Thread 31, TTC1 | Jam and her dodgers still riding the bonking bus for that elusive BFP

[Jamon]

Calling all OPK-ers, Temp-ers, Clomid-ers, Femara-ers, IUI-ers, IVF-ers and anyone else on the TTC #1 Bus.

We've been going a while now so the novelty has well and truly worn off and we're slightly battle scarred and bruised in the cervix area. We don't get a lot of baby dust in these here parts, we just keep it legs spread and fingers crossed (LSFX). We love a baby bomb from a prior bus-mate but if we get told to 'just relax and enjoy it' ONE MORE TIME you will get a punch in the face!

Hop on board, post your stats and prepare to be dazzled by the wealth of TTC knowledge we long-timeys have to share...

Key:
HS - have/had sex
GOS - good old shag
ELH - enthusiastic lavatory happenings
LSFX - legs spread, fingers crossed

Pyjamas - it's not completely hopeless Pyjamas, that strong, little egg could be all you need. I know it's better to have more but you've got one and one is enough - I am furiously rooting for you. Wish I could give you a well deserved hug and share a glass of wine with you. You have been through a lot and at the moment it feels like you have nothing to show for it, but when you do it will be the best feeling in the world xx

Bath and massage sounds ideal. You're in the best possible place to welcome little emby back tomorrow. Everything crossed for you.

Appointment went fine thanks, female consultant for a change and she was nice. She went through it all so quickly and I thought more than once thank goodness I know so much about this already as there was so much to take in. She hardly drew breath!

The waiting continues now. When AF comes in October I call the nurses. Then on day 21 start down regging with oestrogen tablets, then onto stims / injections. Egg collection and transfer will be well into November.

It all takes such a long, long time

What flora says pyjamas - everything crossed for you, hope you're doing OK xx

babi hope the wait's not too long & you're feeing better about getting closer to some answers

Wow jam does sound like a lot for the consultant to just blitz through. Probably not helpful, but hopefully it won't feel as long as it sounds right now xx

Sorry I haven't commented earlier, having a mini meltdown that seems insignificant to all your other problems here. 😢

Pyjamas. It. Only. Takes. One. You only need a strong one, keep that positive mind clear of doubt. For an egg to be fertilised is a million to one so you're already winning, good luck for today. Sending good vibes. Xxx

Jam so glad your appointment went well and you have a target to aim for. November is not that far away, we are pretty much in September next week. Excited for you. Xxx

Thank fuck it's Friday. I'm thankful for my DH, he's been a trouper this week despite it all being for nothing, don't think I will ovulate, still haven't on CD17 and my AF is due in 9 days. Still no static smilie. Still feeling broken but there's nothing I can do about it, so my control is slipping and that's what's breaking me. The worse kind of thoughts are creeping in and it's hard to shake them. 😑

But, I'm thankful for long weekends. Sunday we're taking a last min road trip and seeing will smith in Blackpool. Random as shit!! 🙈

Have a good weekend everyone. X

Jam I didn't realise it was such a long process. Do you wait until October because that's when they can fit you in, or because of stuff you need to do before you can start?

Mouse sorry you're feeling down, hope the bank holiday weekend cheers you up (I love Will Smith, assuming we mean the same one!)

My Friday positives:

1. I haven't taken Agnus Castus this month and it's day 10 and I have just started getting fertile CM. HS Wednesday, will get on it for the next few days and hope for the best!
2. It's sunny, which makes things feel better.
3. Having spent the last few weeks convincing myself that I would need help conceiving/would never have a baby, today I suddenly realised how much I want this, and felt a lot more positive that it can still happen, naturally or otherwise.
4. DH said we can start looking at moving next year, baby or no baby. We want to move area and get a bigger house/bigger garden, so that's something to look forward to.
5. We're booking our holidays for October and March this weekend. I know I will be max 6-7 months pregnant by March next year so hopefully wouldn't need to cancel if I get lucky this cycle.

Just putting this here in case anyone at any point decides to try Agnus Castus. For me, it increased my LP, didn't actually decrease my spotting, still had it for a week or so, but had extra days of non-spotting before it. It made me O early, on CD 10 and it seemed to completely dry me up re fertile CM. I'm hoping that Oing later this cycle will mean a more mature egg, and more chance of a BFP.

Pyjamas sorry! I hope all goes well today. Thinking of you. Crossing everything.

Hello all, I haven't checked in in a while. Just wanted to say pyjamas sorry you're disappointed but as
others have said you only need one egg - most people only ovulate one at a time and this one has definitely fertilised so you're one step ahead! Will be thinking of you.

Glad you're feeling more positive flash and exciting about holidays! jam it's great you've had the initial appointment and time will fly by -
I'm sure once you get started in the process it will all feel quite fast

Sorry haven't fully caught up but hope everyone else is well and looking forward to the long weekend!

Thanks for all your well wishes - clearly worked, embryo survived the night and we now have one 'top grade' wee beastie on board! No signs of fragmentation and divided into 3 cells just before transfer! I can post a picture of the wee beastie unless anyone objects?

I would love to see it! Pyjamas that is such great news. I know it's early days, but taking it one day at a time, I'm so glad it's positive right now.

Well here is wee beastie! Third cell is hiding behind the other two. Get comfy and grow! Glad to see you're feeling brighter flash

Looks like you're on long protocol jam - hope time doesn't drag too much.

Wow that's amazing! The wonders of science!

Good luck wee beastie!

Wow that's so cool! Good luck little one!

Apologies for being AWOL - not sure where the time is going at the mo!!!

Great mantra jamon

chlo sorry about AF but sounds like your DH is lovely

Hopefully you can get some meds for the ovulation babi?

pijamas fcuk this is a flipping rollercoaster 🎢 you only need 1 embryo though
First IVF I did - and I got a BFP - only 1 egg (out of 2 collected) fertilised.

jamon so excited for you - you have a plan and that I believe is half the battle! October will be here before you know it!

mouse have you had ovulation problems in the past? I mean could it just be dodgy OPKs?

flash am loving the PMA!

So glad ET went well PJs!! Now you need to get plenty of blood to womble area so cayenne pepper please (eaten - DO NOT PUT on fanjo)
You are officially PUPO!

The good news my end that I just need to lose another 6 lbs approx to be at a 35 BMI - so have agreed (with myself) to start ball rolling with clinic on Tuesday if I have a good (3lbs approx) loss at SW on Monday.

Feel that it is the tight time to share my "patent pending" 2WW tips again

Voila!

Amazing pyjamas - dig in little beastie!

I have got myself into a bad habit of looking at pregnant people on Instagram all the time - so much that it now shows me quite a lot as it thinks I'm interested. Don't know why I do it to myself! Just wish it was me. I always get so fed up in the 2WW - I've read a couple of random articles about cycles this week and think a lot of people feel a lot more anxious/depressed in the second half of the cycle - whether they're trying or not.

Hope you've all got lovely weekends planned!

Wow thats amazing pjs. Go forth and divide further little one make yourself a comfy endometrial bed! Haha. I agree with kwick. PUPO! I have everything crossed for you.

Struggle Ive found myself in the depths of youtube watching infertility and ivf journey videos. I am no where near that yet but feel its helping me if it doesn't happen once i get the okay to try again.

mouse that must be heartbreaking, can you remind me if you've investigated using clomid or something else to help you ovulate?

Really lovely things you are looking forward to flash

Glad all going smoothly harriet

Fabulous work kwick 6lbs is SO doable

struggle I'm a different person in the TWW. The difference in my outlook is unbelievable. I find I google and obsess so much more in those two weeks. Being aware of this helps though - I know that I need to do more to protect my mental state.

Fabulous picture pyjamas, that really is incredible. Keeping everything tightly crossed for beastie.

The consultant did not mention long or short protocol and I have no idea what these even mean? She said they are going to have to keep a close eye on me as one of my ovaries is poly cystic (but I don't have PCOS) and I'm at risk of ovarian hyperstimulation. She had to tell us that ultimately OHSS can lead to death. DH looked a bit pale.

Thanks for the list kwick! I have cayenne pepper in the cupboard! How do you use it for TWW purposes? Good work on weight goals!

Yeah the OHSS chat can be scary jam. Long protocol includes down regging, short protocol goes straight to stims on CD2 with nothing before that. Think my low AMH had something to do with that decision.

Am obsessed with IVF videos struggle!

Feeling much better now the wee beastie is in as we literally got to transfer by the skin of our teeth - no more scans, blood tests etc! Just the grim progesterone pessaries and injections 🤢

Awwwwww the little egg is so cute!!!! I have a really good feeling for you pyjamas, sending more positive vibes. The fact you've made it this far is beyond a miracle, I hope you can think about that right now. X

Kwick since my temps have been dodgy at best in previous cycles and OPK never positive since mmc I really have no idea if I'm actually ovulating or not. I haven't had a rise this cycle and the past few days have been a bit erratic since I've been waking at different times.

Jam I think the next step is to speak with my GP and see if they will give me 21 day bloods, but the thing is, with my 25 day cycles it's pretty obvious what my problem is so I'd love to explore some more self-initiated ideas to lengthen my cycles. Unfortunately due to the thyroid issue it could just be blocking everything as I don't think I'm producing enough good hormones to do anything.

Honestly I don't know what my next step should be. I need to lose around 3.5 stones to get my BMI under 30 and right now I'm over 35 even though the doc told me my BMI was 33. I also have hit a major wall with losing any weight. I'm doing everything and nothing is shifting. Short of me fasting I am losing my mind. 😢

Oh mouse! I totally get the weight loss wall. Not that I am much over weight i could do with losing a stone - stone and a half to be ideal. According to my scales though Ive put on ten pounds (!!) since starting the thyroid meds! Not sure how. Im wondering hoping a lot of it is water weight from the beta blockers.

That conversation sounds scary jam but I guess they need to tell you everything that could happen.

Hi harriet 👋

Aw thanks mouse! I like the look of our little smudge as well ☺️ Sent a picture to my best friend of over 20 years and her response was "is that your nipple?" I give up 🤦🏻‍♀️

The weight loss wall is the worst - I know I've put on at least a stone through all of this! Maybe seeing a nutritionist who can help meal plan could help? It's tough, especially since ttc can feel like it's robbed us of anything enjoyable in our lives!

You say fasting mouse - what about the 5-2? I know some people who've had success with that.

I've totally dropped off the thread while on my holidays (definitely too much wine, cheese and pâté...) but had to hop on to say congrats to pyjamas and thank you for sharing the pic, keeping everything crossed for you over the next couple of weeks and hope you have a lovely relaxing weekend planned.

Hope everyone else is doing okay too