TTC After MC 12: Hopeful Twats and Emotional Wrecks welcome!

[BertieBotts]

Come one, come all, new and old, no-one wants to be here, but at least we're glad we've got each other :)

Hope your stay here is short.

Now, some BFPs if you please and BFNs for those who are waiting for them too!

So sorry to hear the sad news today mulder and star shine .
Cheering all those in the fw.

Hand holding the ones in tww and for those with af. F'ing af.

I'm so, so sorry mulder and starshine.

grumpy it's hard to tell exactly but the middle one looks the darkest. I'd guess they show all the lh at its highest levels, above the dotted line in the graph below. So technically you'll ov just after it starts to come down. So now, tonight or tomorrow morning. Then egg around for 12 hours or possibly more, then add an extra day or two for 'good luck'. That's how I worked it out this time.

Thanks bertie and others I've had tests already and discovered I've got factor v Leiden which I've been injecting myself with which has been rather uncomfortable!
I'm with st Mary's in Paddington, they don't test for progesterone which im super sure is the issue so I might try and demand it next time round. Other than that no problems found.

So sorry Mulder and starshine

Also how the hell is it August... soon it will be 1 year since I started trying. That's pretty depressing. The same month my son turns 3. That age gap is getting bigger and bigger.

Jeeez! 1 year. I'm so pissed off at how long it's taking. I feel like the days drag. I actually want my af to come because then hopefully I'll actually ovulate and then stand a chance.

I think another cruel twist of miscarriage is, it gives you a tiny taste of pregnancy. The testing, the scans, telling people and seeing their happy faces, the exciting symptoms, I had even started to wear maternity clothes. It's all so fresh in my mind still and I long to feel it again. I want morning sickness and stretch marks and cravings.

Depressed tonight.

Lime that is very poignant and very true.

Ooh, congrats, Boat, that's great news! Told you we were on a roll. Love love love a BFP on this thread. Makes me so happy and hopeful.

SJ, if it's any help, I got flashing smiley faces for about 12 days in a row and then I gave up. I wanted to smash the stupid thing up! AF came early so could well be that I didn't ovulate - which is another delightful thing for me to obsess about now. Have spent the best part of the last few days googling 'short cycles and miscarriage' and have since progressed to 'short luteal phase and miscarriage'. Think I'm going to get on the Agnus Cactus. Which I have yet to Google...

Christ, lots happened while I was procrastinating writing that last post.

Mulder and Starshine, I'm so sorry to hear both of your news. Sending hugs and hand holds to you both.

I'm not sure if it helps any, Starshine, but a friend of mine had diminished ovarian reserve and still went on to have a baby. It's not a done deal. Go easy on yourself x

Wow a busy thread today. Starshine and Mulder I'm sorry to hear your news.

Where did you get tested starshine? DH and I had the couples' MOT at Create as I knew the RMC testing wouldn't cover AMH etc. I was never sure what the result meant though as they just said it was "good for my age" something like 6 out of 21 which didn't sound that great. If the result had been very low we were considering taking out a loan to pay for their low-dose IVF but as it wasn't that bad we decided to carry on with the RMC first. I know you must feel pretty despondent at the moment but have you considered that?

Mulder I am also with St Mary's. Who is your consultant? I think I may also have the welcome womb thing as I have had so many cps and early mc. I hope they will do the progesterone test. Let us know how you get on.

Thanks for the support ladies. Juniper I had it done through medichecks. It was 1.9, have since had my follicles checked with a scan and they're also low, which confirms the result. We are lucky to already have DS and I don't think I can cope with IVF not working and when to then stop. So really trying to appreciate what we have and we are very lucky to have DS- think this has been the problem for the last two years, I was only 34 then and no reason for low ovarian reserve so it feels hugely unfair, but I am thankful, we could have even struggled with DS!

Well, I'm 11DPO, CD 25 and started spotting this morning, been having cramps & back ache for 5 days too... Not really surprised, we didn't have sex much last month-just cd 8 and 14 (morning of-day I ovulated). Any ideas for taking the pressure off? I'm not sure what we can do to fix that-DH doesn't seem to fancy it much...Trying to be spontaneous but it's bloody difficult with my work hours, I'm exhausted when I get home, and he gets up at stupid o'clock before I can wake up and we have morning sex!

On the positive-spotting didn't start until 11dpo, where it has been 8-10 days in previous cycles...

Sorry to hear that cookie a baby making holiday / minibreak? Also not mentioning it when it's peak time.. I was worried I wasn't going to get any - ahem - delivery at all as I made the mistake of telling him it's ov time!
Managed successfully this morning - phew. OPK still had strong 2nd line (that's over 36 hours of surge now!). So I think ov must be imminent.

lime, I was thinking the same. I only got to 8 weeks but what was cruel is that I had to see the gp a few times and got my booking appt a bit early as they wanted to get me into the system asap (bad pregnancy last time plus hypothyroid and I bet they look at me and think 'ANXIOUS!' In neon flashing lights.) also - I felt so unwell. That's horribly cruel to go through it all and then loose the baby.

So, crazed conception google #143: 'is dark chocolate bad for conception' (as I am addicted to 70% choc - only a few squares a day but I neeeeeed it) and I got:

"Chocolate contains high levels of resveratrol which is very good for egg quality so a little chocolate daily is fine its best to stick with the dark chocolate because it contains more cocoa than other chocolates.

On to another ingredient in dark chocolate that may help you conceive: arginine. Arginine is a building block of nitric oxide, which increases blood flow to the uterus and ovaries."

(Only spoilt by going on to list Hershey's caffeine content list. Pah!)

We are going to the US in Thursday, extra bar of green and blacks going in...

I'm sorry cookie. I second a weekend mini break if you can. We went away last minute after my April mc with friends and I did me the absolute world of good.

Yeah, we have had a few lovely weekends away since the MC (and a proper holiday) but it always the "wrong" time (and twice have been ruined by period showing up 4-5 days early!)
We didn't have the most active sex life before TTC, and DH says he's too old to do it all the time (!), so we have been sticking to around fertile window time, but I never say "oh I think I'm ovulating" as that is way too much pressure-I'm never 100% sure anyway until my temps rise, although I do get EWCM my days vary a bit, as does ovulation...

Been away for a few days, and sorry to see some bad news on this thread - for sunshine, mulder and cookie. How are you feeling msjuniper and stuck? Have been thinking of you both.

Just got an appointment to go to the Coventry clinic for the NK cells testing on Monday. Has anybody else done that? A bit nervous because it's a uterine sample not a blood test, and I wonder if it hurts. I hate having smears, and having a coil fitted was the worst pain I've ever felt, so not a fan of fiddling about with my cervix! Glad to be getting the test, though - was worried that they wouldn't be able to fit me in this month, and it feels one step closer to being able to try again.

Starshine that is completely understandable. I think there can be a perception from outside that you can "just keep trying" but it's not that simple, there is so much emotional turmoil to deal with on top of everything else and you have to look after yourself and enjoy what you have. I'm sorry, it is so unfair that you have this low reserve at such a young age.

I used to go for the "don't mention the cycle" method but in recent times we've been more scientific joyless about it. DH takes some medication as he has occasional ED so it is easier if he knows exactly what is needed! Even so we had a few "incompletes" which were very stressful and I had a false early surge on CD13 which disappeared, my peak wasn't until CD25. Funnily enough I think the "successful occasion" must have been when we went away for a night and he didn't have his medication as he thought we were in a family room but DS had a little room of his own so we gave it a go anyway!

I feel a bit bad talking about DH as it is obviously something he finds upsetting but you are all so open and honest so if anyone else has the same issue you are not alone.

Great news about the dark choc by the way! 🍫

Oh my god I got a line on a frer!

Help me! Could it be old hormone from my twin pregnancy that ended in may? But I didn't ovulate this month...

Oh my god I'm freaking out. It's day 22 of my cycle, the line is stronger than my twin line that happened also on day 22

Look!

Ooh Lime! Sounds good! :) Is it possible you just missed ovulation? Or were pregnant last month and your last period wasn't a period hence no ovulation??

Ooh no it's too squinty to be last month (but I can see it!)

I don't think you'd still have hCG from May. Missed ovulation is my vote then

Shiiiit! If this is it I'm freaking out! All the nemories are flooding back. Trying not to be too hopeful. I know anything can happen.

I feel all funny now. nit how I expected. I'm extremely anxious

Tentative congrats, lime! Do you think you maybe ovulated early and that's why you missed it? It would also explain the early result!

Well the lady that did my scan said it looked like I had not ovulated. I guess they can tell.