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The Good, The Bad and The Yams!

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LookingAtTheStars89 · 31/05/2018 18:08

CALLING ALL YAMMER'S!

Yammer rules:

A safe place for those of you who have been trying to conceive for 6+ months and even yams aren’t helping. Come and have a good ol’ bitch and a moan without judgement. Please read the rules before posting!

The Yam Commandments are as follows;

  • Thou shalt not arrive one day and post BFP next day
  • Thou shalt not give advice to others when TTC for one month only
  • Thou shalt not participate in one-up-manship and realise TTC is shit for everyone in different ways
  • Thou shall allow posters to be fucked off with the world and everything in it at regular points in the month
  • Thou shalt not be offended by strong language
  • Thou shalt not tell everyone to eat yams
  • Thou shall accept being called a muppet for testing at 7dpo at 9pm at night

And most importantly...

  • Thou shalt not symptom spot during the two week wait and must be prepared for a telling off if you do so.

NEW RULE ALERT!

-Thou shalt not post pictures of positive pregnancy tests. We will be delighted to hear about it but no photos, please and thank you

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BGDino · 13/06/2018 15:44

So DH and I went to see the fertility specialist for the first time today. Basically he isn’t sure what’s going on based on my history and previous tests, it could be a PCOS problem, as I fulfil 2/3 criteria (too many follicles on ultrasound and no periods) but he said he’s not convinced as most women with PCOS have elevated levels of LH and mine is very very low. So both of us have to go away and do lots of blood tests and an SA for DH and depending on the results either he’ll start ovulation induction or he’ll have to investigate more. Funnily enough he is friends with the Ob/Gyn who referred me (that’s not surprising) but what is interesting is that both know DH’s mentor - fertility specialist worked with him when they were training, and the first Ob/Gyn operates on endometriosis with him. And if that wasn’t enough, DH co-authored some research with the first Ob/Gyn, and his mentor is married to my GP!!!

I’d been having some very light bleeding yesterday but tonight in the shower I had a 20 pence sized clot of old brown blood and what looked like tissue? with cramping before and after. DH got all excited suggesting that maybe I was having a period but somehow I doubt it. I think my body is trying to screw with my mind!

@Countrygirl94 we went to the GP in March this year after starting TTC in December last year, but l hadn’t had any periods since stopping the Pill in October so they got the ball rolling faster. Also I’m in Australia so playing by different rules!

Countrygirl94 · 13/06/2018 16:19

@OrcinusOrca I want a GP like yours. I don't even know my GP, I moved surgery just before getting married, fingers crossed they are as nice as yours.

@BGDino would have been awful if you'd had to wait a year with no periods. Hope all the tests come back quickly and it's an easy solution. Would it not be your body tricking you as you've seen a specialist now to give you a period. My body likes to do that but with sex, "oh you've just had amazing sex well bam here's your period to ruin your mood"

OrcinusOrca · 13/06/2018 19:44

Bit more spotting today but no way near last night's volume. Thought FP was showing up (only CD26 today) but currently nada. Few crampy sessions but nothing has materialised. Not sure whether to be annoyed at the spotting and hope FP holds off in that at least my LP isn't crazy short, or whether to want FP to just show itself so I can go onto the next cycle  only 8DPO. Stupid body!!

@Countrygirl94 we only moved here last July and this is a new GP, I do feel very lucky! Hopefully yours will be lovely too.

@BGDino I can't imagine how frustrating that must be, hope all of your tests go OK. It turns out to be a teeny tiny world sometimes with links like that doesn't it!

@Owlpatrol boooooo. Sounds like we are sat in the same camp right now ☹️

LexieJean · 13/06/2018 20:50

Hiya yammers! Sounds like a lot of frustrating possible FP symptoms, I hope it’s not for at least some of you!

I’m in full holiday mode- sticking two fingers up to TTC: coffee every day, plenty of drinking and sex when we bloody well feel like it!! Although I did pretend not to notice my OH wistfully watching a dad and his small children today. Stupid barren me.
@rubberduckies I think we’re in the same place, resigned to ivf being the only way forward.

nearlysummer2018 · 13/06/2018 21:33

Oh heck. When FP comes it comes crazy. I swear an actual part of me just dropped out my vaj 🤦🏼‍♀️ this is payback for me going two cycles with only a half day bleed inbetween!

nearlysummer2018 · 13/06/2018 22:50

Ladies. What's the bear app for monitoring fertility? I deleted all mine because I started to think they were jinxing me 🤦🏼‍♀️

Rubberduckies · 14/06/2018 06:36

@OrcinusOrca - I hear you with the age. Me and Dh are 26 and 27 and the GP told us not to worry for another 10 years.... I think the b6 can take a few months to have an effect, are you taking the complex too to keep you all balanced? I think that agnus castus (400mg) has helped me a bit with spotting after ov. Not stopped it completely but helped.

@bridget33 - my Dh has had 3 SAs which have all been different. All low, but some worse than others. Was it the same amount of time since you had sex? We found that the longer he abstained, the higher the count but lower the quality. The lab tech told him how the motility in particular is very sensitive and can vary the most - so if his diet or alcohol intake was worse, if they got very hot, if he was under the weather or if the sample wasn’t looked after before it was analysed would all affect motility and might both affect other stuff. He advised loose boxers and I did some research and got him taking high dose vit c, antioxidants, omega 3, coq10 as well as the fertility ones and that doubled his count and motile ones (morphology still shit though...)

@Countrygirl94 - I’ve been getting the odd well meaning “are you thinking of having children soon” and I’ve just been honest, saying that unfortunately it’s taking a while longer for us. I think the more people open up about infertility the better - rather than everyone bumbling along thinking it’s as easy to get pregnant as we were taught in school...I definitely had no idea it was so bloody difficult!! Re. Going to Dr we went after about 8months but said it had been a year, mostly for our own sanity. By the time we got initial tests done, and then repeated after 3 months for Dh it was over a year - we’re at 14 months now and still haven’t been seen by the fertility clinic so I don’t feel that bad for starting the process early.

FairyAnn - how frustrating! At least you have a date to work towards and you haven’t been lost in the system. It’s so unhelpful for it to drag on and on though. I phoned up our nhs clinic and they hadn’t actually had our referral from the Gp....from April....

@nearlysummer2018 - I use fertility friend. I actually paid for the subscription part of it for a year when it was half price at some point - I like all the numbers and graph and statistics lol!! Sorry about your Fp - that sucks!!

FairyAnn · 14/06/2018 06:43

Oh no @Rubberduckies, that's awful! Hope they got it sorted for you.

I tried to call the gyn department the other day just to get some info on what to expect at the referral. First time I was cut off, then no answer at all. It's so frustrating!

SparkwoodAnd21 · 14/06/2018 07:44

Which vitamins and supplements are you all taking? I’m taking a conception vitamin and EP (up till ovulation). I’m getting desperate now after 30+ cycles and turning 41 recently. My cycles are now pretty regularly 26 days, pretty light and last 4 dayor so with a bit of spotting for 2-3 days after that.

Rubberduckies · 14/06/2018 07:55

@SparkwoodAnd21 I can't remember if you/your partner have had any tests etc? I take a fertility supplement by viridian, ep until ovulation and cod liver oil. Then also b complex and agnus castus to keep my cycle nice and regular and extend my lp. Went through a stage of taking baby aspirin but it didn't make me pregnant and I just bruised more easily so I stopped!

SparkwoodAnd21 · 14/06/2018 08:17

We’ve had all the tests including HyCoSy and NHS have now given up on us, so I’m going to try what else I can.

SparkwoodAnd21 · 14/06/2018 08:17

I’ll maybe try AC and B complex too.

Countrygirl94 · 14/06/2018 08:31

@Rubberduckies you are right it would be easier to be more open about it. I am going to open up and tell my mum about having been trying for a while, luckily she hasn't been one of the ones asking.
I'm gonna make an appointment with gp.

That's so frustrating about your referral! I hope they've sorted out an appointment for you now.

LexieJean · 14/06/2018 10:14

@rubberduckies I’m all for being open about it but my OH isn’t. He says it’s a private thing between us. I put that down to the fact he doesn’t talk to anyone about it (which I don’t think is great) and a bit of male ego. Which is crazy because we’re in the ‘unexplained infertility ‘ camp so there’s technically nothing wrong with either of us!

@nearly that doesn’t sound great at all. @bubble had some insides drop outside too but I don’t know if she ever got it checked out? Perhaps it’s actually normal. Sounds gross but perhaps you could collect a sample if it happens again and ask GP/gynae?

Owlpatrol · 14/06/2018 13:00

Feeling a bit sad today ladies have been having cramps and one week prior to af all normal for me so I think I'm out. I was going to test tomorrow but not sure now. I just feel so sad I don't know how I can carry on with my job being so stressed and knowing it's not helping my ttc

LexieJean · 14/06/2018 16:00

Sending you a virtual hug @owl 💐 sad days are the worst

Pinkemi · 14/06/2018 16:17

So.. feeling a little narked off.. Just worked out that OH is away this weekend and its my fertile time. If we DTD tomorrow night and then on sunday when he is back.. we just "might" catch it.. although I'm not holding out much hope! Looks like this month is another write off.

Oh well.. I guess its plenty of time to focus on myself. (sigh)

Pinkemi · 14/06/2018 16:17

*Tonight, not tomorrow night. He's away tomorrow and Sat!

bama4 · 14/06/2018 18:11

Hi ladies , have been awol since 2 threads ago just trying to not think about this Ttc lark but have been checking in and just had to comment after seeing @Countrygirl94 a comment about how long till you go to the doctor. I have been ttc since April 2017, went to the doctor 2 months ago and he said guidelines for my area is 2 years and he couldn't help me. Was so frustrated but sort of got over it but now seeing so many of you seen so much sooner is making me question it again. Would anyone go back to the doctors in my position? Xx

FairyAnn · 14/06/2018 18:50

I think it depends on your age as well @bama4. We had been trying for 1 year when we went to the docs but as I'm 35, they started testing us.

Owlpatrol · 14/06/2018 20:35

@Pinkemi is your dp away with mine lol I'm all alone this weekend miserable and depressed lol pizza and wine will certainly help

SoozC · 14/06/2018 20:49

Hi Yammers, hope you don't mind me dropping in. Just want to let you know I had my 12-week scan today and all is fine. I have been very worried, especially as I was bleeding around weeks 6-7. But I have now reached that miracle deadline so feeling more positive about it.

Still following the thread as got my fingers crossed for some bfps. Wishing I could help you all out as I know how horrible long-term ttc can be. Big hugs!

HidCat · 14/06/2018 21:02

@SoozC that's great news - so happy for you!

SparkwoodAnd21 · 14/06/2018 21:02

@SoozC that’s wonderful news, I’m so happy for you.

Owl and Pink my DP is away too! He often is though so it’s nothing unusual.

OrcinusOrca · 14/06/2018 21:03

@Rubberduckies I didn't know that, I thought B6 got into and left your system right away? Not taking a complex, most threads I saw seemed to be people just taking B6. Are you taking a B complex, if so how much? I'm really torn on AC, can't find much positivity most reviews are for general imbalances not TTC and I'm worried it could make me worse...am soooo tempted to spend money on a year of FF hoping it tempts fate 

@SparkwoodAnd21 I'm on 100mg B6, folic acid and 2 x 1000iu vitd as I am not a sun fan and a blood test showed me to be low in it.

@Owlpatrol  sad days are SHIT

@Pinkemi DTD every other day is meant to be sufficient no? I flit between whether we should do daily or every other. One of those mysteries I would love to know the answer to!

@SoozC Congrats! Glad your scan went well. Has your bleeding completely subsided now? Empathy is always welcome on here Halo

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