Thread 31, TTC1 | Jam and her dodgers still riding the bonking bus for that elusive BFP

[Jamon]

Calling all OPK-ers, Temp-ers, Clomid-ers, Femara-ers, IUI-ers, IVF-ers and anyone else on the TTC #1 Bus.

We've been going a while now so the novelty has well and truly worn off and we're slightly battle scarred and bruised in the cervix area. We don't get a lot of baby dust in these here parts, we just keep it legs spread and fingers crossed (LSFX). We love a baby bomb from a prior bus-mate but if we get told to 'just relax and enjoy it' ONE MORE TIME you will get a punch in the face!

Hop on board, post your stats and prepare to be dazzled by the wealth of TTC knowledge we long-timeys have to share...

Key:
HS - have/had sex
GOS - good old shag
ELH - enthusiastic lavatory happenings
LSFX - legs spread, fingers crossed

Thanks for the advice on Emma Cannon PJs - think I'm going to have a serious look at it in the next few weeks and see what I can incorporate in an easy way and then maybe look to incorporate more as the weeks go on.... can you get kefir in Tesco?!

Speaking of food, had an absolute disaster at lunch and managed to tip a whole cup of soup into my lap - then had half an hour until a meeting so had to just rinse it off my dress and then dry in the hand drier - so I stink of soup. FFS.

I know what you mean Chlo - it is not as simple as I've made it out to be but I try to bring myself to that thought process as the alternative is a lot more damaging.

I buy it from my local coop actually, couldn't believe they sold it in there, thought I'd be able to get it in Waitrose but they didn't have it. I actually really like the taste of it. Our nutritionist also recommended tai fun tofu a few times a week and I got the basil flavoured one which is actually really nice in a salad.

AF is here for me too 🙁 22day cycle ovulating at cd 10.
Drs appt after bank holiday for both me and DH so will be pushing for referral to fertility clinic.

Thinking I'll be testing out the finishing a bottle of wine technique this weekend...
one last cycle until 2yr mark...
sorry for everyone else on Af and to those feeling down, this process is tough

AF is here on CD25 :-( Have had spotting for a couple of days but as it usually starts spotting CD26 then AF on CD30/31 I don't know why it's so early. Just been to waitrose and bought a serious amount of food and wine, salami, pâté, buffalo mozzarella. I'm going to comfort eat tonight. DH has been so excited thinking the higher dose Clomid would be like a magic pill.

Damn caz and baguette, sorry take care

Thanks jam, and sorry you were feeling so low last night - how're you doing today? Hate to hear you're feeling alone, hug

skip - thanks for checking; nothing yet, but not due til Sat. Usual signs of hormone dip, so just waiting. Exciting about the post-AF spotting - so hope you've found something that works!

flash agree with the others, does sound like being fobbed off on AF-front - 11 days spotting/bleeding should at least be discussed properly with you

PJs hope you're doing OK with the bloating, good to hear you powering through :)

Argh flora nightmare - that's so typical!

Chlo don't blame you for feeling frustrated; interested to hear how the dietary changes go, though

Thanks girls I'm doing a bit better. DH is away, I haven't been sleeping properly and I'm coming towards the end of the cycle so all the hormones are there. I took your advice skipper and kept it healthy with salmon and avocado salad for lunch and Malaysian chicken and veg for dinner, plenty of water. I think that's helped. I also text my new neighbour and friend and we went for a coffee which turned into a beer in the pub. Ended up pouring my heart out to her. She's 36 and not sure she wants children. So blissfully removed from all this and a fresh perspective.

I also called a counsellor on my lunch break earlier - there is a 24 hour support on my health plan at work. I had such a lovely chat with a woman who seemed to know all about it. She ended up telling me her sister went through infertility and IVF. She must have supported her so closely. She was so so so so lovely and it was good to have a cry and get totally non judgmental support.

Flash thats such a rubbish response from those doctors. I think GPs just don't know enough at all about fertility. They should refer on to someone who does

Flora much of what you said made total sense to me. And my heart lifted being reminded that having IVF doesn't mean we won't conceive naturally in future. It's not like there's no going back. I get funny cramps and tummy twinges in the TWW too. I used to get excited but it must be having a thicker lining and then when it starts to break down maybe?

Chlo hope you've enjoyed your meal in London

Sorry caz xx
And baguette , bless your DH. Enjoy your feast and take care

Jam so glad you've had some support today, a good cry is definitely required sometimes.

Quiet 🤞For you hoping this is your month x

Mouse - wonderful to hear you're getting nearly positive opks and glad you're HS like a mad woman too.

Flash - I don't rate GPs, I've never met a decent one who tries their utmost to help you. I know their jobs are tough but there must be some who don't blow you off at the first opportunity.

Enjoy your lovely dinner Chlo!

Flora - oh no, I hate having accidents like that at work. Assume you're home now and changed out of those smelly, soupy clothes. 😂

Baguette and Caz - sorry AF made an appearance. Look after yourselves though Baguette your food loot sounds awesome!

Quiet - fx for you, any symptoms at all for us to analyse for you? I know exactly what you mean when you talk about a hormone dip, for me it's more like a car crash normally.

Jam - I think that was a very good idea, I'm glad you're getting some support but please keep looking after yourself. I know it seems so unfair sometimes but I'm not ready to give up, so you can't too. We'll get there. Let's not talk about how I've just gone out and bought doughnuts and chocolate though 🙈

If anyone want to try the caster oil and self fertility massage, let me know. I can do a little write up, I find it very therapeutic if nothing else.

flash very high praise indeed but wrongly placed - I am no eggxpert!!!
Actually wondering WTF happened to me this cycle as AF arrived yesterday - 6 days early!

pyjamas best of luck for your scan tomorrow.

chlo fish have been changing sex for years we put so much crap into the environment.

Welcome hol!!

Binky this is such a mind fcuk! Good that you are getting some counselling. I often cried over people at CRGH... not fun for them or me - I am not a pretty crier.

Babi + +

skipper why not come and do a yin class with me? I just did a Restorative class - we did about 5 poses in total - focus on calming nervous system.

jamoncita you can always call on me for a cry. It is just a complete wank stain.

That is crap flash have you considered having a private "MOT"?
I am not sure the soy thing is recommended - have you read "It starts with the egg"?

flora I make my own Kefir but Sainsbury's stocks it now as do many health food shops.

caz

jene

jamon so glad you got to talk to someone in RL

skipper please do castor oil write up - I really want to try. Saw some vids on You Tube but still a bit vague for me

I actually bought a doughnut maker right before I started SW - still in its box!!!

Am so so sad about attack on Barcelona- I used to live there, may well do my IVI treatment there...

Ah thanks guys, you're so great. Unfortunately they're not too promising skip - TMI, but low down AF style ache a couple of days ago, faint pink/brown when wipe, boobs pretty much back to normal, bloated as fuck, and pissed off. So...pretty much AF then

God kwick Barcelona attack is so terrible - but more awful if you have a connection, it's so sad

Where do you do this yoga Kwick? I will write up something tonight for you regarding the caster oil. Xx

Quiet - the problem is with TTC #1 you never know what symptoms to look out for. People say they mimic AF symptoms but it doesn't really help. Fx for you!

Love the PMA, skip but unfortunately think it's CD1 for me...

Skipper I'd love to know more about the castor oil technique please. Thanks for the hand hold by the way x

Thanks too kwickle 😙

I've reached the acceptance that 11-12-13 DPO for me are the Crying Fields. I just can't hold back the tears I'm like bloody Niagara Falls. Going to have to start wearing dark sunglasses on the tube like a knob.

Friday positive - digging deep for this one - is that I'm working at a festival this weekend with some of my team mates from editorial. I will be well distracted and have almost no time to myself. Might have to get in a couple of stealth cries but otherwise I'll have to have my biggest brave face on and SMILE

So went to scan and feel so low, down to 5 now and one is way ahead of the others and already mature. Am back in tomorrow for another scan and they're aiming to do collection on Tuesday. There's a real risk of losing the dominant one though and waiting for the others may mean it affects my lining. Feels like this increased dose has done more harm than good 😞

Sorry - totally self-involved post, just feel utterly shit. And I'm coming down with a cold to top it all off.

Oh pyjamas I'm sorry it's not the news you hoped for. Is there anything they can do? Collect the dominant one first so you don't lose it and see how it goes after that? (sorry my knowledge of IVF is pretty much zilch other than the basics) hugs

JeNe sorry about AF (your comfort eating sounds fantastic though!)

caz your cycle this month sounds exactly the same as mine. Do you know that you're definitely ovulating on CD10 rather than not ovulating at all (that's a concern of mine at the moment). Have you had any tests yet?

Sorry about the crying jam but at least you have something fun planned. When I wear big sunglasses, I pretend I'm Audry Hepburn. You could try that?

I haven't read it Kwick. I wrongly believed that at 27, with no health problems and a healthy lifestyle that conception and pregnancy would be a breeze. 18 months later I think my optimism might have been misplaced. Maybe it's time to start reading...

Re GPs and fertility I think a lot of them believe that women are hysterical about not getting pregnant (when you read some of the threads on here about people going to the GP after two months of not getting pregnant you can kind of understand this) but it means the majority of us, who go when we have a genuine problem, or have real concerns about the time/reason we aren't falling pregnant, we get lumped in the same category. It's a totally different attitude. My surgeon said 'If you want to get pregnant, keep trying because if you need IVF after this you should have it sooner rather than later'.

Sorry Quiet 🦑

Jam - I will write it all up this evening as I'm lying there doing it. So excited for you to try it xx

Pyjamas - sorry to hear than hon, I have limited knowledge also but can you get multiple opinions from doctors and specialists there about what they think you should do? I know how frustrating it be for you xx 🦑

Oh god. Please replace the 🦑 for ...

I'm joining the CD1 group today as well, just as I was starting to think this morning that AF was a couple of days late and maybe I should sneak off and buy a test. Oh well. Sorry to all my fellow AF-ers. Lots of and all round I think!

Sorry this cycle isn't going so well pyjamas, this whole thing must be heartbreaking at times

Jam, I'm exactly the same re crying. It's generally the first sign that AF is on its way as I suddenly start sobbing at every little thing.

Sorry to hear that pyjamas I'm keeping everything crossed for Tuesday for you. Hope you've got some nice things on this weekend to distract you.

Sorry AF got you kath, it hurts more when it's late

Ta skip me too

I can definitely try that flash

DH is out tonight, I've got a bottle of prosecco chilling in the fridge for after work, and I'm having steak salad for dinner. AF might be here, but by jove I'm going to enjoy my Friday!

Sorry you're in the AF club too Kathrino.

DH annoys me when I'm going to get AF. Everything he does irritates me. I don't normally feel that way about him (thank goodness) so that's how I know.

Oh no pyjamas sorry to hear this. Hopefully they will be able to do something. You only need one egg.

Sorry too to those with AF. flash and jam I'm exactly the same - my poor DH. I pick fights with him and then end up in floods of tears!

Hope everyone else is ok and finding some Friday positivity. I've just found out I don't have to work this weekend after all so I'm delighted about that!

Thanks for the support guys 💓 It's just a waiting game am afraid - they can't remove one and go back in, and the dr said all we can do is see how they do between today and tomorrow to make a decision. I was a bit of a mess at the clinic, but the doctor was lovely, I've decided to switch to her if this one doesn't work (more and more convinced it won't). I'm just so so tired - this cycle is nothing like the last one.

Sorry about AF kath 🙁

Sorry for AF Kath xx

I'm going out with DH for a meal tonight, probably Wagamamas because we miss Japan so much. Also because I'm 30 next Friday (but away in London). Everyone keeps saying "oh the dreaded 3-0" but I don't get the drama, Im okay with being 30 it still seems really young to me.

Sorry Kath & Quiet AF sucks!

Was up most of last night in pain. was reading up about af cramps as always thought it was mainly clots passing through the cervix but apparently it's a hormone causing contraction of smooth muscle uterus and bowel explains why I spend so much time on the loo on Cd1 &2 (sorry TMI)
Apparently best way to deal with it is to take ibuprofen 24hrs prior, I really should start taking as soon as af makes an appearance rather than 10hrs later when I'm in agony...
My DH bought me beer and chocolate so he gets brownie points!!
Had a little cry in the car today too, sunglasses required! 😎
Flash I started temping a few months back and if your chart is biphasic it confirms ovulation I've attached my one for my last cycle.
I've had 21day progesterone bloods and ultrasound so far. My gp was quite good, think she used to specialise in fertility thou.
Hoping she's still nice when I go back.
I thought the same thing up until a year of trying, figured it would just happen easily... since then I've been trying alsorts

Just got Emma Cannons book fertile.

Happy Friday x