SQUARE ONE TO GRADUATES! Come on ladies we're huntin' BFPs!

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I get twitchy at the end lol! So next rollover thread. Roll call?

I did ask about trying clomid but he said no point because sperm was our problem

Good luck with fw !

Footy it sounds like a total minefield. Try and keep to GP advice if you can I think.

Sure hope everything will be fine durez

Kate nim mimi hope you're all doing well 💐

It's great that you will be tee'd up to start at the end of the year. 2 years ttc is long enough! We started trying at roughly the same time I think (Dec 2015 for us), and I have in mind to pay for private IVF if still no joy by the end of the year. I'm not sure how much of a solution it will be for us though. DH's SA was fine, and technically we have conceived twice in the 16 months, so whilst I know the x2 mc's could have been pure bad luck, I can't help but feel there's something in me rejecting potential pregnancies. The embryo still has to implant during ivf, and I'm starting to feel sceptical about my body's ability to do that. I guess the supplementary drugs are what support this process and give the embryo the best possible chance. In my head I see IVF as a great solution for where the man is the problem.
I think I just need a consultation with a specialist to go through it all. If GP won't refer me next week, I'll pay for private.
Picked up 1000mg epo today. OPK very faint so OD will be later than last cycle. Gives me a few dosages of the epo which is good! CD10 today, OD Monday or Tuesday I reckon x

Any more spotting @DuRezidal?

Nothing at the moment, but waiting until Wednesday is hard work!

Tee I've heard good things about a book called It Starts With The Egg. It's got a lot of advice about improving egg quality if you are concerned about that

Thanks for the tip Jam, have just ordered it on Amazon, will be good reading for the 2ww! I also bought 3 months supply of epo, decided I need to assume AF will arrive each month, rather than keep thinking 'I'll buy that next month IF I don't get a bfp'.

Tee my EPO is 1000mg.
Feel very fed up waiting... something is definitely going on as had cramps on and off today. So now in limbo again waiting. Grrr.
Typically had lots of dtd and no egg! That book is good jam I've got it on my kindle.
Blood sugar is referred to quite a lot in everything I've ever read so hoping following a low sugar diet will help.
Hope the spotting has stopped Durez. How are you Mimi?

Kate, hope you are ok. Thinking of you x

Just occurred to me that this Sunday going to be particularly hard for you all.. all that have lost or are without. Replace those sad thoughts with some hope that it will happen. Sending you lots of hugs and next year we will all be new mums by Mother's Day.

Jam any 2wwsymptoms?

I can imagine you are beyond fed up Footy! Have you done any opks?

Yes they are positive but I do also get positives before AF. Looking like I'm just going to have to wait a couple of days. My temp this morning was quite low- so hoping it will spike tomorrow.

Hi all, today I got my first bfn, and found out my sister is pregnant, I am so happy for her, she has been trying for ages and had two miscarriages but I think her edd will be very similar to mine was and I couldn't help feeling so sad we wouldn't be pregnant together.

Oh nim that must be so tough on you. Lovely that she's pregnant but I totally understand how u must feel. Hopefully u won't be too far behind her, and at least you'll get some of her maternity clothes and babywear - save some pennies
Is it her first?
At least u can now concentrate on a new cycle. Xx 😘 hugs xxx

I've had quite a tummy ache tonight and my boobs are not my boobs. Very sensitive and uncomfortable. So what is it going to be? Af or ov???? Place your bets now..
All will be revealed in the morning hopefully.

Great that you finally got a bfn Nim (feels weird to say that). Totally get how you must be feeling about your sister. On the plus side, it's reassuring that a sibling has fallen again with a sticky bean (assume she is second trimester) after x2 mc's.... it's happened for her and will happen for you!
I was desperate to share pregnancy with my twin but that ship has long sailed! Baby arrived in January, but she has pledged me all of her maternity wear, and baby clothes, so I guess that is a bonus! Our babies will be at least 11 months apart at this rate, so less comparison which can always be tricky and awkward.
Footy fingers crossed it's the egg! TTC is hard enough, I really feel for you not being able to rely on the timing of ovulation! No temp spike this morning I assume then?

Hi all,

I'm not in a great headspace. I'm finding it difficult to come to terms with having to put up with this shit another year before they will help us. I'm also bitter and jealous of people in the same boat who get loads of help! I heard of one woman getting an NHS lap and dye before ttc as a fertility MOT!! They'd rather give me anti-depressants than a fucking blood test to see if low progesterone after ov is an issue. That's messed up.

I've even lost sight of the end goal and am questioning if I can't deal with ttc, how will that possibly make me a good mum? Dark, I know. Don't even get me started on tomorrow (and American Mother's Day in May!!!).

I'm also mad at DH for not letting us ttc until last April - even though we could well have started a year before!! Nothing I can do about that one. Sorry. Rant over.

I so hope it's the egg foot!!!

Nim that is so hard! I am having a really hard time with SIL's pregnancy (unplanned) because my first cp would have been due around the same time... I do hope you can spend time with her and enjoy planning for a new niece or nephew!

Fx for your egg footy

Nim that must be really hard. I hope you are not far behind her. What's your plan for the next egg, are you doing anything differently?

Big hug from me Kate I'm not surprised you're feeling low. When you put it like that with the NHS it really doesn't make sense. I'm sure you will conceive again before you need their help. I can sympathise with getting started earlier - I could have happily started when we got married but DH wanted to wait a year and still only then started because I insisted!! He also made me wait 8 years before proposing so there has been a lot of waiting here!

Long term TTC is SUCH a tough thing to go through. I've come to a place where I think I have to focus and value what else I have in my life, so I don't constantly feel sad and bitter. Hard at times though!

I hope you all enjoy some sunshine today. I so hope it's not much longer for us all xx

I think AF has arrived so hopefully all is ready to restart this cycle. Just the ubiquinol different but I am going to use the mooncup this cycle as well.

I couldn't have waited on DH asking me to marry me, I asked him! I was also very upfront about ttc too, I thought it might take a while so as soon as it was reasonable from a work perspective, we went for it, and I fell the first month! I was 29.

I need to put DH back on the vitamin C and zinc. I'm taking a proper cocktail, Ive managed to find some high dose folic acid so Im taking that now (5mg)

Hi all,

Not quite sure if I did ovulate yet. My temp went from 36.27 to 36.45 so quite a significant rise. No cramps today so it is possible? Will check temp next few days..

If I'm honest.. I too feel a bit annoyed with Dh as we too had discussed ttc couple of years back but nothing really came of it. Only wish I came off pill sooner. Just really hoping I haven't left it too late.

Seems as though we all need to focus on new pills this new cycle! We can do this... chin up my dear friends xx

So Cd 10 now (can't believe it already). Might start opks Wednesday or so. Normally ov cd 18-20, but not sure if anything will be a bit different at all. Have not dtd since it all happened. Feeling very apprehensive and have mixed emotions about what to do. Will be gutted if I waste this cycle... ARG!

We need some good news. Harumph.

Foot? Jam? Nim? Tee? Mimi? Anyone???? Good news!?

I'm drawing a line under this on Tuesday and will start to be positive. Being negative is hard work.

Kate your healing process will very day to day, so don't beat yourself up on it. It's totally acceptable to feel like this. Agree though positive thoughts will be healthier for you and u will start to regain happiness & confidence to ttc again.
So much of our enjoyment of our lives depend on how we feel. Good to draw a line and say to yourself that is now in the past and start afresh with hope for the future.
Hope you have had support. Xx 🌺

Nothing much here.. temp dipped even lower than the other day. So those pills are coming out.. grrr.

*vary!

Temp even lower! So definitely haven't ovulated.
So annoyed! As we had almost nailed it every 2-3 days so such a wasted effort. Now got a busy month ahead so won't be as relaxed.

Happy Monday peeps!

Sorry you are feeling so down @physicskate , but you have every reason to and you need to give yourself the time to feel sad.

How's everyone doing?

Argh Footy how frustrating for you! Did you say you were on the new drugs this month or starting next month?
Kate hope you are ready for your fresh positive start tomorrow! You were right to let your emotions take control for a while, it was horrible to go through that again and you can't bottle that shit up... but onwards and upwards now. I'm hoping for third time lucky, and hope it will be for you too.
Nim good luck this cycle! Tell me about the ubiquinol, where did you get it, how many mg? I started on my book last night as recommended by Jam, there was a chapter on this, so I think I will add to my cocktail too! It also said about higher mg of folic acid for those who have suffered multiple mc. I'm only on the seven seas multi vitamin which contains 0.4mg (400mcg) folic acid, whist that's 200%rda, it's quite a bit less than what you've found!

Think I'm in the fertile zone now. I read lots of 'it starts with the egg' last night. Interesting read. There was loads about the negative effects of BPA (which is found in plastic containers etc) on our eggs. Whilst I'm desperate to conceive, that's not something I'm massively keen on tackling. It did put things into perspective for me; Lots about how many 'bad eggs' we have, so basically you can time DTD with ovulation all you want, but if you pop out a bad egg, it won't happen. In a way it was a good thing for me to digest. Other than doing our best to eat well, supplement properly, and make a reasonable effort in FW, it's kinda up to fate whether it happens each month, so it's quite nice to take the pressure off in that sense.

Kate hope you're doing okay. Don't put too much pressure on yourself this cycle. Really hope you conceive again quickly whether it's this or the next one or two.

Tee that is reassuring re the book. I keep recommending it to other people and should really read it myself!

Sorry no ovulation yet footy I hope it's not much longer. You win the most DTD award I think

I'm 9 DPO today and feeling all the TWW hormones. This is the worst bit of the cycle for me. We get the keys for our first ever home we own on Friday so I might take a test to make sure I can lift heavy boxes for the move. Expecting another BFN / AF.

I need some advice please!!!

We dtd every day from day 10-16. Got EWCM on day 16, 18, 19 and 20. Usually have 28/29 cycle and don't usually get ewcm so many times.

Have I ovulated late and missed it?
Is it pregnancy sign?
Dp not home till tomorrow to dtd

Today is day 20