When the going gets tough, the tough get Yams

[SoozC]

Thread five!

A safe place for those of you who have been trying to conceive for 6+ months and even yams aren’t helping. Come and have a good ol’ bitch and a moan without judgement.

The Yam Commandments are as follows;

• Thou shalt not arrive one day and post BFP next day

• Thou shalt not give advice to others when TTC for one month only

• Thou shalt not participate in one-up-manship and realise TTC is shit for everyone in different ways

• Thou shall allow posters to be fucked off with the world and everything in it at regular points in the month

• Thou shalt not be offended by strong language

• Thou shalt not tell everyone to eat yams

• Thou shall accept being called a muppet for testing at 7dpo at 9pm at night

And most importantly...

• Thou shalt not symptom spot during the two week wait and must be prepared for a telling off if you do so.

Yep! And I know it cones from a good place, they're not being mean or anything.

They think we're just putting it off til we get married. They don't know we've been trying for so long, so I feel I can't be angry at them for asking.

Thank you for your support, guys. I did manage to talk to her and she's having a girl (oh god) but I did feel better for talking to her and we're meeting for lunch on Sunday.

I hate it when people say stuff. We got our bfp 2 months after getting married and after the mc my mum said "at least it didn't take long" and I mumbled that we'd actually been trying for nearly two years. We didn't tell anyone we were trying except one friend each. Now, of course, lots of people know but if you have a mc it turns you kind of invisible; people don't talk about the mc, they don't ask you if there's any luck and they don't tell you to get a move on.

Both situations are shit: questions but no bfp, and no questions but a mc.

Sorry to hear you're so down, Wonky. It's horrible to get af. Is there any relief at finally starting a new cycle? x

I always like to go with a deadpan "gosh, you're so brave to ask questions like that. I'm always terrified that I'd put my foot in it with someone who'd been trying for ages or had been having issues. Could you imagine how awkward and heartbreaking that'd be for them?" Then follow it up with a dead eyed Paddington Bear stare.

Heh, Si1ver, I'm always too chicken to make any fuss. Like when you're on a bus or something and someone bashes you with their bag, I'd love to have to fits to shout "owww!" really loudly, but I usually end up apologising!!

*guts

Hey sooz - well done for making the effort with your friend, once you've started it's not so bad (I prefer that than ppl asking me cos I'm a terrible liar!)
It's here with a vengeance this morning, reminds me of how they used to be as a teenager. My acupuncture lady said I can do hot yoga in the first half of my cycle, so holding onto that as my bonus tbh. Symptom spotting was foolish but so so easy to do

Thanks, Wonky. I did get a tear in my eye but she knows I've had a mc so (thankfully) ignored it as we chatted. She also didn't show me the scan photos but I just know she knew I didn't need to at that point.

I haven't known her long but we have lots in common and as we've recently moved I really do want to make some friends, so I'm pleased I haven't managed to squash the life out of this tentative friendship yet!

I haven't heard of hot yoga! Going to look into it for when af arrives tomorrow. I need to drink more water and lose some weight too - that's my plan for the next two weeks!

Heh. I'm the person who shouts on the bus.

Proud of you Sooz for talking to your pregnant friend. It’s so hard isn’t it? I really suck at faking enthusiasm so I tend to hide if I can’t face talking to someone. Sometimes I feel ok to talk babies etc. With people but it just totally depends.

Thanks. I felt horrible ignoring her at first and could almost feel her confusion. So I'm proud of me too!

How are we all today? Another beautiful day here, a hint of spring in the air, I'm tempted to hang my washing on the line!

Well done sooz it’s never easy doing that.

Lol si1ver gonna try that next time 😂

It’s so effing cold here, I need it to be summer asap. Also does anyone else get an abundance of creamy white cm just before af? I’ve noticed it more the last few months. I’m a bit annoyed af is due tomorrow as I have plans plus it’s been two weeks since OH and I dtd. We can only fit it in at the weekends because he works nights and I work in the day and my curious 9 year old is with us in between. We couldn’t dtd the other weekend as I had my HyCoSy coming up then last weekend I was so knackered after being up for 24+ hours with my sister at the hospital I fell asleep both nights at 9. He’s gonna fume when I tell him af is here this weekend hahaha

@Bubblegum89 I get that too right before af - not sure if I always have as it's something I've only noticed the last few months

Well done Sooz you are a better woman than me. I have totally wrecked a close friendship with bitterness in the last year. I have 2 newly pregnant friends who will be attending my hen / wedding at a time when I thought I would be about 15 weeks so I will probably be sabotaging myself a bit more then too. Yay for the lovely fertiles. Gah.

I am so hoping this fucking m/c gets underway now. TMi but lots of brown gungy spotting, quite a lot of cramping, but nothing of any substance. I am walking round in a foul mood, a bit sore and terrified I am suddenly going to do gushing / contractions in a very inappropriate location. And (wailing a bit) I just want it DONE. I want to get tested, find out if there is anyway I can stop my body rejecting the bloody things and get on with getting married and ttc. This has been the longest and worst 2 weeks ever.

Oh and yes I do, Bubblegum, but (not helpful) loads more when I am pregnant.

@si1ver I’m defo trying that next time someone asks me!

@sooz well done, I’m really struggling with one friend who’s about to drop. I just can’t bare being anywhere near her and it’s such a happy time for them. Am mean.

@sooz well done on being a good friend. It’s bloody hard sometimes to put our own feelings aside.

@limp so sorry your still in limbo. You have every right to wail.

@bubble I always get quite a lot of creamy CM before af although the last couple of cycles this has been loads more than normal which got my hopes up! When pregnant with DD and with the mc I didn’t have any change in CM at all

I think it's understandable - we're all under stress.

I know done people use progesterone cream - I'm thinking of starting it this cycle. Would it help with pre-af spotting? Would oil do the same thing? Is there a very natural one I could use as I'm keen to avoid any unnecessary chemicals. x

I hate to do this Sooz but I was listening to a fertility podcast the other day & the woman they were interviewing was talking about wild yam creams to help boost progesterone! 🍠

I'd been finding it interesting until that point but then they lost me completely...

This is the podcast, btw. Anyone listened to it? There are quite a few episodes, some of them on quite specific conditions...

Gah it’s super annoying, I’ve noticed the increase in cm before af for the last 3-4 months and I’m always running to the toilet because there’s such a, ahem, gush that I feel like my af has started. At least I’m not the only one!

Ha! Tempting until I unearthed a couple of articles that say yams are not a source of natural progesterone. I might be better off with a natural progesterone cream! But I like the idea if yams being useful somehow!

I was convinced I had low progesterone, as I usually spot 3-4 days before af. I started on B6 after much googling and the spotting did decrease to just a day or two before. When they did my first bloods at 5+5 prog was at 47, and the midwife asked if I'd used cream. I mentioned the B6 and she said that helps loads too.

Do you think I should try cream, Limp? I only spot between 1-3 days before but I'm wondering if a progesterone deficiency is the cause.

Got baby bombed at lunch today!
At a friends with another friend too and they each have a boy under 2. One friend announced she’s having twins. She and her DH weren’t even living together when this happened as they were going through some relationship crap. I mean seriously how unfair is this!!
I was very good and asked her lots of questions and even managed a congratulations and hug. Now I’m home and feel crappy. Have an evening alone which I was really looking forward to (trashy box set and choccie) and now I feel miserable.

Sorry for the double bomb @LexieJean

@SoozC I've been considering Pro-Gest cream.

DH has surprised me by coming home from work 2hrs earlier than planned and announced we're having a takeaway. Really want some but reluctant to have any in the less than zero chance of a bfp tomorrow.