SQUARE ONE TO GRADUATES! Come on ladies we're huntin' BFPs!

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I get twitchy at the end lol! So next rollover thread. Roll call?

Did you get a peak opk Footy? Hope the egg came.
Never heard of B6 and progesterone, hope it helps you Kate.
I've just discovered that I currently weigh 1.5kg more than I did 3 months after giving birth to DS! I'm in shock! Always been on the slim side and took it for granted, but recently my jeans have been too tight. Have to go on a diet but hope it won't hinder ttc. I won't be drastic for that reason, plenty of fresh fruit and veg I guess. Slim fast shakes worked wonders for me after DS, but that's more of a crash method and probably not especially healthy. Having said that, I guess the shakes contain all the vits you need? Hmmm, what to do. Also going to make sure I exercise daily. Think it will help with generally feeling more up beat and energised.

Jam how many dpo now?

Good luck Kate hope you are getting back on the grads list asap

Tee I've read losing weight can help with fertility so fx it gives you a boost.

I am Day 16 and haven't ovulated yet. My period came in the evening so maybe I should be counting today as day 15. Egg is due on day 16 either way - and OPKs are currently still negative. We have DTD days 9, 11, 15 and will again today. DH goes away tonight until Thursday so I really need to ovulate soon. I've got ovulation pain on the left hand side so hopefully it's coming.

Hope you ovulate soon jem before Dh goes away.

I still haven't ovulated. Will check cervix again in a bit. Had a bad reaction to the Easter eggs yesterday - felt sick all day! Sugar at metformin do not work!! Think I'm going to have to eat it one piece a day or give it to the kids! Sob sob

Hope everyone is having a nice Easter. Tee diet is a good thing for ttc, as long as you are not starving yourself. The shakes are ok short term (quick fix) but as long as u have a balanced healthy evening meal.
Best diet that I use to recommend for my clients was low sugar low gi foods. Every meal has to have a higher portion of protein than of carbs. Plenty of regular exercise mixed in with at least 1litre of water a day (more if u can). No caffeine at all or diet fizzy drinks. Green tea good (yuk) but is good.

Oh foot hope you ov soon.

Hope you've caught dh in time too jam!

I feel the same pms symptoms of negativity and darkness creeping in. Feeling hormonal and depressed. 7 dpo. Not hopeful at all. Had bbt dip to coverline this morning...

Kate Was you temping the cycle u got your bfp? Did u see any dip then?

No ovulation.. Still waiting... this is just pants. Another good cycle of dtd and nothing happening. Going to have to start the af pills soon I guess. Hoping that will lick the cycle into shape. Doctor appointment later about bad back so I might mention it also.

I did. Both cycles with chemicals I've had really sore boobs by now, and they aren't sore... so really not holding my breath. I'm trying to not let disappointment ruin my life which it has been doing. I guess a projected 39 day cycle has at least given me a bit of space.

Oh foot, I'm so sorry for your frustrations too...

I am trying to get up the energy/ motivation to get a diet and exercise regime in place but every tww I give up as they 'say' not to change your diet or routine too much. My clothes are too tight too tee. Has anyone tried weight watchers? Any opinions? I am not willing to stop ttc for this at this point but I have gained at least half a stone in the last year... and really I could have used losing a stone when we started ttc.

Sorry that u don't feel hopeful Kate. Totally understand that it's effecting your life. It's same for me. Just can't stop calculating things and programming myself around the calendar. I'd be devastated if I can't conceive again and that fear has started to creep in this week, especially that I haven't ovulated again. I don't qualify now for any further help.

Went to docs today about my back and mentioned about not ovulating. She's not overly concerned unless I hit 6 months without af! Hard to be satisfied with what I already have but I am grateful and know I'm very lucky. Need to just pray I guess and hope I'll be blessed!

Oh and weight watchers are a good plan to follow as they are balanced meals. Avoid their snacks though as full of fake sugars which are not good for you. Try to make the recipes rather than buy them. Fresh always better.

How you getting on tee?
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Jam* have u ovulated?

Hi Mimi, how are u?

Kate I've got high hopes for you, the CP was awful but I've seen this happen lots over the 18 months I've been on MN and I'm hoping for you it's not long until you're back to BFP. I totally get the programming your life around it - my life has become TTC it's all I think about all I do!

Footy I really feel for you if my egg is even late I go mental. Can you exaggerate how long this has been happening to a GP? Can you pay for any tests?

Tee I hope you are doing well lovely

I'm pretty sure I ovulated yesterday. I've attached my OPKs and the dark one was Sunday. We DTD days 9, 11, 15, 16, 17 so well covered. I don't doubt really that AF will come but I'm resigned to that now. We have our follow up at the fertility hospital tomorrow and get referred for IVF, so I'm very much just continuing to try whilst we wait out the waiting list.

OPKs !!

Definite positive in there...

Thanks for the vote of confidence jam! I just think the next will be a cp too... I think I'm not meant to stay pregnant at this point, whether it be my thyroid or progesterone or something else that is just causing enough of a problem to stop the delicate process from happening...

And obviously I'm still having a pity party! Feeling better for starting weight watchers with a goal of losing a stone and a half...

Love to you all. Honestly, you've all kept me sane (if we can call it that!)

Likewise kate I don't know what I would do with MN! be sectioned probably!

Jam yes looks like u have a positive opk in there! Good luck.
I do feel like I'm going mad with all this! Even my Dh is getting impatient when I told him I haven't ovulated. He's stressing that he can't keep the dtd up! We haven't dtd now for 4 days as I haven't got any twinges or anything still.. thought I had something last week but turned out to be trapped wind I think

Kate glad u have weight watchers to focus on. I too am cutting back on naughty food. She says.. tucking into olive bread with butter on.. I believe it will happen for u too. Your body knows what to do it's just about timing. Eating well in 2ww is very important so I think maybe go for it in the first part of cycle and then just be sensible in the 2nd part.

Going to wait another week and then will do a test just to be sure and take the pills to bring it on.

Temp today was low at 36.13 so def not ovulated. I really hope it's just not ovulating is my problem as have conceived before. When I look back at my charts I have calculated out of 12 months I have only ovulated 6!! A couple of those cycles I didn't cover ovulation with dtd as I had no idea when it was happening. So really feel I haven't had many opportunities and one of those cycles was a cp.
Really wish I could ovulate on the same day each month.

Running out of positive vibes for myself.

Foot - have they given you a reason why you aren't ov'ing? Is there 'diagnosis' of sorts?? It is frustrating that you're having such a hard tie with it being consistent...

9 dpo serious backache. The cycle after my last cp I had the same symptoms as I did when I was pregnant. My main symptom last cycle was backache, so I think it's like a 'sympathetic' pms symptom or something. Arg.

Footy I was about to say the same as Kate re. a diagnosis, must be so tough for you going through cycles without ovulating! I'm pretty clockwork and I find that hard enough, so God knows how you cope!! I recall you do have x2 DS's so perhaps when that egg is released you'll be super fertile and your timings have just been off so far. Let's hope you catch one soon!
FX for this cycle Kate! I feel very much the same as you re. holding onto a pregnancy after my x2 mc's. I just feel something is going wrong in the processes after conception. Just wish I knew what, it could be so simple to fix! 3rd time lucky I'm hoping.
Jam looked like a peak opk Sunday, so what do you reckon, OD Monday/Tuesday? Mine are still faint, expecting OD Sunday; we are away for a 2 night break from Friday, perfect timing! DH has been very lethargic this week so not much DTD so far!

Well my fertility bloods were all in the normal range, just my day21 progesterone was slightly on the lower side but think it was around 20-30 between two tests. The months that I had the tests I did ovulate! FSH was normal too (which is the one if you have run out of eggs it would be sky high like in the 50-100 range. Mine was 8/9 so def have eggs there. My LH was a bit high which means the opks will all be dark for me but this is common for irregular cycles.
I personally think my ovaries have been buried in the depths of the earth and need a good waking up!! I blame the contraceptive pill.

Gp suggested I take the norethisterone every cycle for a few cycles so body will remember that every 28 days I will bleed. Hopefully it will do it by itself after. I went through lots of stress years ago and my periods went crazy then. Instead of not ovulating and bleeding I was bleeding every 2 weeks. Had loads of tests and they put it down to stress. They put me on the norethisterone then too to regulate the bleeds. After 4/5 cycles they became regular again. Few months after I started the pill (stupid woman)!

It's been a total waste of clomid tbh! So I'm just going to quit it. I have two cycles left so will wait until I regularly ovulate, in the meantime I'll just carry on ttc as normal.. u never know.. ? They told me can only do 6 cycles of clomid in one hit without a break. So if I take a break, there's no reason why I can't self prescribe online at a later date of another couple of cycles. That's my plan so far...

Btw.. I just checked my cervix and was mega high and very soft that I couldn't really tell it was there. So fingers crossed in the next few days it happens. Had S terrible headache today so just maybe (hopefully) hormones are shifting.

Kate really hope you'll get your bfp this cycle. Backache sounds promising! Xx

Tee weekend away sounds nice. Plenty of time together! Maybe you should get smashed together and be reckless.. it worked for me (first time round)!

I'm on a course on Saturday. Something to look forward to. No children or Dh to look after

I didn't know that about FSH, think I'll go and check my reading now as I keep having thoughts creeping in that eggs are running out and I'm heading into early menopause!
What course are you on? Fitness related? x

No it's not fitness related this time tee. I help (volunteer) at my church as a counsellor/ leader two mornings a week so it's a course to help people (mainly mums) who may be going through depression, addictions, self harm, broken relationships and abuse. After my injuries I can't do much personal training so felt I need to do something else. Who knows where it will lead?

Tee the FSH test had to be done on day 3 -5 of cycle. So if u only had day 21 results ignore the figure it may say. Don't want to freak u out! As the FSH will increase throughout cycle! But on day 3-5 it should be lower than 15 (lower the better).

Thanks Footy!! I had both the 21 day check and the one early in the cycle; just checked and my FSH was 6.7 and LH 4.1. So this is OK?? I have plenty of eggs?! Hate the feeling of time slipping away on this! x

Good for you re. your church work. How lovely to do something that will help others. I know it seems weird for me to comment (having never actually met you in person!) but from the months we have been talking, it's obvious you have some lovely mentor qualities.
Agree it's also nice to take time out from family life and focus on something else x

Tee how lovely for you to say that. Thanks x
When I started personal training i felt like I would naturally counsel clients. They use to tell me so much personal stuff and all their problems so I felt that's my calling..
Forget the money and career, I've found happiness is where you are naturally gifted .
Your FSH /LH are perfect! Normal range. So you can relax where those are concerned
As you get older this number will increase. Mine would be higher than yours because I'm a bit older. To qualify for ivf I think it has to be under 15 from what I remember the consultant said last year.

Shame I can't counsel myself through the woes of ttc!

Cervix hard again!? It appears to be playing games. Checked it after a short jog though, so not sure if it moves around throughout the day.
I don't feel like I'm near ovulation at all. Grrr

Anyway..

Kate how's it going? Any symptoms- you are so close. Are u going to test?

Jam when is your appointment at clinic? And have u had any bloods done? I can't remember.