The July 19ers - All aboard the rollercoaster for a 3rd lucky thread

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Oh yes I totally forgot about your scan Twittle, good luck today!

Happy Chinese New Year everyone! Even though I think only InDreamland celebrates (hope you're doing ok and having a nice day even if it is a quiet one). It's the year of the Earth Pig which will hopefully be an auspicious one for all of us. DH's grandma's wish for me and DH when she gave us our gifts was to bring a little piglet with us next year - I hope that happens for all of us! The piglet, not visiting DH's scary grandmother...

Happy CNY! My daughter is very excited about this as apparently they have a CNY celebration in school!

Fingers crossed for you today @TwittleBee and @tigsyboo

Btw has anyone had stretching crampy pains before in early pg. am still under 5 weeks and it feels weird in there!!

Good luck today @tigsyboo & @TwittleBee

@Kinsters that's so rubbish. It may be too early to test? Especially if you are always spotting. Keep testing 🤞🏼

Happy CNY! Let's all hope we have a piglet this time next year 😬

DH & I had yet another argument last night ffs. I don't know if it's hormonal but everything is just making me so angry. I've got from laid back Larry to bunny boiler in just a few months 🙁

Yeah, maybe I ovulated late and it's too early to test. Looking at my chart perhaps I might have been CD16 or CD17? In which case I'm probably out because of lack of BD'ing.

Sorry that you had another argument ratherbe. It's such a stressful time.

Morning all

Happy CNY! I love the piglet thing @Kinsters
I'm sorry about the test 😓 I hate that our bodies troll us like this. But it still could be too early!

Good luck for the scan @TwittleBee what time is it??

@tigsyboo I don't know anything about family courts but it sounds like things are in your favour, despite the amateur dramatics from the unhinged one.

@Pegase I hope your daughter enjoys the celebrations at school! I don't think mine celebrate it as we're in a very white (boringly uncultured with zero diversity) village. But I hope they prove me wrong!

@ratherbeshowjumping I'm so sorry you and DH are arguing. It's horrid isn't it. Can you chat about stuff tonight?

As for me, we'll I'm still on the ovulation talk I'm afraid. I'm bored going on about it so you guys must be so tired of it! Still, this is the only place I can talk about it.
So Ovusense has predicted my 'fertile window' (see pic). I kind of want to believe it given I've had two days of very strong +OPKs. Also my cervix is so high this morning I can't feel it.
What worries me is it has predicted for yesterday when we didn't have sex. We BD'd twice the day before (am and pm).
This morning I pre-seeded up and went into the bedroom and tried to wake DP but he was pretty much dead to the world and just woke briefly to tell me how sore his throat is . So I got dressed, said goodbye and wiped away all the pre seed and left the house.

DP is out tonight so unlikely to BD tonight, plus he will just get sicker, knowing him.
If Ovusense is correct then I can probably wave goodbye to any chance of conception this cycle. And we've had loads of sex up until now.
Aaarrgghhh. I want to cry so hard 😢

Maybe all the spotting has scuppered any chances anyway 😓

GONG HEY FAT CHOI! SUN NIEN FAI LOK!

Happy CNY ladies!

Sorry not been on for a few days. I've been so busy! It may be a quiet one but cooked up a massive reunion dinner for DH, my sister and BIL. Way too much food.

So much to catch up on. I'll have to have a read through everything I've missed.

Hope you're all well x

@Kinsters I crossed posts with you! I don't know about the dates on your chart as I'm still such a novice. But I'd be wondering the same as you what with all the symptoms.
I wish these things were easier to work out 😓

Happy CNY @InDreamland! 🐷 😃

Frazzle Yay for the Ov prediction and that is a sure temp rise just bloody hope it stays going up now! I wouldnt count yourself out at all btw! You DTD twice the day before Ov! That is perfect timing! Gives time for sperm to be there waiting at the ready and then bam! FX

Kin oh so frustrating for you BUT that your temps are still high and no spotting yet is positive and you could have only just rceently implanted. As for CD16/17 it could be the case you Ovd around then but still 4 days previous you DTD so still in for a slight chance? I honestly believe all symptoms in TWW to be either PMS or coincidence tbh though.

rather oh bless you both! it is a horrid time for you to be going through so no wonder you feel all grumpy. Just keep talking to each other and be open about how you feel, most likely because of all these TTC shit xx

Pegase Yes I have had them in each pregnancy. Horrid arent they! Make you proper worried. If you are worried or they get too painful it is worth getting them checked out by a Dr

InDreamland oo yum! Hope all the food will keep for you to enjoy as left overs!

And Happy CNY!

Bfn here too this morning & I wasn’t even going to test. I wish I hadn’t, I’m devastated. I can’t keep the tears back. I hate my life right now. Sorry for crappy post.
Good luck @Twittlebee and @Tigsyboo for today.x

Oh Rose I am so sorry

Bad luck @Rose68 that bfn staring back at you is soooooo bloody depressing isn't it 😪

We DTD with pre seed again last night, OPK still a strong this morning. Might leave it for tonight and then give it another go tomorrow, thoughts?

Looking forward to seeing how DH handles his cock up from yesterday. Basically, it's my birthday a week Saturday, my DSis will be away so she's booked us facials and a lovely lunch in one of my favourite hotel/restaurants this weekend. DH needs to have DS while I'm out enjoying a v rare treat. It's been in our shared calendar for weeks, but he just forgot. DHs work called and asked if he could cover someone else's shift this weekend and without checking or asking he just said yes. The reason that makes me so mad is because he always does it, just does his own thing without ever checking what's going on with the family, and he refuses to make any compromises when it comes to his work, if DS is sick it's always me who has to take a day off work, he would never take a day in a million years. The even more ridic thing is that I have a better job than him and I'm the breadwinner!!

Anyway back to this weekend, as far as I'm concerned, he fucked up so he should sort it out, right? He either needs to get back to his work and say 'sorry, I messed up, I'm not actually available' or he has to sort something for DS. At the moment, he's just saying to me 'whoops I forgot. Sorry about that' meaning I'll have to cancel my plans. I'm fucking fuming.

So sorry Rose that sucks. Sending virtual hugs to you

Twittle I think you're probably right re tww "pregnancy" symptoms. It's the lack of bleeding which is really unusual for me and properly got my hopes up. I guess it's normal for luteal phase to vary by a few days though and looking back my longest one was 14 days back when I first got my coil out so I probably need to wait till Saturday when I'm officially late.

Aww @Frazzlerock it made me really sad to see you pre-seeded up & he was dead to the world. That's the sort of thing that would have made me cry. Fingers crossed you've done enough, especially with preseed, sperm lasts much longer than we give it credit for xx

Happy CNY @InDreamland! Hope you had a lovely meal 😋

Sending lots of hugs to you @Rose68 xxx

Thanks everyone. I think it is this whole ttc business plus everyone & their dog (literally) being pg around me, coupled with the fact that this mc has made me feel like a failure. The more I think about it, the more I'm wondering if I have a type of PTSD from it... flooding in front of pg women in the day room, passing my baby in the hospital loos, not being offered anything more than paracetamol... it's all very traumatic.
The argument started last night as my laptop charger broke & I asked to use his laptop for work. I saved a document & saw a picture in the folder of his ex gf on a works trip in a bikini, titled "fit [exs name]." He manages her at work, which I've always found really uncomfortable, and a few times she's tried it on. I know the picture was from before we were together, but really struck a nerve. And as I'm writing this I realise how much of a basket case I sound.
Before the mc I would have never cared about this, as I felt really self assured. I honestly feel like it's made me lose every ounce of self confidence. That's mad isn't it?

That's so annoying Betty - it's definitely his screw up to fix!

Oh no @BettySwoll0cks that's shit!!! I'd be fuming. Hopefully he sorts it x

Oh fuck @Rose. Remind me how many dpo you are? Would it be worth you temping next cycle? I'm so so sorry, I can completely understand the tears. Any chance it is too early? I'm saying this as I can't remember how many dpo you are. Same to @Kinsters and all the symptoms. I wish i could wave a magic wand over all of us. Our bodies are such massive fuckers xxx

@Twittle Do you really think so? I just have no faith in my body any more and feel like if we don't BD on the day (and exact time!) of ov then I'm out and I can't even say to DP "oh I'm ovulating right now, so lets get on it!" as that would put pressure on him. Although hats off to him as I told him I got a + opk on Sunday and he 'obliged' twice on that day (on his call) which is a first since we met.
Trouble is he already thinks this temping business is a load of BS (like many of your DHs) so I can't very well say, "I think Sunday was wrong and I ov'd yesterday so lets go again". It will just strengthen his argument.
Maybe I can get him before he goes out tonight, or make him wake me up when he gets home tonight and we can try with drunk sperm

@Betty that is proper shit! He has got to take responsibility for this.

@Rather Same to you - That is proper shit! How would he feel if he used your laptop and there was a pic of your ex with the same title? I don't think you sound like a basketcase at all - but then I am one so best not to take advice from me
I have lost a huge amount of myself since our first loss. The person I am now is immensely different to the person you'd have met pre MC. As I've said before, I turned into an absolute mental case after losing our first two - but that was because DP pulled the plug on TTC ever again. I wouldn't be surprised if we are all experiencing PTSD to some degree since our last losses. Don't be so hard on yourself xx

It really angers me how so many DPs and Dhs think it is all a load of BS this OPK & Charting etc! My Dh doesnt like me doing it as it stresses me out during the TWW when I carry on temping but at least he actually believes it and listens! Its simple bloody biology! urgh!

Betty That is now him to sort out and I am fuming on your behalf. Do not budge on this. With DH I had a similar situation which I then made him sort childcare out for DS and actually in the long run it now means he takes a more even share of sorting out childcare for DS. So bloody pissed off on your behalf.

woah you do NOT sound like basket case rather !! blimey I would have had a full on fit and probably hurled his laptop out the house if I saw that (thankfully DH has no exes...)

Frazzle Yeah you are not out by a long shot. Sperm live for a good while up there, and SMEP is meant to be a good idea right? So you are certainly good to go! I actually always have liked to ensure we DTD before ovulation so I have lots of sperm up there ready and waiting! Feels too risky thinking about them on a timer trying to travel up there!

@Frazzlerock I completely agree with Twittle, I thought O-2 was supposed to be the most fertile day. So by the looks of it, you timed it just right 😬👍🏼

@TwittleBee @Frazzlerock oh good I'm glad you don't think I'm overreacting. I very much doubt he knew the picture was there, he rarely, rarely goes on his laptop & I don't think he harbours any sort of feelings for her, but how can that not be upsetting?!

No sign of any constipation (tmi, I'm sorry) which on my pg cycle I had on cd20 (which I'm on now) so I do believe I'm out this month & now even more upset.

Ffs. Would kill for a duvet day today 🤦🏽‍♀️

@ratherbe you are not overreacting at all. That would upset me so much. I don't really like the fact that my DH is friends with ex on facebook even though we have been together 10 years. In fact when I write that it does sound a little irrational.....

@Betty I do hope you stand your ground although I totally know how hard that is to do. My DH thinks everything he does is more important than me even though his job is half as stressful and he works shorter hours. Also, I organise everything - putting pictures up on the wall, paying bills etc. Man it makes me angry on your behalf. I hope he comes around.

@frazzle - I agree that two days before OV is meant to be the best. Although as my DH told me yesterday - you are not an expert on this TTC thing but you seem to think you have become one!! But with all the reading I have done, BD before OV = good stuff.

Happy Chinese New Year everyone but especially @kinsters and @indreamland. I went to acupuncture this morning with my Chinese doctors and felt really bad that they had to work. I only made the appointment as we have these extra two days off. Oh well, if it wasn't me, someone else would have been there.

also - sorry @rose68. That's crap. Big hugs.

Morning campers

Fell back asleep and now a lot to catch up on!!

Thank you all for your kind words - family law is such a bitch tho - everything is just 'balance of probabilities' so will she probably do the right thing??

@ratherbeshowjumping I would have had a right strop!! And I would have deleted the picture!!!

@Rose68 so sorry
It's horrid seeing the bfn. I cry too 😓

What is it with men and objecting to science??!!!

Good luck today @TwittleBee FX

@Kinsters I'm sure o-2 is prime time.
I don't tell DH anything about my temps etc now (although temps are all over place last few nights with broken sleep)

On a lighter note - I brought my CBFM and OPKs (and little wee pot) to hotel. DH has found them -I expected him to kick off... instead he just asked why I'd brought so many OPKs (about 6) I told him I just picked up a handful, but 2 a day is needed. He confirmed I had 2 spare and they were cheap. 2 mins later he comes back out having testing to see if he is ovulating!!! 😂 hes happy to see he's not!! 😂😂😂

oh my fucking god tigsy hahaha! least that must have lighten the mood up a bit there this morning! Brilliant he just couldnt resist POAS! Bet he would be a fellow POAS addict if he was female ey?!

Hahahahha! @Tigsy that is brilliant!