TTC 35+ Thread 3 Cougar And Silver Fox Club

[ELM7]

New thread for us all and the list....
Lynnsong, 45, TTC (trying to conceive)#1, cycle 2
Dipsy77, 43, TTC (trying to conceive)#4, cycle 3 after MMC (missed miscarriage)
Sunbird24, 42, TTC (trying to conceive)#1, ivfsolo, attempt#1
Wavesandsmilesagain, 41, TTC (trying to conceive)#5,
Anna41, 41, TTC (trying to conceive)#2, cycle 5
Claireb707, 41, TTC (trying to conceive)#1, cycle 11
Tiletiletile1, 40, TTC (trying to conceive)#3, cycle 18?
Lucieloos, 40, TTC (trying to conceive)#3, cycle 3
Lastditchattempt20, 40, TTC (trying to conceive)#2, cycle 2
Posy1, 40, TTC (trying to conceive)#2, cycle 7
Justonemore39, 39, TTC (trying to conceive)#2, cycle 1
Musiceverywhere, 39, TTC (trying to conceive)#2, cycle 2
Selina37, 39, TTC (trying to conceive)#3, cycle 19
FridayKfangirl, 38, TTC (trying to conceive)#1, cycle 1
LT103, 38, TTC (trying to conceive) #1, cycle 3
Loladoodle, 38, TTC (trying to conceive)#3, cycle 2
Bearhug9, 37, TTC (trying to conceive)#1, cycle 8
Happyhappy37, 37, TTC (trying to conceive)#3, cycle 2
Sleeeeeepy, 37, TTC (trying to conceive)#3, cycle 1
Elm7, 37, TTC (trying to conceive)#1, cycle 8 (after MMC (missed miscarriage))
ChicaXS, 37, TTC (trying to conceive)#1, cycle 3 (after tfmr)
Moominmiss, 37, TTC (trying to conceive)#4, cycle 10
Farfromperfect82, 37, TTC (trying to conceive)#1, cycle 5
Angelchops30, 37, TTC (trying to conceive)#2, cycle 3
M4v3r1ck, 36, TTC (trying to conceive)#1, cycle 2
Matilda19, 36, TTC (trying to conceive)#4, cycle 2
Muda, 36, TTC (trying to conceive)#1, cycle 7
Semele5609, 36, TTC (trying to conceive)#1, cycle 2 after MMC (missed miscarriage)
Bellabubble, 36, TTC (trying to conceive)#1, cycle 4 after MMC (missed miscarriage)
Eviesma, 35, TTC (trying to conceive)#3, cycle 1
Chlo2701, 35, TTC (trying to conceive)#3, cycle 3
Pirateweasel, 35, TTC (trying to conceive)#2, cycle 3
Emeraldlily18, 35, TTC (trying to conceive) #1, cycle 13
Kwastell, 35, TTC (trying to conceive)#1, 2+ years (3mmc)

BFP (big fat positive)’s....
Mrstobe, 36, TTC (trying to conceive)#3, cycle 6 (1 MMC (missed miscarriage)), BFP (big fat positive)!
PinkTulipz, 37, TTC (trying to conceive)#3, cycle 1, BFP (big fat positive)
Sunshine1984, 36, TTC (trying to conceive)#2, BFP (big fat positive)

@claireb707 I think that level of amh would be an extremely high indicator of pcos. You can have the syndrome without symptoms. I cycled with somebody who had it. It may mean you could get a good number of eggs from ivf and then it's just finding one of good quality but the more you have to start with the better the chances.

I had no choice but to stay strong really. It was the most difficult time of my life and completely changed me but I was determined not to let it get the better of me 💛

Got up this morning and thought I'd take a test as I have a FRER in my drawer that was asking to be peed on. I'm either 8 or 10 dpo and I ha e a squinter, I've tried to take photos but can't get the line to show. I'm not hopeful because i feel like AF is about to arrive but it's made me order some more for tomorrow just in case x

My temp and rhr have dropped completely do i don't think I've ovulated this cycle. Not much I can do about it. So I'll try to focus on other things.
My ex has blocked me now. Says he'd keep sending money but none has shown up. Horrible man. I don't think the stress and upset helped any.

I’m 8 dpo. Felt the urge to poas, used an ic so clearly a bfn. Anyway back to plan a. I’ll test on Monday Or Wednesday with a frer. 10/12 dpo better time to see something hopefully!!

Fingers crossed @Dipsy77 hope it gets darker!

Sorry for bfn @LT103

I'm 11dpo today and another bfn for me so I'm out. Stopping progesterone today which should hopefully make af come in a couple of days.

How long do you think you would continue ttc if nothing was happening? Mainly aimed at those trying for siblings.

Trying to catch up as the weekend starts... I’m so sorry @lastditchattempt20, I hope you find some positive energy in the new cycle. AF disappeared for me now so onwards into cycle 6 for me! Realistically I don’t want to try for more than a year, and DP and I are already lucky to have DC from previous relationships but we’d love to have one together. I’ve started taking a few supplements and bought the conceive plus gel so will try these this month. A short break on a canal boat should distract from the interminable two week wait (we live in Europe so a quite different situation to those in UK). And if AF arrives we have a fortnight on the french coast with the kids to cheer me up at the start of September.

Wishing everyone a lovely weekend

@lucieloos it is still v early- you may not even have implanted yet. I know you know your cycle but things can change? Have you spoken to a specialist about when to stop progesterone? I don't know how that all works.
When we started in May I said I would give it until November due to schools/age gap, also means I would still be age 40 when giving birth which can make a small difference in stats. 🤷🏻‍♀️
Feeling ok today- have decided to avoid tampons this month as apparently they can make AF last a bit longer. Enjoyed some wine last night though and one extra caffeinated cuppa 😁 Hope everyone has a nice weekend ahead! x

@lastditchattempt20 I just know how it works I've watched my babies grow from conception. I've got pictures of them at 5dpo. I know when they were back in my body and when implantation happened and how it felt. I know when it's meant to happen and that implantation past about 14dpo rarely leads to good things. Sorry I don't want to sound like I know everything but I've spent so long doing these 13 rounds of ivf that I do know my body and the timing of things. I've used the progesterone with every cycle and have had advice from consultants for years.

I always said I wouldn't have another after 40 too but here I am just turned 41 and trying. Enjoy the wine and caffeine 😊

@lastditchattempt20 funny you should say about tampons I think the opposite. I think it makes it go quicker like it absorbs it up.
Hope your OK xx

@Hayleywoody82 Maybe! 🤷🏻‍♀️ Mine are so heavy and full of clots anyway that tampons just cause more hassle! 🙈
@lucieloos crossing my fingers that next cycle will be it for us! 🤞🏻☺️

@pirateweasel hope you're ok this morning? ☺️

@lucieloos I think I’ll ttc for a year max- maybe if it is getting too much. When it goes on so long it robs you of normal life and I don’t want to do that for a prolonged period as I feel it impacts emotionally and on relationships. For me anyway. We have always said we will try for a while and if nothing happens we will move forward with our other goal sooner of nice new house and get 2 dogs. Of course that’s not the same as having a baby together but we have to remain realistic and we have my two boys that we are so grateful for. Dp is fab he genuinely seems happy with whatever happens but I do feel he would love us to have a baby together. What will be, will be. We can’t do anything more than we are doing so if it doesn’t happen it’s not meant to be.

I hate the 2ww. Only 5dpo and v little chance of anything this month but it's already driving me nuts waiting.

So as well as a bfn this mor OMG I’ve started spotting. Hoping it’s implantation and not af given oNly 8 dpo and not due until 12 July but I Spotted for 5 days before af last cycle 😢😢

So those that are trying for siblings and will give it a set time to see if it works if it doesn't then work how will you move forward with that? Is it just a case of what will be will be or will it take some time to get used to? I'm just asking as I'm not sure when we will stop and if we do and it hasn't worked I'm not sure how to move on from that as I will feel quite down and think I will always miss that third and final one.

@lucieloos I understand how you feel. I don’t have children as my last pregnancy resulted in a MMC, but yesterday despite always holding onto the dream of being a mother, I said that I was going to stop trying. I felt so deflated. This morning I POAS as per, and finally got the peak result that I thought wouldn’t happen. This has given me the much needed motivation to carry on.
We’ve decided to wait to see what happens this month, then to have a private consultation after that if it doesn’t’ work. It would be silly not to. We want children (esp me, of course) and we have the money. So rather than be resentful about having to spend it on something that may be free for others, we’re just going to use it to get the expert help that we need. I pray that it doesn’t come to that though. I really would like to conceive naturally and carry our baby to term. At this point I would feel truly blessed just to have one child.
So I’m not yet ready to give up. It doesn’t sound like you’re quite ready either.
Wishing you all the best!

@lucieloos I think having a back up plan without a 3rd child is crucial. I have two boys and I am grateful for that. A 3rd would be perfect especially as dp does not have any bio children. But.. we have set goals for if it doesn’t happen- we will have more money to travel so will book lots of amazing holidays, we will buy a new house one we probably couldn’t afford with another child care bill and we will get dogs and will focus on my two boys making sure they have everything that will give them a happy and healthy life. One day we will be grandparents and we can enjoy that time so much appreciating the time spent with grandchildren. I think future goals if it doesn’t happen is so important and keeps me sane (ish). If I just focus on wanting this and nothing else- if it doesn’t happen it will be too devastating and will impact my quality of life. I’ve done that before when ttc ds2 and I’m not doing that again. Life is for living, children are absolute blessings and you have 2 beautiful children to focus on. It’s important to focus on what you have rather than don’t have to get through this and not let it affect the relationships you already have in your life. That’s my view anyway - tell me to fek off if you like 😅 but just how I get through it. I know that doesn’t work for everyone. X

@lucieloos I suspect we will only try until I am 43. It takes over your life whether you intend to allow it or not. I see so many people not drinking or exercising during the tww but that equals a long time of not doing things you want to do over the space of however many months.

I also don't really want to be in my mid-40s pregnant. That's just personal choice with no judgement for those who are.

@claireb707 hey 👋🏼 the progesterone cream I used is this - it's actually made from yams, so more gentle than the suppositories. I apply 4 days after ovulation to neck after I shower and before bed. A 50p sized amount. Not sure if it's this or something else I am doing but seeing higher temps in luteal phase this month - say .2-3 higher - mine were a little flat before x

Wild Yams Cream extra strong 100ml - 80% yam root extract - 64% diosgenin - for hormone fluctuations https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B017HLXXUI/ref=cmswwrcppapiii_A4gaFbR3FGXD9

I also don't know how I'll come to terms with it. I want it a lot and I think being surrounded by people who are young enough to go on and have babies will be difficult for me. But I also can't put my life on hold and have a constant feeling of disappointment and hope. I found AF arriving last month much harder than I expected after seeing a very faint line on a test. It surprised me how upset I was. Stopping trying wouldn't be easy.

I also don't know how I'll come to terms with it. I want it a lot and I think being surrounded by people who are young enough to go on and have babies will be difficult for me. But I also can't put my life on hold and have a constant feeling of disappointment and hope. I found AF arriving last month much harder than I expected after seeing a very faint line on a test. It surprised me how upset I was. Stopping trying wouldn't be easy.

@funtryin41 hey 👋🏼 I am also doing lots with diet, supplements and herbalism - sounds like we're doing some similar things. Do you take maca before ovulation? Do you find it helps with CM / libido?

I just started reading It Starts With An Egg and the list of supplements is eye-watering. I am 37 (38 this month!) ttc #1 and been trying for 5 cycles now. 10dpo.

I think I'll give the supplements the author suggests a go next month if AF comes. Right now I take Terra Nova Prenatal, Terra Nova B complex, Nordic Naturals Omega, Ubiquinol then schisandra berry and milk thistle to detox kidneys and liver. I also took some soya isoflavones (nature's clomid apparently) to promote
Oestrogen on CD 3-7 and am using some yam cream for progesterone. Plus some shatavari, amla, ashwanganda and maca in smoothies before and around ovulation for both me and partner. He is taking ashwanganda, D-aspartic acid, ubiquinol and Tribulus terrestris extract, zinc, vit d - all supposed to boost sperm quality and/or sex drive.

Been having some acupuncture and taking some additional Chinese herbs prescribed and following a ying/yang diet, lots of bone broth and yoga as much as i can.

It's fricking exhausting and expensive! But I am desperate to get my family started as no kids and really would like to have 2-3 if I can fit it in, but even 1 would be an amazing life changing miracle 🤞🏼

@Peaceandcalm, thank you! I agree--it is absolute crap to lose a pregnancy at any stage. I was only PG for about a week, so it was not as hard for me as it is for many others. At least it showed me that I can get PG though, which is great. It is such a pleasure to have found so many other ladies in similar situations!

For any BBT charters out there, I wonder: does your cover line change from month to month?

Good morning lovely ladies 🙂

I've probably ranted on before about my post-ovulation/pre-AF and sometimes post-coital spotting.

I've always wondered if it has something to do with hormone fluctuations as opposed to something sinister.

Found this interesting read on the Internet. Seems to fit for me. My mood at ovulation is great and comes crashing down right after with the oestrogen crash.

So I wonder if it's my hormones playing havoc, it does seem to make sense.

Coupled with the fact I have cervical erosion/ectropy, I'm almost bound to spot.

I'm about 7/8 dpo and noticed very slight spotting a few days ago, so could be too early to implant; and I guess the hormones from a successful implantation would stop the spotting or, implantation itself would cause spotting.

So basically I'm telling myself to stop ruling myself out every month until AF arrives!!

@farfromperfect82 wow, it sounds like you are already taking a lot of supplementstalk about eye watering LOL I started taking the maca about a week or so ago and I do think it upped my libido. It's not really a problem for me TBH, as the closer I get to 45 the more interested I seem to be in DTD! I def noticed a change in CM this cycle thoughthere is more of it (sorry if TMI)--and I think it was either the maca or the evening primrose oil or maybe both? I give maca to DH and he says he hasn't noticed any change, but I think he has been producing more semen.

I really want to take ashwaganda and vitex and would love to get my hands on some progesterone cream, but I am in the Caribbean and don't have easy access to a lot products (or amazon). I will order it delivered here if I have to. Has the ashwaganda made a difference? I also heard great things about the isoflavones. And acupuncture also...I suspect you will be getting your BFP very very soon!!! Many blessings and baby dust to you...*

P.S. @Peaceandcalm congrats on the OPK--enjoy doing it today!! ;) ;) :D :D