond again but we got really really lucky and they love each other again! Male pairs are difficult to bond so if they're already cuddling you might be alright. How are they getting on?

We met up with our old neighbours today and I wasn't sad. If anything, it made be feel like I didn't want a baby 😂😂😂

How are your weekend been? Rainy?