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Any buddies trying SMEP for the first time this cycle?

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HopeWish · 20/04/2020 14:19

Hello all!

I am 26, and trying for my first baby. I'm currently on CD4 of Cycle 3. After two cycles of only DTD a few times in fertile window and no result, DH and I are going to give the Sperm Meets Egg Plan a go this cycle.

For those who don't know, the plan goes like this:

-> From CD 8 DTD every other day until a positive OPK.

-> Start testing with OPKs daily from CD 10 (but I will be using earlier as O'd on CD11 last month!)

-> From positive OPK DTD on the day of the + OPK and two days after, then miss a day and DTD again the next day.

We will also be using pre-seed for the first time this month.

Is there anybody else who is doing SMEP this month? Or anybody who has tried it before successfully or unsuccessfully?

After the disappointment of AF arriving early, I'm excited to start a new cycle.

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Hoping41 · 26/06/2020 17:06

@seafrontsky very true. I feel much calmer this month. It's cd13 for me, I've had my lh surge this afternoon. We're dtd last night so we'll go a again tomorrow morning. I don't seem to have any ewcm though, despite glugging grapefruit juice. I've never checked before so maybe I never get it? My bbt was also odd this morning but hoping that was just off due to the heat.

Let's hope our calm outlook continues! I've finished work today for 6 weeks so I have no distractions!

VP91x · 26/06/2020 17:40

Hey ladies, little update from me
CD27 still no temp rise, and last month had 32day cycle. Today I decided to book with a private clinic to have an overall fertility assessment as worried that things aren't getting back on track after so long. Interestingly had a pretty dark OPK this afternoon, I did one randomly 🤷 last couple of days I've been having blood mixed with CM so no idea what's going on. Just waiting for this cycle to end really xx

Hoping41 · 26/06/2020 19:59

@vp91x could it be implantation? I'm sure you can have high opk when pregnant too? Fingers crossed for you!

AmesK · 26/06/2020 20:24

Hi everyone :)

Quick question, I have tried SMEP previously but not really worked so this month have just been aiming to BF every other day. However, after DTD on Saturday just gone, missed three days and didn’t BD again until Wednesday.
How much difference do you think that will make? I have no idea about when I ovulate as I have PCOS and temping, OPK’s etc have never worked for me :(

Thanks

serialplanner · 26/06/2020 23:27

@AmesK hey lovely - that's probably a bit impossible to answer. If you have no idea when you ovulated then fingers crossed when you did it was the right time🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽

Seafrontsky · 27/06/2020 08:39

I dont think I have much EWCM either @Hoping41. Not sure if that's the case or I'm just not very good at finding it! Hope all the BD was manageable for you in the heat. Keep on going with that calm approach. It's making things a hell of a lot less stressful from my side!

@VP91x that could be implantation no? Have you tested? Must be so tricky with feeling like things aren't normal for you. Tests sound like a good idea if you are worried. Hope you're doing ok, I admire your patience and attitude!

@AmesK I'm afraid I dont know! I think if you're DTD regularly you will hopefully have caught ovulation. Good luck with it all.

SmileyT · 27/06/2020 09:01

@Seafrontsky glad you are feeling positive 🙏 when are you expecting your surge?

@Hoping41 what were your temps like today? Mine has been all over the place no idea if it's because of the heat and a fair few wines on Thursday night 🥴 what are your plans in the 6 weeks? xx

@AmesK as the ladies said SMEP is all about regular sex and even with 3 days off you'd still hit your fertile week at some point, fingers crossed for you xx

Update from me... CD15 and temp randomly dropped this morning even though I thought I would've ovulated yesterday 😤 so I'm hoping we will get to DTD today, neither of us working and it's raining outside so 🤞 we'll get it done and pray for a temp rise tomorrow x

VP91x · 27/06/2020 09:02

@Seafrontsky @Hoping41 haven't tested but, I definitely haven't ovulated going by temps and been spotting for a few days now, which wouldn't make sense. I have my appt on Thursday which is good, I can start getting some answers or reassurance at least.

Hope you are both OK xx

Hoping41 · 27/06/2020 12:41

Sorry @VP91x, could it have been an anovulatory cycle? Apparently around 20% of cycles in healthy women are. I hope you get some answers from your test.

@Seafrontsky I am definitely going for the relaxed approach with OH. I haven’t yet mentioned fertile week and, I think, today is ov day. Behind the scenes I’ve been temping, castor oil packs, pomegranate juice, grapefruit juice, seed cycling, taking pregnacare and coQ10 and using a menstrual cup after dtd 😂😂 but he doesn’t need to know that! The result has been a much more relaxed and enjoyable time for us.

@SmileyT it’s your first month of bbt so I have nothing to compare it to but it was very high the other morning - I think because of the weather? I have no plans for the next 6 weeks! Normally I go abroad or take a yoga membership, I take on some child care for my sister and go visit friends. I can’t really do any of that so I shall have to get very interested in gardening or something!

Jilly1988 · 27/06/2020 13:18

How is everyone doing?

I’m on CD9 today. Quite enjoyed the first days of my cycle as it’s the only time I feel I’m completely relaxed and not thinking about it all. We didn’t manage to BD on CD8 yesterday and we were both so exhausted from a horrible nights sleep in the heat and a day of work so going to start today, hope it won’t make a difference and that I don’t ovulate so early at CD12 as I did last month. Added some B6 into my supplements this month as it’s supposed to help with progesterone and short luteal phase.

Seafrontsky · 27/06/2020 20:36

@SmileyT hope you got your BD wish today! I'm expecting LH peak Monday as think I'll probably ovulate tues or weds.

@Hoping41 it is hard when we just feel so responsible, and doing everything we can means a long list of stuff to do. If shielding OH helps keep things normal then that's a good route for you guys. My OH seems quite bemused but really interested so I've gone for the opposite approach. But I'm also trying not to get too caught up in it all. It's a fine balancing act!

@VP91x hope the tests give you some reassurance or direction. It must be very frustrating. But as @hoping41 says maybe it's just anovulatory month and others are fine. You know your body though so its good to listen to that if you feel somethings not right. Are you still BD every other day? I'd be exhausted by now!

@Jilly1988 all sounding positive there! I agree once I've dealt with the disappointment the first bit of the cycle is the best. I usually have a few drinks and eat what I want so that could be why!

VP91x · 27/06/2020 21:44

@Hoping41 @Seafrontsky yeah definitely anovulatory I think. This might be my third one since the MC. One of my cycles was 20 days which seems too short to ovulate. Another 24 days so fairly short but loads of spotting pre-AF and now this.

No, not DTD haha. I'm still spotting etc plus seems a bit pointless to keep trying. Next month will be out too as I'm having the tests so they say not to TTC that month apparently. Will double check though.

@Jilly1988 probably not much harm in missing CD8! You'll definitely be covered

@Hoping41 you've definitely got it all going on and you're fab at keeping it all from your partner 😂 xx

Hoping41 · 27/06/2020 22:16

Yes, we're having a much more relaxed month. It's all there for him to see, we're just not taking about it - I mean, surely he doesn't think I've drank 2 cartons of grapefruit juice for fun! 🥴
Last month was a total stress fest so I feel better. Not optimistic though which is odd as last month I really was. Who knows what I'll be like next month!

Now, I just need to find something to keep me busy for the tww. Sitting alone in the house every day with nothing to do will not make the time go fast!

SmileyT · 28/06/2020 09:20

@Hoping41 yes you just need to give yourself a project at home over the next few weeks, although with 6 weeks I'd definitely be tempted to take a cheeky trip somewhere 😎 are you officially 1dpo now? I'm going to tell myself that I'm 1dpo aswell so AF due on the 11th - as temp rise again today 🙏 will you still
test around the 9th July? x

Hi @Jilly1988 👋 yeah you can only do what you can did you manage to DTD yesterday? And will do every other day from then? Glad you enjoyed your first few days of cycle and now into the fun bit 😉 x

@Seafrontsky no BD for me yesterday, I had 2 naps in the day and just feeling really stressed with work (even though it's the weekend) and exhausted so didn't initiate anything and neither did he. He is at work all day today aswell but may DTD just for fun tonight anyway. This month we managed CD8,9,11,12,13,14 and now on CD16 and think I've ovulated, I didn't even tell DP I got a positive opk as after a few months of wanting all the data I think it was getting to him. If I have ovulated I've given myself a chance and none of it has been forced so that's good enough for me ☺️ yay to getting your peak over the next couple days and still enjoying all the BD ✌🏾 x

@serialplanner how are you feeling? Excited to test next week? x

serialplanner · 29/06/2020 09:14

Morning everyone

Wish you all a wonderful, positive and distracted from TWW week.

@VP91x it's nearly testing time. I think I am feeling the same as you expecting AF, but then I read online that you can feel exactly like PMS and still be pregnant which was probably silly of me to read. That's good you have an appointment this week gives you a focus. What is it just to get checked out generally for TTC?

I had a first response in my hand yesterday girls lol I nearly cracked but then I reminded myself a BFN is worse put it back.

@Jilly1988 that's good you are enjoying :) even if you do ovulate on CD12 it's okay if you have BD by CD10? Genuine question - I am still learning.

@SmileyT this sounds perfect 8/9/11/12/13 and 14 I am in awe! Fingers crossed for this month. It's so weird we used to be exactly the same I think because AF kept coming a couple of days early for me.

So the Clearblue app says my period is due Friday 3rd July so we'll see if AF lets me get to that date or turns up before. In my heart I know she's on her way but that's okay x

Hoping41 · 29/06/2020 11:03

@smileyt I'm not sure what day I am. It's my first month tempting and i don't seem to be very good at it. Femometer moved my ovulation today to make my 4dpo although i only had peak lh 3 days ago so should only be CD 2dpo. This morning I had ewcm so took another lh test which is showing high again. Very confusing.

I hope your 2ww goes smoothly and you stay busy. I normally go away but not really sure what's allowed atm. I'm in Scotland so we're a little behind in the rules. I think we're still at the 5 mile travel stage!

Hoping41 · 29/06/2020 11:05

Fingers crossed for you @serialplanner Im

VP91x · 29/06/2020 14:23

@serialplanner I'm pretty sure AF is here now, the spotting has turned more into a flow more like a period so today is probably CD1 which should hopefully coincide well with the tests.

Yeah so I'll have a few different bloods done for things then I go back and have a 3D ultrasound to check my uterus and a HyCoSy which is when they check your tubes for any blockages etc. Bit nervous for that one but I've read it can be crampy but not too painful so fingers crossed 🤞🤞

Your willpower is fab! I really hope you are PG. Its frustrating isn't it that the symptoms are all the same at this point nothing to distinguish xx

serialplanner · 29/06/2020 14:28

VP91x - 2nd July
Me - 3rd July
Smiley T and Hoping 41- 9th July (and Hoping 41?)
Seafrontsky -

serialplanner · 29/06/2020 14:28

Thanks @VP91x 🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽

SmileyT · 29/06/2020 19:14

@serialplanner ahh really hoping AF stays away for you and I do believe what you read as when I fell pg before the MC I wore a tampon for like 3 days when I was on holiday as I felt like it would start any minute 😂

@Hoping41 femometer is really annoying me at the moment, it put my ovulation at CD11 based on temps but wasn't in line with CM or lh tests so I just manually amended it 🤷🏾‍♀️ ahh think in England it's kinda over now, everyone is working from home but pretty much going about our business apart from that x

At least one of us deserve a cheeky BFP this month x

Seafrontsky · 29/06/2020 21:23

Sorry just catching up. 2 naps in one day @SmileyT I salute you! Sounds bliss and like you really needed it.

@Hoping41 that sounds very frustrating. I dont think you can be bad at temping! Just takes practice over a few cycles to know what's normal for you. 6 weeks to start a hobby sounds great. What are you thinking?

@serialplanner loving the positive vibes! I'll be testing if AF is late on 15th.

@VP91x sorry you think AF is here but pleased it works out for tests and you can move on to the next cycle. Hope tests are ok and thinking of you

serialplanner · 30/06/2020 09:01

Happy Tuesday all! Can't believe it's the end of June😱

VP91x - 2nd July
Me - 3rd July
Smiley T and Hoping 41- 9th July
Seafrontsky -15th July
Jilly1988 -

Seafrontsky · 30/06/2020 10:50

I know @serialplanner and where did the sunshine go!?!

How you doing today ladies. @Hoping41 what did your temps do this morning? Are you feeling better about everything?

VP91x · 30/06/2020 11:44

Hey ladies ❤️
Hope you are all okay?

I'm on CD2 now, AF yesterday afternoon. I had a consultation with my GP and unexpectedly she said she would refer me for the ultrasound so I decided to postpone the private tests for a month and try once more this cycle whilst waiting for the US. If I'm not lucky again or the US is going to be ages then I'll go ahead with the private tests.

So plan this month - trying soy isoflavones from Cd3-7 to try and bring ovulation forward. Use cheapies and temp/SMEP 😊

Hopefully I actually ovulate this month fingers crossed xx

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