TTC after pregnancy loss thread 31 - baby penguins are coming!

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Welcome to the 🐧 huddle. This is a wonderful supportive group for anyone TTC after the loss of a pregnancy or baby. Together we can get through he rollercoaster of TTC and get our baby penguins xx

@Lilimum7 that sounds really frustrating, I'm like you I need to plan so not knowing must be so hard. Can't believe about the meds either, so ridiculous! I had abs while pg with DS and I think it was amoxicillin - no issues with it.

@Squiff70 I hated telling people I was pg with DS, I only told DH and my parents for ages. What I told myself was that talking about it can't change the outcome, whatever happens was going to happen either way. Sorry about your dog too, that's a really tough time. My DM is a physio and she agreed that heavy lifting is damaging to you as a mother rather than to the baby - because you produce hormones to relax your muscles so if you push them too much you can do damage to yourself.

@Rumi1 welcome, sorry you find yourself here and sorry for your losses.

So I've had a tiny, v faint bfp this morning. Tested early because I need to start aspirin from bfp (although I have no faith in it after reading people here say it takes 6 weeks to work!). Don't feel optimistic as I had spotting yesterday and now can feel af like cramps building. I hate how stressful this all is!

Ah stressing now, just read the leaflet which comes with the aspirin and it says not to take if bfing which I still am. No idea what to do now!

@TubbyMcFatfuck I'm really sorry to hear your sad news. Give yourself plenty of time to heal. There are few ladies on this thread who sadly have had a tfmr so you will be well supported. Sending a penguin hug x
@Avocuddles well done for seeing your friend. I think it's much better that they are being open. I told my dh I felt sad that none of his friends reached out to me on social media after the second loss. They are good, kind people so the silence from them made it harder.
@Lilimum7 oh dear, really sorry. You've had a very rough time of it. Yes I took amoxicillin during pregnancy for a UTI. If you haven't ovulated you may get a breakthrough bleed (I had this), or your body may try to ovulate again then you'll go into another 2ww (I've also had this). It's so frustrating but now that they know they can start treating it. How are you today?
@Rumi1 welcome to our little group. Sorry to hear you recently suffered a loss, we are all here for you. It must be so raw right now. I hope your GP is reassuring. I also have had 2 miscarriages in a row but no children. It's so hard when it all goes wrong a second time xx

Sorry I have missed a few people, I hope you're all doing ok. I'm in a bit of a flap this morning. I'm 11 dpo and took an ic, and there is a faint line. I took a second one (with same fmu) and it's the same. I'm too scared to take the frer. Maybe the faint lines are in my head. I've been having period cramps and backache since 7 dpo which I've never had before. No spotting. DH and I yesterday were crying because we feel so alone with our journey. I'm also meant to contact the rmc as soon as I get a bfp, but I haven't had my test results back so no idea if I need treatment. Should I do the frer tomorrow morning?

@Navy123 ah, crossed post. Looks like we are in the same boat. I'm also taking the baby aspirin but recurrent miscarriage clinic told me to take it, even though I haven't been diagnosed with anything. It's probably fine. Sorry, what is bfing? Can you speak to a pharmacist or call your gp?

@Navy123 @mistymeow
I’ve got my fingers crossed for you. I took a FRER this morning and it showed a BFN - I should be 10dpo I think. Gutted.

Not sure about what to do about the baby aspirin and breast feeding. Can you ask a pharmacist. I also think La Leche and NCT may have information about safe drugs whilst breastfeeding.

@mistymeow I would definitely take another test tomorrow
Welcome @Rumi1 I’m so sorry for Your losses xx

@Mistymeow I always got good lines with second morning urine on a FRER!

Really hoping this is a positive for you. Keep us updated.

Sounds like good news for you two @Navy123 @Mistymeow 🤞

Is there someone you can call to ask about taking aspirin when breastfeeding Navy?

Mistymeow I think doing a FRER is a good idea but a faint line is a line 🤞

I’m about 11 DPO but haven’t tested yet

@Navy123 sorry I didn't see your post. I've got everything crossed for you too.

@ReeReeR hoping you get your BFP too, any symptoms?

I'm 9dpo today and not holding much hope for this month. We all seem to be close together.

@Mistymeow I got an ok line on a frer second morning urine early on. I would do that and if positive get onto the RMC. I was really worried about contacting them with an early positive but they were absolutely fine and said it was important meds kicked off straight away. 🤞for you

@Navy123 No advice on bfing- maybe talk to a pharmacist if you can't get into GP.

@Lilimum7 Sorry to hear you are having such a tough time. Glad antibiotics sorted and hope AF arrives imminently

@Squiff70 I think we are in a very similar place re pregnancy. It's hard after a loss - this is my 5th pregnancy with no children. Sorry hear about ur dog.

I am 6 weeks today based on lmp and being seen at EPAU on Wednesday which is starting to make me feel quite anxious. Deep breathes!

Baby dust to you all. X

Thank you so much everyone for your kind comments and thank you @Navy123 for confirming what @ReeReeR suggested re. heavy lifting.

Eeek @Mistymeow! A faint line is exciting - definitely do a FRER tomorrow and let us know!

Thanks everyone. I’m a bit 50-50 on those ic for early testing. They have a few scratches on them so I hope they’re not a faulty batch. I’m due af on Wednesday so I think I’ll try the frer tomorrow then I’ll know for certain.
@fnej01 thanks so much for the advice. Sorry you are anxious- I understand. Have everything crossed for Wednesday.

Good luck to everyone else in the 2ww. Is anyone else testing?

@Mistymeow fingers crossed for you.

I'm 9dpo and my plan says I have to test at 10dpo and if positive continue my meds. I've been using frers all weekend like a crazy person and they've all been negative. I'm not expecting anything to show tomorrow.

@Pop1234 The only thing that’s making me slightly hopeful is that I think I’d usually have PMT by now and I don’t seem to. My cycle is a bit irregular (it’s been 26-34 days) so this could just be a longer cycle. Otherwise I haven’t noticed any symptoms. How about you?

@Mistymeow I would usually wait to see if AF turns up but I have been tempted to test because I don’t have PMT yet.

Having said all that, when I got pregnant with my daughter, I’d felt like I’d had PMT for about 2 weeks by the time I got my BFP so who knows?! 🤷‍♀️

Hi everyone 👋 sorry I've been quiet. Thanks for asking after me @ReeReeR. Fingers crossed for you 🤞 this cycle. When I concieved I didn't have any symptoms at all.

Tentative congratulations to you @Mistymeow and @Navy123 😊 lovely news. Hope those faint lines get stronger for you both. Really hoping I can join your good news soon 🤞

@Lilimum7 I'm sorry you had difficult news, although am I right that you are allowed to ttc now when af arrives? I think that feeling of not being in control is so hard. We can't ttc next cycle as I've got the hysteroscopy. I do quite like not having to constantly think about it, although it's difficult to not worry about missing chances.

@fnej01 will be thinking of you on Wednesday, sending best wishes. Please let us know how you get on x

Sorry to hear you're struggling @Squiff70, I think that is completely understandable. Part of me feels I'd be excited to be pregnant again but the other part is petrified. Today you are pregnant 😊

Good luck for tomorrow's test @Pop1234 🍀

Sorry to the new ones who have recently joined us 💜💔 this thread has really helped me over the last few months.

I'm 8dpo today, my chart is looking fairly stable. I'm not going to test early because I don't believe it's worked this cycle, despite us giving ourselves the best possible chance. I've got reflexology on Wednesday so looking forward to seeing what her interpretation of my temps etc are.

Didn't attach my chart.

Oh, it has now!! 🤦‍♀️

@VenusStarr thank you. Good luck to you too. I'm not feeling to hopeful this cycle but we will see.

I have never done temping before. What do temps mean in terms of AF/BFP?

@ReeReeR I don't really have any symptoms and with all my 4 miscarriages I've had lots of symptoms before testing. So I think I am out for this month. Going to try and resist the urge to test when I get home tonight and just wait till tomorrow morning. Are you going to try and wait to see if AF shows up?

@Mistymeow nice to have someone in the same situation! I used an ic this morning too, will probably use one again tomorrow and then frer on weds if still no sign of af. Fingers crossed for you. How long have you been taking the aspirin for? I'm the same, no diagnosis of anything yet (no rmc appt yet either!) but advised just in case. Bfing is breastfeeding sorry!

Sorry for the bfn @Internetaddictgirl - could still be too early?

I've looked at la leche and a couple of other places which suggest the low dose of aspirin is probably ok while bfing as long as I don't feed for a couple of hours afterwards. One more thing to stress about though!

@ReeReeR I'm admiring your restraint re testing, 11dpo is as far as I ever manage to get before I cave!

@fnej01 everything crossed for you for Wednesday! Is the referral from the rmc? I'm cross I've still not been seen so I have no idea what I could be doing to help things this time.

Congratulations to those bfps ladies Fx for stronger lines in the next few days.

Well AF finally arrived. 3 days later than normal but now I have a time line for the progesterone test. My ovulation this cycle falls on the same day as my rmc appointment, do you think they might be able to do a scan for me to see if it happened or about to happen, though probably not its NHS!!

Thank you @Pop1234. The temps only mean something when af is due. If they stay high, above the red line that's a positive sign. If you have a dropping temperature then it's a sign that af will arrive.

I'm hoping my reflexologist will be able to tell me more on Wednesday. She asked me to keep track, so there's something she wants to see. I'll feedback if she has any interesting insights :)

@VenusStarr it this a typical chart for you. My charts seem similar to yours with post ovulation temps around the same.
My chart seems to show ovulation and temp shift the second half of the cycle but a blood test said no ovulation I'm super confused. My AF showed up about 11.45pm thought it would be a really long cycle for a minute there but no.

Thanks for the good wishes ladies @Navy123 @VenusStarr @Mistymeow.

@VenusStarr chart looks good so far.

@Lilimum7 is it your first RMC appt? Have you had bloods and a scan? Some of them do them at first appointment and so would be able to tell you what they see. They normally confirm where you think you are in your cycle versus what they see.

@fnej01 no this is the 2nd one, should be getting test results. Have not been offered a scan so I might ask for one. I know there's loads I should be asking for but I don't know what. Any advice would be great

@Lilimum7 what day did you have the blood test? I've only just started this cycle. I did it for 2 cycles last year but there was no pattern - I had only been off the pill for 5 months then so wonder if my cycle was still settling then.

Thank you @fnej01 🤞

@Lilimum7 I had a scan just to check for anatomy ie shape of uterus, no fibroids etc. They can also see thickness of lining and ovulation. Not a pleasant experience but as I asked they talked me through that everything was fine there and then, so reassuring.

Other question I asked was about research trials, and tests for DH. As a result DH signed up for a research trial to look at sperm.

My local RMC also made me go to the gp for a cervical swab so they could be sure no infection.

If there are no problems found on your bloods I would definitely have a conversation on their view about progesterone and aspirin for future pregnancies.. This seems to vary by consultant. Also confirm the process when you fall pregnant again. What is your follow up etc? If you have another miscarriage where would you go from there? I had all of this prepped as a list of questions for RMC. They loved me 😂 but it did calm my anxiety x