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We're ovulating again, so let's jump our men. It's TTC after miscarriage thread 11

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Lime19 · 15/06/2017 08:46

Not sure if I should start new thread for this? Is there one open already?

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Springersprung · 03/07/2017 16:15

I'll join you in the AF dance for both me and Lime. Never thought I'd actually be longing for AF, but there you go!

PossibiliTea · 03/07/2017 16:42

I've been there and it's awful. Willing your body so hard to do something the complete opposite to what we originally wanted it to do.

AF dance all round. It involves a lot of squatting so I may shed those pounds I need to lose too haha!

MouseLove · 03/07/2017 18:08

Lisa I've just had a 4 month break waiting for the medical ok for my blood levels and thyroid to level out. I'm feeling it did me the world of good. I also had a break from MN in that time and found just focusing on me for a while really helped me to remember just how lucky I am. I think you might find the break gives your body time to recover and your mind to grow stronger. X

Spring I'm so sorry you're here and having suffered a MMC also I do sympathise. It's really heart wrenching that you had another 3 weeks to wait for it to happen naturally. The mental strain just makes me want to send you a massive hug and I only had a fraction to what you went through. Take this time to recover and look after yourself. My post MMC body is completely different to that before. I'm regular now where before I wasn't. I feel much more in control and I've learnt to trust myself more.

Good luck with both of your journeys.

So little update. It's CD14 today for me, think I might have dropped an egg today or yesterday which slightly annoys me as we couldn't find the time to DTD yesterday. So we only managed CD 6, 10,11,12 & maybe today if DH is up for it. Lol

hometownunicorn · 03/07/2017 19:57

Hi lisa and spring. Sorry for your losses.

anne I had the same question about CM and I'm sure I remember reading somewhere on another thread that "leftovers" from DTD would soak into a tissue when you wipe whereas CM won't. Not sure if it's true but does that help at all?

lime I hope af comes soon and things start to get back to normal.

mouse I think I'm about the same point in my cycle as you. We've been trying to DTD every two days but I'm thinking another go tonight won't do any harm...

I went for a run earlier after a couple of weeks off. It's a bit hot for it which definitely didn't help my pace but just going out for a run is good enough, right?

AnneLovesGilbert · 03/07/2017 20:08

Well done on your run unicorn! I had good intentions, I've been cooking and now hooked on Wimbledon... Blush

That makes sense and is helpful on cm, thank you.

Had another look through FF app as I'm new to it. It's not at all keen on the wild jaggedness of my temp chart. Bugger. I'll see where it's at tomorrow.

Really tired. Heading for a very early one and possibly a nap in front of the tennis. DH is chatting to the cat and doing excellent DIY stuff. Gotta love those gender stereotypes.

Smurf123 · 03/07/2017 20:40

While I did do couch to 5k before my wedding to lose some weight I have to say it is without a doubt not something I enjoyed.. I really honestly would love to like it.. Unfortunately I just feel like I'm dying from two minutes in... I am totally going to blame my asthma on that Halo but I do agree that it helps take mind of ttc when your busy.... I'm a teacher and I'll be honest this is the first year ever that I've been dreading the summer holidays... Purely because at least when I'm at school I'm only thinking of the kids i have there and then in front of me. Today was the first day of the holidays and I've kept busy doing some drawings. I love it and I haven't done it in a while because life has got in the way. I thought that I will do two paintings - one for each baby even though I never got to meet them.. I always planned to do the pictures anyway for their rooms but then the miscarriages happened I put that on hold thinking what was the point anymore. I've just finished the first sketch this one is off goofy Pluto Donald and daffy. I'm going with the Disney theme because whether they were a boy or a girl Disney appeals to everyone!!
Tomorrow is my wedding anniversary and all I can think of is how great it would be to get that posting test. But im only on Cd 19 so it is far too early to test...( I'm typing this rather than going to the shops to buy one just incase!) last cycle af arrived on day 21.. Really don't know whether to expect the same this time round or whether to expect that was just a one off and its not due for another week.

PossibiliTea · 03/07/2017 21:03

Smurf that's a really beautiful thing to do. Do you have anything nice planned for your anniversary?

Smurf123 · 03/07/2017 21:49

Possibili tea thanks, I've booked a cookery class for tomorrow evening for us both... We are trying to be more adventurous in food and try to do more new and exciting things together.. I've got dh a cotton apron saying happy anniversary just to give with the tickets to the class... Not sure what he will think of it but I think it will be an interesting night out and something differentSmile

hometownunicorn · 03/07/2017 22:01

That's a lovely thing to do smurf, a really nice way to remember them.

Happy anniversary for tomorrow too. The class sounds like a fun idea, hope you both enjoy it. What're you cooking?

Starshine1 · 03/07/2017 22:05

That's a lovely thing to do smurf and a good plan for keeping busy during the holidays.

I run too ladies! We sound like a very fit bunch - or aiming to get fit 😉. Really find it helps free my mind and gives me some time out.

Anne- I get a dip pre ovulation- never realised it before, but since you're post I have looked back at my charts (been temping on glow for almost a year now on and off (☹️) and I have just realised I have a dip for 2-3 days pre ovulation. I also agre that you should probably test at 4am before you get up as that's the longest period of time lying down.

Mouse sounds like you've given it a good good shot this month and you unicorn- fx for you both!

Lime and springer - hope af comes soon!

I am cycle day 8 here- have smiley faces and have a feeling I will ovulate around day 12.

Hello to all the new ladies- sorry that you find yourselves here, but fx for those BFPs soon

StepAwayFromGoogle · 03/07/2017 22:32

I'm very impressed with all this running! I've got as far as downloading Couch to 5k on my phone. Er, and not much further Blush. You ladies have inspired me though, I'm going to get my arse in gear.

Lisa, we're in an enforced 3 month break while we have all the tests at the RMC. I'm still waiting for the results of my second set of bloods and have a delightful internal scan on Thursday but it's actually been quite good for us. I'm 40 so didn't really feel that I had time to waste but I'm actually more relaxed than I was a few months ago. Hopefully you'll find the same.

On another note, has anyone heard of unfussy womb theory? Seems to suggest that some women get pregnant easily but miscarry easily too, because the womb is too ready to accept an embryo that perhaps wouldn't implant in someone else. Think it may apply to me. The 'fix seems to be to use opks and only dtd in the fertile window. Might be giving it a go.

PumbletonWakeshaft · 03/07/2017 22:38

Evening everyone, hope you're all healthy and feeling fertile! Think this is the longest week of my life waiting for my 2nd scan, I'm going a bit crazy. Such an emotional roller-coaster. I just want to move on but can't until this bloody scan. I don't think I'm going to mc naturally, I'm barely spotting now.

smurf I booked our anniversary treat to distract myself too. I booked us a secret escapes package for one night at a posh hotel nearly parents so they can have ds overnight and we can have a little much needed pamper. I'm really looking forward to it.

StillMissV · 04/07/2017 00:30

Hello everyone,

Sorry you've all had such a crappy time but I'm glad to have found this thread. I had my 12 week scan 10 days ago, showed baby had stopped growing at 9+5. So. We went off on holiday anyway (excellent distraction) and since nothing started naturally I had SMM this morning.

As yet I've had no pain and only light bleeding, is that normal?

We want to start TTC pretty much straight away. I conceived both times (we also have a 2 year old boy) in the first month, so I'm hoping we are lucky again but I'm wondering how people managed the anxiety in the first trimester if they were lucky enough to conceive after miscarriage?

So many questions, sorry - I can't sleep as my mind is just whirring...

Springersprung · 04/07/2017 06:35

Happy Anniversary Smurf. I hope you both enjoy the cookery class.

Still, I'm afraid I can't comment on SMM progress or indeed 1st trimester nerves, as I haven't experienced either. I have also been very keen to try again, and have found the length of the whole mc process and waiting for my cycle to get back on track really frustrating. I didn't actually wait for 1st AF before trying again, but haven't caught this month.

Tea, you must have super AF dance skills, because guess who showed up here this morning... hopefully a sign that things are getting back on track

rachelandthenoodle · 04/07/2017 07:46

Welcome @StillMissV
Sorry you're here, but hope the collective wisdom and just the knowledge that you're not going through it alone will help.
I had my SMM in the first week of April and we decided we wanted to start ttc straight away....we're still waiting to be able to start. 😖 the recovery and the re-starting of normal cycles has just been so so so much longer and more complicated than I ever imagined. I wish I'd felt warned that it could be that way; all everyone (esp the nurses and midwives) kept saying was that it might be a few weeks 'til I was back on track... I did not read 'a few' as being over twelve!

Anyway, I know there are other ladies here who have had better luck with speedier recoveries, so I don't want to depress you! Just basically trying to say: expect it could take a little while and just do what you can to keep positive and focused on other things whilst your body does what it does.

Hope you're feeling better today. Are you at work or staying home?

Blissfulignorance · 04/07/2017 08:51

Thanks for the kind words @MouseLove

Welcome and sorry @StillMissV I don't want to sound a wally but what does SMM stand for? I hope you have some support with you.

Happy anniversary @Smurf123 the cooking thing sounds like great fun!

@PumbletonWakeshaft I've been thinking about you. I know only too well how awful the waiting is! I do t have any advice on how to manage it any better but I can say on the other side of it now that having that time to come to terms with it before the scan confirmed it made it a little easier at the appointment to take in. I'm very jealous of your secret escapes break! Enjoy it!

@Springersprung Congrats on af, that dance talk made me giggle too @PossibiliTea

Sorry to those having a break from it, hopefully you'll get some answers from your tests.

I went back to work yesterday, unsurprisingly they'd all noticed that I've been away for a while. I just said I'd talk to them about it later but everyone was very supportive.

Had a few tears in the office with the manager but all in all a successful day back.

PossibiliTea · 04/07/2017 09:35

Springer that's a bit of good news!

Bliss, the worst part is over I absolutely dreaded going back into work. You did really well I was all over the place.

AnneLovesGilbert · 04/07/2017 10:53

Happy anniversary Smurf, I hope you have a peaceful day and a happy fun night, the cookery course sounds fab!

That's really helpful on temp/ov Starshine

Yep, it's an interesting one Step and after a few months trying last year, once I caught, I then did so again twice more, pretty much each time we tried, and all ended in MC. It's now been several cycles since that happened so I don't conceive every time, just had a run of luck!

There's quite a bit out there about it.

Glad being back at work wasn't too awful Bliss, I was mostly grateful for something to take my mind off it all, though I was faced with the memory of how happy and excited I'd been to leave early Friday afternoon two weeks earlier for my 12 week scan, with no idea what was about to happen to us. Having someone at work who understands will be good, see how it feels this week. I'm able to work from home so eased my way back to full time in the office over a couple of weeks. I was sooo tired.

So sorry for your loss Still, and god I admire you for going on holiday! I hope you're not feeling too bad. Don't worry about lack of bleeding or pain, it will mean they sucked everything out so there shouldn't be much left in there. Did you have a general? And do you know if they did a scan at the end to check everything was clear?

However you think you're feeling, take it easy. I really wish I hadn't bothered trying to brave it out. And I spent the 3rd day after the surgery in tears. I mean the whole day. I don't remember feeling sad, just a bit out of control.

Eat well, sleep as much as you can if you're tired, get a decent iron supplement if your levels might be low.

And if you're not bleeding and feel physically and emotionally ready then crack on. Most people wait till they've stopped bleeding, just to be safe.

I got af 28 days after my MVA. Didn't try again that cycle as I had to have the MMR jab so used condoms. There's no harm at all in trying though, if you want to. There's a big variety in when people get af and feel back on track. I've had 3 mcs and have been very lucky to go straight back to normal, wither with af or another bfp, but it's also normal for it to take much longer than that.

StillMissV · 04/07/2017 11:04

Thanks @AnneLovesGilbert that's helpful to hear. I'm off work today, but feel fine, more just frustrated we are not even at square one we are in minus figures as can't even start trying again for a few weeks. Back at work tomorrow which is probably best thing for me as it's mad busy in there, bit of distraction helps xx

TurquoiseDress · 04/07/2017 12:10

I've posted on here for (what feels like) a long while!

So many messages, not sure where everybody is at.

I've tried not to come onto the conception boards for a bit and just stick my head in the sand regarding TTC- as if maybe not actively thinking about it might make a difference to things!

Anne
I love tennis and was glued to the Wimbledon highlights last night!
Sad that I can't go there this year as we are so busy with work.

I caught my breath when I heard that Andy Murray and his wife are expecting baby no.2- their first one was born February last year so is barely 18 months old. They are so lucky.
Also, Djokovic's wife is expecting number 2.
Plus there was talk of Serena Williams still training despite being 7 months pregnant.
And another player who lost yesterday but is 4.5 months pregnant (obviously so!)

So even just enjoying the tennis, I cannot get away from pregnancy & bumps & baby talk!

The other day- 1st July- marked the 1 year anniversary since I got my BFN following medical management of the MMC and 3 weeks after bleeding started.

Thinking back to 1 year ago, I was actually so excited to get the BFN, my bleeding had just stopped (for the moment) and I was feeling so positive about TTC & hoping that we'd get another BFP very soon, at the latest by the end of 2016 (yeah right, very wishful thinking).

So today I am CD28 on cycle ?13 (have lost count) and now I'm wondering whether to buy a first response/early test...I know I should not do it to myself but all this baby talk has got me thinking about it all again. Which are the tests that others have used?
I only ever have used the cheap ones.

I need to calm down, oh dear.

Usually my cycles range from 27-30 days so I'm not even late.
If I get a BFN I will feel even worse about myself than I already do!
But something makes me want to test- I have no symptoms to report & feel completely the same as usual.

Hope everyone is doing ok & that there have been some magical BFPs recently- sorry not had a chance to read through & catch up on all the threads- that'll teach me to stay away!

StepAwayFromGoogle · 04/07/2017 14:10

Turquoise, I also caught my breath when I found out Andy Murray's wife was pregnant again. I wonder when it stops feeling like a kick to the stomach? Hopefully when we've got our babies in our arms...

AnneLovesGilbert · 04/07/2017 14:16

Hey Turquoise, glad you're okay, been thinking about you.

Yep, bumps and babies everywhere! I think if you feel you want to poas then do. And nice thing about FRER's is I've never had a squinter. It's either a depressing glowing white, or a definite line. Get them on amazon if you have prime, they're so much cheaper there than the shops. Boots had a bogoff on FRERs recently, not sure if it's still on. They're worth it but still very expensive for something you wee on! Otherwise I've had clear results with superdrug own tests.

Taking a break is good sometimes. I tried it for a while and realised my thoughts were still with me and I wasn't letting them out! So I'm here most of the time and it's nice to see people pop in and out. I wish you'd all naff off to the pregnancy boards but am enjoying your company while we're still in the same boat here.

Not sure who's playing tonight or tomorrow but can you poas and quickly have some tennis to watch or something else to occupy your mind if it's a bfn?

We haven't had a bfp for a while, it's got to be time soooooon!!!!!

I've taken up temping, it's doing my head in which is why I put it off so long. The FF app told me last night that as my numbers are so crazy I should try "taking my temperature vaginally" Shock Not much badder than poking my cervix or checking cm, but given all that and excessive DTD these days I'm trying to give the poor thing a little break from interference every now and then Grin

Let us know what happens.... x

Flashinthepan · 04/07/2017 15:11

Hello everyone. I went quiet for a while as I knew AF was going to arrive and it did, bang on time on Sunday. A 10 day LP for me, not sure if that's really long enough.

Anne the bonus is that the thermometer is so tiny, and you hardly have to poke it in at all so you won't really feel it. Although it is utterly bizarre waking up and immediately trying to stick a thermometer up your fanjo. Sometimes I laugh at the things I've resorted to to try and get a baby!

I've decided to start Agnus Castus this month, as someone on the infertility boards had the same luteal phase spotting as me for two years (!) and she said it helped. I thought a year was bad enough.

Turquoise I know what you mean about people getting pregnant just soooo easily it seems. Two friends of mine are thinking of trying for their second, if they have another before I get one I'm not sure how I'll cope. Still, only 4 cycles left before I can be referred to the fertility clinic, so roll on a bfp or roll on October!

AnneLovesGilbert · 04/07/2017 15:20

Do you find it more reliable flash, and yes, ahem, I know what you mean about where it sometimes feels that life has got to. WTF.

Agnus Castus sounds interesting, hope it works for you.

Flashinthepan · 04/07/2017 15:32

Well it's sort of just the next random thing I'm willing to try! Even if I can't get pregnant, I'd love to get rid of all the spotting as it's rather ruining my sex life post ovulation, which doesn't help take the pressure off fertile week, and no doctors seem particularly bothered by it!

Yes, I don't always do it, but I find it is more consistent, particularly in the very hot weather.

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