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Conception

When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

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Clomid takers- September thread

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flosspot · 29/08/2007 14:36

Hello- We've moved to a new thread, and this is it!

Roll call, again:
flosspot CD4, 4th cycle, mc June ttc#1
nomore CD15 2nd cycle (21 total!) ttc #1
nh101 CD3 1st cycle, MC March

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nh101 · 19/09/2007 14:45

Thanks for taking the time to reply so thoroughly Attila. Fingers crossed I have OV'd.

Mowmi - have you been on Clomid already? it may be this is all you need if your non-ovulation is the cause of your problems.

Kerri1983 · 19/09/2007 15:34

If I don't get a BFP this cycle then I have been advised to get an xray of my tubes just to make sure they are ok.

Has anyone else had this done?

mowmi · 19/09/2007 19:14

thanks Nh, I'm sure you're right, just wasn't expecting DP to be a problem too!
hopefully he can make some improvements to push up his normality count.
To add insult to injury one of my best friends popped round for a cup of coffee earlier and told me she was pregnant - complete accident, not even trying!
Want to crack open a bottle of red but I'm doing weight watchers....oh life sucks sometimes!

mowmi · 19/09/2007 19:23

Sorry. that was a very selfish post.
hope you are not all feeling miserable like me tonight!
Kerry - no I've not had any x-rays, fingers crossed for that BFP

tigerschick · 19/09/2007 20:41

Hi ladies

Attila - You were the one who first put me on to the idea that I may have a fertility problem, so, thank you so much as there is now a lot being done to help. And thank you for your continued support and information.

I had blood tests done on a random day, as I said earlier. They tested 'all' my hormones. I say 'all' as I don't know for certain which ones were actually tested but I asked my gp about the LH v FSH thing and he said that looked fine, the only odd one was that I had slightly high levels of testosterone. The specialist (infertility nurse specialist, but am officially 'under' a consultant I've never seen) I am seeing didn't have a problem with these tests. But, as I understand it, PCOS is such that everyone shows different symptoms and odd blood results are only one of these. My scans show 'text book examples' of polycystic ovaries!

Hope everyone is well and happy, and keeping positive. BTW - please moan and rant as much as you like, that is what this thread is partly here for!!

Scorpio - how are you and your bean doing, lovey? Hope all is going very well for you, will email soon

AttilaTheMeerkat · 20/09/2007 08:05

Hi Kerri,

Re your comment:-
If I don't get a BFP this cycle then I have been advised to get an xray of my tubes just to make sure they are ok.

Has anyone else had this done?

Yes I have and its called a HSG. Its a tubal x-ray and its a useful test to have done. Deformities INSIDE the tube can only be seen on x-ray and this test can also give information not easily accessible by other methods.

You will be fully awake for this procedure and be lying flat. Basically a small quantity of clear dye will be injected very slowly through your cervix into your uterine cavity. The technician will then look at the screen and take an x-ray. They will also check to see if there are any blockages seen and whether your fallopian tubes are patent (open).

A speculum is used to pump the dye in very slowly. Sounds awful doesn't it but really it is not too bad at all. It should not be at all painful if the dye is injected slowly and with care.

I was given a couple of painkillers beforehand and was glad to take them. The dye does leak out afterwards so when you have this done take some sanitary protection with you. This should be provided in any case but it would not do any harm to bring along a pad of your own.

You should be given an idea of what they can see at the time.

Any other questions just ask.

Original poster

flosspot · 20/09/2007 10:12

BFN

Off to boil my head- it wil give me something else to focus on.

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MamaMaiasaura · 20/09/2007 10:36

sorry flosspot ((hugs)) x

nh101 · 20/09/2007 10:58

Mowmi - don't worry, this is the place to moan! To get DH's sperm count up, diet is so important (you know this already I am sure!).

I'd recommend Patrick Holford's book "Optimum Nutrition Before During and After Pregnancy" - there are sections on building super sperm and of course good nutrition for you.

At the very least, make sure you and he take a good multivitamin every day (with at least 15mg zinc) and take two 500g tablets of Vitamin C each day.

nh101 · 20/09/2007 10:59

for you floss. Take care of yourself x

nomoremagnolia · 20/09/2007 11:30

Hi attila - sorry to be picking your brains again (but you are the fountain of all ttc knowledge )

"You do not presumably have a diagnosis of the underlying problem yet they gave you clomid?. Why have they given you clomid?. It is usually given to women with ovulatory problems. I would talk to them at some length re this matter."
No - I don't have a diagnosis as such - just that I don't ov that's all. Had day 1/21 blood tests at GPs (just on one cycle though, which I was a bit about) then referred to hospital where I had internal scan to check for PCOS (my mistake with endo - doc said "there's nothing wrong - I assumed he meant no ttc prob at all but have not had a HSG - is that the right one, where they check tubes are clear?)

"If you're not being monitored now then that's another no no. Monitoring should be done throughout the months you are taking this otherwise there is no way of knowing whether its working or not. The dosage may need changing."
I know the doseage is working (am on 50 milligrams and had day 21 blood test in first clomid cycle which showed a level of 58) but what should I do to address the other concerns about monitoring? The doc at hospital just said to go back in 6 months if no luck. My gp is not particularly knowledgeable about this (she told me that LP was always 14 days - no more, no less) Do you have some 'official' information I can take to her to query this as I'm not sure saying "a stranger on an internet site told me" would hold much water with her (sorry)

"Clomid is not prescribed for endometriosis at all. Its usually diagnosed through a keyhole surgery op called a laparoscopy."
My mistake - see above

Thanks for all your help on this

nomoremagnolia · 20/09/2007 11:31

flosspot sorry

mowmi · 20/09/2007 13:05

Sorry Flosspot
Thanks everyone...I'm sure we'll get there eventually and DP's diet is pretty shocking so shouldn't be too hard to make improvements there.
I'm just so sick of all my friends getting pregnant within a couple of months of trying and all I can see is a long heartbreaking slog.
Sorry I am wallowing (still)

mowmi · 20/09/2007 13:06

thanks NH will surf Amazon tonight for that one.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 20/09/2007 13:09

Hi nomoremagnolia,

I would go all out to try and obtain a diagnosis even if it means changing GPs (frankly this GP sounds not all that helpful). Blood test results should ideally be seen by the subfertility team managing your treatment rather than the GP. I've got nothing against GPs whatsoever but this sort of thing is well beyond their remit. You're quite right; the HSG is the tubal x-ray to check whether the tubes are patent (open).

I would ask your GP if you can be referred to another subfertility unit you should be seen far more regularly than at six months if the drug treatment precribed have not worked. I would say to the GP that if monitoring is not done then how do you as the patient know whether its working or not?.

It is fair to say that some subfertility units are far better than others.

It does not look like she's going to go for anything online so instead I would go and have a look at the Health section in a bookshop. I would try and find books by Professor Robert Winston - he wrote one called "Infertility" and that might have something in it about luteal phase. If you can't find his book have a look at all the other subfertility titles there. LPD is something that not all gynaes agree about but even I know that its not always 14 days!. Think GP needs to update knowledge.

No worries whatsoever re endo and clomid. I only wish it could have helped me as an endo sufferer as well but it was surgery for me!!!.

You will need to be persistant in order to get answers, good luck!!

Attila x

AttilaTheMeerkat · 20/09/2007 13:10

Flosspot

Sorry to see that negative

tigerschick · 20/09/2007 14:45

Floss - sorry about your bfn.
Make sure you treat yourself to something nice tonight.

Kerri1983 · 20/09/2007 15:12

I am on CD29 now, how long would you ladies wait until you took a test? x

nh101 · 20/09/2007 15:20

Mowmi - you'd be surprised how much stuff there is you can do re. diet and nutrition (when I read the book I wondered how anyone ever got PG!)

My gynae (suuposed expert although not a fertility expert I suppose) also insisted that all luteal phases are 14 days! Doh.

nh101 · 20/09/2007 15:20

Kerri - take one tomorrow morning! I am only on 11 dpo and I'm taking one tomorrow.

Kerri1983 · 20/09/2007 15:31

Sorry nh what does dpo stand for? x

nh101 · 20/09/2007 15:52

DPO = day post ovulation. When was your period due?

nh101 · 20/09/2007 15:52

Sorry that should have been "days" post ovulation!

Kerri1983 · 20/09/2007 15:53

I was on the contraception pill for about 5 years and then never had a period without the use of progesterone, so I don't know how long a "normal" cycle would be.

mowmi · 20/09/2007 16:02

I'll be routing (not sure that's how you spell it?) for you both!
Fingers crossed for some positive news on here tomorrow!

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