The July 19ers - STILL never beaten, and rocking our FJs for a lucky thread

[Frazzlerock]

Here it is! Our lucky one 🤞

That's shit Frazzle it's so mean how our bodies play tricks on us. I was quietly hopeful this cycle cause I had awful heartburn, was a bit gassy etc. but it was just pre-AF crap. For what it's worth your chart looked really stable and smooth which must be a good thing for the future.

I really don't know how to manage my period at work! Which sounds stupid but I haven't really had periods since I was 18. I've got a pad in my bra at the moment cause I'm wearing a dress without pockets. I don't know what other people do - just take your handbag to the loo? I don't want everyone to know I'm on my period (stupid as that is).

One more thing as I walk to the office bumping into people. How gorgeous does Tower Bridge look 💜

Beautiful!

No filter!

@Kinsters
I have reached the point in my life where I am bold as brass about everything, We are women and we have periods. Unless you have something wrong with you, or have been through the menopause then periods are a fact of life and the human race wouldn't continue without them.
We usually have stuff in the ladies loos, but typically they've always run out by the time my AF has arrived. So I just carry pad and tampon in my hand. I honestly don't give a shit. But it did take me a long time to get to this point in my life I have to say.
DP has helped with my attitude as he is the same with "gross" stuff - not phased whatsoever.
I do understand how you feel about it though, and remember feeling very much like you. You can easily hide tampons in your hand, and I bet no one watches you walk to the loo anyway so you may just be paranoid because you know. If that makes sense?

Right, I'm off to catch up with the rest of you now I have my (decaf) coffee and bowl of gluten free, sugar free, and fun free homemade muesli in front of me.

Oh @Frazzle I would have lost it at "flange" I'm very immature though. Tower Bridge looks gorgeous, that's a fantastic picture!

@Kinsters I know exactly what you mean but I think you're probably overthinking things slightly - no one is going to think "omg she's having a period" if you take your handbag to the loo. If you do feel self conscious, can you not pop a few pads in your bra and use those throughout the day?

Morning all! A lot to catch up on it seems!

edidxb Hope you plan yourself a proper day out for a belated birthday celebration, toast for dinner!!! Hope you don’t miss the fertile phase with DH away!

Rose so sorry AF has arrived so fricking shit. Hope the acupuncture helps you this cycle

Prosecco Gald to read you had a nice weekend of chilling, totally know what you mean about how nice it is just to have the house to yourself.

kin blurgh to AF arriving for you too! Hopefully this cycle makes a lot more bloomin sense for you! I’m pretty much “who cares, it’s a period” in regards to carrying pad into the toilet. I’ve been that way since I’ve leaked quite a few times, red patch clearly visible to all in the office and having to explain to my male manager why I need to go home to change.

Rather urgh! So annoying you forgot! Any chances you could hold it in for a few hours during the day and then test? Or you just gonna wait till tomorrow?

Frazzle oh FFS you too with AF! Sorry, but I would also fricking sniggle at Flange, never knew that haha. Beautiful view on way to work. Doesn’t make up for AF though.

So temp down again today…. Took another test and looks same as yesterday. Also had some spotting this morning but not sure if that was because we DTD last night… DH and I had a bit of a talk, he said he does want another baby, he is just scared about his job as another whole department got made redundant. He didn’t want to tell me as he knew it would worry me but its actually why he is so worried, he isn’t sure if we are financially stable enough yet.

I’ll phone the GP tomorrow, I have a half day so I can get over there in the afternoon to discuss whats happening

@edidxb How was your birthday in the end? And how do you feel about it now?

@twittle I'm so pleased DH was able to speak to you opening about things. It is a worry when there are redundancies. But yay, that he is still on board with TTC, even if not right away. This is going to sound REALLY patronising but time is on your side as you're still so young.

@rather I knew I was out as my cervix had dropped right down and become soft and was starting to open. But I did appreciate your positivity when I read it
I SO hope your body isn't playing tricks on you like mine did.
I'm so pleased to have a normal mouth again. My dry mouth, metal mouth, saliva excess has stopped overnight, like magic. It's quite a relief TBH. I love it when preg, but seems pointless to suffer all this when not! The nipple thing sounds promising! My boobs don't change whatsoever until about 6-7 weeks. Well done on coming second. Good boy LH! Give him a pat from Frazzle.
Oh and I'm so sorry to read about your loss with the coil complications. That really does sound horrid. I've never used the coil and had no idea of the issues around it.

@Rose68 Looks like I am right behind you. It sucks BUTT doesn't it. Is this your first AF since MC?

@tigsy Sorry I didn't get a chance to look at your chart yesterday. We had such a manic weekend which involved way too much sport spectating and I am not one for standing around in the cold. I wanted to catch up with everyone while watching but felt guilty for staring at my phone while I should have been watching the DS's in their matches, then DS2 doing his ballboy thing. Ugghh I really don't enjoy it at all.
Have I told you I hate football? Hahaha
Oh and DP with his tantrum on Sat, closely followed by my pre-period rage, I wasn't in any fit state to be helpful on here!
Anyway, how's it looking today?

@Buggles1 Where are you based? If in UK, you should get help after three MCs! You should have been referred to RMC after your third. This is what is happening with us now.

@Prosecco I haven't been able to watch Call the Midwife since our first loss nearly 3 years ago. It triggered me so much and just made me feel so shit, especially when DP refused to try for so long afterwards. I couldn't watch anything with babies or births or pregnancy in. Basically meant I had to hide in a cave for 2.5 years.
I still can't watch it now, despite TTC again. Anyone who has a baby in real life or fiction, just makes me want to scream and cry and stamp my feet.

@Kinsters, sorry you also find yourself back to a new cycle. Is this your first AF since MC?

I've just looked through FF and seen my old charts from when I was TTC DS2. One of my cycles was 97 days. Lols.
The cycle I got pregnant with him (beginning May 2008) reached 57 days before I tested, and ovulation was never detected by FF. Kinda makes me feel a bit grossed out looking at the times I BD'd with my ex!

I managed to get 'Shaft' and 'Nipple' into my engineering brief this morning (delivered to an audience of ~40 men). I once achieved 'little tit' (one of our aircraft had hit a bird - I was speculating as to the species) and was v proud of that. God these briefs are dull otherwise.

Hi all
@TwittleBee glad you're DP is back on board 👐🏻

@ProseccoBee sounds a lovely weekend

Boo to all the AF's!!! Evil witch!!!!

@frazzle this is my chart... I totally get not being in helpful mood.... sounds like most of my work days 😂😂

DH and I rocky again at the mo.
Lots of stress across all our life
Thinking of going back onto anti depressants... anyone know if any can be used while ttc / pregnancy?? My old ones can't be. Scared that they suppress sexual stuff and obvs that's not conducive.

@BettySwoll0cks that's hilarious.
My cousins & I play that game at family events when dealing with my uncle (their not-so-DSF). It never, ever gets old 😂

I'm WFH today & just thought fuck it, I'll do a test.
I think there's something very faint there. I'm 9dpo & it's 3rdMU so not reliable... will try again in the morning 🤞🏼

I'll make sure LH gets a big hug from you later @Frazzlerock

@TwittleBee no wonder your poor DH has been stressed! Xx

Morning @tigsy. Your chart looks like you've ov'd to me. How does Kinderly work? Will it put in lines for you once confirmed?

Not sure about starting ADs. I was on Fluoxetine (prozac) while in that dreaded black hole, but came off them when DP agreed to TTC again. I don't think they are advisable to take, but they say it is much better to be a happy healthy mummy. I don't think they have any evidence that they can cause problems in pregnancy but I think if you can do without them, it is better.
They really do suppress sex drive. At least they did for me, but I was so down that I didn't want to do anything anyway.
I found that they didn't really stop me being depressed, they just lessened most emotions. I don't know if I would take them again. I found what really worked for me was life coaching.
There is one guy you should look up. He's called Michael Neill and he has often worked with the guy who life coached me.
I'd recommend watching this. It won't directly relate to what you are experiencing, but I find it really helps when I'm feeling low.

@Betty that is brilliant And no way would I be able to say those words without snorting!

tigsy that is certainly a very good looking chart for Ov now! I found they really suppressed my sex drive too (thankfully turned out I wasnt depressed just majorly anxious and my anxiety meds dont effect my sex drive.) There is a website that is brilliant and giving it clear about drugs during pregnancy, cant bloody remember it now.... I'll have a think. Basically though, my consultant said that there are very few drugs that they can say certainly increases potential harm to baby during pregnancy but everyone likes to be super cautious. There is, however, research showing that an unhappy mother does increase chances of harm to baby, whether that is straight away or long term. It was what made me decide to stay on my anxiety drugs. You will get a lot of help with a consultant team and extra checks if you do go onto the meds and become pregnant.

Frazzle blimey! those were some loooong cycles! Interesting about how there was no clear Ov for the one you conceived on too! So how long does your LP look? Cant keep track.

Betty that is brilliant way to keep yourself entertained haha!

Rather so bloomin hopefully that is a line for you! FX for tomorrow morning!!!!!!!

@Frazzlerock thanks for that I'll watch it later

I have no idea how kindara works!!
I was using FF but changed bbt from f to c and ff wouldn't let me change mid cycle so I just had to find a free app.

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Looks like 12-14 days this cycle @Twittle. (depending on FF or Ouvsense) That's about spot on isn't it? Just want to get my Pre ov phase down! It was 32/34 days before I ov'd. Though I do realise that was post MC. But in total my cycle was 45 days which actually isn't that unusual for me. I wonder what this one will be...

Frazzle unfortunately the pre Ov bit is the bit that changes! Which is why I always think charting is only good for knowing how long before you can test rather than knowing when to DTD. I don't have PCOS but even my cycles vary by a good few days either side. Hopefully your PCOS is in remission, it can come and go cant it?

@betty hilarious! I'm not sure I can play that game in a school although I can in meetings.....
What a fantastic sunrise @frazzle. I love mornings, best time of the day. Sorry AF got you too. Hope it's not too heavy and awful.
@kinsters it can be tricky (again working in a school) so I put tampons and liners either up my sleeve or in my trouser waist or tucked in my pants. My other solution is to put them in my purse and just carry that to the loo as it's less obvious......
I'm not in the mood to work today. Tired from the 830pm finish last night and am here at an event from 6pm to 8pm tonight too.......

@ratherbe how exciting! We all have our fingers crossed for you.
@twittlebee hope you get to the GP.

@Kinsters a dress without pockets is tricky, I would just carry it in my hand I think (tampax compak) or tuck it up my sleeve if I had a sleeve, or trousers / skirt with little or no pockets I would tuck it in the waist band.

@Twittle good news about DH, but it he saying now or at some point in the future when things are a bit more stable?

@Frazzle this is my second AF since mc, my cycles are a bit shorter than yours. They were 26 days, which was lengthened slightly by acupuncture, but I think the dhea has shortened them again slightly, so back to 26 days this month. Lovely photo btw.

@Betty you make me laugh 😆

@Tigsy I’m sorry to hear you and DH are a bit rocky, we didn’t have a great weekend either. No dtd at all for us this w/e as Friday we weren’t talking, Sat he went out and last night AF was in full flow.

@Ratherbe ooooohhhhhh how exciting, can you upload a photo?

@Proseccobee that does sound like a lovely weekend! I wish I could watch call the midwife, but dh will never have it on. It would probably upset me at the moment anyway I guess.

I have just been for a long walk with a friend, and tomorrow I might try running. I haven’t been running since September because I read running is bad for ttc, and the month I dropped it was the month I conceived. But exercise is good for ttc, it’s all so confusing! The over 40 thread is telling me that tampons are bad for egg quality and ttc 😩

Haha OK, so I'm not totally weird for wanting to hide my sanpro! I wish I had the don't care attitude but I'm soo self conscious, it's silly really. I'm sure no one pays the slightest bit of attention!

Tigsy definitely looks like you ovulated! And your dtd timing looks good too so fingers crossed!

ratherbe ahhh that's exciting!

Frazzle I think it's normal for the pre o length to be longer after MC. I've been super regular up till now (24 or 25 day cycle) but this post MC one will probably end up being 30 (I think tomorrow will be CD1 cause spotting tailed off again, ergh).

Rose I've read that about tampons as well but no idea why. Inflammation maybe? I hate pads though. I tried a mooncup and couldn't get on with it - almost threw up trying to get it out!

Twittle that's good that DH shared those worries with you. At least now you know where his emotions are coming from. Good luck at the gp.

Google is telling me that your body absorbs chemicals from the tampon. I think I’m gonna stick with tampons for the first 24 hours or so, but then use pads. I did try pads last month at the start cause I wanted to see if my AF was going to be normal, but I only lasted an hour before sticking a tampon up there. I don’t think I’m brave enough to try a mooncup, and what if mooncups have chemicals in them too?

I have switched to TOTM sanpro (in Tesco or online ) as it is chemical free. Seems good so far- can't survive without using tampons!

@Twittle PCOS can improve. Mine definitely has the past 3 years.
I don't know why. I used to have very very long cycles right from my first AF aged about 14/15. I probably had about 3 AFs a year. Then just as I met my DP aged 36 I suddenly had mega short cycles, like 10-20 days. After a few of those, my cycles fixed themselves into 26-40 days. So much better than they were. I don't know what changed. But my periods became very very heavy from that moment onwards and I was then diagnosed with adenomyosis. So I have to wear tampons AND pads these days as well as taking tranaxamic acid to keep the flo down.
It's a nightmare but worth it for shorter cycles. I can't imagine having such long cycles now. I would go nuts while TTC.

@Kinsters how annoying you're having all this spotting.

@Rose68 I've not run since my preg cycle and I stopped at ovulation as I was so paranoid that if I got preg I would lose it by running. Fat lot of good that did eh! But I had somehow convinced myself that running had damaged my previous pregnancies.
To put my mind at rest, I have decided to stick to that and only do my exercise DVD and running before ovulation. I am sure I am bonkers but any excuse not to exercise .
I was going to run today, but tired now and hungry. Plus I did my DVD this morning so don't feel quite so bad. Tampons bad for egg quality, fuck me. Seems we have nothing left! I hate the idea of pads, though I always wear one too just in case. But I couldn't use one solely.
I have tried various shapes and sizes of cups too, but none work. They always leak no matter what I do.

@edidxb you must be on your knees woman!