TTC after pregnancy loss thread 31 - baby penguins are coming!

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Welcome to the 🐧 huddle. This is a wonderful supportive group for anyone TTC after the loss of a pregnancy or baby. Together we can get through he rollercoaster of TTC and get our baby penguins xx

@pinkoihi my chart looks very much like yours low post ovulation temps. I think my ovulation is all wrong though because I didn't sleep well on cd10 which means I got a temp rise before I even got a positive opk (not possible lol) I think I ovulated cd11 or 12 if I did at all

Opp @pinkoi forgot the chart

Hi everyone, just checking in. Cd4 now. Have been proactive by contacting a local fertility reflexologist. She recommends measuring bbt daily, so going to start that this cycle, along with smep and opks.

Not really sure how I'm feeling about everything, erring on negative because I have no evidence that anything will be different. The only thing I can do is be proactive. Just waiting to hear back about an appointment.

Your chart is looking very positive @pinkoi :) 🤞

Glad ov has been confirmed for you @Lilimum7

Hope everyone else is OK xx

@Lilimum7
Yeh I see what you mean. Without my positive opk FF's magic puts my ovulation where the 6dpo dip is, but I had all the secondary signs that tie in with the opk and what is shown on the chart now. Every example chart I see has massive range pre and post OV. I can only assume that is why I have another rise after 6dpo.

I did have one random high temp but that was the day I knocked the thermometer out of bed and had to get down on the floor to get it again!!

I'm finding that the extra info from temping is actually quite reassuring, I thought it would make me more anxious! Xxx

@pinkoi I'm finding the opposite. According to Dr Google my low temps say I have not ovulated or I have low progesterone both of which are bad. I've got a progesterone blood test at 7dpo and if that comes bad fine I'm going to quit temping because it's causing me so much stress

I found it stressful @Lilimum7. Only did it for a couple of months but remember being in tears when I didn't get confirmed ovulation as had a slow temperature rise and no definite jump. It was about a year ago and dh said I should stop. Not sure how he'll feel about me starting again but if I'm being guided through with the reflexologist I think that will help. She's offered me an appointment on 31 July. Just waiting for my manager to confirm I can book the day off (also got my counselling that day so might as well take the day).

Awww @Lilimum7 sorry to hear this is causing you extra stress.

It was my understanding that as long as you can see a number of lower temperatures at the start of your cycle and some higher ones later, that was enough? I used this blog to remind me www.lifewithgremlins.com/chart-basal-body-temperature/

I thought cycles where you don't ovulate had much more erratic temperatures?

I guess there isn't much longer to wait until your progesterone test and then you know where you are.
Take care of yourself xxx

@Lilimum7 I have been doing my bbt now for years and they have been up the shoot since my MC. Last month FF gave me cross hairs and said I ovulated even though my temps were low, if I went by symptoms instead it made O three days later and I probably missed my window (even though my opk went negative after the very small rise). My AF was a bit late too. This month I plan on being very active maybe for a whole week after what I think is OV as I've lost faith a bit!

Just really wanted to say you are not alone! I hope your test proves all is ok

Hi ladies. Still lurking. Thought I'd bet post link to the new grads thread in case you're looking to join us very very very soon (or to lurk in return). 🤞 we'll see you all over there soon.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/3636872-The-Graduates-of-TTC-after-pregnancy-loss-thread-2-The-Penguin-Huddle?pg=1&order=

@Russkispy any more news on HCG? Really hoping this is your rainbow in there.

@Lilimum7 keeping fx this cycle will be your sticky BFP, sounds like you DTD plenty when you needed to. Don't forget that the sperm can survive for up to 5 days inside you and I read it's supposed to be good if they're waiting in your tubes ready for the egg to be released.

@AliceRR hope you're well.

Hi to everyone else too. Sorry not to mention everyone x

Thanks everyone for the good wishes - you're all really kind. I'll almost certainly still lurk about to hear how you're all getting on and to root for you all (especially now I know @avocuddles is a fellow GoT fan, we can lament the disappointing last season together! Very jealous of your tour). Hope to see you all on the other side really, really soon x

Hi all

@Lilimum7 It’s hard to know sometimes. J don’t record BBT but if I had two days positive OPK I would assume I ov after the second one around 12-24 hours later. It’s a guess of course but I usually assume I ov the day after and obviously dtd as much as I can after that.

@InDreamland Thanks for asking after me (I have name changed). I’m doing ok thanks. Not been sleeping great so feeling crap as a result, having tiffs either DH and then not sleeping / feeling worse! We’re still doing work to the house and I’m finding the mess and disorder stressful too. I’m ok though and due to ov soon so hoping this might be our cycle.

How are you doing? Are you feeling any less anxious? xx

@DuvetCaterpillar daft question lol what is Got?
@InDreamland good to hear from you hun, I'm afraid I'm stalking the graduation thread, I've been on this journey with some of you for so long that I enjoy your updates and loved looking at the pictures (think I might be a bit creepy lol)
@Kayjay2018 thank you hun I hope this is your cycle too Fx xx
@VenusStarr I hope temping goes better for you this time. You've hit the nail on the head when you mentioned tears and the stress sounds just like me too. It's a shame there's no stick we can pee on after we think we ovulated that just says yes you did or no you didn't ovulate. If some one could invent that they would make a fortune in the ttc community lol.
@pinkoi I think FF is an amazing app if you are text book lol I also use premom with easy@home ovulation tests Im in love with this app at the moment?

Thanks for all your kind words and positive advice ladies, it doesn't feel so lonely when I've got somewhere safe to come and let it all out. So thank you for being there for me xx

@ReeReeR thanks hun I think that makes sense only problem is that would make it the only day we didn't dtd typical my luck lol

@Lilimum7 I think GOT = Game of Thrones! Yes but it’s not just dtd on the day that counts. I’m sure I’ve read that your best chance is a couple of days before so not doing it on the day shouldn’t be an issue if you did the bd on the days leading up to it.

I’ve been so stressed and tired this week and then get scared it’ll affect my chances this month but need to just stop stressing and get on with it as most of us get stressed and tired and argue with our husbands and worry about TTC don’t we? 👍 xx

We definitely do @ReeReeR! Poor dh has beared the brunt of my bad mood this weekend. He even commented that I was scowling as I got into bed last night 😔 it's been a long time that I've been this grumpy. I've mostly been emotional and sad, so to be irritable and snappy isn't a nice change. I was trying to pick a fight yesterday, he wasn't having any of it though. Sorry you've got some upheaval with the house. We had a good declutter this weekend and that's been helpful.

@Lilimum7 I distinctly remember sobbing on dh's chest that I was barren and he should leave me to find a wife who would give him a child 😔 I'm not usually over dramatic. That was nearly a year ago now...

Congratulations @DuvetCaterpillar :)

@InDreamland wishing you the best for tomorrow. I also have been hovering over the other thread to keep up :)

@ReeReeR glad you're doing okay but sorry that you're having trouble sleeping. It's a shit time isn't it TTC and having that stress with work doing in the house doesn't help. Hopefully though this will still be your month. Keeping 🤞 for you. Thanks for asking, TBH I'm a bag of nerves and anxiety at the moment still. That's our reality though after losing 2 pregnancies. One day at a time is all I can do. Tomorrow is the first anniversary of passing baby#1 and is also due date of baby#2. So I'm really not in a good place mentally ........ suspect we'll also find out that we've lost this one too tomorrow.

@Lilimum7 lurk away lol, hopefully you'll not have to lurk much longer. It's not creepy, that's why I still pop on here a little, I still feel invested in those who I've been on this journey with since I joined in July last year. Really want to see you all on the grads thread .......... I'm also preparing myself to be a permanent feature here again. Negative I know but I can't feel good about this one. I think GOT is Game of Thrones (I don't watch it though).

@VenusStarr thank you. You're not alone in saying that to DH, I've said the same to mine many times - said to go find someone who can give him what he wants as I felt so inadequate. What we've been through can really mess with our heads can't it.

@InDreamland I've done 2 sets of HCG bloods and starting progesterone pills tonight. Booking an early scan for the end of the month when I'll be around 7 weeks. Still no symptoms here. Hope your scan tomorrow goes well! Everything crossed for you!
@DuvetCaterpillar tentative congratulations! Fingers crossed!

@VenusStarr I too have said that and have sat on the shower and cried that he should leave me and that was only 2 cycles ago.
@ReeReeR hope that's true for me and my poor husband has to put up with alot from me too and sometimes I cause an argument just so I can shout about the unfairness of it all and then I shout at him for not leaving me and then cry for an hour. The emotions of ttc don't make any sense, look after yourself x
@Indreamland Fx for good outcomes tomorrow xx

Yes, sorry, GoT is Game of Thrones - DH and I both a little obsessed, it's quite good for taking your mind off things.

Thinking of you and your little ones tomorrow @InDreamland, especially on such a tough anniversary. Whatever happens, will happen, but I really hope things go well tomorrow.

@VenusStarr, if it's any consolation, I had that exact same sobbing fit on DH a couple of months ago. I think it's a very human, natural response - I know my DH would be such a wonderful father, and I feel so much like I'm letting him down, even though he flatly contradicts any such suggestions I might make. I'm still terrified I'm going to screw this up somehow, this little line, this little life feels so precarious. Hopefully things will go better this time.

Oops not on the shower in the shower. I must spell check before I hit post in future lol

Glad it's not just me who has told DH to go and find someone with a better womb!!

Tying myself in knots about ov this month...glow says I will ov tomorrow, ovia says Friday. BUT I had ewcm the last couple of days and it's gone today so now I have no idea what's going on. Definitely getting some ov sticks for next month, I said I wouldn't this time (being "relaxed" ha) but I can't not.

@Russkispy that sounds positive. Keeping fingers and toes crossed for you! I'm now wishing I was brave enough to request progesterone. Too late now though.

@Lilimum7 @DuvetCaterpillar thank you x

@InDreamland progesterone was left over from my last IVF. My doc always prescribed it. But this time around is a smaller dose as she said my progesterone levels are good. Despite this pregnancy being natural, my fertility doc still looks after me which I'm forever grateful. We're just hoping this is our rainbow! Keep us posted on your scan tomorrow 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

Evening all lots of updates today!

@InDreamland hope everything goes well tomorrow. We are all rooting for you!

@VenusStarr @Lilimum7 @DuvetCaterpillar I've also had several 'why don't you go find someone ten years younger...' conversations. DH is adamant that all he wants is me but he is so good with all of our friends little ones and I know he would make an amazing dad so I hate the thought of depriving him of that opportunity. I've supported him through some serious health issues whilst we've been together (he had a heart attack at just 33 though thankfully is in good health now) so I do believe him when he says that being happy and healthy is all that matters, but I still really really wish that I could give him a baby.

Ps to those of you who are Game of Thrones virgins, I highly suggest getting involved! It's a great distraction from reality....