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Trying to Concieve 10 ... the LUCKY thread!

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BeckiF · 15/09/2004 14:14

OK ladies .... here we are. Forgive my upset and tears, just struggling at the moment. Another bfn this morning

Anyway ... we MUST have gradulates beofre Christmas and one of them HAS to be me!!

OP posts:
Cobweb · 28/09/2004 14:35

Sweetheart sorry to hear about your appointment being cancelled, but am pleased that you were able to get through and hopefully be able to get a cancellation or something.

Lots of hugs to anyone else feeling down in the dumps.

I should be on cloud 9 but won't let myself as I keep getting pains on my left side, which Mirage said could be a cyst, but I keep fearing the worse.

Love Cobweb xxx

Bibi20 · 28/09/2004 14:47

If you look at the chart gallery on the fertilityfriend.com site they have loads of pregnancy charts for people without eggwhite cm - so it's obviously not essential.

Think it's just one of those things that improves chances of conception and helps you know when you are close to Ov'ing...

sweetheart · 28/09/2004 14:48

Thanks Cobweb - I hope everything works out oK for you. ((((hugs))))

Hulababy · 28/09/2004 14:57

Was going to answer your question Tessiebear - but it's already been done very well

Forgot to take temp this morning, but prettyy sure I must have OV'd now after 2 higher temps. So the waiting game for me now...

krocket · 28/09/2004 15:00

ah that's nice of you to remember me minnie, yes still here, CD14 but we've been woeful with the BD (only CD9) so not holding out much hope. TBH have been feeling fed up with it all and trying to be more relaxed about it (yeah right)

sweetheart · 28/09/2004 15:51

OK, as a positive guesture to cheer myself up I have just ordered 20 ovulation tests from Medisave. I have put off ordering them before now as I didn't want to waste money (I kept thinking I wouldn't need them as each month have been hoping for a BFP)

So, as my gyne appointment has been cancelled, I've decided to take matter into my own hands and I WILL bloody bd on the right day this time!!!!

Well, it's making me feel better knowing I have done something productive anyway

MINNIE1 · 28/09/2004 15:54

krocket, good to hear from you... was fed up myself last month so i'm doing that "relax about TTC thing" Hope it works !!!! CD12 myself so bding every nite (poor DP) its a stressful buiness this TTC

MINNIE1 · 28/09/2004 15:55

sweetheart ,
You go girl!!!!

cp3 · 28/09/2004 17:05

Bd every day sweetheart, youll be knackered but at least you wont have missed your ovulation day, and your dh will have a permanant grin on his face

hester · 28/09/2004 17:37

Tessiebear - it's been answered but just because I'm feeling chatty ( ) I'll answer again. You get fertile CM before you ovulate, usually a couple of days before. It is usually the consistency of eggwhite but some women just get slightly more wet. It lasts from a couple of days before you ovulate (usually) until you have ovulated, when it changes quickly (goes thicker, creamier).

The important thing to remember is that you are fertile as soon as the fertile CM appears, even though you haven't yet ovulated. The fertile CM allows the sperm up into your womb, and once there it can live (up to a few days) until the egg appears. Once you have ovulated the mucus changes and sperm can no longer get through. So the thing to do is to start BDing as soon as you have fertile CM, and keep going until you ovulate. This is far more effective than waiting until you ovulate, because you then have a much shorter period of time to get the sperm up there before the mucus changes and keeps them out.

I haven't explained that very clearly - hope it doesn't confuse you further!

Tessiebear · 28/09/2004 18:06

that was great thanks Hester! I am on CD 13 and my CM has been thick and creamy suddenly for the last day or so - do you think i have already OVed, i dont think i have ever really had "egg White" consistency?!? ( i already have 2 DS's so i know i can get pg)

Tessiebear · 28/09/2004 18:08

Hester - can i add that i am trying (just for fun i dont mind either way really) to conceive a girl, so i worked on the theory that i probably ov on about CD14 and i BD'd up until CD11 then stopped - this whole CM thing is really confusing me though!?!

blueteddy · 28/09/2004 18:13

The stuff that you r looking 4 looks like egg white Tess & like Hester says, is the protien that keeps sperm alive 4 how ever long that they r supposed 2 live & helps them 2 swim 2 thier destination!
I have only now noticed it since dh's vasectomy, as I was always on the pill b4!
I would say that u probably still have it 2 come.
Look out 4 it!

Hulababy · 28/09/2004 18:35

Also bear in mind that not everyone gets the egg white CM; some people's most fertile CM is the very watery CM - after the creamy one.

This is from FF:

Cervical fluid is produced by your cervix as you approach ovulation due to increased estrogen. It flows from the cervix into the vagina where it can easily be observed. Your cervical fluid changes throughout your cycle, increasing in quantity and becoming more clear and stretchy as you get closer to ovulation. Noticing and recording these changes will help you better time intercourse and recognize your own fertility pattern.

In the most common pattern, cervical fluid starts out dry after your period and then gets sticky, then creamy, then wet and watery, becoming most like eggwhite as you get closer to ovulation. You may get different types of cervical fluid on the same day. Always record your most fertile cervical fluid to make sure that you do not miss a potentially fertile day.

Dry: Record your cervical fluid as "dry" if you have no cervical fluid present at all; if you notice no cervical fluid in your underwear; and if the outside of your vagina feels dry. You can expect to see dry days both before ovulation after your period and after ovulation. Record "dry" if you are not able to gather or see any cervical fluid, even if your vagina feels slightly moist inside.

Sticky: Record your cervical fluid as "sticky" if it is glue-like, gummy, stiff or crumbly and if it breaks easily and quickly and if it is not easily stretched. It will probably be yellowish or white, but could also be cloudy/clear. You may or may not see some sticky cervical fluid before and after ovulation.

Creamy: Record your cervical fluid as "creamy" if it is like hand lotion, white or yellow or cloudy/clear, like milk or cream, mayonnaise or like a flour/water solution. It may stretch slightly but not very much and break easily.

Watery: Enter "watery" if your cervical fluid is clear and most resembles water. It may be stretchy also. This cervical fluid is considered fertile and this may be your most fertile cervical fluid or you may get it before you get eggwhite cervical fluid or you may not get this type of fluid at all.

Eggwhite: This is your most fertile cervical fluid. Record "eggwhite" if your cervical fluid looks at all like real eggwhite, is stretchy and clear, or clear tinged with white, or even clear tinged with pink. It also resembles semen (and has a lot of the same physical properties to allow the sperm to travel and be nourished). You should be able to stretch it between your thumb and index finger.

Spotting: Record "spotting" when you have any pink or dark red/brown spots that leave a small mark on your underwear or pantyliner or that you only see when you wipe. If it does not require a pad or tampon, record it as spotting rather than menses. You may see spotting before or after your period, around the time of ovulation or around the time of implantation if you conceive. Do not start a new chart until you have red flow.

Menses: When you record "menses" you can choose light, normal and heavy. Always start a new chart on your first day of menses. That is the first day that you have red blood flow that requires a pad or tampon. This is cycle day one. Fertility Friend will automatically start a new chart for you when you enter menses.

Tessiebear · 28/09/2004 18:44

Thanks Hulababy - wow that must have taken you ages to type - this is a lot clearer now - i am thinking that i am possibly NOT near OV. Although it says that when you come off the pill you often dont get the "eggwhite" straight away

hester · 28/09/2004 18:46

Thanks for that, Hulababy. Tessiebear, I get watery CM and have never had eggwhite - it's important to know your own cycle, rather than worrying about what the textbooks call average. Sorry if you've written this already, but are you also monitoring your temperature and/or doing ovulation predictor sticks, or have you just worked out your likely OV through dates? I think you need at least two methods of monitoring your fertility (CM and temperature, or CM and predictor sticks), in addition to dates, in order to know what's going on.

Hark at me, talking like the big expert! So much easier in theory than in practice!

hester · 28/09/2004 18:47

Thanks for that, Hulababy. Tessiebear, I get watery CM and have never had eggwhite - it's important to know your own cycle, rather than worrying about what the textbooks call average. Sorry if you've written this already, but are you also monitoring your temperature and/or doing ovulation predictor sticks, or have you just worked out your likely OV through dates? I think you need at least two methods of monitoring your fertility (CM and temperature, or CM and predictor sticks), in addition to dates, in order to know what's going on.

Hark at me, talking like the big expert! So much easier in theory than in practice!

hester · 28/09/2004 18:48

Sorry about that - enjoying the sound of my own voice too much

Hulababy · 28/09/2004 20:04

Don't worry - I didn't type it; just copy and paste!

This first month I have found the monitoring of CM easier to fathom than the temping. The position and texture of cervix can be used too - not as simple tof igure as CM, but it is an obvious change.

Basically, at most fertile time your servix should be quite high (difficult to reach) and feel soft to touch. At least fertile it is low (easy to reach) and much firmer. Innbetween stages it is middle for both.

Hulababy · 28/09/2004 20:05

Oh, and this month I didn't really notice a great deal of nything resembling egg white - but the waterery CM was there - and pretty noticaable.

Tessiebear · 28/09/2004 20:27

Thanks sooo much Hester and Hulababy
Hester - this is my first month off the pill so i have decided to leave it to chance for a few months before i start doing the temperature thing.
Hulababy - what CD's did you get the watery CM

And ..... Does the CM go back to being thick/sticky after OV (I may have OVed last week and got my dates wrong and to be honest there were so many "swimmers" arount last week that i couldnt have told the difference IYKWIM )

Tessiebear · 28/09/2004 20:28

Oh, and thanks Bluetedds - just think - there is you all fertile and ready and your DH has gone and had the snip

Hulababy · 28/09/2004 20:43

Tessiebear - CD's 14-18 were classed as Waterery; didn't really notice egg white. As you may know this is my first month, after coming off the pill too.

If you e-mail me at claireandrich(at)beeb(dot)net, I'd be more than happy to give you the username/password of my Fertility Friend chart - so you can see how my month has gone so far. Although I did forgot to temp today. And you have to promise not to tell everyone where the BD's occur

Hulababy · 28/09/2004 20:44

I think after OV you can expect to get cramy, sticky and dry again.

Tessiebear · 28/09/2004 20:46

Of course not Hulababy - my lips are sealed - i will E-mail you 2morrow as DH wants to get on the computer now .....