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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

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Oilyoilyoilgob · 31/10/2020 18:04

Just starting a new thread on self insemination before our first one locks down!

39 pages of highs and lows and THE most supportive group you could wish for if you’re starting or on a self insemination journey.

💚✨ good luck ✨💚

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primrosechill · 03/12/2020 12:08

Glad to hear you're not in as much pain anymore, @eloiseislost, though I do hope it means the worst is now over as opposed to it dragging out like you said. Definitely let us know how the call with the EPU goes and if there is even a tiniest bit of hope left.

So sorry this is happening on your hubby's birthday - what a shitshow 2020 is!! I'm honestly so pissed off at the universe on behalf of all of us. 2021 better be a corker! xxx

eloiseislost · 03/12/2020 16:56

Finally got a phone call from the EPU, my hcg yesterday was 230 and my progesterone 5. Midwife said the levels are so low, they normally wouldn't even test again but, because of the pain, I'll have another blood test on Saturday morning to hopefully rule out ectopic.
I feel like the worst is over, or at least I hope so! I have what I can now describe as regular to mild period pains and the bleeding has stopped, after a couple clots I passed in the afternoon.
Just physically and emotionally exhausted really. 😞

MrsKin90 · 03/12/2020 17:43

@Birchybirch it sounds like you've covered all bases in keeping going when the cheapies said you were ovulating so fingers crossed for you!! The things people say 🙄 honestly.

@primrosechill sorry that you got another BFN ❤️ 2020 can piss right off.

@eloiseislost I'm so devastated for you. I'm so so sorry. I hope you're doing everything you can to look after yourself and glad your partner is being supportive.

primrosechill · 03/12/2020 17:44

Oh @eloiseislost I'm so so sorry that this has happened and today of all days. Hope the two of you manage to spend a cosy evening together, being the support you need for each other. I see so much of myself in your story - I also got pregnant on the third try and I also miscarried at around 6.5 weeks. It might not feel like long into the pregnancy but it feels so real when it's happening to you and it's enough time to get emotionally attached to the idea. I'm sending you lots and lots of virtual hugs. Glad you are feeling better and it sounds like your body is doing all the right things now at least.

We'll be here when you're ready to start trying again but in the meantime take care of yourself lovely xxx

primrosechill · 03/12/2020 17:45

@MrsKin90 thank you for being lovely as always!

Oilyoilyoilgob · 04/12/2020 11:29

@eloiseislost I cried reading that. I’m really ever so sorry to read this is happening. Giving you and very big virtual cuddle, I hope you can feel you have many women holding you right now albeit virtually 💚

See what they say about a blood test tomorrow, if there is any chance they can I think do an internal scan from 6 weeks. When I went in for mine I was 5+6 and my doctor was awesome, he said if my reading weren’t so low that he was pushing for one as it was a suspected ectopic on admittance.

Keep warm, safe and look after yourself. I’m just very sorry. I know the hopes and dreams that start from the positive tests and I’m just so sorry xx

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Oilyoilyoilgob · 04/12/2020 11:34

@primrosechill I’m sorry to see you have another bfn ☹️ I know what you mean about feeling a bit flat. I really hope you are ok? Wait and see if the period comes but take it easy.

After a surprisingly painful cramping day ive bled much less this period. I do honestly think my body is unsettled after early mc, I bled for two weeks with that then my Oct period was three weeks after the heavy bleeding stopped.

I’m sorry to everyone who is facing early loss, a period or a bfn in their tww. Hard stuff this, sending you all love xx

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Lori23TTC · 04/12/2020 11:38

AF got me feeling awful but trying not to let it consume me. Sending hugs to all xx

eloiseislost · 04/12/2020 11:39

Thank you @Oilyoilyoilgob, it means a lot to have support, virtual or otherwise, it is equally comforting, in different ways! 🙂
Have more cramping today and passed tissue and clots, so I'm hoping that I will have a natural, complete miscarriage.
I'm hoping bloods tomorrow will be definitive. 🤞🏼

Oilyoilyoilgob · 04/12/2020 11:43

@eloiseislost stay well, look after yourself. I don’t want to sound blunt saying this but I hope it’s definitive too in the sense of no extended issues medically. Sending you a big squeeze and I’m sure you lee taking it easy to help you recover.

I feel very sad for you that this has happened. Xx

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Oilyoilyoilgob · 04/12/2020 11:44

@Lori23TTC I’m sorry to see about your period. Big hugs to you too, have a gentle weekend xx

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eloiseislost · 04/12/2020 11:50

@Oilyoilyoilgob Not blunt at all, these are my feelings exactly. I want this to be over physically so I can deal with the emotional aftermath.
Thankfully my GP practice have set up an online request service so I was able to submit a request to be signed off work for a couple of weeks to recover. That gives me some comfort, I couldn't face going to work on Monday.
Thank you for all your kind words and support, you are so lovely.
I forgot to ask and maybe I missed a few posts lately, but how is your cat?

primrosechill · 04/12/2020 12:00

@Lori23TTC looks like we're cycle buddies - AF hit me hard today as well. Double whammy of early testing disappointment and now actual period pains - yay me...

Also, this came 1-2 days early, meaning i had another 23 day cycle. Really stressed out about this tbh, they seem so short nowadays. I'm just constantly anxious that something IS wrong with my hormones and that there is something the docs are missing. Either that or:

  1. I am just a ball of stress and this impacts my cycles.
  2. Maybe the TTC pills are not helping after all?? Anyone else notice their cycles getting shorter when taking TTC supplements?
My lutheal phase was 12 days at least, so within norm there.

We will try IUI this cycle. Just booked some check-ups next week in anticipation of that.

@eloiseislost big big hugs to you - hoping it will be over soon. My MC dragged on for WEEKS, even though they claimed it was a complete MC when I saw them, and it was absolute hell - hoping yours wraps up smoothly xxx

Oilyoilyoilgob · 04/12/2020 13:27

@eloiseislost that’s the way to view it I think, physically it isn’t nice but mentally is what is harder. I hope it goes as quickly and as pain free as possible and I’m pleased to hear you have that time off to help recover 💚

Thank you for asking, we can collect her today at 3.30pm. There’s some lesions on her mid and lower spine, spinal cord inflammation and slight oedema in pelvic region. No signs of slipped disc or tumours on mri. Csf back mostly clear so they believe no FIP. He said if he didn’t know her history from us he’d suspect a spinal stroke, however they tend to recover not get worse ☹️ He had to express her bladder last night and give an appetite stimulant so I’m praying once she’s home she eats as he said she’s been subdued and stressed.
Lots of tears the last few days. Waiting for one more set of results next week. I’m not sure is some dragging down to muscle wastage so he talked to us about physio. She’s had better healthcare than me and husband combined 😅
I just can’t wait to see her. Even if the prognosis isn’t good she’ll have a few days at home warm and rested xx

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MrsKin90 · 04/12/2020 17:32

Oh my gosh so much sadness in one page!!
Everything just seems to really suck right now doesn't it??

@Oilyoilyoilgob I really do hope everything goes okay with your lovely cat. Sounds traumatic for everyone all around!

@primrosechill sorry about AF ☹️ I have never had a problem with seven seas TTC tablets and if anything they extend my LP. However there was a thread on here the other day asking that very question! So clearly it must have that affect on some people's cycles ☹️

@Lori23TTC Ahh AF. I'm so sorry ❤️

@eloiseislost I'm so sorry for what you're going through but you're so strong.

I've put my Positive Pants on and I'm here to tell you that we are all super super strong and can get through everything that's going on and we'll have lots of lovely BFPs and dreams coming true, 2021 has to be the year 🌟

Hopefully Christmas will be more happy than sad for everyone (I know it's not a perfect time and have my own issues with it this year). And it will give us something to think about other than TTC and babies. I've decided I'll be having a two week wait away from social media to avoid all of those lovely baby Christmas announcement posts, and to give myself some breathing room from symptom spotting. I am forseeing my tww being over Christmas. And if AF comes for me again, that's okay because I believe in 2021 ❤️ 🤞

MrsKin90 · 05/12/2020 08:25

Reading back I think I pulled my Positive Pants on too high and they got stuck or something!!

I'm on CD8 and I'm panicking I've ovulated without doing any SI. And looking back I have this panic every single cycle. 🙄

Lori23TTC · 05/12/2020 11:24

@MrsKin90 I’m glad someone has their positive pants on!! CD8 would be very early for you to ovulate? Maybe start SI today and then every other day until a temp spike? I’ve been ovulating slightly earlier in the last few months so I’m happy about that... hoping it continues. I have my HSG booked in for next weekend really worrying about it for some reason which is silly. But after that is done they can look into other ways to help Us as SI doesn’t seem to be for us.

@Oilyoilyoilgob I really hope your cat starts to feel better soon I can’t imagine what you are going through at the moment it just sounds awful. ❤️

@eloiseislost I hope you are ok I think about you everyday ❤️

@primrosechill sorry AF got you too 😢 onto another cycle for us both too! Easier said that done but try not to get to upset on the 17th... plan some ‘me time’ have a nice bath and put a funny movie on... can’t imagine how you feel too going through that.

It is all a bit doom and gloom but I agree @MrsKin90 that 2021 has to be more positive that this year! X

Lori23TTC · 05/12/2020 11:25

@primrosechill oh and my cycles seem to get longer when I take ttc tablets... I’ve stopped the last few months and I’ve gone back to my 28 days I used to be 18 months ago before I took anything. Not sure if it’s a coincidence. My period was also 2 days earlier this month x

primrosechill · 05/12/2020 16:41

@MrsKin90 CD8 does seem super early to ovulate like Lori said - are you temping this cycle? Has something happened to give you the impression that it might have happened already?

Is there such a thing as pre-natal depression? Because if not, we should coin the term for people who are just overwhelmed by the disappointment and heartbreak of TTC. I have been feeling really low the last few days if I’m honest, spontaneously bursting into crying while in the kitchen, on my laptop, going for a walk - you get the picture. Podcasts and baths seem to be the only saviours. We also fight with my hubby quite a bit, and by fight I mean I get angry at him for silliest things - I just don’t think I’m dealing with it all very well atm. I’m not 30 yet but I feel so much older than I am all of a sudden.

I need to shake off this megativity before Friday - we have a pre-IUI apt with the doc then. Need/want to be in a good headspace for the procedure itself.

@Lori23TTC don’t feel silly at all for being stressed about the HCG. Mostly due to my vaginismus, I get anxious every time I’m about to see a gyno, and so much more so when I know a speculum is involved. I’m sure it will be completely fine and hope you get some clear next steps from it ❤️ You say you might explore other options than SI - have you given it any more thought what it might be? (IUI, IVF etc.)

Sending you all lots of love. ❤️

primrosechill · 05/12/2020 16:43

@Birchybirch @bigsweetpotato any news from the two of you? I have it in my mind that your AF should be due shortly but I might be misremembering xx

Birchybirch · 05/12/2020 16:59

@primrosechill ah yes I absolutely think there should be a term for it! I've not quite had the same experience, but definitely feel frustrated/angry/upset sometimes. Please don't bottle up your emotions though, if you want to cry, just go for it! If you don't fancy making it too obvious, I can highly recommend the shower for a good sob!

Ooh I did have a quick look into iui when we 1st started on this journey in the summer. It's been very interesting reading the comments about it on here! I hope your appointment goes well!

I mentioned on here about the 7 seas ttc pills a couple of weeks ago. I noticed I'd not seen much cm since starting in the. I'm now torn between switching to just standard fa and vitamin d pills, or sticking with them and if/when we see a doc, seeing what they say about them. It does mention on the pack though about balancing your hormones (if I'd have seen that before I started taking them, I may not have started on them!)

Hmm nothing to report yet. AF is due next Fri, so in the words of Bon Jovi "were half way there!" in the tww! Thank you for asking! 🙂

bigsweetpotato · 05/12/2020 21:30

Hello guys, hope you're all well. Sorry for not chipping in as much, work has been quite busy lately :(

@eloiseislost I'm so sorry, sending you lots of love.
@Oilyoilyoilgob hope your cat feels better soon

@primrosechill thanks for asking love, I'm ok but mightily confused about my cycle this month. I stopped taking the pregnacare vitamins and started taking the seven seas ttc ones and I think it's knackered my cycle and it might take a cycle to get used to them! My cheapie sticks and my temps didn't match so I think I ovulated later than usual (from temps) on CD16 and might have missed it. My apps are now estimating AF next thurs which would give a 29 day cycle which is around 3 or 4 days longer than usual. Not helpful!!! So I think I have a couple of days to go for AF.

I've got obsessed with temperature taking and can stare at my graph for ages trying to look for signs, but there isn't any!! Suffice to say I'm sick of ttc. Haven't cried this cycle though, I'm more fed up.

Also whilst I can't wait to see my family at Xmas, I'm also dreading it as someone is bound to make some comment about me putting on weight and am I, wink wink raised eyebrows, while I try not to cry!! Eurgh..... Wishing us all some Lady Luck that it happens for us all. You are all a lovely lot and I'm so glad I found this forum to share!! Have a lovely Sunday xxx

MrsKin90 · 05/12/2020 22:30

I genuinely get a bit panicked about ovulating early even though I literally never ever have 😂 it's just an anxiety I have. I actually only started taking my temp for this cycle today and it's at my usual post-O level 😳 but we've had the heating on so I'm sure that's why lol. I can't possibly have ovulated already. 😬

@Lori23TTC I'm sorry you're feeling a bit nervous about your HSG but I imagine anyone would feel the same! Lots of people seem to have success afterwards so fingers crossed there's some sort of magic there 🤞🤞

@primrosechill pre-natal depression is definitely what we should call it. It sounds like you're having a rough time ☹️❤️ My husband declared over breakfast that someone he works with announced their pregnancy on FB but described their infertility journey and he said 'it gives me some hope that it isn't just us' and I felt like falling to pieces because I hadn't quite declared us infertile yet. 😢 I also cry, a lot, at random. I hope you'll feel more positive about the way forward after your appointment on Friday! How are you feeling about it?

@Birchybirch happy tww to you! Hope the rest of it doesn't drag for you!! 🤞

@bigsweetpotato hopefully you haven't missed it from ovulating a bit later than you thought. Sorry your cycle has been a bit funny. Who knew these vitamins could make such a difference?? And they say they just make your urine more expensive! Clearly they do something (not necessarily what we want them to!). People are thoughtless with their comments 🙄 hopefully that doesn't happen!! How bloody rude if people do make any comments. I'd eat someone if they mentioned my weight ever 😱

eloiseislost · 06/12/2020 19:41

Hello wonderful ladies! Thank you each and every one of you for your kind words and for thinking of me. 🙂
I went for a blood test yesterday, hcg dropped 70% to 62, so a sad but straightforward and uncomplicated early loss. 😔 Bleeding has almost stopped and no more pain. I feel much better physically and mentally, well, not as bad as I thought I would be. I just want to try again, I realised that this is my way of coping. If I just take a break and dwell on it, I feel like I will sink into a state of depression.
Had some sushi and wine today and I aim to start the couch to 5k program tomorrow, wish me luck!

@MrsKin90 I like your positive pants, I think I'm going to borrow them! 😅 2020 sucked huge hairy balls!! Onwards and upwards, may 2021 suck way less and be kinder to our hopes and dreams. 🌈

Birchybirch · 06/12/2020 20:40

@eloiseislost ah I hate that it happened to you, but glad that it's been straight forward.

I agree 2020 absolutely has sucked hairy ass! Hopefully 2021 will be a much better year for us all! X