TTC after recurrent miscarriage - thread 3

[Miami81]

Hi all. Sorry I hadn't realised other thread was full.
Have tagged who I can remember.
Please add people in.
@AnneLovesGilbert @Labmum @Hopefulforourrainbow @zarala

My stomach is pretty bad as well @AnneLovesGilbert DH can't watch me doing the jabs.
I've just read our pregnancy scan notes from Monday. Apparently baby is in right horn (which is where dd was) of my septate uterus. But the epu and my consultant have both said left horn and I have 'felt' pregnant in that side. So confused now. Scan again on Tuesday so will interrogate them then.

How are you finding it Miami? I'm so used to it now the jabbing itself doesn't bother me and only one in every handful really stings or bleeds but it looks so so ugly. I showed my mum a few weeks back and she burst into tears! There's something profoundly counterintuitive about jabbing anything into your belly when you're pregnant but it's probably one of the reasons I'm still pregnant so I'm cracking on!

That's very confusing. I'd be tempted to trust what they said to you and how you feel rather than what they wrote in your notes, so get them to confirm and change the notes if they're wrong.

I once had a full on argument with a GP who swore blind it was my right ear drum I'd busted as that's what my notes said, even though I was still partially deaf in my left ear. Apparently what the nurse had written trumped my actual physical pain and symptoms.

@Anne got on it last night haha and hopefully when we're away too 🙂 shouldn't feel self conscious about it, it's part of your journey on becoming a mummy 💓 xxxx

Christ they sting @AnneLovesGilbert sometimes I bottle it and have to move to a new point. I have bled a couple of times. But like you say I am keeping positive about it because if it is helping then who am I to argue.

That's the only way miami, I regularly try a couple of points then go with one which hurts less. I was thinking of starting on my thighs when I nearly ran out of non-bruised skin a few weeks back but he was adamant it had to be belly and the bruises calmed down anyway. Are you on them to term? And how about cyclogest? He last on Wednesday I'm staying on 5 a day till 26ish weeks then might be able to start weaning.

Good work laura! Hope you have an amazing trip.

You're right. If things carry on okay I might do one of those hippy bump painting sessions so for once my belly looks pretty rather than traumatised

I find they only sting occasionally and likewise I either get big bruises or nothing.
My consultant asked me this week what I wanted to do about the clexane and said it was my choice wether to carry on after 13 weeks. Wondered what other people had been told? Whilst I don’t enjoy it I don’t mind if there’s a point but equally if there isn’t then I guess worth stopping?

anne not suggesting you would go against their advice, however please don't be tempted to inject into your thigh, if any of the injection works its way into muscle, the pain is unspeakable. (speaking from experience)

Thank you @Anne! 🙂 I love the bump painting of bump 😘 xxxx

@Anne meant to say love the Idea of painting bump! Xx

@AnneLovesGilbert I'm ok to use mine either belly or thigh, but Christ the pain in the thigh is way worse. So belly it is for a while.
I am taking the heparin almost to term I think. Cyclogest maybe only to around 20 wks.
My issue with dd was so obviously placenta development related (large clumps of underdeveloped sections) that I think they want to support the blood supply to the placenta for as long as possible in this pregnancy. I am only on the cyclogest as a belt & braces thing and I think the consultant will be telling me I really don't need it anymore soon.

Ditch it when you can miami. I know it’s worth it and as no one knows why this one is sticking I’m just going with it all but doing it up the front and back and hating progesterone anyway it’s no barrel of chuckles. How’ve you been feeling in yourself?

Thigh sounds awful, ouch! Poor you irony

I have b12 stuck in my upper arm and that’s also worth it but it can ache like a bastard so I get the muscle thing.

Same bean, they take a couple of days to show up and I can never tell why it happens or doesn’t. How are you doing this week?

I’m definitely on aspirin and fragmin till 36 weeks so no choice and I suppose it depends on how easily or not it’s fitting into your life. It’s hard when you feel the meds are what’s working and the thought of stopping anything can be a bit nerve wracking. Not helpful if you're being given options but I’d ask what they think and if not stopping at 14 weeks then when, and why.

Is it always recommended after ivf or do you have reason to believe you’ve got a clotting issue?

I’ll let you know if I ever do it laura

Part of me, which always pictured floating through pregnancy bare foot, eating a lot of fruit salads or whatever and wearing flowers in my hair is having a mental episode about filling my system with endless chemicals and having SO much intervention. But we tried that route and the disappointment of losing my babies is greater than the loss of the hippy fantasy

So yay for drugs and scans and doctors, I know we have a lot to be thankful for and I’m trying not to hate the bruises and vegetable oil leaking onto my chubby thighs and the roid insomnia (now behind me!) and trying to go with the fucking flow a day at a time

Not specific to the ivf. It’s from the rmc clinic. My screens didn’t show a clotting issue but she thought my later mmc (13 is my weeks and baby dating 12 was odd so gave it me for that). I don’t really want to make the choice. I’m on aspirin because of previous pre eclampsia anyway Jon addition to the mc. I don’t know what to do.
I’m ok. Pretty sick and losing some weight but worth it as baby currently still in situ and growing. 9 and a half weeks now.

Hi Ladies,
I sent this through the other day, but not sure if it went through.
Sorry I've been MIA. We were on vacation and prior to that I was laid up with a stomach flu.
Welcome to the newcomers, though sorry for the circumstances that brought you here.
@miami and @anne congrats on your recent good scans! smile
I should be 10 weeks today. Our next appt with the midwife isn't until Sept. 18th and I've convinced myself the baby isn't viable because I had a fever when I had the stomach flu. I spoke with the midwives while I was sick and they had me take fever reducers as soon as I realized I had one. They didn't seem overly concerned, but I'm not really having pregnancy symptoms so I've convinced myself we'll have another mmc. They said I could go for a scan prior to the appointment but I've been holding out to make sure they'd be able to see something. I'm hoping for affirming news on Tues. It seems too much to get attached and hopeful.

@TaylsN hi there. In terms of symptoms I felt like mine went quiet for days before scans (and still do), it's like your brains and bodies extra little way of messing with your mind I think. The slam as soon as I have a good scan they all come rushing back. Scanxiety is real. Stay strong until Tuesday and I am hoping everything is progressing great for you. What stage were previous mc's at? Is there a gestation that you feel you need to get past?

@beanhunter if she wants to take you off the heparin make sure that you have a detailed chat about why. It's not doing any harm and if there is a chance that it is doing good then I would be wanting them to make the case for stopping it. I am on the heparin with no evidence of clotting issues in all my blood tests. My consultant has acknowledged that they keep finding new clotting things and that it is possible I have one that is untestable at the moment. With my history and evidence of problems with dd placenta they are happy to heparinise all the way through.
I don't like that they are making you decide. If they want you off it they need to be making the case for it. If they can't make the case I say keep taking it. Unless you want to stop some medications and are concerned about them, which is obviously completely up to you.

Thanks. I don’t know what I want. I have carried to term once as well so it’s only because of my most recent mmc. For now I’m focusing on getting past that time point and then will think about how I feel.

@miami my recent mmc was at 14 weeks, baby stopped developing around 8. The one prior to my son my 6 to 7 weeks. I feel like if we hear a heart beat Tues I'll feel more assured, but probably holding my breath the whole way through

@taylsn I get massive anxiety before scans. And having them weekly at the moment and despite lots of symptoms still feel anxious. Doesn’t help that with my last mmc I was still vomiting the whole time so I feel I can’t trust it.

Hello all, could I join?

I am going through a MMC at the moment. Was our first and hd scan at 12 weeks Thursday to be told baby stopped at around 6-8weeks. Not sure how I'm feeling at the moment but will get there.

How soon did people try again once the miscarriage has finished? Has anyone tried again before the first official period?
I was told by gp their are not rules but harder to date before first period after miscarriage.

Just looking for some guidance.

Funnybunnyfluff I’m so sorry you find yourself here.
Personally I waited until I had a negative pregnancy test (but that took almost 3 weeks for me as my baby was older so hcg would have been higher). I wanted to know that any pos test I got was genuine and not left over hormones. However, there’s no right and wrong here and what’s right for me won’t necessarily be the same for you. Be kind to yourself. It’s a crappy thing to have to go through xx

@beanhunter

Thank you that's interesting to know as you say to make sure your not still indicating pregnancy.

Hi all,

I'm new too can I join?

Funnybunnyfluff I miscarried in April (5weeks) then panicked when my period didn't come. I thought I was going to start going through perimenopause. But 5 days after my period was due I tested and got BFP. My GP was suspicious she thought it was leftover from previous MC but it was a new little bean.

Unfortunately after 3 healthy scans and HB seen, my scan at 11 weeks following a tiny bit of pink sporting showed no HB and growth stopped at 9+6 😥

My 3rd one now 1 @10wks 1@5wks 1@9+6wks

So yes you can Def conceive without having a period. But I think because mine was after a 5week chemical loss a the pregnancy hormones went away quickly. After a loss further along it may not be as easy but I'm sure it's happened x

@WishingonaStar77

Sorry to hear all that you have been through and I can only imagine the stress an heart ache you have been through. I hope everything works out for you xx

It's interesting to hear other experiences. I'm on day 4 of the MMC. Not to sure how long it's going to last I have read 2/3 weeks.

Is that normal?

@funnybunnyfluff thank you 😊

Unfortunately I think everyone is different in their experiences of MC.
For me with my 1st MC I'd been blood spotting for 4 days and had my scan on day 1 with HB then again on day 4 with no HB. When I got home that night I literally passed the pregnancy that night. Then bled and passed clots and tissue for the next 5 days. After that my period came just slightly later than normal (2 days late).

My 2nd was chemical at 5 weeks and I only bled for 6 days.

My 3rd was actually a D&C but I bled after for 2 weeks. Period came 1 week late that cycle.

Have you started bleeding heavily yet and cramping? Have you passed much yet?