POAS Anonymous - Thread 2

[AMS19]

A continuation of previous thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/4058758-TTC-cycle-1-just-come-off-pill-for-1?pg=1

@Happythoughts91
@CardioQueen
@GreenApplesYo
@positivitytree2020
@jessi60
@DrS44
@PowerOfFlowers
@SweetShopSurprise
@Bells20
@curcurbita

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@DrS44 ya we’ll try again later this evening! Haha we started off like that on Cycle 1 trying to make it as romantic as possible! 😂 now on Cycle 3 and just want to get it done and dusted, how unromantic of me! 😂

@AMS19 good thinking about not mentioning it, I got ahead of myself this morning! I didn’t say anything last Cycle, just because I wasn’t tracking it anyway! We DTD 14 times in 9 days last Cycle and on the last day he had the same issue (never had this issue in all the years we’ve been together) so figured he was just worn out! 😂 didn’t matter anyway coz I had a feeling it was well after peak so didn’t really need to do it!

Typical though on my first proper fertile day this cycle! 😐 will try again later, any other suggestions if the same thing happens? 😂

Who said babies are born out of love hey! Mainly born out of desperately trying to get sperm out and back in! 😂😂

@DrS44 good idea about the status thing! Im 22DPO, 5 weeks pregnant tomorrow 🤞🤞

@AMS19 haha just re-read and saw the hand job comment! 😂 I might have to resort to that later if I’m stuck! 😂

@positivitytree2020 hahah ya exactly I'll be like whambam thank you ma'am next cycle 😂 will be well over the baby making and being like get it into me 🤣🤣🤣
@AMS19 I have a visual of a cowgirl 😂 or you know when you try to jump onto a rodeo bull holding on to its horns 😂😂😂 it's the little things that get me 🙌🏼 also 5 weeks 😍🥰👏🏻

@GreenApplesYo ya I know exactly what you mean it's so hard to remember! I will have it as my signature every time I'm asking a question 😂 ya it went down but 3 hours later went up very high so who knows 🤷🏼‍♀️ I'm probably not gonna pay too much attention as I'm not doing it properly x

@DrS44 yes I think I'll start putting my info at the end of my questions to make it easier!

Also I am very keen for seeing photos of puppies. We have two Staffies and they are basically our children. I can't actually imagine how much we will love a baby 😂

@DrS44 We DTD on CD5, so the day before I got a .7 on my OPK. Although Premom still counts .7 as low 🤷🏻‍♀️ and I kept testing and it fell back down after that and went to 0 again since.

@AMS19 Thank you! I've added the FF chart so you can see what you think? Reassuring to know your temps were all over the place too though!

@GreenApplesYo Thanks, ok I'll try to ignore Femometer. So many other apps only measure in Fahrenheit though which is annoying! I don't think I would have missed the peak as o tested multiple times and it started going back now. I've attached that pic too.

@Emmgrem if you were further in your cycle i would have said it definitely looks like ovulation but I just can't see that early on. Also, FF hasn't added the cross hairs so even the app doesn't think it could have happened. But on paper it would look like your body tried. Keep with the BBT and OPK testing, I would for now assume you haven't ovulated and your hormones are just all over the place. I've attached my chart for my cycle straight off the pill in case helpful! I didnt ovulate that cycle but my temps were jumping all over the place!

@Emmgrem is that your highest OPKs in that picture?

@AMS19 Thank you for that. I hope my body keeps trying and that wasn't it for this month! At least I DTD just before to cover my bases. But like you said that early in the cycle seems unlikely. I started CD1 as first day of my withdrawal bleed.. so only other thing I can think is maybe I should've counted CD1 as the first day off the pill instead, as that was an extra 5 days before.

Seeing yours is helpful. How do you know you definitely didn't ovulate then? Yours seemed to rise and fall a few times? Or does FF mark the ovulation day for you when it believes you have?

@DrS44 yep that's the highest on premom although that one did come up as 68% high on Femometer but I've heard that's not as accurate.
So I'm just hoping that means my body still has another chance to try at ovulation this month and it was just gearing up? 😬 Seeing Femometer tell me id already ovulated just confused me this morning!

@Emmgrem CD6 does look quite strong so at least you DTD on CD 5! It looks almost as dark as the control line and that really what you want to be looking for? I would keep DTD just in case x

@positivitytree2020 Aw yay that’s good news for you!!
I hate having to time when dtd, much prefer it to happen naturally without putting pressure on things🙁
I’ll have to get the toys out to spice things up🤣 x

@positivitytree2020 I've also been mindful of OH feeling the pressure although it hasn't happened with yet fortunately, I'm just planning not to tell him too much about my peak to try and avoid this. Difficult not to share the excitement when it happens though. Defo ran into the kitchen with a still piss wet OPK last month exclaiming that it was time to start banging.

@Emmgrem I also think cd6 looks quite strong, it does seem a bit early but not impossible to have ovulated as others have said defo keep dtd and see what your temperatures do and if fertility friend gives you those crosshairs on your chart soon. When I first started using OPKs I do remember reading that not everyone gets really high percentages and sometimes people can peak at lower than that, but not sure how accurate that is- you can find anything on the internet can't you.

I'm CD10 today post withdrawal bleed and lots of EWCM this morning so will keep tracking, dtd more often and lots of crossing fingers for a peak in the coming days!

@emmgrem ohh sorry didn't realise that you're not in a standard cycle, but you were counting from a withdrawal bleed. In that case I don't think it would be 'early' as you can ovulate as soon as you come off the pill?

It wouldn't really matter if you had ovulated because you DTD, but a little weird not knowing it was happening I guess (if it has happened)!

I'd keep an open mind either way? See what happens with those temps 🙂

@bells20 @positivitytree2020 it probably didn't help that I said to DP 'inseminate me' as well as showing him my wet opk hah. I was joking, but I wouldn't recommend saying this. He still brings it up sometimes, I can't believe you said that.

@Bells20 @AMS19
Thanks for your help guys. I've ordered the easy@home OPKs so probably can afford to start testing a bit more often, especially as we are now POAS anonymous after all!
I did have pains as well as the EWCM, but sometimes I wonder whether the mind plays tricks, and it's probably normal to have some discomfort as things are adjusting when I've only just come off the pill.

@GreenApplesYo thanks. If I did ovulate early due to coming off the pill, should I still expect to have a standard length cycle (all being well) or would early ovulation mean I should adjust my dates and expect AF to happen early too? Which would mean only having a three week cycle

Whoever said tracking BBT and taking OPKs might be more stressful than it's worth wasn't wrong! I'm the type of person who likes all the data to be able to analyse everything and understand my body though. I find it really interesting and gives me some focus haha. But then also trying the SMEP too to cover all bases.

Haha thanks for the advice everyone, sometimes you forget about the pressure it puts on your OH too! 😊 sometimes I feel like I’m the only one under pressure with the BBT & OPK tracking! 😂 we’ll try again after work and if needs be we’ll resort to shakey shakey ! 😂🙈

@emmgrem hmm no I reckon if you have ovulated you will probably get AF (or ideally a BFP) at 12-14dpo ish. I don't think your luteal phase would be longer?

If this does happen, I don't think it would mean you have a 3 week cycle. I think that you'd probably go on to have normal 4 week-ish cycles.

Because you haven't had a natural AF only a withdrawal bleed (?) you're not actually in a normal cycle at the moment. So I don't think you can judge what your cycles will be like based on this time now?

But... You might not have ovulated making all this redundant anyway haha 🙂

@Emmgrem I've been reading loads about ovulating once you come off the pill before AF. And basically I can sum up the following

• you may not ovulate before you get your natural period. Some women take 2-3 cycles to ovulate again
• many women ovulate within 2 weeks of coming off the pill
• some women may take 2-4 weeks to ovulate without AF (that includes me at CD27 looks like I've ovulated)

-you can ovulate a few days after missed pills - could be you!

So basically although the norm of a cycle is 2 weeks, we aren't the norm! Because we haven't had AF we are still waiting! I would be looking at it as a positive if I were you and go DTD 💃🏼🙌🏼 either way your body is trying something which is fab! xxx

@Bells20 that sounds super positive! Did you do OPKs I can't remember if you've said? Either way EWCM sounds really promising 👏🏻

@Dex1521 we are on a new thread now! How are you getting on?

@GreenApplesYo hahaha I love that.

@DrS44 hiya, yes I am using OPKs, the easy@home ones. Today's was 0.17 😂 so hopefully my peak will come out of nowhere in the next few days.

@GreenApplesYo
Ahh ok, interesting. Looks like I'll have to be prepared for AF or testing I guess, in 2 weeks time just incase then. I'll keep monitoring things and see what happens over the next week when my predicted ovulation would have been.

@DrS44 Thank you that's really interesting and helpful! I wish someone had told me to come off the pill 6 months ago so I'd have a better chance the first month! Once you make a decision you just get impatient and want to give yourself the best possible chance. I guess ovulating early would be better than not at all!
I'm surprised though because when I was on the pill I was never particularly strict with taking it so was always worried as to why I'd never got pregnant any of those times. And pretty sure I never ovulated in the past whenever I missed a weeks worth. I'd always take more to stop my withdrawal bleed coming on whenever I felt cramping! 🙈

Hi @DrS44 and everyone thanks for letting me know about the new thread I had no idea 😂

I’ve been off the progesterone only pill for 3 weeks today (still no withdrawal or period) but been having all the symptoms of pregnancy but suppose they are also symptoms of ovulation/AF.

We DTD 9th, 10, 11th this month and the past few days I feel like I have an increased sense of smell for example I opened a packet of cooked chicken and it smelt so bad to me and my OH smelt it and said it just smells like chicken and when I was cleaning the cat food bowls out a few days ago the smell coming from them made me gag and it’s never bothered me in the past.
I’ve been having nausea but no sickness and dizzy spells where I go all shaky and feel like I’m going to faint.
This bit is TMI so I apologise in advance 😂 I went to the toilet yesterday and after wiping I noticed a large lump of CM on the paper (about the size of a 50p) when I put it between my fingers it was like a jelly consistency and clear which I’ve read can be either ovulation (as I don’t know the day I ovulate yet because of no cycle) or a sign of pregnancy 🤨 today was the same but was smaller about the size of a 1p but only happened the one time I went to the toilet not every time, yesterday was the same.

I just feel like I’m in limbo as I don’t know when AF is due or what is going on with me 😂

Hi @Dex1521 are you tracking temperature or OPKs at all? Without knowing anything else it sounds like it could maybe be EWCM to me so I would be getting busy with your OH!!